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February 22, 2016

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bilbaoboy

Truly spectacular! I'm waiting for a rash of suicides. Life is just too cruel!

What a way to begin my Monday!

A fear of being revealed as a fraud? Ha, my dear, he said patronisingly,your worst fears have come true!

Must admit that I sometimes wonder if David doesn't make these things up, then I click a link and my faith in him is renewed.

rjmadden

and “this can be understood as a type of male domination of female bodies.”

The words 'can be understood as' are doing a lot of work there.

David

For some reason…

I’m having difficulty…

Taking her seriously.

Must be The Patriarchy.

Anna

For some reason… I’m having difficulty… Taking her seriously. Must be The Patriarchy.

Karen M

Ms Edell selflessly shares with us her fascinating array of mental health problems,

Feminist Tumblr is full of this. They all want to score maximum victim points.

David

then I click a link and my faith in him is renewed.

Trusssst in me.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

You see, great feminist thinkers have insisted that “female animals are particularly oppressed” because “we consume animal products which must come from female bodies (i.e., milk and eggs)” and “this can be understood as a type of male domination of female bodies.”

I am guessing this titaness of the philosophical pantheon has never seen a steer.

For some reason, probably my male privilege, I think having one's doodads forcibly removed at a tender age so one can be raised to be eaten is more oppressive than having one's eggs and milk, which otherwise would go to waste, taken.

Of course, that brings us to:

Sadly, and despite her status as a feminist philosopher, Ms Edell can offer no solution to this thorny conundrum, pressing as it must on the minds of all elevated creatures.

Which brings us back to the steers, I would think that there would be no better way to strike a blow at Teh Patriarchy™ and White Privilege™ than an all Charolais diet, but then I am hobbled by lacking the deep thoughts offered by feminist philosophy training.

Rafi

Had a bacon sandwich for breakfast. Women and minorities were hardest hit.

R. Sherman

All these intersections! Where does one begin? Let me suggest that given "sustainability" is apparently a big deal these days, partaking of the never ending supply of dairy and eggs, bestowed upon us by the Great Intersectional Matriarchy, should be A-OK. Don't think of it as female exploitation. That Denver Omelette is the gentle embrace of Mother Gaia.

Liz

One day these people will work out why we laugh at them.

David

One day these people will work out why we laugh at them.

An inability to realistically comprehend how one might seem to others is a defining feature of narcissism. And if one’s social circle is fairly insular and homogeneous, as it often is among “social justice” devotees, whose backgrounds and pretensions tend to be quite similar, this problem is compounded.

Trevor

Being vegetarian or vegan involves a kind of privilege, and we do not want to make the moral ideal one that can only be accessed by those already privileged in society.

Translation: Obviously - axiomatically - black people can do no wrong and must never be criticised. But they do seem to eat a lot of fried chicken, and I'm having trouble making excuses for them.

sackcloth and ashes

'Animals and women are exploited quite differently in the patriarchy'.

There is a joke about Welshmen and New Zealanders that springs to mind here.

bilbaoboy

Talking of competition among victims/minorities, which we weren't right now, but...

Michón Neal is a minority of minorities: female assigned at birth, mostly black, disabled, genderqueer, aromantic, pansexual, kinky, demisexual, poor, noetisexual, polyamorous, singleish, RA, a survivor, intersex, and left-handed.

One of the 'awesome' writers at the magazine!

Sort of makes me feel rather inferior.

bilbaoboy

I misread 'aromantic' as aromatic...

My head whirled at the thought!

Trevor

I misread 'aromantic' as aromatic...

As if ze could sound any more adorable than ze already does.

John D

Is Your Bacon Sandwich Oppressing Women?

Wife says no.

Phew.

Sam

My wife *cooked* us bacon on Saturday morning. I think she may have false consciousness.

David

My wife *cooked* us bacon on Saturday morning. I think she may have false consciousness.

It’s internalised misogyny, obviously. There can be no other explanation.

sk60

refraining from consuming animals and their products is a necessary step toward undercutting patriarchal power.

Oh no. Even my omelette is oppressing women. Is there no escape from The Patriarchy?

sackcloth and ashes

'Michón Neal is a minority of minorities: female assigned at birth, mostly black, disabled, genderqueer, aromantic, pansexual, kinky, demisexual, poor, noetisexual, polyamorous, singleish, RA, a survivor, intersex, and left-handed'.

Or, as I prefer to put it, 'dead within 30 seconds of arriving in Raqqa'.

David

Because this simply can’t be posted too often:

“Fuck patriarchy.”

mojo

“Is meat consumption a heterosexual thing?”

