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December 19, 2015

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Romantic love is a systemic lie designed to manipulate women into lifelong emotional labour

Why does feminism sound like a nutty conspiracy theory? I suppose that 'systemic lie' explains all the centuries of men financially and emotionally supporting women then? :-)

David

Imagine the “emotional labour” required to endure a lifetime with Laurie Penny.

Crazed Weevil

I thought Love was an invention by Bank Managers to make us all over-drawn.

And no I'm not going to imagine the "emotional labour" required to endure a lifetime of Laurie Penny. I'm already Crazed as it is. I don't want to be Insane as well.

David

You have to marvel at the insistence that one of the most basic and universal of human feelings is merely an elaborate ruse “designed” by some unspecified patriarchal cabal. And you have to wonder how this “systemic lie” would explain the romantic feelings of gay couples.

rjmadden

Romantic love is a systemic lie designed to manipulate women into lifelong emotional labour

If my wife and children discover this I'm in serious trouble.

Tim Newman

I wonder what caused the butterflies? Watching a hooded thug kick a pensioner half to death in the name of social justice? Or a hefty tax rise?

Sam Duncan

That woman is a walking retirement plan for psychiatrists.

I'm sorry, I know it's lazy to doubt your political opponents' mental health, but come on... “WTFMag” is spot on there.

“You have to marvel at the insistence that one of the most basic and universal of human feelings is merely an elaborate ruse “designed” by some unspecified patriarchal cabal.”

But that's where Leftism leads you. It's societal creationism. Leftists can't seem to conceive of spontaneous order or emergent behaviour in human society.

Which is really odd when you think about it, because that's where these phenomena were observed first, centuries before Darwin.

jabrwok

all the centuries of men financially and emotionally supporting women

My understanding was that all that support was for the purpose of producing and raising the mens children. "Romantic love" as a justification for pair-bonding was a 17th Century innovation. Prior to that, again AIUI, love was seen as orthogonal to the pair-bond, and generally expected to grow *from*, rather than lead *to*, said bond.

I haven't investigated the matter deeply though, so if historical citations to the contrary are available, they'd be a welcome addition to the conversation.

WTP

That woman is a walking retirement plan for psychiatrists.

Oh, my money would be on the likelihood that this woman, and most like her, is a product of the psychobabble industry. My belief is that we have so much crazy partly because the people in charge of crazy are crazy. Just watch the reaction of such when you use the word "crazy" around them. They go crazy.

Joan

So when I married my husband I was only being 'manipulated into lifelong emotional labour'?

She's a silly cow.

David

So when I married my husband I was only being ‘manipulated into lifelong emotional labour’?

Basically, you married an evil genius. Or at least the henchgoon of an evil genius.

Didn’t you know?

jkrank

It's a very sad tweet. Her remark of butterflies is indicative of experiencing something special and quintessentially human.

Instead, she tries to banish it. For some reason, I picture Dr. Doom at a control panel being exhorted by someone (probably Susan) to not fire the Death-O-Ray. There's that moment where Doom considers, then the writers understandably (because he's evil) explicitly have him re-reject himself, and it's up to the heroes to be the heroes.

abacab

Don't underestimate it. Emotional Labour is a major voting block, but subject to slippage to the Lib Dems.

David

As so often with Laurie (and her peers), it’s not entirely clear whether this is what she actually believes or it’s just something she feels obliged to say for effect, to appear cleverly non-conformist, and thereby conform with the expectations of her leftist peer group. Though I suppose the level of sincerity barely matters. In either case, she would have to be a fool.

Watcher In The Dark

If the old Carry On movie franchise was still going, there would be very quickly be a 'Carry On, Idiots.' Dear sweet Ms Pennyworth could be the Charles Hawtry trans character.

pst314

Hypothesis: Every school of leftist theory is a fancy theory to justify a psychological or moral defect.

dicentra

Report:

Saw the new Star Wars.

Takeaway:

JJ Abrams hated the prequels, too.

Spoiler:

It doesn't suck.

David

Hypothesis

There’s an essay by Thomas Sowell on Marx’s personal life, published in The Thomas Sowell Reader. As you dig through Marx’s vanities, tantrums and chronic parasitism, it’s hard not entertain the possibility that much of his “theorising” was an attempt to justify his own exploitative, infantile and deeply unpleasant behaviour.

