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March 07, 2017

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jones

I should never have gone to medical school...

What a waste.

Joan

The site also notes that employers seek out prospects that have "[a]n understanding of differences of gender, sexuality, race, culture, and social class," and possess an "[i]nsight into the connections among different forms of oppression."

Er, what?

David

Er, what?

Oh, you ladies with your patriarchal ways. That Clown Quarter Amulet™ is a “really great tool set.” It’s intersectional and everything. Because the first thing they’ll ask in that job interview is, “Yes, but do you have a degree in self-satisfied feminist question-begging?” Followed by, “Do you at least have a Tumblr? Well, do you, punk?!”

Theophrastus

Given the cost of such 'degrees' -- and their uselessness to the holder -- why exactly are they proliferating?

sH2

why exactly are they proliferating?

Government loans using taxpayers' money.

Alice

why exactly are they proliferating?

'Nearly half of students think their college loans will be forgiven, new study finds'

http://www.theblaze.com/news/2017/02/27/nearly-half-of-students-think-their-college-loans-will-be-forgiven-new-study-finds/

David

Given the cost of such ‘degrees’ -- and their uselessness to the holder -- why exactly are they proliferating?

Well, aside from the factors above, there’s also the non-trivial detail that teenagers are generally unworldly, exploitable and, as it were, easy to seduce. It’s flattering to be told that you’ll be a “change agent,” an enlightened radical, fighting dark forces and remaking of the world. And you’re much less likely to go broke milking the vanities of the young than the teenagers being milked. As it were.

Killer Marmot

A degree in Women’s and Gender Studies prepares you for almost anything.

Sure does. After graduation, degree holders quickly learn to handle requests for cheeseburgers with fries, cheeseburgers with fries and gravy, cheeseburgers with coleslaw, cheeseburgers with potato salad, and the ever-tricky just straight cheeseburgers, which the cashier hates cause there is no cheeseburger-without-a-side on the menu. There is nothing these adaptable young scholars are not prepared for.

Killer Marmot

Serious question...

When people with such degrees do find professional careers (as opposed to entry-level positions in the food services industry), what kind of career is most common?

Frank

Killer Marmot:

you forgot the all important potato salad with chips option.

David

what kind of career is most common?

The young lady quoted above expects to be employed by “a non-profit organisation.” Others may end up peddling the same claptrap to other gullible souls back in the Clown Quarter. Some may even hope to write for such lofty publications as Everyday Feminism.

David

Er, what?

I can’t help thinking it might be easier, and much cheaper, to just get a big, ugly tattoo that says, “I MAKE BAD DECISIONS.”

Sam

just get a big, ugly tattoo that says, “I MAKE BAD DECISIONS.”

Or 'I REQUIRE CONTINUAL SUPERVISION BY AN ADULT'.

Tom

Well, aside from the factors above, there’s also the non-trivial detail that teenagers are generally unworldly, exploitable and, as it were, easy to seduce. It’s flattering to be told that you’ll be a “change agent,” an enlightened radical, fighting dark forces and remaking of the world.

I blame Young Adult Fiction myself, this is the end result of the Harry Potter/Divergent/Hunger Gamesisation of fiction. Why learn how to be an engineer, or God help us learn an actual trade, when you can save the world?

Astute observers will note that the rot began before the proliferation of the 'lone teen saves the world' genre but it's hard to believe that YA fiction hasn't helped roll the ball a little faster. I'd bet a large sum of money that the bookshelves, or Kindles, of almost all Clown Quarter students have some, or all of the series I mentioned on them.

Matt

"I'd bet a large sum of money that the bookshelves, or Kindles, of almost all Clown Quarter students have some, or all of the series I mentioned on them."

The problem with this claim is that the genre is popular enough that nearly everyone in that age cohort who reads at all is likely to have read at least some of at least one of those sort of series.

Ray

"I do have skills, I do I do I do."

What's your carer's number, dear?

Tom

he problem with this claim is that the genre is popular enough that nearly everyone in that age cohort who reads at all is likely to have read at least some of at least one of those sort of series.

You're right of course, and I'm not about to fight to the death to defend a quickly observed comment. There are always multiple causes for any effect you wish to name but I think there is more than a little of the "I'm savin' the world Ma!" about the people in the Clown Quarter (can't stop using that phrase, it is perfectly apposite) and perhaps this genre has had more affect on them than on engineering students who may have read the same series.