Nope. Uh-uh. Not touching that one. ;)

mojo

PS: the glasses are flats, right? Part of the costume?

Greg

Ms. Edell's hair style and color might change fortnightly, but her natural armpit hair is a seems to be a constant.


Farnsworth M Muldoon

Michón Neal is a minority of minorities...

Indeed, xer is a multitudes:

I am the dragon that breathes in the night. My two heads are always in accord. Step to me with a sword that's less than Truth and a simple flick of my tail shall send you flying back into your nothingness. I am everything the current world fears, because knowledge has become damned. I am beyond sex, race, and any other box you'd like to try to trap me in. My wings spread far, and I can fly as high as I need to. My fire scares away those with weak constitutions; but those who know better are warmed by it.

Yeah, OK, if you say so.

In English: I'm a writer of queer, polyamorous, and aromantic cuil fiction with plenty of POC, reframer of perspectives on postmodernwoman.com, and metanoiac-alethiologist.

Metanoiac-alethiologist ? I thought this was going to be in English.

In other news, I'm a 20-something genderqueer, mostly black, intelligent, creative, and crazy individual

I am willing to take her word for "20-something genderqueer, mostly black", there is not a lot of evidence for, "intelligent, creative", but, "crazy individual" is indisputable.

WTP

I am the dragon that breathes in the night. My two heads are always in accord. Step to me with a sword that's less than Truth and a simple flick of my tail shall send you flying back into your nothingness. I am everything the current world fears, because knowledge has become damned. I am beyond sex, race, and any other box you'd like to try to trap me in. My wings spread far, and I can fly as high as I need to. My fire scares away those with weak constitutions; but those who know better are warmed by it.

I'm a picker, I'm a grinner. I'm a lover and I'm a sinner... I'm a joker, I'm a smoker. I'm a midnight toker...

Jeff Guinn
The main argument you will likely hear in favour of feminist vegetarianism is that of linked oppression. Basically the idea is that women are consistently objectified in a morally problematic way that is very similar to the way animals are objectified.

Perhaps OT, but having read that, I can't get this problem out of my mind:

Pro-choice vegans. How do their heads not explode?
sackcloth and ashes

'I am the dragon that breathes in the night. My two heads are always in accord. Step to me with a sword that's less than Truth and a simple flick of my tail shall send you flying back into your nothingness. I am everything the current world fears, because knowledge has become damned. I am beyond sex, race, and any other box you'd like to try to trap me in. My wings spread far, and I can fly as high as I need to. My fire scares away those with weak constitutions; but those who know better are warmed by it'.

For students of British political history, that sounds remarkably like one of Harold Wilson's interviews with Barrie Penrose and Roger Courtiour.

sH2

I'm being triggered by her armpit hair.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

I'm being triggered by her armpit hair.

You mustn't let it, or you will miss the complete package.

Celia is a 21-year-old philosophy graduate who regularly posts on serious issues, including feminist theory and mental health, in addition to making some of Tumblr’s most popular fashion posts.

Bridget loves that Celia’s posts strike the perfect balance between style and substance. And maybe there’s something more to be said about Millennials desire to have the whole package (be smart, dress smart).

Gaze upon smart beauty and style that hasn't been seen since perhaps Sophia Loren in her prime.

rxc

What about all that fruit and grain that vegans eat? They are the reproductive organs of the plants, analagous to the ovaries of the oppressed animals, and they just grind them up and cook them, or even EAT THEM RAW! Imagine that - eating the reproductive organisms of potentially sentient beings!

Sound pretty oppressive and gross to me. I guess we just have to stick to leaves and twigs, although the leaves are arguably analagous to the lungs...

Only ethical thing left to eat is rocks - liquid granite spewing out of volcanos.

randian

One wonders how diabetics, who must eat very low-carb diets, are supposed to fare in a high-carb vegetarian utopia. Perhaps the Colony solution is being contemplated.

NielsR

"I am the dragon..." I'm guessing secret Game of Thrones obsessive.

"I am everything the current world fears, because knowledge has become damned." whut?knowledge has always equalled power (but not all knowledge is equal). I'm guessing 'I can't get a proper job'

I am beyond sex, race, and any other box you'd like to try to trap me in." breathing?

pst314

"Only ethical thing left to eat is rocks"

There are those who demand that we respect the right of rocks to be free from exploitation. After all, can you *prove* that rocks are not sapient beings? /Oh Dear Lord.

aelfheld

Mayhap someone should introduce Miss Edell to calf fries.

dicentra

INSTALANCHE!

Hide the contraband! HIDE THE CONTRABAND!

dicentra

calf fries

Anything like Rocky Mountain Oysters?