David

It doesn’t suck.

I may allow The Other Half to take me to see it over the holidays. Because I’m generous that way.

David

Chuffing hell, dicentra. Your Pinterest account now has almost 100,000 items, all scrupulously categorised. I’m tempted to sign up for an account just so I can marvel at the full extent of it.

Theophrastus

Romantic love is a systemic lie designed to manipulate women into lifelong emotional labour.

A lie is an intentional untruth. Systems cannot tell lies because systems don't have intentions. And what agent is designing this system - the one that manipulates women into lifelong emotional labour?

sackcloth and ashes

Don't worry, Laurie. I think your personality works well as a natural contraceptive.

TimT

"Still get butterflies"? Like that time she practically swooned into Ryan Gosling's arms as he swept her out of oncoming traffic.

ACTOldFart

In writing after the remarkable Gosling affair, Penny called for "a little self awareness" on the issue and its repercussions. Well, she has as little self awareness as anyone I've ever come acoss or heard of.

Spiny Norman

WTP,

My belief is that we have so much crazy partly because the people in charge of crazy are crazy.

My BIL is a licensed vocational nurse who works at the local County mental health clinic. He has said more than once that most of the doctors are crazier than the patients.

JerryC

Back to arranged marriages, then. Maybe it's for the best.

Hal

And you have to wonder how this “systemic lie” would explain the romantic feelings of gay couples.

What does a lesbian bring on a second date?

A moving truck.

Hal

He has said more than once that most of the doctors are crazier than the patients.

A) I know a, so to speak, mid level shrink who just recently changed job locations. Her rather emphatic observation is that in both locations, the bosses are more bonkers than the patients.

B) Mount Misery

On rounds at Mount Misery, it's not always easy for Basch to tell the patients from the doctors: Errol Cabot, the drug cowboy whose practice provides him with guinea pigs for his imaginative prescription cocktails . . . Blair Heiler, the world expert on borderlines (a diagnosis that applies to just about everybody) . . . A. K. Lowell, née Aliyah K. Lowenschteiner, whose Freudian analytic technique is so razor sharp it prohibits her from actually speaking to patients . . . And Schlomo Dove, the loony, outlandish shrink accused of having sex with a beautiful, well-to-do female patient.

---Just on general principles, see also The House of God, albeit noting that THOG is about medical doctors being bonkers, where thirty years later, it remained such a 2400 lb gorilla of recommended reading that it got it's own collection of supporting essays.

David

Romantic love is a systemic lie designed to manipulate women into lifelong emotional labour

I’m still processing Laurie’s ostentatious use of the phrase “emotional labour” – a term that generally refers to employees being polite to customers and not having tantrums and meltdowns in the workplace. (One might substitute the word professionalism, but hey.) She implies that this kind of emotional self-possession is not only a form of gendered drudgery but is also the basis of a loving – sorry, “loving” - relationship. Though this doesn’t remotely match any actual relationship I’m aware of. I was under the impression that one of the benefits of a lifelong loving relationship is that the occasional foul mood can be aired, accommodated and ultimately forgiven precisely because the other person loves you.

And note that, once again, Laurie has decided not to respond to the barrage of questions and criticism. She has signalled her piety and self-imagined status, and that’s all that matters.

Hal

I was under the impression that one of the benefits of a lifelong loving relationship is that the occasional foul mood can be aired, accommodated and ultimately forgiven . . . . .

A recurring comment I've run into over time is I married my best friend, and . . .

What I'm more particularly reminded of is a comment of a friend of mine regarding another friend of mine, her husband. She told me one time of going to one of his company parties and having a very puzzled co-worker tell her that some people kept complaining about the husband, but the co-worker never had any problems at all. And his wife replied something to the effect of Oh, so you're intelligent, competent, and capable, and you do your job and do it well, so that someone else doesn't have to do your job for you . . . . and this is speaking of someone where my knowing him hardly even began to approach being as involved with him as his wife, and he would also matter-of-factly comment to me of having to deal with idiots that needed to be nuked from orbit . . . .

Rather by contrast, there was the ex of mine who vehemently attempted to insist that the paying of bills, our then shared rent, etc., was emphatically to be considered an option, not a parameter . . . . In time, she was the one who moved out, I'm the one the landlord was fond of while I was living there . . .