R.Sherman

I fear the jobs which exist in the private sphere, i.e. non-government, non-academe, non-nonprofit, are those which constitute Danegeld of a sort, established to prevent a lot bothersome demonstrations by SJWs, which demonstrations would otherwise interfere with good, old-fashioned profit making.

CJ Nerd

OT, but Australian traffic lights are easing up on their oppression of women:
Female pedestrian signals ignite debate in Australia

Farnsworth M Muldoon

The site also notes that employers seek out prospects that have "[a]n understanding of differences of gender, sexuality, race, culture, and social class," and possess an "[i]nsight into the connections among different forms of oppression."

There is some truth in that. When I was in the position of having to hire people I would look out for those who "...possess an "[i]nsight into the connections among different forms of oppression..." because invariably they would be trouble makers constantly whining and filing complaints about trivial crap and imaginary bias issues.

David

OT, but Australian traffic lights are easing up on their oppression of women

We’ve been here before, I think. Still, it may provide some inkling of how quite a few gender studies graduates would like to use their time and other people’s money.

David

because invariably they would be trouble makers constantly whining and filing complaints about trivial crap and imaginary bias issues.

Well, quite. As with the bewildered and resentful Andria XX, it doesn’t seem to occur to the students that their chosen use of time and money, their Big Life Decision, might have unhelpful connotations and give signals to potential employers of an unintended kind, more than almost any other degree they might have chosen.

PiperPaul

"you forgot the all important potato salad with chips option."

Wait - are we talking British "chips" or American "chips" here? I think for the British kind you need at least a Master's in gender/cultural studies.

David

for the British kind you need at least a Master’s in gender/cultural studies.

I think you’re all being beastly towards people who work in fast food restaurants and who, in my experience, are more likely to be civil.

Surreptitious Evil

OT, but Australian traffic lights are easing up on their oppression of women

Nope, just an expatriate Scotman having found an excuse that will pass the Thought Police.

Mike

When I went to college, there was no gender studies major. I wasted my time earning a computer science degree.

Sporkatus

A degree in Women’s and Gender Studies prepares you for almost anything.

Remind me of the rules on this one - it's Graun or alleged news sources to qualify for the Classic Sentences tag, right? The line in question coming from a college website is probably disqualified then - a pity.

David

It’s Graun or alleged news sources to qualify for the Classic Sentences tag, right?

Up ‘til now. Though I’m tempted to widen the scope to include gems from further afield.

Daniel Ream

I blame Young Adult Fiction myself, this is the end result of the Harry Potter/Divergent/Hunger Gamesisation of fiction.

Permit me to present an alternate thesis.

"Lone teen saves the world" has always been the default mode for young adult fantasy fiction. Susan Cooper's The Dark is Rising, Lloyd Alexander's Prydain series, Madeleine L'Engle's Wrinkle in Time, even Narnia and the Lord of the Rings can be considered to fall into this category.

Fantasy has just become massively mainstreamed, but part of that is publishing just churning out endless repetitions of the last big surprise bestseller and part of it is that it's tapping in to a cultural current that's already there. For instance (spoiler alert), everyone thinks that The Hunger Games is about a lone teen bravely rebelling against a corrupt society and bringing it down despite the fact that Katniss never does anything of the kind. People are reading into these books what they already want to see there.

Now, there's some feedback and the publishing industry will trend towards what the audience is purchasing, but I think publishing is chasing this trend, not setting it.

Sporkatus

Fundamentally, I think, there's a failure to separate jobs which function in the generation of wealth, jobs which enhance those jobs, and jobs which are mere parasitization. I've seen praised the transition away from production jobs (the most visible wealth generators) and towards the service industries, which are the latter two categories - with no regard to whether this shift is hurting wealth generation as a whole and merely enabled by technology driving generation up enough to cope - sometimes. No, best that any *dirty* producing jobs be carried out by foreigners.

There's a reason for this, and that is that they don't believe in wealth generation. Therefore, with State as Mother, one job's as good as any other and as long as the fixed pie isn't preyed on overmuch by anyone naughty, everybody can do whatever they want. Except you, perhaps. You're not educationally refined - it's bin collecting for you. Mother requires it.

