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August 22, 2016

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Alice

Yes, relying on a man to pay the bill, every time, is proof of Ms Drayton’s emancipation and empowerment... And so the proudly feminist author “completely rejects the premise” that “I have to pay my own way.”

These people have spent a fortune on being 'educated'.

Paul

Is it really beyond the wit of man or woman to design a large stout bag, full of rocks into which these people can be placed and shaken hard and long?

I fear it's the only way to evolve the SJW above the level of the humble amoeba, but it will benefit them immeasurably.

TheTooner

Most of that fortune comes from taxes paid by other people, the contribution they pay in tuition fees is a token. (And their cost of living while at school doesn't count, if they weren't idling away those years at university they -or welfare agencies - have to pay for their housing and food anyway.)

David

These people have spent a fortune on being ‘educated’.

Not so much educated as processed. Ms Drayton is a particularly telling example of the phenomenon, a fusion of arrogance and incompetence, in that she refers to herself as a “freelance writer and activist,” a professional communicator and radical intellectual, one who regards her own tweets as educational “lectures,” such is the wisdom they contain. And yet basic grammar escapes her, even in published articles, sometimes to inadvertently comical effect.

Presumably, Ms Drayton’s $60,000-a-year education - at New York’s achingly “progressive” New School University - prioritised the mouthing of fashionable, if incoherent, opinions, rather than any proficiency or marketable skill.

Paul

How am I supposed to pursue my anthropological studies into the sexual attraction and practices of young and attractive lesbians if the badly written stories have to use non-gendered pronouns?

It's difficult enough knowing what's going on at present without the extensive use of video. Will no-one think of the pervert?

Paul

I even tried feeling m white privilege daily - I couldn't believe the number of complaints to the police.

Joan

Progressive she-person Silpa Kovvali insists that gendered pronouns are an “outdated linguistic tic” and must be abolished

Except when she gets pissed off at being laughed at and calls you a cunty bro. :-)

David

Except when she gets pissed off at being laughed at and calls you a cunty bro. :-)

Heh. Oh yes, I’d forgotten that.

#OwMyFeelings

Joan

#DaveSoBro

R. Sherman

Regarding Tiffany Drayton and her heroic struggle against "The Nefarious Patriarchy" which looks remarkably like the status quo. It's sort of like my own struggle against the objectification Mexican-American actresses by not having sex with Salma Hayek.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

Regarding Miss Fabello:

Melissa A. Fabello is a body acceptance activist, sexuality scholar, and patriarchy smasher living in Philadelphia.

Yay, another "patriarcy smasher". It is amazing that these pretentious twits have no clue how clownish they sound to anyone outside their clique.

I’ll be forthright: As a thin woman involved in body acceptance activism, I’ve had my moments when I’ve wished that conversations made more room for me and my experiences.

Allrighty then. Thin woman is oppressed by fat Wxmym of Adiposity, who are oppressed by the adipose challenged women. Next up - "How to Check the Privilege of Your Statistically Normal Height and Weight." This, of course, will be followed by the Normal Size Acceptance Movement.

I am not a they.

Good point, it is interesting that these Punchinellos want everyone to recognize their individuality by reducing everyone to a generic. This brings to mind the F. Scott Fitzgerald quote:

The test of a first rate intelligence is the ability to hold two opposed ideas in the mind at the same time, and still retain the ability to function.

Alas, I fear these unfortunates would benefit from a prolonged visit with St. Mary Bethlehem as they clearly have failed the test.

David

It’s sort of like my own struggle against the objectification of Mexican-American actresses by not having sex with Salma Hayek.

I stand in solidarity, brother. I too shall never attempt to have sex with Ms Hayek.

#DaveSoBrave

PiperPaul

"I too shall never attempt to have sex with Ms Hayek."

But should the occasion ever present itself I trust you'll contact me to stand in for you.

R. Sherman

@PiperPaul

Sorry. I live by a code:

ne inducas nos in temptationem.

Mike

“Racial justice educator” Rachel Kuo tells us how to order takeaway in a suitably agonised and intersectional manner

In 30 years I've never been to a restaurant where the owners actually wanted me to worry about "food as a tool of marginalisation and oppression". The restaurants I eat at want customers to have a good time and come back.

David

The restaurants I eat at want customers to have a good time and come back.

Well, quite. And yet the ostentatiously fretful Ms Kuo bemoans how it’s possible to eat food from other cultures “in isolation from that culture’s history and also current issues… borrowing the pieces that are enjoyable – palatable and easily digestible.” Which, it seems to me, is generally the point of a restaurant or takeaway business, and it’s why foreign cuisine is commercially viable, a livelihood of millions.

