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November 16, 2016

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Min

You see, in modern academia, you mustn’t be allowed to discuss censorship and intolerance in modern academia.

The first rule of fight club...

bilbaoboy

And they think Trump is dangerous?

Andy

30 burly chaps? That's a little sexist and exclusionary don't you think?
why were the women and trans people not allowed to risk their precious necks if it got violent?
Oh wait...I think I`m seeing a pattern here,burly white men are the scum of the earth until there`s some violence to be done then they`re the go to guys, right?
These people need to start fighting their own battles and stop hiding behind the white men who have gifted them the freedoms to behave like arseholes while attacking those very same white men.

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Hailing Frequencies

In Star Trek isn't it always the bad guys who try to jam communications?

dearieme

in order to repel, as Shapiro puts it, “a 5’9” Jewish guy.”

Why "Jewish". Is that meant to imply that as well as being only 5'9" he's also weedy and weak? Perhaps even cowardly? That sounds rather anti-semitic to me. Mr Shapiro should reflect on his words.

R. Sherman

For private universities, such behavior is legally permissible, I suppose. For change it's going to have to be parents of potential students and alumni who do the "dirty" work. See, e.g. Mizzou's enrollment decline and loss of endowment contributions.

jabrwok

burly white men are the scum of the earth until there`s some violence to be done then they`re the go to guys, right?

For it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Chuck him out, the brute!"
But it's "Saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot;
An' it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' anything you please;
An' Tommy ain't a bloomin' fool -- you bet that Tommy sees!

David

The post-Skype relocated Shapiro / Sommers lecture can be viewed here.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

Mr Shapiro should reflect on his words.

Mr. Shapiro, being an orthodox Jew, was likely mocking them.

Hopp Singg

Woman and minority hardest hit.

David

Heh.

Deborah

Universities have no reason to put an end to this nonsense. Aside from being ideological fellow travelers/minions the thug students are walking dollar signs. Turn off the faucet of government guaranteed student loans and you solve the problem. However, as it stands there is no monetary incentive for universities to expel any of their golden geese.

I do wonder though, what might happen if the students ever turned their irrational ire on university staff, would they still cleave to the money fount?

R. Sherman

@Deborah

You are correct, of course, but it's worth remembering that the student loan scam ensnares parents as much, if not more than their children. Financial aid packages normally include a "family contribution," which for middle class families is not doable without the "helpful" parental government loan. Parents need to refuse to sign off on these things and guide their kids to better choices. Unfortunately, too many parents fall into the trap of believing they're bad parents if they don't mortgage the farm to send Junior to Commie U.

Heather

I think that the proposals that say colleges need some sort of skin in the game plan (if the student defaults on the loans the university is on the hook) make sense. I bet tuition would go down and some administrators (hopefully those in charge of diversity-like tripe) would get fired.

http://www.the-american-interest.com/2016/06/10/colleges-need-skin-in-the-game/

Sporkatus

If protesters according to the imagination of DePaul faculty do not appear, then "protesters" will be conjured in the form of security. Reality must conform to the delusion, dammit.

Quint&Jessel, Sea of Azof, Bly, UK

Still so very glad I attended uni back in the bad old days, when anyone came to campus and could speak, and we analyzed poems, plays, etc., by the words that were in them.

R. Sherman

@Quint

So true. The glorious days when we smoked in graduate seminars and argued like old married couples before repairing to the nearest watering hole for more cigarettes, cheap beer, laughter and friendship.

Hal

Ah, but think of the speaker's fees!!!

Shiggz

Is this what it's like for non progs in uk? Is this just the American version ie in your face and louder version?

R. Sherman

Meanwhile, on the higher education front in the UK . . . It seems there's still hope.

Quint&Jessel, Sea of Azof, Bly, UK

I see on that Bum link that Chelsea's being groomed to run for Congress...AFAIK, she's a complete dip, void of personality and charisma, so no doubt she'll do well.

ac1

Mein cough-inaudable
You can't debate here zis iz a uniwersity!

WTP

For just the price of a substantial mortgage payment, you can sponsor a millennial...
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RGvrmltfMrA

Spiny Norman

R. Sherman,

I voted Polly.... and... she's winning! Woot!

