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June 07, 2016

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David

You’ll be thrilled to hear that Ms Armstrong also paints.

STB190

I can't tell which bits are the good ones. I need help.

sH2

I got to end of the video and it says "watch it again".
I don't think I will.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

You’ll be thrilled to hear that Ms Armstrong also paints.

Well, though your selection of her exceptional paintings certainly depicts what should be the audience's reaction to her performance, it in no way begins to compare with the Michaelangelo like magnificence of Dropping a Qualia Mug Adrian Parsons Left in My Rental Car, (The silence/foreskin of Adrian Parsons is Overrated), "a screenshot work in progress", a print of which will only set you back 200 frogskins - a bargain at half the price.

Through multiple collaborations a conceptual arsenal is accumulated, a dense layering of references and narratives, both public and private, building towards a practice of social mythology. I operate in a field of participation and nonconsensual assemblage. Objects are imbued with signification as they circulate among individuals and relationships, readymades become relics. The triptych, Dropping a Qualia Mug Adrian Parsons Left in My Rental Car, (The silence/foreskin of Adrian Parsons is Overrated), 2013 was conceived in collaboration with the exhibition curator Eames Armstrong, as well as Ai Wei Wei, Joseph Beuys, Sherrie Levine, Richard Prince, among others, but not Adrian Parsons. Parson's oft cited significance as a symbol of performance in the District of Columbia enters the work as a fictitious trace, asserting a dynamic shift in the collective narrative of contemporary history, and questioning to what extent authorship can be forced through implication.

As soon as I find a translator for gibberish, I'll let you know what that means.

Back to the performance, I did find her partner's initial channeling of Jerry Lewis inspirational.

Kevin  Riches

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/2f/b1/f0/2fb1f0ff1589fb03ffa4814f3aef0929.jpg

Kevin  Riches

'I operate in a field of participation and nonconsensual assemblage'..

Ah! Then he possibly has a real job on a farm picking cabbages and suchlike? That would leave the weekends free to circulate relics and nibble on qualia.

Mark

Is seems the Vimeo website disabled comments.

Too bad, i was hoping for some form of explanation-education.

Criticas

Well, though your selection of her exceptional paintings certainly depicts what should be the audience's reaction to her performance, it in no way begins to compare with the Michaelangelo like magnificence of Dropping a Qualia Mug Adrian Parsons Left in My Rental Car, (The silence/foreskin of Adrian Parsons is Overrated), "a screenshot work in progress".

That work is a "collaboration", probably because she needed someone to take the photos. Figuring out the timer is soo STEM.

bilbaoboy

David

As ever, you are at the cutting edge. I expect Her Gracious Majesty to award you an MBE for your untiring dedication to the exposure of the 'arts', cough, cough!

I'm glad I pay my taxes (and I do, laddies, shut up at the back there!) in Spain. None of my cash has gone on that .........

bilbaoboy

Question for Tim Newman, when he shows up:

Tim, where does this woman stand on your Engineer to Arty-type scale.

She has actually put paint on paper (yes have a look, you will appreciate it), so....

sk60

Her website says she "likes challenge, and art that is difficult".

Funny how this 'difficult' art requires zero skill.

Fred the Fourth

"Nonconsensual assemblage"
So...he steals stuff?
Or maybe, puts stuff in one place without the affirmative permission of the bits of stuff?
(It might help if I knew which language I was translating FROM...)

David

Funny how this ‘difficult’ art requires zero skill.

Despite the inevitable pretensions of cleverness and transgression, after watching the video the word that comes to mind is bumbling. Even by the standards of incompetence we’ve come to expect, and even as a ruse, it’s remarkably sloppy and inept. At no point is it convincing that the alleged artists know what they’re doing, or care, or have anything specific in mind. It really is just, “I’ll piss about with a distortion pedal and you drink beer in your pants.” That’s the sum total of the artistic process. And so it’s sort of entertaining, or almost entertaining, to juxtapose these grandiose proclamations with the actual flummery seen in the videos. And then try to imagine a mind in which that juxtaposition isn’t mortifying or laughable. A mind in which one is a credible description of the other.

Steve E

I think the trick to this "art" is in the beverage. In both linked "performances" Mr. Rossetti maintains a tight grip on a can of something-or-other (cranberry juice?); perhaps with a dram or two of vodka? Often times i've commented to my wife, while attending a performance of Shakespeare at the Stratford Festival, how much more enjoyable the performance would be if only the actors were carrying around litre sized cans of cranberry juice.

Daniel Ream

As soon as I find a translator for gibberish, I'll let you know what that means.