I shouldn’t imagine my local Thai restaurant’s atmosphere or balance sheet would be greatly improved by its customers collaring the nearest waiter and then publicly atoning for being agents of the “dominant culture.”

AnotherFred

This appeared on Everyday Feminism last week: in this http://everydayfeminism.com/2016/08/myths-about-everyday-feminism/

Gems include:

And if you want a bit of a behind-the-scenes look at Everyday Feminism, here’s something that you probably don’t know: We actively prioritize people with lived experience writing about issues that affect them directly – and even have an accountability checklist to make sure our contributors stay in their own lane.

That is, unlike most other sites that value good reporting over lived experience, someone who grew up middle- or upper-class isn’t going to write about classism and the impact of poverty for Everyday Feminism.

We think that’s harmful – reifying oppression and the status quo by allowing those with the most power to dictate public perception of a marginalized experience.

Good journalists need not apply.

And:

Of our six full-time and three part-time core team members:

78% are of color. Only two people who work for Everyday Feminism – myself included – are white.
Two-thirds identify as trans or gender non-conforming.
Half are somewhere along the asexual or aromantic spectrums.
Over three-quarters openly live with one or more physical, psychological, or learning disabilities.
One identifies as fat.
Everyone is queer.

It strikes me as interesting that they obsess over lived experience and authenticity, yet the staff is flagrantly unrepresentative of women, though I'm quite certain they've performed enough mental gymnastics to overcome barriers like logical consistency and cognitive dissonance.

Jen

Over three-quarters openly live with one or more physical, psychological, or learning disabilities.

#ShockedFace

AnotherFred

And another, because the folks at Everyday Feminism just can't stop giving: http://everydayfeminism.com/2016/08/lies-about-activist-violence/

The violence that marginalized people face from police for example, especially those who are Indigenous and/or Black, is never comparable to any counter-violence.

And:

Myth #2: Violence Is Only Physical

Laverne Cox said in 2014 that “when a trans woman is called a man, that is an act of violence.”

(She’s right, of course.)

. . .

When people support the conditions that create violence, they are also committing violence. They’re simply ensuring that someone else will be doing the work of murder.

David

Over three-quarters [of the Everyday Feminism staff] openly live with one or more physical, psychological, or learning disabilities.

At which point, comment seems unnecessary.

SumDumGuy

One identifies as fat.

Nearly every woman I know identifies as fat, so this one might be almost normal.

Theophrastus

"Half are somewhere along the asexual or aromantic spectrums."

What is that supposed to mean? Either you're asexual, or you're not. So how can you be on some asexual spectrum? And also identify as queer (which they all do, apparently)? If you know you're queer, you're not asexual. Or is 'asexual spectrum' some socio-jargonological term for low libido?

Henry

AnotherFred's quote from EverydayFeminism:

We actively prioritize people with lived experience blahdi blah

In one of her videos on silly feminist language, Janice Fiamengo questions whether this particular phrase is helpful, saying in a wonderfully deadpan way) "surely all experience is, in some sense 'lived'"

Wouldn't want to suggest that feminist terminology is descending into the realms of nonsense or anything...

David

Nearly every woman I know identifies as fat, so this one might be almost normal.

Ah, but this one “identifies politically as a fat woman.” Her fatness is political fatness, and therefore much more important than ordinary fatness.

SumDumGuy

Her fatness is political fatness

Gives new meaning to pork barrel politics, eh?

(Full disclosure: I've lurked long enough to know how bonkers the "writers" of EDF are; I was making a sexist joke at the expense of helpless lunatics who don't realize they are the but of every joke involving a stereotype ever told.)

Daniel Ream

Or is 'asexual spectrum' some socio-jargonological term for low libido?

Yes.

Millenials are creating an ever-proliferating number of silly terms to describe their reasons for not shagging each other.

Lurkess

Her fatness is political fatness, and therefore much more important than ordinary fatness.

This blog is a highlight of my commute home. :-)

David

This blog is a highlight of my commute home. :-)

Happy to be of service, madam.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

Of our six full-time and three part-time core team members: [&c]

I see, they are so diverse that straight, white, educated (real, not made up subjects), non-psychotic women, men (non-psychotic or otherwise) and Irish need not apply (especially the Irish). That brings us to #3:

We Censor People We created a strict comment policy for a reason – and no, it’s not because we’re an echo chamber. [rationization ensues] But that isn’t censoring. That’s us exercising our right to create a space to our liking.

Indeed, a space called an echo chamber. As GEN George Patton said: "If everyone is thinking alike, then no one is thinking."