Daniel Ream

I am the dragon that breathes in the night.

I am Darkwing Feminist?

David

HIDE THE CONTRABAND!

[ Sounds of repeated toilet flushing. ]

Act casual. Say nothing.

Darleen

What about all that fruit and grain that vegans eat? They are the reproductive organs of the plants, analagous to the ovaries of the oppressed animals, and they just grind them up and cook them, or even EAT THEM RAW! Imagine that - eating the reproductive organisms of potentially sentient beings!

Funny you should ask ...

Darleen

ARGH


embed fail ... so let me link ... Dissertation on Plants Rights

JerryC

What's the deal with feminists and those Far Side glasses? Seems like a mandatory acoutrement. Do they help smash The Patriarchy somehow?

Monty James

Oh. One of the girls with neon colored hair.

Bart

What's so significant about breathing in the night? I breathe in the night all the time and I'm usually not even aware I'm doing it.

RobH

Well, when you smash The Patriarchy, you don't want to get the little shards in your eyes, do you?

Room 237

This is why there can never be such a thing as conservative satire -- how do you satirize people like this?

Sporkatus

Bonus question:
I see the helpful translator of the lunacy has video game material lurking in the edge of his screenshot. He (surely he) must be One Of Those Shitlords We Hear So Much About.

Splotchy

One of my youngsters knew a male "vegan feminist" at university - in quotes as this chap considered the two criteria were essential to the overall philosophy. My son attempted several times to explain this philosophy to me, but our howls of laughter prevented the conversation getting beyond the premise that bovine artificial insemination was akin to rape of the innocent and oppressed heifer - and come the revolution of "vegan feminists" the evil patriarchal artificial inseminators would likely be first against the wall.

The naivety is quite touching really - this hapless youth obviously had romantic notions of the heifer instead being consensually taken gently from behind by some respectful young bullock mooing sweet nothings in her ear...........

Hucklebuck

Well, if my bacon sandwich isn't oppressing womyn, I'm certainly not going to waste any more time on it.

Spiny Norman

bilbaoboy,

Must admit that I sometimes wonder if David doesn't make these things up, then I click a link and my faith in him is renewed.

If our generous host DID invent these things as parody, you can be certain they would be much more rational. On the other hand, I still can't shake the suspicion that "Everyday Feminist" wasn't created as an elaborate hoax to bait genuinely wackadoodle feminists into post these inanities for the public's amusement.

Most definitely related:

Good news everyone! Godfrey Elfwick is back on Twitter. ;-)

Farnsworth M Muldoon

One of the girls with neon colored hair.

Warning signs and labels are the same lurid colors. Not a coincidence I think.

fnord

HIDE THE CONTRABAND!

it's Dave I've got the stuff

DAVE'S NOT HERE!

R. Sherman

Just saw the Instalanche. Rushed over with more chips.

dicentra

That cowboy poetry Darleen posted is pretty good stuff.

As a plant (fancier) myself, I prefer to eat plant predators: MEATY MEAT!

Will

Because I lead a sheltered life, I had no idea what "noetisexual" meant. So, I pasted it into Bing.com (to fight the power) and got exactly one hit: everydayfeminism.com.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

Because I lead a sheltered life, I had no idea what "noetisexual" meant.

It is not that so much as not being up on the latest in made-up carp. I think it has to do with this buncombe, The Noetic Sciences", made up by former astronaut Edgar Mitchell who had some sort of alleged insight on the voyage back to earth, which was likely a touch of hypoxia or a bad astronaut ice cream bar.

What are the Noetic Sciences ? Since you asked, " no•et•ic: From the Greek noēsis / noētikos, meaning inner wisdom, direct knowing, or subjective understanding."

IOW, made-up carp.

But Wait ! That's Not All !

For centuries, philosophers from Plato forward have used the term noetic to refer to experiences that pioneering psychologist William James (1902) described as:

…states of insight into depths of truth unplumbed by the discursive intellect. They are illuminations, revelations, full of significance and importance, all inarticulate though they remain; and as a rule they carry with them a curious sense of authority.

So I guess a noetisexual is one who has inarticulate sex, but with a curious sense of authority, whatever the hell that means.

Frank

These poor poor children. The internet is forever and one day things may change. Snigger.

mojo

Right! Wot's all this, then?

R. Sherman

Science!

Specifically: N = C + {fb (cm) . fb (tc)} + fb (Ts) + fc . ta, where N=force in Newtons required to break the cooked bacon, fb=function of the bacon type, fc=function of the condiment/filling effect, Ts=serving temperature, tc=cooking time, ta=time or duration of application of condiment/filling, cm=cooking method, C=Newtons required to break uncooked bacon.

dicentra

AceOLanche!

