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April 10, 2017

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Andrew

The misery never ends with these people.

David

The misery never ends with these people.

It does suggest a strange, rather contrived mental landscape. One in which they endlessly poke about under rocks in search of some excuse for being unhappy, or pretending to be unhappy, just to impress their equally pretentious and neurotic peers.

rjmadden

structures humans put in place – capitalism, colonialism, racism, sexism, and ableism – allow some people to access the outdoors and force others home.

So when feminists have smashed capitalism black people will finally be able to go bike riding in the countryside?

David

Heh. Apparently.

Jen

*googles gay kayaking*

Tom

Imagine the shock when Em, I don't think she'd mind me calling her Em, discovers that in the third world it's exactly the opposite. Rich oppressors, white or variously colored, shun the countryside and it's only the poor, and presumably down-trodden, who get to experience its wonderfulness first hand.

It may result in catatonia.

bilbaoboy

Men (No idea if black and/or white) doing jobs like firefighting and logging manage to 'supply' 97% of labour-related deaths.

Male privilege!

David

It’s interesting that Ms Zak, an empowered feminist, is so keen to depict “marginalised people” as devoid of agency and anything approaching determination. They’re presented as merely passive and adrift on a tide of (largely hallucinated) social expectation. To the extent that fat people wanting to lose weight will apparently be forced to shun even a short jog, or a walk with the dog, for lack of a “flattering outfit,” the latest Under Armour, and plans for a kayaking excursion will be abandoned due to the brochure not having enough discernibly gay kayakers in it.

MC

three in four US young adults who participate in outdoor activities are white

So, outdoor stuff is about 10 percentage points 'whiter' than the general population then?

The horror.

MadMonzer

I'm a hyper-masculine and painfully heteronormative lumberjack and I'm okay...

Hugh

Presumably making the great outdoors accessible will involve lots of paved roads, installation of lifts, and motorised scooters. No mountain slope over ten degrees allowed!

And let's not forget about the hypersensitive allergy sufferers. National parks full of trees and vegetation are clearly discriminatory.

Burnsie

Blacks don't go camping as often as whites?

That's definitely a problem that only white liberals can solve. Where would blacks be without people like Emily?

Bloke in North Dorset

"The inhumanity of niche markets."

According to the kill joy public health fascists the whole population is, or soon will be, morbidly obese so presumably bikes for 300 pounders aren't that niche.

The thought of all that fat hanging down and needing to be kept off the road doesn't bear thinking about.

Andrew B

I clearly remember my high school days, when the fey, wispy drama kids would constantly lament the scarcity of jobs in the logging and woodland fire fighting industries. "Yes", they would say, "if I don't get accepted into F.I.T. or Parson's School of Design, it is off to the timber camps of Idaho for me!" Ah, younger days.

R. Sherman

...discernibly gay kayakers...

Well, the water does play hell with black leather chaps and the chain accessories become problematic when one is trying to do a roll.

Or, so I've heard.

David

The misery never ends with these people.

It’s also the fact that these clowns are trying to propagate a worldview of chronic victimhood, entitlement and resentment. It’s poison. According to Ms Zak, if you don’t look good in Lycra, and few do, then apparently you’re oppressed. And if you can’t afford to buy a $4000 mountain bike, then you’re oppressed too. And if your skin tone isn’t the most common skin tone among people on a nature trail, then, yes, once again, you’re being oppressed.

It occurs to me that anyone vain and credulous enough to buy into this worldview is likely to struggle finding any lasting happiness.

Angus

The woods are also full of heteronormative animals mocking her with their binary genders, their slim athletic bodies and ability to procreate WITHOUT checking their privilege! The filthy capitalistic stooges!

Blobby

Who would have thought that jobs which involve lifting heavy things are dominated by the hypermasculine. The horror!

David

Who would have thought that jobs which involve lifting heavy things are dominated by the hypermasculine.

See, now I’m picturing a reality show in which a dozen Gender Studies graduates attempt to survive for 30 days in the logging industry.

David

Incidentally, I was going to say, “attempt to master lumberjacking,” until I discovered that the term lumberjacking has a second, saltier meaning.

Killer Marmot

For hiking you should have proper hiking boots and poles, especially if you are plus sized. You don't want to twist an ankle on the trail. That will put you back $250 for stuff that will last you a decade or more.

Or to put it in a way that Emily Zak can relate to, it'll cost her 50 Iced Blonde Cinnamon Almond Macchiatos.

Too great of a sacrifice? Her call, really.

Tom
See, now I’m picturing a reality show in which a dozen Gender Studies graduates attempt to survive for 30 days in the logging industry.

Four Fellings and a Funeral?

David

Ba-dum tisshh.

Daniel Ream

See, now I’m picturing a reality show in which a dozen Gender Studies graduates attempt to survive for 30 days in the logging industry.

Would this do?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filthy_Rich:_Cattle_Drive

R. Sherman

The thing is, what avocational interest does not have some, or all, of the "barriers" Ms. Zak describes? She could have written the same rant about model railroading or gourmet cooking.