Patrick Brown

"Emotional labour" means [url=http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/nov/08/women-gender-roles-sexism-emotional-labor-feminism]some women think they should get paid for remembering birthdays[/url] (Guardian link, surprisingly enough).

Patrick Brown

Oops, messed up that link.

splotchy

Romantic love is one of the most glorious feelings ever, perhaps only eclipsed by love for a child. Penny is right to note such emotions involve a degree of commitment and giving - this is known as being a caring feeling person; something Penny clearly is not. I suspect when it comes to relationships she focusses more on the taking.

Sad really - her "it's all about victimised ME" approach to life means she misses out on much joy that be found in relationships.

David

Sad really

Well, it’s the kind of presumptuous, dogmatic assertion that a pretentious teenager might air in the hope of scandalising elderly relatives.

Nemo

Theo: "A lie is an intentional untruth." An unsupported assertion of fact is also a lie - and the far more prevalent and pernicious sort, I'd say. For example: "Theophrastus is just a small-minded suburbanite."

WTP

OK, so perhaps I'm the last to discover this but there's a Laura Penny who seems to be Penny Red's exact opposite. She's even an expert on bullshit.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laura_Penny

Jen

I was under the impression that one of the benefits of a lifelong loving relationship is that the occasional foul mood can be aired, accommodated and ultimately forgiven precisely because the other person loves you.

That.

John West

Feminism was started by fat and or ugly women, some lesbian. Since ugly is the majority, it didn't take long to bully many hot, but left leaning babes into the insanity.

Conservative women are still sane and decent, many are hot .... check them out before you get a Walmart special.

David

That.

In terms of so-called “emotional labour,” Laurie has things the wrong way round, at least from where I stand. For instance, from time to time The Other Half gets to see me indulge in tedious venting and general stroppiness - things that I wouldn’t presume to inflict on acquaintances, neighbours or random passers-by. Luckily, he puts up with it (and luckily for him, I generally reciprocate). It doesn’t feel restrictive; quite the opposite. The “emotional labour,” such as it is, is the restraint I often show towards strangers and people I don’t know well. Which is to say, people I don’t love.

WTP

OK, upon further reading it appears I was very mistaken. Cannadian LP is essentially a Cannadian version of UK LP. The title of her book about how awful our colleges are, along with her association with Harry Frankfurt, indicated to me something much different.

Ten
Romantic love is one of the most glorious feelings ever, perhaps only eclipsed by love for a child. Penny is right to note such emotions involve a degree of commitment and giving - this is known as being a caring feeling person; something Penny clearly is not.

Sound psychology speaks of the idealization inherent in the greatest of abstracts, love. A narcissist, however, ultimately devalues others because the supply inevitably runs short - the Narc's reflection is not served by others and so they are discarded - they are devalued where no idealization had or could occur.

This isn't rare out in social traffic, but you'd certainly expect the opposite from any healthy, functional, personal interaction with any healthy, functional psyche.

Funny, because the dismal, classical conformity of ancient, spiritual ethics that proggs hate with such a vengeance has already been replaced with a new enlightenment, stating: Love God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind. And love your neighbor as yourself.

In other words, idealize a higher power and choose to idealize others. But no and a thousand times no. That we cannot have. You hillbillies.

So butterflies? My arse. If you do not idealize, you are not conscious.

Darleen

it doesn't suck

Thanks, di ... got tickets to the 9:20 am show today.

Darleen

btw ... I don't believe Penny is insane, she's evil.

Getting rid of romantic love is to isolate people and make the state their only significant relationship. Her little bon mots, butterflies notwithstanding, are part of what she loves most.

Controlling other people.

R. Sherman

Given that as a result of the Patriarchy's nefarious deception about romantic love, I have agreed within the last two weeks to remodel the bathroom and buy new living room furniture for my wife of thirty years, I would say the Patriarchy is doing it wrong.

I think this should be discussed at the Patriarchy's annual New Year's Eve smoker to be held at the AMVETS Hall in Benkelmann,Nebraska. (BTW, someone needs to sign up to bring the always-loved crockpot of cocktail weenies in BBQ sauce.)