Speaking of diversity and their stunning, yet prideful, lack of diversity of thought:

That is, unlike most other sites that value good reporting over lived experience, someone who grew up middle- or upper-class isn’t going to write about classism and the impact of poverty for Everyday Feminism.

The whole mindset of this little coterie of intellectual lightweights and their strap hangers is appalling. Biff or Muffy Whitebread join the Peace Corps and spend two years in The Gambia living with the locals, Bobby Bob Culpepper III (of the Tennessee Culpeppers) takes his agricultural degree and puts it to use helping black farmers in the Mississippi Delta, but they are less qualified to report on class and poverty than some latte sipper who never left New York ?

That whole article is a colossal display of total failure of introspection and/or irony.

4. We’re Against Sex Workers Let’s start here: We have self-identified sex workers who write for us and some of them do pro-sex work activism. We 100%, without a shadow of a doubt, support the rights of sex workers to choose to work in the sex industry.

So, we are against them except when we aren't.

We also don’t believe in clickbait...Titles like “7 Ways Social Justice Language Can Become Abusive in Intimate Relationships” and “5 Reasons Why Non-Traditional Rape Narratives Are Important” are pretty damn straightforward.

Yes, pretty much the damn straightforward definition of clickbait. Speaking of clickbait:

(So if you want to help us out, click around a lot.)

I suspect 90% of their traffic is either internal, or from here.

We’re actually an independent media organization, which a lot of folks don’t know!

That means that our income comes directly from our ad revenue. We’re bootstrapped (although we don’t support the bootstrap myth). That is to say, we run solely on the resources that we generate ourselves.

Yay ! We don't believe in the "myth" that we proved is actually true.

Myth #2: Violence Is Only Physical...Laverne Cox said in 2014 that “when a trans woman is called a man, that is an act of violence.”

(She’s right, of course.)

She might not be. Let us see what the American Psychological Society thinks about that: Violence is an extreme form of aggression, such as assault, rape or murder. I'd add incoming mortar and rocket fire, but I digress. Regardless, the shrinks seem to have left "hurt feelings" out of their definition, so I guess she isn't right.

However, damn near every word these charming ladies write does confirm that each and every one, not some mere 75%, has profound psychological, and/or learning disabilities. I include a degree in gender studies as a learning disability.

Finally, I think everyone who ever orders some food item "with au jus" should be thrashed with a buggywhip.

David

That whole article is a colossal display of total failure of introspection and/or irony.

It reminded me of when the Guardian unveiled its young trainee journalists, allegedly a snapshot of British youth, who would explore and debate “the issues that matter” to “generation Y.” Issues such as “urban foraging” and “canoeing to work.”

Geezer

Dear Mr. Muldoon,

I have noticed that some people insert a space between the end of a sentence and a final question mark or exclamation mark. Have the rules of punctuation changed, or is that simply a current fashion?

Farnsworth M Muldoon

It reminded me of when the Guardian unveiled its young trainee journalists...

From your link above, one of your links: Chief among Ms Buist’s journalistic offerings is an extended critique of drop-crotch meggings.

Drop-crotch meggings. Who knew, (let alone that it was a crisis) ? This is why this has to be the internet's place most full of wonders.

TomJ

As an aside: I learnt last week the General Patton, quoted above, competed in the first Olympic Modern Pentathlon at the Stockholm games. He finished 5 and might have won overall had 3 of his 20 shots not been registered. He claimed his missing shots went through previous holes, not implausible given he was firing a .38 which masked much bigger holes than the .22s most of his competitors were using, but the officials couldn't find evidence to support his claim. He pushed himself so hgard in the swim he had to he fished from the pool and though he was first back into the stadium in the run he had again pusdhed himself too hard, slowing to a walk by thgthge last 50m, getting overtaken by a couple of competitors and collapsing unconscious in front of the Royal Box.

David

This is why this has to be the internet’s place most full of wonders.

And still no bloody statue.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

And still no bloody statue.

The henchlesbians will not let us get close enough for a good likeness to be made. Would you settle for an obelisk ?

Henry

Would you settle for an obelisk ?

I think an obelisk would be very appropriate
!

R. Sherman

The problem with a statue is it eventually winds up buried in the sand causing romantic poets some centuries hence to torment literature students with musings about the impermanence of civilization.

Better play it safe and send a case of some dry Bordeaux.

Geezer

I think an obelisk would be very appropriate
!

Current fashion it is
!

Hal

And still no bloody statue.

I hear the design issues are still being worked out, partly to ensure a steady flow of blood from or over the statue, and partly to figure out what part of the statue to pump the blood from.