By the sheer act of acquiring their pointless degree, they have become a Brahmin, and every class contains the best abilities and qualities of the class below (if any). It's a matter of breeding, you see. In this vein, I seem to recall a recent individual saying he was a better speechwriter than his speechwriters and so on...

Sporkatus

@Daniel Ream: It's also worth note that YAFF and similar fields are doing as well as they are at least partly because they still permit something of heroism - or a near facsimile. With adult fantasy, science fiction, and whole fields of more proper literature under a crushing heel of PC, it's fashionable to have grim tales with no real heroes. That is not, to put it bluntly, what the public at large want. See the writing of any of the Human Wave sci-fi authors trying to reverse this trend for more in-depth discussion.

The lesson of Star Wars in '77 has been misread. "Youth like simple tales of heroism!" Well, quite, but so do lots of people, and you don't have to make such tales for youth alone.

Hal

I blame Young Adult Fiction myself, this is the end result of the Harry Potter . . . . of fiction.

Permit me to present an alternate thesis.

Bit of an echo . . .

The Harry Potter series is definitely far from the show up and all are winners genre . . . HP outlines a rather messy hands on war where people get maimed, people get killed, people utterly work their butts off and then only some some of those succeed---again, some get killed---and even of that final one on one duel, that duel occurs only after an entire community of long trained and long suffering experts work as a team, and where the only reason Our Hero and The Heavy have The Duel is a matter that got set up from the beginning and had to be puzzled out through the books---again, with a bunch of heavy lifters doing major work---and sometimes getting killed . . .

Tim Newman

When people with such degrees do find professional careers (as opposed to entry-level positions in the food services industry), what kind of career is most common?

Government.

Daniel Ream

it's fashionable to have grim tales with no real heroes.

Again, I have a different interpretation. While SF has definitely vanished up its own PC anus - witness the Sad Puppies imbroglio - the problem in adult fantasy is the constant tailchasing of the market leader. For decades it was Tolkien and D&D (D&D tie-in novels are consistent bestsellers). The current fad of grim tales with no real heroes, and to a broader extent thinly veiled historical romans a clef generally, is entirely due to the popularity of Game of Thrones.

And given sales figures, that's exactly what adult fantasy readers want.

HP outlines a rather messy hands on war where people get maimed, people get killed, people utterly work their butts off and then only some some of those succeed

Well, eventually. But HP's meteoric rise to popularity is due to Harry himself being a cipher, an everyman with no real personality that any child can project themselves into. Harry never actually does much of anything except get pulled along by events. As a friend of mine once put it, Harry isn't the Campbellian Hero; he's the Cinderella.

Lionel Ebb

Oh dear... I hope this http://bit.ly/2mBl0Re doesn't discourage any bright young things from signing up. I fear it might...

dicentra

Harry isn't the Campbellian Hero; he's the Cinderella.

His story checks boxes in both the Hero's Journey and Cinderella, although the latter is mostly contained in his being kept in a closet until he receives The Calling.

After that, Harry follows the classic Hero's Journey, including the Old Man Mentor, plenty of trials and sacrifices and Union with the Ideal Woman at the end.

dicentra

Harry never actually does much of anything except get pulled along by events.

He makes LOTS of hard decisions that cost him dearly. There's a case to be made that HP falls in the Inkling tradition.

I used to moderate Harry Potter for Grownups, and we had mad fun delving into the thematic elements. We even sponsored conferences where papers were presented.

HP is a deeply archetypal story filled with rich symbolism and compelling character arcs. The series' popularity owes entirely to its depth, not to "hype," which, hyped but vapid entertainment rapidly plummets into joke status. HP became popular by word of mouth.

OK, that's enough about that.

R.Sherman

"you forgot the all important potato salad with chips option."

Point of order: Aren't British "chips" made from potatoes? Why would one want two potato sides? What the hell is wrong with coleslaw?

Seriously, I'm starting to worry about you people. Get a grip!

Sam Duncan

“There is a Santa Claus, Mummy. There really, really is.”

Hal

The Harry Potter series is definitely far from the show up and all are winners genre

And a followup thought---quite in contrast to the all are equally intelligent lot, Hogwarts and its ilk is, effectively, a trade school, not even a Uni . . . and of that sort of trade school, the underlying practice is, basically, We don't care if you have a magical background and ancestry or do not have one; if you can do magic, and if you work very hard, we can train you. If you can not do magic, there is no magical piece of paper that will let us be able to train you or for you to be considered a magician merely by declaration . . . .