DMS

Thank you for this Shapiro & Sommers link David.

dicentra

First, Trump wins.
Then Piers Morgan makes total and complete sense.

Can SMOD be far behind?

David

Thank you for this Shapiro & Sommers link David.

Happy to oblige. See also Monday’s post for plenty more.

David

First, Trump wins. Then Piers Morgan makes total and complete sense.

The fabric of reality is really taking a hit.

And what ungodly hour is it where you are, di?

dicentra

Just after midnight. I'll slouch into bed in a tick.

David

Sweet dreams, madam.

David

Thank you for this Shapiro & Sommers link David.

See also this, recorded last night. And note Shapiro’s comment about the leftist protestors’ evident privilege when it comes to disruption and impunity. Do we think that a conservative protest against a leftist speaker, with protestors acting in the same manner, using the same tactics, would be accommodated in a similar fashion? And without consequences?

Rules are for the little people, you see.

Darleen

{{{delurking for a moment ... it's but a wee 9:36 pm on 11/17 in Kyoto}}}

David

it’s but a wee 9:36 pm on 11/17 in Kyoto

I hear voices from the future.

Sporkatus

I hear the people singing. Something about a song of angry men. Also voices from the future, I suppose.

PiperPaul

I'd much prefer hearing the fat lady warming up for our Clown Quarter friends.

David

A footnote to the DePaul and UW-Madison events:

At UW-Madison, student protesters stood up every few minutes and began screaming “SAFETY” and “SHAME” to disrupt. They’d been planning it for days; they even had a secret Facebook group titled “F*** white supremacy: interrupting Ben Shapiro.” Why didn’t security clear them out, even when they marched down to the front of the stage and attempted to block me physically from the audience? Because the administration had told university police not to remove protesters – and that if they had to remove the protesters, they should shut down the entire event.

That would mean that 20 protesters could simply stick around, and by doing so, prevent 450 people from hearing a lecture on free speech. As UW student Jordan Zadra says, “This mentality gives protesters a license to shut down any speech they don’t like.” This is the rioters’ veto. And it only exists thanks to the cowardice of administrators.

Cowardice, yes, and of course complicity.

PiperPaul

"Cowardice, yes, and of course complicity"

Jeeege, if you'd've added 'willfully ignorant' and 'avaricious' I'da thunk you were referring to the media.

David

A white female journalist, Vicki McKenna, was covering the UW-Madison event. Here’s how she was treated by the leftist protestors. And again, note the behaviour of campus security.

Liz

A white female journalist, Vicki McKenna, was covering the UW-Madison event. Here’s how she was treated by the leftist protestors.

Time to sue the university.

David

Time to sue the university.

We are, I think, approaching the point of total inversion. They aggress her, deliberately and repeatedly, acting as a pack and obviously delighting in physical intimidation - apparently because she’s white (and outnumbered) – while denouncing her, based on nothing, as a racist, a “white supremacist.”

That kind of mental dysfunction - dysfunction rewarded and reinforced by so-called educators - cannot be fixed.

I sneeze in threes

Off topic sorry but WTF.

"I stopped for a moment, paralysed because I had no idea how to categorise them politically."

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/nov/17/trump-victory-stuggling-with-enemy-within-manhattan

Quint&Jessel, Sea of Azof, Bly, UK

I'd never be able to record these things, because I'd start swinging my cane.

Hal

Advantages in post student hiring . . . .

David

I’d never be able to record these things, because I’d start swinging my cane.

And remember, that’s why it’s called Angry Studies. The object is to turn credulous mediocrities into belligerent racist morons. The creatures you’ve been watching, these self-styled activists, the ones mouthing random slogans while indulging in a spot of sadism – they’re the intended end product.

champ

"she's a complete dip, void of personality and charisma"

Takes after her mother...

Darleen

Just an anecdote

One of my friends (a Republican) in SoCal - you know, a deep blue state where the democrats have a stranglehold on everything - had a neighbor track him down on his morning walk and told him that he should not engage in any political discussion with him or his wife or "there will be blood spilled and then I'll call 911."