Huh. Clearly I've been hanging around these types too much, because reading that it seemed pretty clear to me.

Adrian Parsons is a "famous" performance artist in D.C. who circumcised himself on stage; he clearly schtupped this bint and then dumped her and this is her equivalent of keying his car.

R. Sherman

An earlier performance by Ms Armstrong and Mr Rossetti. . .

I'd successfully put that prior post out of my mind. Thanks for reminding me.

Not.

David

Thanks for reminding me.

Hey, I’m just trying to shovel some culture down your gullet.

What?

ace

More art:

http://www.eamesarmstrong.com/on-paper-fall-2015.html

MC

A lot of gorging and puking in EA art collection. Still better than the video inflicted on us at the top of the page.

It is a tribute to capitalism and free markets that they throw up such a surplus as to be able to feed these useless mouths. A hundred years ago they'd have starved in the gutters, a thousand years ago they'd have been quietly, humanely knocked on the head and buried.

Farnsworth M. Muldoon

Even moar art:

Soft Night Hekate Moon", wherein something daring is done with two flashlights taped to herself, the conclusion of which is a fair representation of someone stoned out of his gourd marveling at the tape. Whoa.

What puzzles me, though, is why these collossi of the art world are such blazingly incompetent videographers.

MC

https://vimeo.com/108869637

I have shaken off bewilderment, burst through the barriers of contempt and now only feel pity. She needs tough love, it's true, but with a hug every now and then.

I notice that all the videos she posts have only a handful of views, many of which must be from people on this blog. That's sad.

champ

"You’ll be thrilled to hear that Ms Armstrong also paints"

Self-portrait of Ms Armstrong looking into a mirror?

Trevor

The Diva's vocal coaches must have been horrified to see her endanger the precious instrument that is her gaping maw by lighting up a cigarette.

Farnsworth M. Muldoon

I notice that all the videos she posts have only a handful of views, many of which must be from people on this blog. That's sad.

The rest are from her parents. sobbing softly, wondering where they went wrong. Sadder still.

Paul

I can't tell which bits are the good ones. I need help.

It's the bit where it finishes.

Paul

Why are there no rabid packs of wild dogs when you could use them?

FlynPigRanch

If Ms Armstrong and Mr Rossetti wear only their underwear on stage, what do they wear to bed?
Answer:Depends

R. Sherman

Hey, I’m just trying to shovel some culture down your gullet.

In fairness, the work does have a beginning, a middle and and an end, occurring at 00:01, 06:16 and 12:32 respectively.

So, it's got that going for it.

dicentra

the work does have a beginning, a middle and and an end,

Oh hey.

The Three Unities.

So, neo-neo-classical and stuff.

Hal

In fairness, the work does have a beginning, a middle and and an end . . .

In parallel, or as an antidote, I'm reminded of the observation that mobius strippers never show their backsides.

Atempdog

I'm actually rather taken with painting you've shared. It's funny as hell. It reminds me of that scene in Team American: World Police where the puppet is throwing up in the alley.

big al

I got to 1:14. I truly admire anyone who got farther :)

David Taylor

One of my children had to write a song and video themselves singing it and dancing with one of their siblings. I'm willing to bet it had more artistic merit than anything linked to in this topic so far. And not just because I'm their father.

I have been to one piece of 'performance art', many years ago. It was just because I was trying to get along with the girl who asked me to go. I have no idea why she was going.

jones

Deep.

Robert of Ottawa

I get it - it's a love song. OK They're making it up as they go along.

David Gillies

There's a scorpion pit somewhere just begging to have this lot thrown in it.

Robert of Ottawa

An ode to tuberculosis

WTP

I lasted one minute and 21 seconds. Though I had a college roommate who liked Yoko Ono, her singing actually, so I have an unfair advantage of having had experience with such things.

Rightoffenghis

Always with the grotesque nudity or semi nudity. And fixation on forcing unfortunately timed (but normal) bodily functions In public.

The mind reels at what Freud would have to say about their maturation.

jones

I keep trying to watch the vid but it keeps freezing....

Honest.

Fred the Fourth

OK,maybe I'm violating some unwritten rule here, but try this for an antidote.

www.duow.us

My only connection is non-commercial - one of these ladies attended elementary school with my kids.

Trevor

It's a close-run thing, but I might just prefer the Susan Boyle version.

Tim Newman

Question for Tim Newman, when he shows up:

Tim, where does this woman stand on your Engineer to Arty-type scale.