Hedgehog

I suspect 90% of their traffic is either internal, or from here.

Heh. We are enabling the question-begging and reinforcing the lack of introspection that are prevalent in the pages of EDF.

I include a degree in gender studies as a learning disability.

Yes, but it's an acquired disability, so it has more value. People who just happen to be born with a learning disability really ought to check their privilege.

Finally, I think everyone who ever orders some food item "with au jus" should be thrashed with a buggywhip.

Enthusiastically seconded.

Tim Newman

I have noticed that some people insert a space between the end of a sentence and a final question mark or exclamation mark. Have the rules of punctuation changed, or is that simply a current fashion?

That happens automatically if you are writing with settings set to French. Lord knows why.

David

French...? Dear God.

Farnsworth M. Muldoon

I have noticed that some people insert a space between the end of a sentence and a final question mark or exclamation mark.

Mr. Geezer,

First, is that a UK Geezer, or US Geezer ? I rather like the UK version better as I don't have to denounce myself for being ageist. Unless of course the geezer was a geezer.

The reason I do it is because some website comment sections, like this one, use a monospace typeface for composing, yet display in a proportional typeface. The problem with the latter is that the letter and character spacing often sucks, and a space at the end of a sentence before an exclamation or question mark is a) more typographically pleasing because, b) it is easier to read.

I cannot say why French setting would do it other than, well, they are French.

David

Right, it’s hammock time. I’ll leave you with some jigginess.

Darleen

None of us fit neatly or entirely into a traditional gender binary

Like all terms used by the SJW's this is another slight-of-hand phrase that can be trotted out either to increase the numbers of the non-gender-conforming (are you a woman who wears slacks to dinner? You're one of us! See how big a portion of the population we are!) or to shame those who dare stray from the dogma (are you a woman who dares to oppose a trans woman in your locker room just because she has a penis? Cast off your binary brainwashing!).

This deliberate shredding of language - where no definition is fixed - is Orwell on meth.

Trevor

... some jigginess.

My, that rather came out of left field.

Kevin

In another article from Tiffanie she bewails the fact that "For college-educated black women, the shortage of suitable black men is quickly becoming a reproductive rights issue, with many of these women opting out of motherhood all-together after finding their options in the dating market far less than desirable."

I wonder what is limiting her options?

Jimmy

RE Tiffanie: Reproductive RIGHTS issue? That's some scary stuff, actually. These people genuinely worry me.

PiperPaul

"shortage of suitable black men = reproductive rights issue"

Okaayyy...

Is the translation to this actually, "I can't seem to find suitable black men who will put up with my bullshit", perhaps? Just maybe?

ACTOldFart

"Half are somewhere along the asexual or aromantic spectrums."

What is that supposed to mean?

It means that half of them couldn't get laid for quids.

Farnsworth M. Muldoon

It means that half of them couldn't get laid for quids.

OTOH, it could mean half are somewhere along the spectrum of virgins to hookers, the latter not being know for romance, but do get laid for the old spondelix.

John D

Grauniad in a nutshell.

https://twitter.com/Ribenageorgina/status/767633359468134400

David

I wonder what is limiting her options?

Blimey. Ms Drayton says she’s “a career woman,” albeit one who piously freeloads on dates, on account of her black womanliness, which somehow makes her entitled to other people’s earnings, now and forever. Apparently, we’re expected to believe that she is a victim of egregious racism by white people and hence her chippy personality and numerous resentments, although she fails to provide even one example to support her argument. Despite this omission, she claims to be “shackled to the tortures of unending racism.” Racism is invoked again, several times, along with “white supremacy,” as the cause of her failure to find a suitable mate, on grounds that serious criminal behaviour, which black men indulge in in vastly disparate numbers, tends to result in a spell behind bars. And she says this while implicitly rejecting all non-black men as even potential suitors.

As I said, high maintenance.

Joan

Racism is invoked again, several times, along with “white supremacy,” as the cause of her failure to find a suitable mate, on grounds that serious criminal behaviour, which black men indulge in in vastly disparate numbers, tends to result in a spell behind bars.

So she'd be happy to date a crack-smoking mugger with a record as long as your arm?

Tim Newman

Reproductive RIGHTS issue? That's some scary stuff, actually.

Oh hell, there is even something called "reproductive justice" according to some mob called the Lady Parts Justice League. They are:

a rapid response creative production team, made up of comedy writers, comedians and activists, on call 24/7 to make videos, artistic memes and create national actions that respond instantly to the breaking news surrounding reproductive rights issues. We will within minutes, or hours, blast the perpetrators dispensing damaging information about abortion, crisis pregnancy centers, birth control as well as taking down those who shame and stigmatize women for wanting, having and demanding safe and healthy sex lives on their own terms.