Darleen

Then there's Hillary supporters tracking down and harassing/threatening Electoral College voters

David

Just an anecdote

I can’t help thinking that it’s a bad idea to regard one’s voting preferences as an ersatz religion. Or as seen in the Vicki McKenna video, a cult.

Hal

. . . SoCal - you know, a deep blue state where the democrats have a stranglehold on everything . . .

Barring, of course, the complete lack of a state named "socal", and in California, except for the areas that keep getting colored red.

Spiny Norman

When there are no Republicans on the ballot for state-wide office, I'd call that a "stranglehold".

Hal

When there are no Republicans on the ballot for state-wide office, I'd call that a "stranglehold".

Ehn???

. . . If you mean the Senate race, the Republicans outnumbered the Democrats:

Thirty-four candidates filed to run to replace Boxer, including seven Democrats, 12 Republicans, and 15 third-party candidates.

'Course, judging from the results, if any of the Republicans had any quality to 'em, then they could have moved on to the election.

Spiny Norman

That was the primary ballot. There were no Republicans in the November 8 ballot for state-wide office. All state-wide offices had a choice between two Democrats in the General Election.

Spiny Norman

I take it you're a fan of the idiotic "jungle primary", then?

Quint&Jessel, Sea of Azof, Bly, UK

Darleen, the neighbor accosted your friend on his walk to tell him to not talk politics? That is so...inverted.

Hal

That was the primary ballot.

Right. Particularly the state-wide primary that whittled the thirty-four or so down to two.

Therefore it was up to each of those candidates to convince the voters of California to vote for 'em, or fail to, with the voters making their own free choice, and then the winner(s) of each stage of election moved on to the next stage.

Just like those other bits in the election, particularly the bits where people then started screaming about Trump winning.

Hal

I take it you're a fan of the idiotic "jungle primary", then?

I can’t help thinking that it’s a bad idea to regard one’s voting preferences as an ersatz religion.

David

Here’s the charming creature who organised the UW-Madison fit of authoritarian psychodrama and overtly racist bullying – sorry, the ‘protest’.

Apparently, Mr Cody Fearing is a “community outreach coordinator at Live Free Student Wellness and Recovery,” and has studied “community and environmental sociology.” On his Facebook page, Mr Fearing claims that Ben Shapiro is “perpetuating white supremacy on a national level” simply by criticising the “methods” – i.e., the thuggery and racism - of Black Lives Matter, and that therefore “the mere presence of this event on this campus is coercive to and violent for students that cultivate safe spaces.” Mr Fearing declines repeated invitations to actually debate Mr Shapiro at the event’s customary Q&A, and instead prefers shutting down discussion he doesn’t like, supposedly as an act of radical “resilience.”

If you can stomach the dogmatic self-flattery, there’s plenty more.

Tim Newman

A white female journalist, Vicki McKenna, was covering the UW-Madison event. Here’s how she was treated by the leftist protestors. And again, note the behaviour of campus security.

If they're not careful, some people are going to get the race war they so dearly crave, and boy will the body count be high.

Mike

Mr Fearing declines repeated invitations to actually debate Mr Shapiro at the event’s customary Q&A, and instead prefers shutting down discussion he doesn’t like, supposedly as an act of radical “resilience.”

Censorship is resilience now? And up is down?

David

Censorship is resilience now? And up is down?

And indulging in racist mob thuggery - against a woman, and while knowing full well you can always get away with it, even if someone films you - is simply proof of your victimhood.

You’ll soon get the hang of it.

And remember, this isn’t some random contortion of logic. It’s what they’ve been taught.

Hedgehog

@Hal: I'm not sure I understand your beef with Darleen and Spiny Norman's characterization of California as a deep-blue state where the Democrats have a stranglehold on everything. Whether there are no Republicans in office because they're all dunderheads and the voters don't vote for them on that account, or whether the result obtains because the voters are all left-wing loons who have internalized the progressive Gleichschaltung and thus only vote for Pol Pot wannabes, really makes no difference. The end result, regardless of the reason, is that California is a deep-blue state. So are you just picking on Darleen's statement to be disagreeable?

Hal

I'm not sure I understand . . . .