David

Would this do?

Sounds sufficiently trashy. I may have to investigate.

PiperPaul

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Farnsworth M Muldoon

A 2016 study shows more than three in four US young adults who participate in outdoor activities are white.

I see. According to the 2010 census, 72.4% of the US population is "white". Of course this includes the "white-Hispanics", but regardless, it is a total mystery why nearly 3/4 of the population account for slightly more than 3/4 of the population participating in outdoor activities.

The reality is more complicated. In the United States, outdoor recreation is a $646 billion industry. Open the pages of outdoor magazines, and you’ll find $150 trail running shoes, $500 tents and $4,000 mountain bikes.

OTOH, if you weren't a snobbish privileged geardo, you could go to an Army surplus store and get kitted out for less than your monthly cell phone payment.

Fitness culture overall reeks of fat-shaming, for one, which is reflected in workout clothing offerings.

Yes, because it is impossible to work out in a $5 t-shirt and $10 sweat pants (the name is a clue, Emily) one got at Wal-Mart, it is only possible in $300 FamousNameBrand ™ yoga pants.

According to a study in the American Journal of Preventative Medicine, low-income neighborhoods are four and a half times less likely to have recreation facilities like parks in some states.

Ignoring the fact that there is no such word as "preventative" and the name of the journal is the American Journal of Preventive Medicine (I am going out an a limb and guessing she never read the article, though it is available free on line), these are the same buffoons who have claimed that "poverty" in rural areas is as great as in urban, and the former tend to be near areas where one can go camp or enjoy gay kayaking.

Think of a group of women professors who went to Yosemite a few years ago. A handful of them write in Al Jazeera how park staff waved through those who were white and Latinx, but questioned all four Black professors at length.

OK, Al Jazeera, no bias there, but let us proceed:

They write:

“One of the Black professors was questioned about her college degrees, the title of her research project, and her university affiliation, and was asked to provide a faculty ID. The agents appeared incapable of imagining that a Black woman could hold a PhD and visit a research station for a scholarly event…This is heartbreaking, not least because Buffalo Soldiers, members of all-African-American regiments of the US Army, were among the nation’s first park rangers and built the first marked trail at Yosemite. Today only one percent of the park’s visitors are Black.”

Yeah, I can see this happening, some high school grad working the gate at a National Park quizzing a total stranger about a PhD thesis. Totally believable. As an aside, the 10th Cavalry had Officers of Pallor, so it wasn't an "all-African-American" regiment, unlike the later 332nd Fighter Group, so there must be something there Emily can feign shame and indignation about - just trying to help, I am.

Jen

until I discovered that the term lumberjacking has a second, saltier meaning.

*googles lumberjacking*
*regrets googling lumberjacking*

David

*regrets googling lumberjacking*

No refunds. Credit note only.

Geezer
... there is no such word as "preventative" ....
Yes, there is.
PiperPaul

"three in four US young adults who participate in outdoor activities are white"

No doubt she looked at some outdoorsy promotional material and came to this conclusion. Research!

"*googles gay kayaking*"

I'm hesitant to look that up - possibly "gay kayaking" now refers to something I can't unsee.

"heteronormative animals"

Well, you know, recent studies do indicate that 10% of mammals are LGBTQetc., so...

"lumberjacking"

Nope, not gonna look that one up either.

Are we close to passing Peak Poe's Law yet?

Lisboeta

more than three in four US young adults who participate in outdoor activities are white

Did they actually ask the rest of the population why they didn't participate? I don't go jogging, hiking, cycling, camping or fell-walking. Why? Because I'm just not that keen on the great outdoors. I'm quite happy with all the alternative activities available to me. I think Ms Zak has created a whole false premise "Without understanding what’s keeping folks home" (her own words).

R. Sherman

According to a study in the American Journal of Preventative Medicine, low-income neighborhoods are four and a half times less likely to have recreation facilities like parks in some states.

We need to figure out how to relocate the Yellowstone Caldera to downtown Detroit.

Lab Rat

...

The mind boggles.

Tom
We need to figure out how to relocate the Yellowstone Caldera to downtown Detroit.

To be honest, I can't see that as anything but an improvement.

R. Sherman

Palate cleanser supplemented with a privileged white guy.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

Yes, there is.

Only in savage parts of the world that prefer longer made up words over the originals because users think that more syllables = more erudite, e.g., "methodology" when "method" is really meant. Regardless, it is the American Journal of Preventive Medicine, which Miss Emily would have known had she actually read the article.

Geezer

Only in savage parts of the world that prefer longer made up words over the originals ....

A further discussion can be found here. I especially like this part:

The prevalence of the shorter form is seen throughout the English-speaking world, but the longer form is especially common outside North America.

David

Only in savage parts of the world

If anyone says aloom-i-num I’m going to start throwing things.