LPJL infuses comedy into reproductive rights spaces while also dropping some knowledge and activism into our pop culture and social lives inspiring folks who have not been active in the feminist and reproductive rights movements to get on board.

They will soon be holding an awards ceremony which:

will put the LPJ spin on the musical performances, dance numbers, and heartfelt tributes you see at all your favorite awards shows. All of that and amazing celebrity presenters will make for a hilarious evening putting THE BIGGEST SEXIST assholes on blast!

And who will we be honoring, you ask? Well obvi, those who have shown outstanding achievements in sexism or anti-choice, anti-women douchebaggery!

Is there anything more excruciating to read than middle-aged women writing like teenagers?

Incidentally, one of the things which I find rather disturbing about the abortion debate in the USA is the way feminists and assorted lefties seem to promote it and even celebrate it. My view - which I think is mainstream in the UK - is that abortion is a necessary evil: we'd rather it was not necessary, but sometimes it is and so let's just acknowledge it is unpleasant and make it as dignified a compromise as possible.

Tim Newman

Is the translation to this actually, "I can't seem to find suitable black men who will put up with my bullshit", perhaps? Just maybe?

The other issue, which if spoken out loud would send women like this into a meltdown, is the really high-end alpha black males (such as Denzil Washington) often date white women.

David

So she’d be happy to date a crack-smoking mugger with a record as long as your arm?

Yes, carjackers, crack dealers, rapists, felons of any kind. That would seem to be the logic. Though I use the term loosely.

David

Incidentally, one of the things which I find rather disturbing about the abortion debate in the USA is the way feminists and assorted lefties seem to promote it and even celebrate it.

In such circles, it can, and often does, lead to a competitive callousness.

Patrick Brown

Farnsworth (quoting Everyday Feminism)

That means that our income comes directly from our ad revenue. We’re bootstrapped (although we don’t support the bootstrap myth). That is to say, we run solely on the resources that we generate ourselves.

Yay ! We don't believe in the "myth" that we proved is actually true.

I think what she means is "we pay our own way (even though we believe we shouldn't have to)".

As for everybody being "queer", women on the social justice left are all claiming that these days, probably because once you've excluded all the straight white cis men, straight white cis women are bottom of the progressive stack and you need something a bit more to get your victim cred. It's just like in the 70s you didn't have to be a lesbian to call yourself a lesbian, you just needed to not fuck men. Although I do wonder why straight girls calling themselves queer doesn't count as "cultural appropriation". Everything else does.

Ted S., Catskill Mtns., NY, USA

In another article from Tiffanie she bewails the fact that "For college-educated black women, the shortage of suitable black men is quickly becoming a reproductive rights issue, [...]"

And what people like Tiffanie (I think she's alone now) are doing to academia has nothing to do with the relative paucity of men at college, no doubt.

David

Tiffanie (I think she’s alone now)

I see what you did there.

Patrick Brown

Also, the "shortage of suitable black men" seems to refer to women's reluctance to pair off with a man of lower status than themselves. It's come up before, in the Guardian for example, with no racial component. Which indicates that there are still women who go to university to meet a husband with prospects rather than to gain an education that improves their own.

It's amazing how rubbish feminism is at actually challenging traditional gender norms. Female expectations now, after however many generations or waves of it, seem to be exactly the same as they always were - I must find a man to provide for me and protect me, I must be held to lower standards of responsibility, and men must watch their mouths when there are ladies present. It used to be because women were regarded as weak. Now it's because we oppressed them for centuries by regarding them as weak. But the end result is exactly the same.

Tim Newman

Female expectations now, after however many generations or waves of it, seem to be exactly the same as they always were - I must find a man to provide for me and protect me, I must be held to lower standards of responsibility, and men must watch their mouths when there are ladies present.

It's quite funny to take out a modern feminist. She'll half-heartedly insist the bill gets split (as her sistas have told her) and she'll spout boilerplate feminist mantra in the context of politics and the workplace...but if you pick her up in an M-Series BMW and take her back to a large, modern apartment in which you live alone their eyes widen like those of every other woman who sees a man as a walking cash-machine. They also don't seem to mind the fella paying for high-end hotels and first class train travel.

David

I still think we should have a thread devoted to catastrophically bad dating experiences.

Tim Newman

In such circles, it can, and often does, lead to a competitive callousness.

Or the BBC running a story on two women live Tweeting an abortion.