Runcie Balspune

Next week the butterflies will be gone and she'll be blaming climate change.

james

btw ... I don't believe Penny is insane, she's evil

The sum of her ideas is certainly evil.

A few times I flicked through her twitter entries, for a laugh. Unfortunately the effect of such exposure time is after some time is not laughter, but despair.

I would like to think that her utterings are the narcissism of youth- but I suspect not.

andy

"Hypothesis: Every school of leftist theory is a fancy theory to justify a psychological or moral defect."

Bingo.

Theophrastus

Nemo:

An unsupported assertion of fact is also a lie

No, by definition, a lie involves the intention to deceive.

"Theophrastus is just a small-minded suburbanite" uttered without the intention to deceive is (a) true or (b) fair comment (even if untrue) or abuse or a mistake (you have got the name wrong and are thinking of someone else. It's only a lie when uttered with the intention to deceive.

Geezer

I'm new here. David refers to "The Other Half" with a masculine pronoun. Pray tell.

Joan

I'm new here. David refers to "The Other Half" with a masculine pronoun. Pray tell.

Give it a minute. You'll figure it out. :-)

Geezer

Give it a minute. You'll figure it out. :-)

Don't want to figure it out. Want to be told.

Richard

To be fair, she's not only very young, but she has grown up in the spotlight--rather like a pseudo-academic version of a child TV star.

Chris

"The Other Half" - hmmm, I prefer "Better Two Thirds".

Or you could just call me Chris.

Welcome, "Geezer".

Geezer

Thanks, "Chris".

Are you the "Better Two Thirds"?

WTP

Want to be told.

Felt the same way about Santa Claus once. I figgered it out. Though I was wrong about that Canadianne up above. That and butchering the spelling of Canadian. I do think Canadianne should be a word however. So you really can't go by me. I could be wrong about Santa Claus.

Theophrastus

Don't want to figure it out. Want to be told.

Stamping your foot like that rocks the tables round here. And, as my mother used to say, "'Iwant...'never gets".

Geezer

I could be wrong about Santa Claus.

That's why I druther be told than figger it out.

Geezer

Stamping your foot like that rocks the tables round here.

Ain't stampin'. Just askin'.

Theophrastus

To be fair, she's not only very young

She turned 29 in September. Many people are holding down responsible jobs by that age and/or bringing up children. Laurie Penny, on the other hand, is frozen in a state of adolescent, self-regarding repudiation of bourgeois society and its capitalist ethos. Will she ever grow up?

Darleen

[waves at dicentra]

Just got back from the movie. Totally agree.

David

To be fair, she’s not only very young...

As noted above, Laurie is almost 30, a grown woman. More to the point, she imagines herself as a public intellectual, an activist, a revolutionary, and, in her words, “a scholar.” She seems to imagine that her role in life, her righteous destiny, is to tell the rest of us how to live, from above. Hers will be “a new world order.” I see no reason to go easy on her. That would be patronising.

David Gillies

I've said it before: it has to be absolutely exhausting being Laurie Penny. Unless it's a pose, constantly filtering everything through her tedious right-on prejudices must be very wearing. It's a bit like being one of the more tiresome sorts of religious zealot who needs to know whether each and every thing is in accordance with dogma, like those mad Muslims who write to celebrity Imams asking if toothpaste is haram because Mo didn't use it. One would almost feel sorry for her were it not for how baleful her prescriptions for the rest of us would prove to be if she ever got to enact them.

And Geezer, don't be so importunate. If you are still in the dark then silly you. Besides, fussing about pronouns is something we make fun of round here.

pst314

"Romantic love is a systemic lie"

So Laurie Penny is Dr. Sheldon Cooper without the warm, charming, empathic personality.

Geezer

If you are still in the dark then silly you.

Oh, dear! I didn't intend to be importunate.

I visit this place because I admire David Thompson's intelligence and sense of humor.

I didn't realize that some questions are not to be asked here.

The Hickory Wind

Geezer, the answer is very obvious and is not a mystery around here.

Chris, I was wondering only this morning (Sunday's a bit slow in these parts) whether you ever commented here or existed in any cyber-sense. Nice to meet you, as it were.