Bucke Verteth

I do have a college degree that is meaningful.” I do, I do, I do.

...reminds me of

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2X9E9n6GHC8

Jeff Guinn

Every time I read the line -- it must by now be an MSM macro -- "More women are getting college degrees", this question rockets through my head, but is somehow never answered:

Yes, yes. But in what?
pst314

"A degree in Women’s and Gender Studies prepares you for almost anything."

Yes indeed:
Thuggish commissar in government.
Thuggish commissar in academia.
Thuggish commissar in an NGO.
Thuggish commissar in a large corporation.
Thuggish commissar in a small company.

Chester Draws

Point of order: Aren't British "chips" made from potatoes? Why would one want two potato sides? What the hell is wrong with coleslaw?

Seriously, I'm starting to worry about you people. Get a grip!

The British are capable of serving cottage pie and chips. So meat with mashed potatoes on top, with fried potatoes. Because most people find potatoes delicious (calorie-police and assorted food nutcases aside).

The US find this barbaric. Right up to the time KFC gives you potato and gravy and chips in your order. So exactly the same thing.

Thomas Fuller

Australian traffic lights are easing up on their oppression of women

Hardly. The symbol is sexist in the extreme, presuming that wymyn wear such stereotypical and submissive garments as skirts. Or is the figure depicted transgender? If so it sidelines, nay demonises, those who are birthed as 'females' but identify as males. Disgustingly regressive.

And what about people like me? When can I expect to see a crossing-symbol depicting what I now identify as, which is a garden sprinkler?

Sporkatus

Point of order, Chester: the US KFC menu does not include any combo of both mashed potatoes and potato wedges at once, much less chips (aka french fries). In fact, the US KFC menu does not include chips/french fries of any kind, other than those wedges more akin to a sliced baked potato.

Therefore, there is no fried-and-other potato combination from KFC unless a la carte.

Wendy's offers several fried-substance-on-baked-potato sides as well as ordinary chips/french fries, but not in combination with one another. The US tendency not to offer two potato sides at once in fast food seems to bear out.

David

the US KFC menu does not include any combo of both mashed potatoes and potato wedges at once, much less chips (aka french fries)

Ooh, it’s all kicking off.

R.Sherman

The value of a Gender Studies degree revealed*.

Compliments Harry Potter discussion upthread.

R.Sherman

The British are capable of serving...

And that's why in 1066 William was called "The Bastard." He left the cookbook in France.

Sporkatus

Ooh, it’s all kicking off.

I've been wanting to start a good food fight in the comments, even if this wasn't quite what I'd thought of.

To admit a weakness, even as a Person of USA I had to look up the menu online to be sure, as it's been a while since the local KFC closed up.

Daniel Ream

HP is a deeply archetypal story filled with rich symbolism and compelling character arcs. The series' popularity owes entirely to its depth

By comparison with children's fantasy fiction over the last hundred years, I'd say it does not fare well at all. But I've learned there's little point in analyzing works that are fan favorites; there's an emotional investment there that provokes an extreme reaction.

Hogwarts and its ilk is, effectively, a trade school, not even a Uni

It's a British boarding school that divides its students by class. As in social class, not what "house" they belong to. The early books are a nice little mashup of British boarding school fiction and British children's fantasy. When Rowling tries to elevate the books to "serious" epic fantasy her inexperience as a writer shows, as does the limitations of the world she's created.

The Sanity Inspector

This wouldn't be so bad, if the snowflakes didn't bully the colleges into requiring that real students waste time and money on these courses as well.

I liked what David Mamet said about these types:

What is Liberal Education? It has become indoctrination in aggressive Identity Politics, a schooling, that is, in the practice of indictment, assault, exclusion, and contempt, all of which contradicts the statement of Universal Humanity upon which all its education "ideology" rests.

But here was my question: On leaving the university, what would these Young Stalinists do? Who would pay them to bravely proclaim, "That's not funny?" In what society could they live?