Well, she's at least bothered to go out and buy a canvas, paint, and brushes so that does at least make her claim to be an artists slightly more plausible than those who, say, stand around in strap-ons slurping lager out of a tin. But insofar as her output requires skill, talent, patience, vision, dedication, or a mastery of techniques she might just as well be on her way to Ann Summers having stopped by Spar for a four-pack of Old Speckled Hen.

Incidentally, the ex-husband of "Angela" sent me an email. You will be surprised to learn that she was bitter, angry, and unable to accept any fault in herself and refused to communicate at all when things didnt go her way. He expressed dismay that 10 years later she is still displaying the same characteristics having hoped, for her sake, his unfortunate experience of them was merely youthful aberration. It was certainly interesting to get the other side of the story.

jones

Tim,

You really are describing borderline personality disorder.

I am quite sure the ex is, 1.suffering and 2.will continue to do so for a long time to come. I only hope there are no children involved.

Ray de Caracas del Norte

Is it just me or is that guy the spitting image of Arnold Stang?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uv7lwm6_QE

R. Sherman

. . .[T]hose who, say, stand around in strap-ons slurping lager out of a tin.

I was aware of such types back when I was in college. Of course, they weren't in the Art Department, but rather consisted of unfortunate pledges over on
"fraternity row" before hazing was outlawed.

Darleen

Well, when society collapses, I'm warmed by the thought that these people won't survive more than 36 hours.

Like over-bred turkeys, they don't have the brains not to stand around in the rain gawking at the sky and drown.

Vince N

... was conceived in collaboration with the exhibition curator Eames Armstrong, as well as Ai Wei Wei ...

Ai Wei Wei has been in the news a lot over the past several years for having taken a lot of garbage from the Chinese gangsters "authorities", but has anyone noticed that his art is, well, garbage?

JuliaM

A launching pad, eh? I think the payload just blew up on ignition...

Tim Newman

I am quite sure the ex is, 1.suffering and 2.will continue to do so for a long time to come. I only hope there are no children involved.

Oh, I'm quite sure there is borderline personality disorder. There are no children involved, each seems too self-centred to reproduce. As for the ex suffering, I'm sure he suffered a lot, but...here's the situation he voluntarily went into:

Yes both Angela and I were Polyamourous when we met. Before the marriage she was steadily dating two other people, separately, a man and a woman. I was dating two people long distance. Angela continued to see her two partners even after she returned from her home country (where she was waiting for a year for a marriage visa). I was good friends with both of them. She also dated another man while in her home country for about 6 months. While she was in her home country I met and started dating someone steadily in NYC.. That person was not Poly at the time but let her know after our first platonic date that I was Poly and was engaged to be married with Angela and that hopefully Angela would be returning. I continued dating her after Angela returned from Russia. I never had a problem with Angela dating others, having sex with others or loving others. Like I said I was good friends with both of Angela's lovers and still see them from time to time around NYC. The problem did not stem from Polyamory at least not on my end.. The problems stemmed from VERY bad communication or rather lack thereof.

Angela was 21 or 22 at the time. Her ex husband was about 40. Angela's other lover was in his mid-30s. If I were to guess, she was doing this to get back at her parents who even to this day she rages against for being too old fashioned and close minded.

Anna

At no point is it convincing that the alleged artists know what they’re doing, or care, or have anything specific in mind. It really is just, “I’ll piss about with a distortion pedal and you drink beer in your pants.”

It's not just shit, it's really dated shit. Why is it always the 1970s with these people?

David

Why is it always the 1970s with these people?

Heh. Quite. Even the idea of a “queer experimental film festival” seems comically retro, an antiquated hangover from another age.

Jonathan

"Nonconsensual assemblage"

I'm guessing it's some kind of rape.

David Hadley

"Nonconsensual assemblage"

There was a lot of that when my kids used to argue over their Duplo.

TheTooner

"...It is a tribute to capitalism and free markets that they throw up such a surplus as to be able to feed these useless mouths. ..."

So, blame capitalism?

WTP

Ironically (I think I'm using that word correctly...I'm really not sure any more) this thread is reminding me of John Cage's 4:33, to wit via wiki:

4′33″ (pronounced "Four minutes, thirty-three seconds" or just "Four thirty-three") is a three-movement composition by American experimental composer John Cage (1912–1992). It was composed in 1952, for any instrument or combination of instruments, and the score instructs the performer(s) not to play their instrument(s) during the entire duration of the piece throughout the three movements. The piece purports to consist of the sounds of the environment that the listeners hear while it is performed, although it is commonly perceived as "four minutes thirty-three seconds of silence". The title of the piece refers to the total length in minutes and seconds of a given performance, 4′33″ being the total length of the first public performance.