Bring back the contraband! I SAY BRING BACK THE CONTRABAND!

BeckoningChasm

It used to be that insane people were put into asylums. Now, we force them to write columns for newspapers. I'd say we're not making any progress regarding cruelty toward the insane, but then I guess the columnists get salaries so now I'm not sure.

Perfessor Plum

Can such a person---assuming that a pimple-faced, bulb-nosed excrescence might be in the class of persons---ever get enough attention?

arik

I got a big piece of meat for her...

Sorry. but someone had to say it.

You know you were all thinking it.

:)

Jonathan Stuart Berkey

Michón Neal is a minority of minorities: female assigned at birth, mostly black, disabled, genderqueer, aromantic, pansexual, kinky, demisexual, poor, noetisexual, polyamorous, singleish, RA, a survivor, intersex, and left-handed.

Brings to mind this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FB9DSWxtsgU

Q30

Amid all of this compassionate concern about not destroying life... unwanted fetuses are just worthless blobs of matter which can be be sucked-out for any reason and you're a superstitious, over-sympathetic sop for thinking that an abortion is not morally different from blowing one's nose or going to the bathroom.

I am very pro-choice, but I find this disconnect to be depressing and darkly humorous.

Will

So I guess a noetisexual is one who has inarticulate sex, but with a curious sense of authority, whatever the hell that means.

It sounds like a consignment of geriatric shoe menders, if you ask me.

rabbit

All of this, of course, is complicated by the fact that carrot juice is murder.

David

Celia Edell… holds a B.A. in philosophy from University of Western Ontario and is currently doing her masters degree in philosophy at University of Sheffield in England. Her interests include critical race theory, mental health awareness, and bad made-for-TV movies.

There’s something quite saddening about someone who’s spent a fortune and years of her life on two degrees in philosophy and hasn’t yet realised that “critical race theory” is appalling hokum, a ludicrous con. But then apparently we live in an age when our philosophers take endless selfies and tweet pictures of cats. Strange days.

David

AceOLanche! Bring back the contraband! I SAY BRING BACK THE CONTRABAND!

The stash won’t stretch that far, goddammit. Someone help me cut it with horse laxative.

Dan

http://everydayfeminism.com/2015/04/liking-problematic-media/

Read the transcript, oy vey

Ted S., Catskill Mtns., NY, USA

no•et•ic: From the Greek noēsis / noētikos, meaning inner wisdom,

So a noetisexual is someone who prefers to masturbate.

David

Read the transcript, oy vey.

It’s a rambling slurry of begged questions, factual and historical ignorance, an indifference to finding out what the relevant statistics might be, and an eagerness to arrive at predetermined conclusions and lots of virtue signalling regardless of reality and all the things she can’t be bothered to find out. And this woman has paid good money to become a philosopher, an intellectual.

WTP

eagerness to arrive at predetermined conclusions and lots of virtue signalling regardless of reality and all the things she can’t be bothered to find out

Well, that's the way the lions share of philosophers, instructors and such, have been credentialed over the last couple of decades. Why should recent copies of of those bad copies show any improvement? Much of it has been paid for/subsidized by taxpayers. And there's no end in sight for this nonsense.

Rafi

Identity politics > logic + facts.

David

Identity politics > logic + facts.

And once a discipline has been captured by the left and degraded in this way, it’s hard to see how that discipline can ever be restored.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

So a noetisexual is someone who prefers to masturbate.

Perhaps, but only if done with truth unplumbed by the discursive intellect and a curious sense of authority.

Rob

"Basically the idea is that women are consistently objectified in a morally problematic way that is very similar to the way animals are objectified."

I have a pinup of a nude pig on my wall.

Jonathan

And once a discipline has been captured by the left and degraded in this way, it’s hard to see how that discipline can ever be restored.

The left is so entrenched in the Educational Establishment it would be the work of decades to reverse it. Michael Gove was on the right lines, but he was demonised by the leftist media and the teaching unions, so much so that he was pushed aside by Cameron.
The entirely arbitrary expectation that 50% of children should go to University has also given a boost to far-left idealogues, as it's resulted in a proliferation of non-rigorous courses where subjective opinions, rather than hard facts, are the norm.

Watcher in the dark

"Does feminism require vegetarianism?"

I understand where she is coming from. Most beef comes from cows... oh, wait... I get it now.

Watcher in the dark

Farnsworth wrote: "So a noetisexual is someone who prefers to masturbate.