Geezer

the answer is very obvious and is not a mystery around here

As I said at the beginning, I'm new here. I'd like to hear it from the horse's mouth. Is that too much to ask?

dan

I'd like to hear it from the horse's mouth

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3yED7w1uu8

WTP

Just to be, you know, clear and stuff, I'm quite certain I have the Santa Claus thing nailed. I was just saying, in the grand scheme of things, with all the probabilities of all of what we know at this time about quantum physics, I could be wrong about Santa Claus. The thing is though, also in the grand scheme of things, I'm fine with that tinsey bit of uncertainty. What I'm not fine with is how spell check f's with changing odd words like "tinsey" into "tinsel" but still has no problem with, apparently, any number of n's I wanna put in the word Canadian. But sometimes, as the song from Frozen says, you just gotta let it go.

dicentra

Chuffing hell, dicentra. Your Pinterest account now has almost 100,000 items, all scrupulously categorised. I’m tempted to sign up for an account just so I can marvel at the full extent of it.

You don't need an account to gawk. o_O

Also see my new Pinterest account, wherein I attempt to collect at least one each of the species described in this tome.

Yes, I compulsively classify and categorize. My tech writing job provides plenty of opportunities to create relational databases to Keep Track Of All The Things.

It keeps me off the streets.

dicentra

Feminism was started by fat and or ugly women.

I am fat and ugly and as anti-Feminist as it comes.

But thanks for assuming I'm hot. My avatar is a pretty pink flower, after all.

dicentra

Laurie Penny is Dr. Sheldon Cooper

Sheldon Cooper isn't evil: just a cartoon caricature of a severe case of Asperger's Syndrome, played for laughs.

Although one of the best lines from the show is "He's just one lab accident away from becoming a Super Villain."

dicentra

Oh, fer the sake of Pete: David is gay, as is his Other Half.

Not a secret; not a problem.

dan

"David is gay, as is his Other Half."

Both of them?

J.M. Heinrichs

... and simultaneously.

Cheers

Chester Draws

Feminism was started by fat and or ugly women.

Both untrue and ad hominen. Well done sir!

I'm assuming you start Feminism with the likes Gloria Steinem, Simone de Beauvoir, Germaine Greer, Betty Friedan, etc. Not seeing much fat there. The usual range of looks (when young, obviously).

In any case, play the ball, not the (wo)man.

On the whole the women who started Feminism had a point or two. Which is why we have taken on board much of what they campaigned for. In fact it is their success which has made it difficult for the likes of Penny Red. Because with things moving along reasonably well, she has to invent problems.

dan

Feminism was started by fat and or ugly women.

http://henrymakow.com/upload_images/steinem.jpg

uh...no

David

Both of them?

[ Chokes on coffee. ]

David

Laurie’s latest pronouncement:

You see, when people mock Laurie, and they do, apparently it’s only because they’re fearful and angry at her insights, which, being brilliant, burn men to the bone. And no-one is ever laughing because she flatters herself continually and uses hugely tendentious terms in question-begging ways. As so many in the Indignant Sisterhood do. Often comically.

In Laurie’s world, one shouldn’t be amused by, or dismissive of, claims that (for instance) not being stroppy with customers and managing not to have daily meltdowns is a form of gendered oppression and therefore deserving of extra compensation. “I didn’t burst into tears in front of that difficult customer. I demand an extra £40.”

Saner people would, I think, tend to realise that being, say, a flight attendant entails putting up with a lot of minor irritations from bored and sometimes demanding passengers, and nonetheless being reassuring and polite. That’s pretty much the job and is widely understood. Patience and emotional self-possession are some of the skills it requires. In Laurie’s world, however, this is some kind of patriarchal outrage.

But again, I’m not convinced that Laurie actually believes any of the bollocks she mouths. Her pronouncements are reliably dissonant with her own behaviour, which suggests an instinctive hypocrisy on almost every issue she brings up. To take an obvious example, one of many, are we to believe that Laurie is deeply concerned by the “emotional labour” of polite male security staff – the ones who get randomly abused by Laurie’s sister, whom she then congratulates for her radicalism? Or does the “emotional labour” of polite men not count?

svh

are we to believe that Laurie is deeply concerned by the “emotional labour” of polite male security staff – the ones who get randomly abused by Laurie’s sister, whom she then congratulates for her radicalism? Or does the “emotional labour” of polite men not count?