Clearly.

Following the election, I saw the headlines announcing someone's ideas of California going independent, and then didn't bother to read further because of all the well documented inherent social geography.

Whether there are no Republicans in office. . .

. . . except, of course, for the Republicans who are in office in the State of California . . .

. . . because they're all dunderheads and the voters don't vote for them on that account . . .

Or?. . . . you didn't finish the statement. Instead you made your wild leap off onto a different tangent. I'll finish it for you: Whether there are no Republicans in office because they're all dunderheads and the voters don't vote for them on that account, or whether the voters demonstrated their own free choice to vote for Democrats who were seen as the better candidates than the Republicans . . . .

Oh, and for that wild leap: . . . or whether the result obtains because the voters are all right-wing twits who fantasize of a Taliban oriented gestalt and thus only vote for David Duke wannabes, or are all left-wing loons who have internalized the progressive Gleichschaltung and thus only vote for Pol Pot wannabes . . .

Yes, being centered and thus in balance is actually rather more realistic, isn't it.

So. The electoral college was created for very sound reasons and is rather likely to remain, and of the electoral college votes, California has tended to go blue more often than not in the last several elections, in the electoral college. Full stop and all that, for the electoral college.

For the state, as we're noticing, what remains is that the coastline of the state of California tends to be left wing more than right, the interior of the state of California past the coastline tends to be more right wing than left, and the overall reality of the state of California is that the state overall would be shades of purple . . . .

I can’t help thinking that it’s a bad idea to regard one’s voting preferences as an ersatz religion.

That.

Hedgehog

Well, I guess I still don't get it. Obviously the voters voted for Democrats because they see them as better candidates than the Republicans. The fact that there are vast areas on the map that are colored in red doesn't mean much given that most of the population lives in areas that happen to be colored blue. Of California's 17.9 million registered voters, 44.8% are registered as Democrats and only 27.3% are registered as Republicans. Of the 23.3% of independent voters, 41% lean Democratic and only 32% lean Republican, so that the independent voters mostly vote Democratic as well. All of this results in the fact that California has no statewide offices that are held by Republicans. That makes it a deep-blue state, which is the statement that Darleen made with which you took issue a few posts back. My own voting preferences and whether or not they are an ersatz religion for me has absolutely nothing to do with this, so I can only conclude that you are, as my previous post speculated, trying to be disagreeable for the sake of it. Which also means that I will not entertain any further thoughts of communicating about this.

Darleen

Hal,

California has become a deep-blue state - whether or not Democrats were "better" than the GOP candidates is unknown, however once the Ds gained sufficient power, they have gamed the state to keep it that way.

We are becoming a banana republic, for want of a better term. California's weather and natural beauty makes it an attractive place for the uber rich, but it has been shoving the middle class out for years and I see no change unless something shakes it up.

Jerry Brown has had a war against suburbia since the 70s and it goes glove-in-hand with other privileged CEOs in Silicon valley or the upper financial echelons in banking/financial institutions clustered in Frisco & El-Lay. The small business owner - retail, farmer, etc. - are ok to serve them, but not to live near them. Brown wants them clustered in "high density" areas, deprived of independent transportation and quietly thankful for the goodies he will give them in return. Like a high-speed choo-choo from Bakersfield to Fresno (that they are forced to pay for but will never ride)

The NIMBYism in Frisco and Silicon Valley is producing a little backlash...but from the bohemian/hip/grunge types -- its gentrification v grime-as-cool and the middle manager family types should just go away and die.

Well, many of them ARE going away - they are leaving to other states where they aren't tied up in knots looking at outrageous housing prices or regulations designed to keep them from establishing new businesses.

If you look over the propositions that won/loss this election you still see the same left-wing hubris -- pass a law making it as hard as possible for legal gun owners to obtain ammunition on one hand, and let more violent state prisoners out of prison cuz compassion on the other.

California will be a state of very rich and very poor. That is not a healthy mix.

Jonathan

California will be a state of very rich and very poor. That is not a healthy mix.

California becoming more like part of a third-world country such as, say, Mexico? How could this possibly be happening in the US?

It's a mystery all right.