R. Sherman

In such circles, it can, and often does, lead to a competitive callousness.

It's always nice to revisit some of your greatest hits. The problem is, one winds up continuing to click on links and the next thing you know, you're pondering how lesbians can remain ideologically pure--ahem--in the face of dildos and strap-ons. Another morning shot to hell.

Watcher in the dark

"Yeah, I said it: I absolutely refuse to even touch my wallet while on a date with a man." So said the ever-lovely Tiffanie.

Go on, say what I was thinking: is this a euphemism?

David

one winds up continuing to click on links and the next thing you know, you’re pondering how lesbians can remain ideologically pure--ahem--in the face of dildos and strap-ons.

No refunds, credit note only.

SumDumGuy

I still think we should have a thread devoted to catastrophically bad dating experiences.

I once dated a girl for 3 weeks without realizing we were more than friends.

David

I once dated a girl for 3 weeks without realizing we were more than friends.

Er, so… you were what, related? Sort of, “Wait a minute, isn’t your dad my mother’s brother?”

Hey, I’m not judging.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

From Fay in another thread,

So much navel gazing...oy vey. Could she be any more insignificant or boring.

and from Patrick Brown upstream,

...and you need something a bit more to get your victim cred.

These, I think, sums up rather well everything with this lot is "violence". Being and old fashioned shitlord, when someone shows up (or is brought to me) to me complaining that some sort of violence has been visited upon them, I look for bleeding, bruises, broken bones, and body parts, not hurt feelings.

However, that person has just experienced something, that unpleasant as it may have been, was certainly not boring for a while, has definitely become a genuine victim, and gets a ton (metric) of attention.

Thus what better way to make your life unboring and get victim cred than by being a "victim of violence", equating being called "she" instead of "they" with being on the unfunny end of an 120mm mortar.

...in the face of dildos and strap-ons.

I think maybe, "in the presence of" might have been a better choice of words...

“Wait a minute, isn’t your dad my mother’s brother?”

R. Sherman

I think maybe, "in the presence of" might have been a better choice of words...

Indeed. Of course, neither you nor I can fully appreciate the existential angst radical lesbians experience when confronted with the mere representation of the male member. They're like the denizens of Plato's cave fretting about shadows. Imagine what would happen if they ever saw the real McCoy.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

Of course, neither you nor I can fully appreciate the existential angst radical lesbians experience when confronted with the mere representation of the male member.

Of course, as it seems in their minds that is anything longer than it is wide, the angst must be nigh unbearable.

David

I just want it noted, for the record, that I wasn’t the one who started this discussion of all things dildoid.

R. Sherman

Of course, as it seems in their minds that is anything longer than it is wide, the angst must be nigh unbearable.

Which brings us back to the obelisk discussion upthread.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

Which brings us back to the obelisk discussion upthread.

Quite, one would hope that it was a triggering object. That raises (excuse the inadvertent pun) the question of whether at the recent MU disturbances, Francis Quad was extremely triggering.

R. Sherman

Re: The Quad

Don't forget the bloody columns at the other end of Eighth Street. That five block stretch of road approaches the ideal "Platonic Phallus."

I just want it noted, for the record, that I wasn’t the one who started this discussion of all things dildoid.

Which leads to the question, "What is the proper plural of 'dildo?'" Is it "dildos" or "dildoes?" Isn't Dildos a Greek island in the Aegean which was constantly at war with Lesbos during the Mycenaean?

Dom

Dildi. It's Latin. Dildo, Dildi, Dildarum.

PiperPaul

"Isn't Dildos a Greek island"


Dildo is a town in Newfoundland. Come By Chance is about an hour away from Dildo.

Farnsworth M. Muldoon

"What is the proper plural of 'dildo?'"

It is actually derived from Latin, dildo being the singular dative of dildus so the dative pulral would be dildis, unless one went to the root (steady there) which would be dildus, dildi.

On the other hand, dildos is the plural of the accusative case, which, as we all know, is used with motion towards something, as opposed to the dative, which is used with the recipient of an action.

Regardless, I believe it is a Greek "loan word" derived from the Isle of Dildos which was constantly in and out of war with Lesbos.

Hedgehog

So she'd be happy to date a crack-smoking mugger with a record as long as your arm?

As long as he pays for everything. Because equality.

but if you pick her up in an M-Series BMW and take her back to a large, modern apartment in which you live alone their eyes widen like those of every other woman who sees a man as a walking cash-machine.