They were and are children of privilege... the privilege taught, learned, and imbibed, in a "liberal arts education" is the privilege to indict. These children have, in the main, never worked, learned to obey, command, construct, amend, or complete - to actually contribute to the society. They have learned to be shrill, and that their indictment, on the economy, on sex, on race, on the environment, though based on no experience other than hearsay, must trump any discourse, let alone opposition. It occurred to me that I had seen this behavior elsewhere, where it was called "a developmental difficulty."

-- David Mamet, The Secret Knowledge, 2011

Microbillionaire
"Lone teen saves the world" has always been the default mode for young adult fantasy fiction. Susan Cooper's The Dark is Rising, Lloyd Alexander's Prydain series, Madeleine L'Engle's Wrinkle in Time, even Narnia and the Lord of the Rings can be considered to fall into this category.

Objection the first: The Lord of the Rings starts as Frodo turns thirty-three, and most of the action takes place several years later.

There used to be an objection the second questioning this supposed YAFF grouping, but it and the subsequent objections have been mysteriously stricken from the record and replaced with: "Man, you must be smoking some good stuff, can I get the name of your supplier?" ;-)

Angus

I think Tom is onto something with his young adult fiction theory. In my formative years I read way too many of my parents Ludlum novels, to this day I have refrained from getting a tattoo due to the fear that it would become an identifiable mark that the KGB could use to catch me.

Sporkatus

I think Tom is onto something with his young adult fiction theory. In my formative years...

I, on the other hand suffered from early childhood Stratemeyer classics exposure, with the result that I treat friends badly and stick my nose into the business of others like the Hardy Boys and am deeply fascinated by wild and impractical swiss-army-knife technology of a Tom Swift Jr. stage.

My local library has a lot to answer for.

Spiny Norman

Lionel,

Oh dear...

[ clicks link cautiously ]

What have we here?

"There is no doubt at all that Emma’s breasts have put back the cause of women’s rights to the late 13th Century," said Dr Keithly Liverbird head of the university’s popular Phallocentricity in Contemporary Poetry and Football Song course, "or possibly to the age of pre-Socratic Athens. Thank Christ you couldn’t actually see her nipples, or the world would’ve ended!"...

...Her colleague, Professor Clytemnestra Brassière-en-Feu, however, disagrees. She told the Mercury: 'In revealing her breasts to the world Emma has sounded a defiant call-to-arms that will be taken up by every woman straining under the oppressive yolk of suffocating patriarchy. I only wish she’d been given the opportunity to dispense with her clothing altogether (clothes being merely another means through which men seek to assert control over women’s bodies) and was able to spread her lady garden of liberation all over the pages of that vile organ in a glorious, gynecological battle cry of liberation! But obviously the men wouldn’t let her get her muff out, would they? Oppressive, cowardly bastards!"

[ snorts loudly ]

Oh, come on now! I no longer have any doubt that the Dalston Mercury is pure satire.

(Although... as a shamelessly heterosexual male, seeing lovely Miss Watson in the altogether would not offend me.)

Spiny Norman

Micro,

Objection the first: The Lord of the Rings starts as Frodo turns thirty-three, and most of the action takes place several years later.

I think I see what they mean by it, though. As a little person, Frodo could be seen as a metaphor for the "lone teen saves the world".

(For the record, I've read LOTR at least 16 times since 1972, and have devoured all the "backstory" material that Christopher Tolkien has published.)

Farnsworth M. Muldoon

Moving away from children's books and back to the issue of academic absurdities and gender, What if Trump and The Failed Candidate had swapped genders asks ..."Maria Guadalupe, an associate professor of economics and political science at INSEAD [some sort of alleged business school]."

To do this she "reached out" (as no one does something as mundane as "contacting") one "...Joe Salvatore (a hipster who looks exactly as one would think he does), a Steinhardt clinical associate professor of educational theatre who specializes in ethnodrama..." at the formerly reputable NYU. I rather like that he is a "clinical" associate professor, because clinical sounds all sciencey and therefore implies some (actually absent) academic rigor.

This team of intellectual colossi had actors dress up as Miss bizzaro Trump and Mr. bizarro The Twice Failed Candidate, and then speak carefully selected lines from the debates. Upon presenting the resulting mess to a "...standing-room-only crowd, which appeared mostly drawn from academic circles...", they were surprised to find that they liked lady bizzaro Trump more.

This allegedly proved something, something, something about gender, not just that The Twice Failed Candidate was a lousy candidate.