Conceived around 1947–48, while the composer was working on Sonatas and Interludes, 4′33″ became for Cage the epitome of his idea that any sounds may constitute music. It was also a reflection of the influence of Zen Buddhism, which Cage studied since the late 1940s. In a 1982 interview, and on numerous other occasions, Cage stated that 4′33″ was, in his opinion, his most important work. The New Grove Dictionary of Music and Musicians describes 4′33″ as Cage's "most famous and controversial creation".

"Reminded" or "blame"...Perhaps that's what they were going for and failed even more miserably than as it appears.

Mark G

Did that guy go tinkle in the little black garbage bag?

Joe

By calling this "art," they are identifying what they believe to now be the height of our virtue as a species.

David

By calling this “art,” they are identifying what they believe to now be the height of our virtue as a species.

I think what makes this third-rate hucksterism so wearying (besides the time wasted in enduring it) is the presumption and insult, the implication that it’s good enough for the likes of you.

jabrwok

Off-Topic, but Darleen (or anyone else who might know), what's the current status of Protein Wisdom? All I get is a blank screen.

Thanks.

Ben

the presumption and insult, the implication that it’s good enough for the likes of you.

The only thing that's shocking about any of this stuff is how fucking awful it is.

jones

"The only thing that's shocking about any of this stuff is how fucking awful it is."

Aye. I once had the awful experience of going to a similar kind of hell in Glasgee a few years back (I was trying to impress a pretty young thing.....) and what struck me was how others appeared to be buying into it with vocal analyses of form, function and other metaphysical mind-wreck....

Felt like having a sympathy vomit...

David

The only thing that’s shocking about any of this stuff is how fucking awful it is.

Watching these things – almost any of them - you have to wonder, was there ever a time when the people involved looked at what they were doing, at each other, at any of their peers, and thought, “Hm. We’re a bit shit at this, aren’t we?” Was there ever a brief flickering of shame or humility, or even just frustration at their own inadequacy? Was that thread ever pulled at?

David Taylor

I like the way these 'artists' often use the idea of 'nonconsensual something' in their 'art' to make it challenging or whatever. Being the same people on the front lines of demanding safe spaces and crying if someone looks at them funny.

They love to 'challenge' other people but crumble as soon as they hear a differing opinion.

Useless brats, all of them.

Trevor

Was there ever a brief flickering of shame or humility, or even just frustration at their own inadequacy?

This question, or some variant thereof, comes up time and time again. None of the possible answers is terribly appetising. In the field graced by these particular luminaries, shame or humility are sighted about as frequently as a Yangtze river dolphin in a crimplene twin-set. Surely the very idea of anyone being inadequate will be made a hate crime soon, if it's not already.

Hedgehog

Was there ever a brief flickering of shame...

Gotta agree with Trevor there. What we see here is the end product of a generation that has been told, from the moment they were toddlers, that they were special. I don't think that they are able to fathom that they don't measure up. Everything they ever did, every burp, every fart, was lauded to the stars. The schools they went to, the colleges they attended, everybody accommodated them and their illusions, because, hey, you wouldn't want to crush their self-esteem. And now what we have is the most narcissistic generation to ever walk the face of the Earth.

As my father used to say, only half in joke, "Il leur faudrait une bonne guerre..."

Fred the Fourth

Hedgehog:
It turned out that one great side-benefit of my son's taking up golf was the practice he got at failing, solo, in public. You gotta admire the moxie of a kid who can walk to the first tee at a tournament, have his name announced to the audience, and swing that driver -- AFTER the previous day's experience of that event ended with him duffing the ball into the weeds in full view of everybody.

Tim Newman

Was there ever a brief flickering of shame or humility, or even just frustration at their own inadequacy?

In my experience, these lot aren't big on shame, humility, or self-awareness. You can guarantee that they've never taken responsibility for a damned thing in their lives.

David

You can guarantee that they've never taken responsibility for a damned thing in their lives.

In case anyone wants to poke at that a little bit more.

Spiny Norman

jabrwok,

...what's the current status of Protein Wisdom? All I get is a blank screen.

I'm not sure, but on Twitter, Jeff is referring to it in the past tense. Uh-oh.

Spiny Norman

I found this:

https://twitter.com/proteinwisdom/status/737402204928147456

Apparently, the site was hacked.

jabrwok

Thanks...um...Spiny San!:-) I hope the site returns. Wasn't one of my daily reads, but I enjoyed dropping in occasionally.

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