True dat. Which (the world not being fair and all) means that those in possession of said BMWs tend to spend their filthy lucre on (and with) women who will at least make a show of gratitude rather than being resentful. Which results in feminists being left out in the cold, as it were, and thus only further feeding their resentment. Which is then fulsomely put on display in the pages of Everyday Feminism.

Not that I would know anything about the above. My taste in cars runs to the Italian.

AC1

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3754538/Sydney-s-Lentil-vegan-restaurant-faces-closure-customers-advantage-pay-want-philosophy.html

“completely rejects the premise” that “I have to pay my own way.”

R. Sherman

Dildo, Newfoundland.

Farnsworth M. Muldoon

Room for two at the thoughtcrime gulag, please.

Transgenderism ‘Not Supported By Scientific Evidence’. 144 pages, over 20 are notes, it reads quickly.

Some of the most widely held views about sexual orientation, such as the “born that way” hypothesis, simply are not supported by science. The literature in this area does describe a small ensemble of biological differences between non-heterosexuals and heterosexuals, but those biological differences are not sufficient to predict sexual orientation, the ultimate test of any scientific finding. The strongest statement that science offers to explain sexual orientation is that some biological factors appear, to an unknown extent, to predispose some individuals to a non-heterosexual orientation...

We read popular reports about plans for medical and surgical interventions for many prepubescent children, some as young as six, and other therapeutic approaches undertaken for children as young as two. We suggest that no one can determine the gender identity of a two-year-old.

Dr. McHugh was the head shrink at Johns Hopkins for over 20 years and heavily involved in their transgender surgery program until their longitudinal studies showed that the procedures did nothing to improve mental health outcomes for the patients and he was then instrumental in closing the program. He is not a nobody in this arena.

We anticipate that this report may elicit spirited responses, and we welcome them.

The first part is rather an understatement, the latter they may end up reconsidering.

Geezer

... is that a UK Geezer, or US Geezer ? ... Unless of course the geezer was a geezer.

I wrote Mr. Muldoon, not Mr Muldoon, which is a punctuational dog-whistle that I'm a US version. This Geezer has lived past three-score-and-ten, has a grey beard, and is a grandfather. Are there other requirements for geezerhood?

Whether adding a space before ! or ? makes it easier to read is in the eye of the beholder. I'll stick with convention.

Fred the Fourth

Whatever kind of support / defense system McHugh has, I want a piece of. It must be magnificent.

Farnsworth M. Muldoon

I wrote Mr. Muldoon, not Mr Muldoon, which is a punctuational dog-whistle that I'm a US version.

Frankly, didn't notice, but the latter is not exclusive to the UK.

Are there other requirements for geezerhood?

UK slang is often different than US, "fanny" being a classic example of one not to misuse. Our host can correct me, but unless my UK counterparts and colleagues have been taking the piss of me, "geezer" is any male of the species, age immaterial.

I'll stick with convention. That is fine, the convention, however, doesn't really exist in the world of typography as an exclamation or question mark will generally be kerned (kerning is he adjustment of individual character spacing) to the left a bit so that the punctuation, particularly question marks, do not appear to be touching the terminal letter, an effect generally worse with italics.

Unfortunately, basic HTML sucks at this and the options are the punctuation slammed against the terminal letter, or one en space to the left (system dependent - it may be a bit wider or narrower).

Fred the Fourth

Farnsworth: Speaking as one who spent a big chunk of my life designing, engineering, and tuning type rendering systems (at Adobe), I'm occasionally depressed by the crudity of most popular current systems.
However, your comment reminds me of two things:
1. We had a little joke among ourselves about typography: "What with all the wonderful stuff we have now, quality digital fonts, device-independent rendering, fast computers, what do you suppose the dominant print form will be in ten years?"
"Ten-point monospace Courier."
2. Don Knuth, computer guru and designer of TeX, published a book "3:16", which is a survey of the Bible via the sampling technique of selecting the 3:16 verse from every book. What makes it on-topic here is the artwork accompanying each verse's discussion, produced by various calligraphers spending the summer at Adobe. (We used to refer to 3:16 as Knuth's "What I Did On My Summer Vacation" book.) Fascinating stuff, if that's the kind of stuff one is fascinated by.

Farnsworth M. Muldoon

...I'm occasionally depressed by the crudity of most popular current systems.

My main malfunction is that, for reasons that are unimportant right now and at one time having had to set type by hand, and love good typography. You guys at Adobe got it right - all the different weights of a given typeface, ligatures, swash caps, numbers that descend below the baseline, infinite adjustment of each character, you name it.