You should be a shrink, David. :-)

David

You should be a shrink, David. :-)

God, no. I don’t have the patience. I’d probably get fired on the first afternoon.

Patrick Brown

Or in a relationship context, the emotional labour of putting up with a demanding partner. Which no man has ever done, presumably. The concept of "high maintenance" is a myth.

But. My interpretation of the original tweet is that Laurie has been unlucky in love, is feeling a bit sorry for herself, as we've all done, and being Laurie, is expressing it in SJW-isms.

Tim Newman

To be fair, she's not only very young, but she has grown up in the spotlight--rather like a pseudo-academic version of a child TV star.

Very young? She's 29. Jeez, I knew guys who were troop commanders in Iraq when they were 23. I was the general manager of a company in Russia when I was 29. She's not 17 FFS.

Tim Newman

Geezer, the answer is very obvious and is not a mystery around here.

It was to me. Not that it matters one jot.

David

It was to me.

I’ve wheeled in a comfy chair in case you need to sit down.

Jack C

Gay male relationships raise important questions, such as this example: "Who Oppresses Who"?

Whether it should be "who" or "whom" I have no idea, and those that claim to know tend to be overly dogmatic.

Nemo

Theo: I'm on a mobile so won't quote your response, but will just take my original unsupported assertion with a tweak to the subject: "Theophrastus is a paedophile who raped a small boy last night." I maintain it's a lie, and you say otherwise. Ho hum.

David

“Who Oppresses Who”?

It seems odd to think of any functional relationship in terms of oppression, as if it were a default.

Jack C

I've obviously been reading too much Laurie Penny. And not enough Grammar.

David

Or in a relationship context, the emotional labour of putting up with a demanding partner. Which no man has ever done, presumably.

High maintenance? Why, the very idea.

Tell Sackett

But again, I’m not convinced that Laurie actually believes any of the bollocks she mouths.

Let's not forget that she has managed to parlay her drivel into a nice little earner. Some people will believe anything if it keeps the cheques rolling in. The existence of Laurie Penny doesn't bother me, but the fact that she evidently has an audience is more of a worry.

And another thing: isn't it odd that man-haters should spend so much of their time mouthing bollocks? Subconsciously acting out, perhaps?

Theophrastus

Nemo
It's an untruth, not a lie - unless there's an intention to deceive. End of.

Geezer

How many oblique quips does it take to reach a straightforward answer?
Quite a few, it seems.
[David just nods and smiles.]
---------------------------
"So, who is the husband, and who is the wife?"
"What do you mean? We're both guys."
"If you get divorced, who will pay the alimony, and who will collect it?"

Jonathan

When will those wedding bells be ringing out for Penny? I simply can't imagine how this little peach hasn't been snapped up by someone yet, I'm sure she'd make a delightful wife. Anyone fancy taking one for the team?

Nemo

Theo: "End of." Well now you've put it like that what choice do I have? It's no lie that you're a paedophile and bizarre relativist honesty isn't the wonky-wheeled bicycle that the clown quarter of academia rides round on.

Apologies too if anyone thinks the paedo tag unnecessarily belligerent - I thought using it once would be enough, and never imagined that anyone called such would insist it's not a lie!

Nemo

And another apology if I appear a bit pushy for a lurker, but perhaps if I provide another example of 'untruth' it might seem less ranty: "Saddam has weapons of mass destruction and rockets capable of delivering them to Britain in 45 minutes".

PiperPaul

"...mouthing bollocks...
Ummm, I don't think that means what I think it means in this context.

Tim Newman

Speaking of gay folk who like skewering SJWs and feminists, do any of you lot follow Milo Yiannopoulos? I discovered him a month or so back and have been pretty impressed so far, mainly because he is causing cardiac arrest in people I don't like.

R. Sherman

@Theo and Nemo.

There has to be a moral component to what we call, "lying." As Theo points out, people make innocent mistakes all the time in asserting things as true which are not. The moral problem arises when one makes an assertion with knowledge of its falsity (or willful ignorance as to whether the assertion is true or false) for the purpose of causing the recipient to accept the assertion as true and rely upon its truth.

David

Tim,

Milo was mentioned here not too long ago.

Tim Newman

A yes, I remember the post now. But didn't know about Milo then, I've since seen the debate. I hope he does some more, his speech at the end of that one was stirring stuff.

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