We heard a lot of “now I understand how this happened”—meaning how Trump won the election. People got upset. There was a guy two rows in front of me who was literally holding his head in his hands, and the person with him was rubbing his back.

I guess it also demonstrated that reality and leftists are antipodal.

Dis

With a presumed average lifespan of around 120 years, and a generally juvenile approach to life being an apparent Hobbit trait, the 33 year-old Frodo IS a youngster by Hobbit standards...!

The only worthwhile tertiary course where "gender studies" is taught is where one comes out either a biologist or a medical practitioner of some kind...

PiperPaul

Well, Jordan Peterson is a clinical psychologist...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ABa4RdNPxU

"A few weeks ago, Dr. Oren Amitay, who has been defending me in online discussions hosted by the Ontario Psychological Association, invited me to address his psychology class (to which other students were invited). We discussed freedom of speech, ideological possession, unconscious bias and the Implicit Association test, and other issues germane to psychology and the modern world."

Squires

...you’ll be a “change agent,”...

Is that what they're calling them now?

Why learn how to be an engineer, or God help us learn an actual trade, when you can save the world?

For his second birthday I got my nephew an early edition copy of Have Space Suit Will Travel.

jabrwok

I guess it also demonstrated that reality and leftists are antipodal.

Or that leftists pay more attention to the messenger than the message. Victimhood Poker dictate their entire worldview.

Fred the Fourth

At the start of "Fellowship", Frodo has just got through his "difficult tweens" and has become a barely mature adult at age 33.
Thus proving that JRRT was in possession of a time machine. How else could he have foreseen the world of 2017?

Hal

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juliaeryn

Microbillionaire: perhaps as 33 years of age is when hobbits are considered to have 'come of age', thus could be considered the equivalent of our '18'

Also, I agree with Daniel Rea, the whole 'young person saving the world' is not a new phenomenon. Check the bible!

Besides, who wants to read fiction about lesser struggles? 'Young person experiences mild breakthrough with local council after months of tedium and compromise' or 'a young person's journey to earn a free loyalty card coffee only to give said away coffee to a deserving transient'. I'll keep my HP thanks :)

Jenny R.

The "studies" people oftentimes wind up in my department (English -- or what used to be English, before the "studies" got ahold of it...I'm old enough to remember lecture courses given by older profs who were not convinced of critical theory and questioned Saussure and Derrida; that would appear quaint and archaic by today's standards).
They can't read critically; they can't write; they can't think -- about all they are good at is studiously demanding that students memorize (not learn, memorize the form) how to cite articles using MLA with extreme precision *which is a waste of time as the bloody things change every so often and not every department demands the same style* and bullying and butt kissing, which garners them advancements.
And so goes the humanities.

PS. If you read LoTR, Frodo isn't exactly the only heroic character (Tolkien weaved many different forms of heroism throughout his book and none of them are without flaw), nor is he 100% heroic (he comes off as a feeble prat quite often)...and it is the character of Sam, his trusty and unpretentious batsman, who really gets 'er done (perhaps a hold over of JRR's war time experiences). I find his works quite enjoyable on that level...certainly a vast improvement over Rowling (ok for the 8 yo. set to cut their teeth on, but truly derivative and ultimately boring) -- although I can see why the "studies" folks love her: when you can't really read for comprehension because your education is so lacking in context and even basic grammar function, then you aren't going to like anything weightier than HP (or any science beyond Bill Nye).

Carlo M.

When people with such degrees do find professional careers (as opposed to >entry-level positions in the food services industry), what kind of career is most common?

They hold protests and otherwise raise a stink about perceived race/sex/albeism and demand the offending entity hire such graduates as "diversity officers" and such, once inside a company they grow like cancer until it dies, like twitter is in the process of doing. Haven't heard of any of them starting careers suing for being mis-gendered in New York City, but I'm just waiting for it.

Chester Draws

No fries with KFC in USA? Well I be buggered!

IMO KFC is the greatest fast food on the planet. It can be eaten hot or cold, whereas most fast food is disgusting if not eaten immediately. It comes with greenery in the coleslaw, because I need some greenery with every meal or I feel unwell. And you can dunk the fries in the gravy for a double carbohydrate buzz to counteract the protein and fat of the chicken.

But now I find that in the place of its birth it is substandard. That's such a buzzkill.