Microsoft, OTOH, not so much. When using Powerpoint because the letter spacing is so seemingly random and unadjustable, I often ended up doing titles in Illustrator, then dumping them into Photoshop and turning them into JPGs because Illustrator files couldn't be imported.

Courier on computers - don't get me started, I get that it was a transition and maybe it rendered better on early printers, but even a 9 pin dot matrix could do a passable Palatino without closing the bowl on the capital P.

Fascinating stuff, if that's the kind of stuff one is fascinated by.

That does indeed sound fascinating - I still have several type sample books lying around, people will pick them up, leaf through, and ask why, I tell them to me it is really no different than a book of fine paintings. That is when they usually put it down and back slowly away.

David Gillies

Once again it strikes me that in their monomania, faddishness, 'unorthodox' socialisation, division of the world into in and out groups, and intemperate reactions to criticism, the more radical feminists represent nothing more than the female version of extreme nerdishness. Like trainspotters or obsessive comic book fans.

Spiny Norman

Farnsworth,

I still have several 1980s Letraset catalogs, somewhere packed away. The "book of fine paintings" analogy is not wrong. ;-)

Fred the Fourth

McHugh: We read popular reports about plans for medical and surgical interventions for many prepubescent children, some as young as six, and other therapeutic approaches undertaken for children as young as two. We suggest that no one can determine the gender identity of a two-year-old.
If I were a betting man, I'd bet that the intersection of (1) folks adamantly opposed to male newborn circumcision, and (2) folks supporting the right of parents to subject their pre-pubescent kids to chemical and/or surgical gender alteration treatments, is better than 90%.

Fred the Fourth

Farnsworth: "You guys at Adobe got it right "
Coming from a real typesetter, that's quite satisfying. We did try damn hard.
(During the time when Microsoft was, any day now, about to wipe out Adobe Type-1 with their TrueType, a MSFT VP was quoted saying "We seriously underestimated how hard" it was to do high quality digital type. MSFT's fallback strategy was to drop the price on TT fonts to about $1 each. In the mass market, that worked.)

David

Speaking of academia and matters interracial:

Any individual who speaks up for viewpoint diversity risks being attacked for being a conservative, which is often taken to be a form of racism.

And,

Public university hosts blacks-only student retreat – to promote inclusion.

And,

The State University of New York (SUNY) at Binghamton is now offering a course called “#StopWhitePeople2K16” as part of routine training for residential assistants.

Because pathologising random people based on their melanin level is progress.

Ted S., Catskill Mtns., NY, USA

1. We had a little joke among ourselves about typography: "What with all the wonderful stuff we have now, quality digital fonts, device-independent rendering, fast computers, what do you suppose the dominant print form will be in ten years?"
"Ten-point monospace Courier."

Not Comic Sans?

(I'm on a Linux box, so I don't have these fonts right now.)

Ed Snack

What could be worse than courier (a fine font with a great pedigree in the old style computer industry !), it could all be Arial...

R. Sherman

Next up, our panel discusses "Fraktur versus Schwabacher: Progress or Fad?" And we take your calls on this episode of All Things Typographic, sponsored by Morty's Office Supplies, your one stop shop in Benkelmann, Nebraska for all your stationary needs.

TomJ

Er, so… you were what, related? Sort of, “Wait a minute, isn’t your dad my mother’s brother?”

That is, it seems, a real enough risk in Icelandic society that technology has had to ride to the rescue: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-24304415

David

That is, it seems, a real enough risk in Icelandic society that technology has had to ride to the rescue

Heh.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

Fred,

Coming from a real typesetter... I don't think I'd call myself real as I wasn't doing it professionally, but part of my aforementioned weird academic career, though I did work a bit for an offset printer where I had to deal with optically set type. I was still disappointed with computer type till I learned about PostScript and the other miraculous Adobe stuff.

Public university hosts blacks-only student retreat – to promote inclusion.

Videos and pictures of the retreat posted on Facebook show black students sharing stories, performing skits together, and even taking a trip to Wild Water Adventure Park, a park with water attractions near the central California campus.

WTF does going to a water park have to do with "adjusting to campus life", and getting involved in "the campus community" ? Other than daycare.

“With this proactive approach, the goal was to provide experiences and activities to facilitate a smooth social and academic integration of African-American students into the campus community.”

Integration by segregation, OK. How about we do it like the olden days, and just assign freshmen students randomly to dorm rooms, and make them all take core courses, so that everybody has to integrate whether they like it or not ? A barracks would work too, give the Resident Advisor the same powers and authority as a Drill Sergeant.

Next up, our panel discusses "Fraktur versus Schwabacher: Progress or Fad?"

Hey, it was either typography, or go back to dildos.

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