Jonathan

Police at Pitt University take a slightly more robust attitude to leftist protesters:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDTcmCVTuMY

Hal

California has become a deep-blue state . . .

Whereas, as we've noted, the reality remains otherwise.

. . . and let more violent state prisoners out of prison cuz compassion on the other.

And also the actuality is quite different out here in reality.

California Proposition 62, Repeal of the Death Penalty (2016)
California Proposition 62, the Repeal of the Death Penalty Initiative, was on the November 8, 2016, ballot in California as an initiated state statute. It was defeated.

So. We, all of us, are quite aware that California is not a "deep blue state".

Fantasies that claim California to be something it is not are the exact same thing as screaming that Trump can not be allowed to have won the election.

Trump won the election, California is several shades of purple, and I can’t help thinking that it’s a bad idea to regard one’s voting preferences as an ersatz religion.

Given the rather documented reality, why claim otherwise?

David

Police at Pitt University take a slightly more robust attitude to leftist protesters

“The whole world is watching,” they cry. As if they’re expecting sympathy. Heh.

Sort-of-Mad Max

"“The whole world is watching,” they cry. As if they’re expecting sympathy. Heh. "

This part of the world is running out of popcorn to enjoy with the watching.

Waiting for this headline: "Popcorn? Pudding cups? Strange shortages crop up after election, and experts have no clues as to why"

Joan

“The whole world is watching,” they cry. As if they’re expecting sympathy.

Only university can make people that stupid.

David

Only university can make people that stupid.

It does suggest a level of narcissism and obliviousness that’s quite extraordinary. And heavily concentrated on campuses.

Darleen

Hal

So prop 62 passed

but so did 57 (which adds to both AB109 & Prop 47) property & violent crime is up 21% since the latter has passed but the bleeding leftists in gated communities don't care.

Yes, the much despised Inland Empire and Central Valley folk may be purple or even red, but the rich/poor people of Frisco, El-Lay and the increasingly leftist San Diego want us to just shutup and go away.

Smelt are more important than food. Jerry Brown as AG sued counties to stop single-family homes (he wants the hoi polloi warehoused in high density apartments).

CA is run out of Malibu cocktail parties and San Francisco dinner parties. As royal blue as it gets.

Jonathan

Mark Steyn has an excellent piece about all this nonsense up at his place. Here's a gem:

Just a thought, but, if you keep insisting that half your fellow citizens are haters, maybe you're the hater.

and another:

Strangely enough, all these people swaggering about insouciantly demonizing millions of their fellow citizens as haters and Satanists profess to feeling "scared" and "unsafe" from the terror all around.

David

Just a thought, but, if you keep insisting that half your fellow citizens are haters, maybe you’re the hater.

When the ‘progressive’ left abandons the working class, as it does, as it must, the resulting dissonance necessitates an awful lot of projection.

Hal

So prop 62 passed . . .

Yes.

Yes, the much despised Inland Empire and Central Valley folk may be purple or even red

Well, if you put quotes on that "despised", absolutely shades of purple and red, cause, y'know, it's California . . .

. . . Malibu . . . San Francisco . . . . . . . being parts of the quite shades of purple California . . . Blue scattered here and there, red scattered here and there . . . .

Oh, speaking of utterly San Francisco variety events that occur in San Francisco, last Wednesday I went to see that notorious left wing demagogue George Shultz as he gave a talk and signed copies of his latest book.---I read a bit of my copy before the talk, I'll get to the rest after finishing up the last twenty-seven something stories in my current reading queue---.

The talk took place at that well known San Francisco center of left wing open capitulation to [um, oh, pick whatever the current right wing straw man], The Marine's Memorial Association and Foundation. As a further sign of only in San Francisco, Shultz was interviewed by some retired US Marine general who did something in Kuwait and Iraq a bit back.

It was an interesting talk.

And a little before the election, also in San Francisco---because that's the sort of thing that utterly and absolutely left wing San Francisco does---, some guy named Dunford also gave a talk there, and that also was an interesting talk, and very entertaining---Who are you voting for?.

But then these are the events that get staged in San Francisco and therefore are utterly and absolutely totally left wing, aren't they.

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