Perhaps, but only if done with truth unplumbed by the discursive intellect and a curious sense of authority."

I thought the definition would be that you can wank yourself to frazzled crisp providing you don't get any pleasure from it.

neil watson

Nice axilla on Our Gal

David

Meanwhile, in Oklahoma, it’s not so much a university as a pretentious guilt camp. They’re “prompting healthy dialogue” by trying to make white students feel guilty for, and embarrassed by, things that aren’t their fault. One might almost call it a kind of psychological abuse.

Shawn L.

"INSTALANCHE!

Hide the contraband! HIDE THE CONTRABAND!"

Hey, if you didn't want to share, all you had to do was say so.

Dave LeBlanc

Well, my wife likes bacon and does shave her armpits. Is this a patriarchy thing I was unaware of?

sackcloth and ashes

'There’s something quite saddening about someone who’s spent a fortune and years of her life on two degrees in philosophy and hasn’t yet realised that “critical race theory” is appalling hokum, a ludicrous con'.

Some people out there just deserve to be ripped off. Because they're mugs.

Dave LeBlanc

Also, Everydayfeminism.com is a spoof, right? I mean, it has to be a giant put-on. Please tell me it's not for real.

D

Some people, especially the feminists mentioned in this article, have way too much time on their hands. I don't feel oppressed by eating a bacon sandwich, especially as buying one helps support our farmers.

WTP

Some people out there just deserve to be ripped off. Because they're mugs.

OK, I know I'm sounding like an annoying broken record here, but it seems like the point is not getting through. Given the payback rate on student "loans" and the tax dollars subsidizing "education", WE are the mugs.

dicentra

hasn’t yet realised that “critical race theory” is appalling hokum, a ludicrous con.

Either that or she's very much In On The Con.

Which, I suspect that she is, given how much she profits from it.

gekkobear

"Being vegetarian or vegan involves a kind of privilege, and we do not want to make the moral ideal one that can only be accessed by those already privileged in society. "

Silly, don't they know any true leftist doesn't care about the poor when there is something "more important" that can help them gain power; control, and crush the poor under ever increasing costs?

If you look at this, next you'll wonder if driving the price of electricity and transportation out of the range of any except eh upper class is worth trying to prevent a 1 degree increase in average temperature over the next 100 years.

You're not allowed to ask, or question if only the rich should benefit.
You're supposed to try to get government access and control so you're one of the few in power so you don't lose when you force everyone else to suffer.

IF they haven't puzzled out this simple step of the process; then I guess education really is going downhill.

WTP

Well at least Ben Shapiro gets it...

Shapiro’s responded in his trademark bombastic fashion, saying the event would go on regardless. “The campus fascists have taken over,” he said. “I pay taxes in the state of California; I’m paying for these whiny children to be indoctrinated by radical leftists.”

http://www.mediaite.com/online/university-president-shuts-down-conservative-journalists-speech-citing-free-exchange-of-ideas/

mojo

"Good jobs for Philosophers, too!"
-- Firesign Theatre
"Any More Rocket Fuel For YOU Hard-hats?"

Hedgehog

Don't know if this has been mentioned here yet, but apparently disagreeing with feminists on twitter now makes you a non-person.

http://theothermccain.com/2016/02/22/freestacy-rsmccain-will-not-be-restored-sextroublebook-suspended/

David, I suggest you watch out.

David

David, I suggest you watch out.

I don’t have a Twitter account. And I’ve yet to see any evidence that Typepad is inclined to the same partisan behaviour regarding its customers.

B Moe

Little does the poor child realize that there is nothing a true blue member of the patriarchy enjoys more than ripping the seeds and sex organs from from defenseless female plants that can't even flee and eating them raw right in front of them as they tremble in fear.

Fred the Fourth

zzzzzzzzzzzzzz LANCHE zzzzz....aahhh...
First, I want those Ace bozos to get in line behind. I (we) was here first.
Second, I want the Contraband Transport Officer on deck RIGHT NOW!
Third, I want a SHRUBBERY! One of those that is a bit lower over there, and higher up here, and surrounded by a little white fence.
(What do you mean There Are No Shrubberies in the contraband? It's all "controlled substances"? Darn. OK, folks, everybody back on the bus! Back to Glenn's! If we hurry we can be back in time for the nightly Bourbon!)

Tim Newman

Oh boy. Follow the links.

David

Oh boy. Follow the links.

Oh my. I can’t say Ms Jane’s letter inspires much sympathy. More a kind of… morbid curiosity.

Flynpigranch

"I have a pinup of a nude pig on my wall."
So you are the one who bought my Farm Animals are Sexy Too 2016 calendar!!

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