Chester Draws

(before anyone argues pizza is a greater fast food, that is a category error. Pizza is merely food, as evidenced by it being served at quite flash places.)

Microbillionaire
I think I see what they mean by it, though. As a little person, Frodo could be seen as a metaphor for the "lone teen saves the world".

Okay, if you seriously want to take this tack, let me note two of my further objections:
-Frodo isn't lone. From the other hobbits to the Fellowship to Gollum, his quest is always in company. The only time he can reasonably be said to be even briefly alone is when he's captured by orcs (and Sam has to save him). Even his last small-group segment in Mordor is enabled by people like Aragorn drawing away the eye and armies of Sauron.
-Frodo doesn't save the world. He betrays the world at the last moment and takes the Ring for his own. Providence saves the world as evil ruins things for evil in the end. (Presumably the book is old enough now that this doesn't need a spoiler warning.)

Hal

'Young person experiences mild breakthrough with local council after months of tedium and compromise' or 'a young person's journey to earn a free loyalty card coffee only to give said away coffee to a deserving transient'.

Transported to a surreal landscape, a young girl kills the first person she meets and then teams up with three strangers to kill again.

Tom Cruise is a soulless recluse who lurks in the darkness and sucks the life from all who come near him. He's also in this movie about a vampire.

An eccentric nanny hired by a wealthy family subjects the children to a series of psychedelic experiences and cult-like character building exercises.

A federal agent in Chicago hampers the work of an enterprising American job creator.

Etc.

Hal

. . . and the Hobbit commentary is reminding me of a so far otherwsie unused commercial bit I thought up sometime back regarding Knees And Toes, the anti dandruff shampoo for hobbits . . .

Hal

Oh, and aside from putting in a fix for a broken tag, definitely stick to the Tolkien LOTR and Hobbit . . .

Of something claiming to be related to the latter, I did see Jackson's An Unfortunate Train Wreck to see what 48fps looks like---looked fine---and then just didn't bother with The Desolation Of Smog or The Desecration Of Smaug and finally The Battle Of The Five Accountants.

The best commentary I ran across on Jackson's version of the other is definitely by Cleolinda Jones, but no idea where that's disappeared to online...

jabrwok

I did see Jackson's An Unfortunate Train Wreck...and then just didn't bother with The Desolation Of Smog or The Desecration Of Smaug and finally The Battle Of The Five Accountants.

Never saw the original trilogy. Instead I found an edited version online which scrubbed all the Jacksonian twaddle and pared the three movies down to one, which was fairly loyal to the original story. Quite enjoyable if you can track it down. Something like "There and Back Again, a Hobbit's Tale Recut". That's what it's labelled as in my Videos folder anyway. Runs just over three hours.

Sporkatus

@Chester: I have had KFC in South Korea, some sixteen years ago. Excellent at the time, and faithful to the original recipe except for a preference for increased red pepper. So much so, that the white meat was dramatically stained under the breading.

SK has some interesting pizza options such as squid as well, of course. And yet, as of about six years ago, the art of the ordinary burger was sorely lacking, even at US brand outlets. Don't even get me started on Lotte Burger...

dicentra

before anyone argues pizza is a greater fast food

Until I can drive up to the window for take-away, it ain't fast food.

Hal

Prolly not so loose paraphrase: I have a business, and by definition, that business is required to be successful. . . Rather reminiscent of Ok, I showed up, where's my trophy?!?!?!!

DC restaurant alleges unfair competition in suit against Trump, DC hotel, and related headlines . . .

The lawsuit was filed in DC superior court by a married couple that owns Cork Wine Bar in northwest DC, located approximately 1.5 miles from the Trump hotel. They claim they can't compete with the President because he has a "big leg up" with foreign dignitaries and business leaders who want to patronize Trump's hotel to curry favor with him.

The suit alleges a "perception by many of its customers and prospective customers of the hotel ... that it would be to their advantage in their dealings with President Donald J. Trump and other agencies of the United States government if they patronized the hotel."

Ok. So given that Trump had the hotel before the election, and given that Trump then ran for POTUS, rather than the position of DC hotel owner, perhaps y'all instead should sue those customers and prospective customers of the hotel, and perhaps also sue everyone who voted for Trump . . .

Hal

And in other news of capitalism, entrepreneurship, and self reliance in action: Woman gets prison for taking over husband's meth sales

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