Geezer
If anyone says aloom-i-num I’m going to start throwing things.
Leave it to the Brits to turn a four-syllable word into a five-syllable word.
Ten

Leave it to the Brits to turn a four-syllable word into a five-syllable word.

Only if they insert the phantom i.

David

Speaking of Everyday Feminism and its neurotic leanings, hear Melissa roar:

Seconds later…

She spoke so rashly.

sH2

hear Melissa roar

She stood so firmly. :-)

Lab Rat

wtf is this "ableist" crap I see added more and more often to the list of -ists and -isms -phobias that deplorables such as myself seem to be by default of existing?

I'm sorry, I don't see how that is like "racist" - and even racist itself has lost all meaning.

I think I've run out of rat's asses to give the whole ridiculous lot.

R. Sherman

Thoughts on other phrasing?

How about, "Sit in the corner, affect a pensive expression and shut up?"

David

She stood so firmly. :-)

And note the use of your truth, as opposed to… well, the other kind.

David

Also, this.

Sam Duncan

“It’s interesting that Ms Zak, an empowered feminist, is so keen to depict “marginalised people” as devoid of agency and anything approaching determination. They’re presented as merely passive and adrift on a tide of (largely hallucinated) social expectation.”

So what else is new? Someday, these people will realise they are being “exploited”. By the Left.

“The thing is, what avocational interest does not have some, or all, of the "barriers" Ms. Zak describes? She could have written the same rant about model railroading or gourmet cooking.”

Well, that's just wrecked her next two articles. Pipe down. You're giving away trade secrets here.

“wtf is this "ableist" crap I see added more and more often to the list of -ists and -isms -phobias that deplorables such as myself seem to be by default of existing?

I'm sorry, I don't see how that is like "racist" - and even racist itself has lost all meaning.”

It all comes from the fallacy of positive rights. Lefties can't understand how you can have the right to do something but be unable (or even unwilling; see the original post) to excercise it fully. Therefore, if you're not actively ramming something down people's throats, you're oppressing them.

They're not very bright.

David

Someday, these people will realise they are being “exploited”. By the Left.

Quite. The mindset being peddled, relentlessly, is a recipe for alienation, pettiness and resentment. Exploitable resentment.

WTP

Leave it to the Brits to turn a four-syllable word into a five-syllable word.

Ohio preacher from many years back who was on TV quite a bit in the hey-day (hay-day?) of fundamentalist(ic) evangelism, one Ernest Angely, used to amuse me with how he could turn a one-syllable word like "Lord" into three, "In the sixth chapter of Jeremiah, The Lo-war-da says..."

And don't get me started on W...

David

I think Ms Zak has created a whole false premise

But imagine the mindset, forever poking under stones, desperate for some crumb of evidence, anything – even the rarity of reinforced bicycles for the morbidly obese - to validate this anhedonic posturing. And for those foolish enough to take the posturing seriously, as if it offered a way to a happier life, free from all this hallucinatory “oppression,” you have to wonder what happens to any residual stoicism, any sense of proportion, any self-possession. Habitually displacing responsibility for every disappointment, every shortcoming or failure, and cultivating resentment of those deemed “privileged,” who are allegedly “oppressing” you (by being thinner, or more capable, or less self-conscious, or just white), doesn’t seem like the best possible coping skill for life in general.

R. Sherman

...doesn’t seem like the best possible coping skill for life in general.

Perhaps she needs a T-shirt like the chick in here at :21 which enjoins, "Suck it up, Princess."

"Beer, tin & Poland."

Min

Habitually displacing responsibility... doesn’t seem like the best possible coping skill for life in general.

That.

David

That.

“I only got a ‘C’ on my maths test. Maybe I should have studied more.”

“Studying won’t help. It’s because of white supremacy.”

“I feel awkward and unattractive because I’m 300lbs. And my chest hurts.”

“Don’t let the patriarchy body-shame you. Fat is beautiful.”

And variations thereof. What could possibly go wrong?

Jonathan

And variations thereof. What could possibly go wrong?

Oppressed to Death! The Patriarchy claims another helpless victim:

Fat Acceptance Activist Dead from a Heart Attack at 34

Hmmm, what could have caused this random event?

Marge Swanson, a fat acceptance activist who helped pioneer the concept of thin privilege, is dead from a heart attack. She was 34 years old. Swanson championed the notion that weight and health have no inherent connection.

Oh.

“I don’t want to compare struggles, but Harriet Tubman fought a similar battle,” Swanson once told a reporter. “Women in larger bodies are seriously underrepresented among athletes and models. Oppression and discrimination are the only logical reasons why this is occurring.”

She was a true hero.

Jonathan

Evidently, the whole article is satire. I'll report to the correction booth.

Andy

“Women in larger bodies are seriously underrepresented among athletes and models. Oppression and discrimination are the only logical reasons why this is occurring.”

and that 300lb fatties can`t run or jump to save their lives which is a bit disadvantageous when the purpose of athletics is to win.

perhaps we could have weight classes for athletics in the same way boxing does, if nothing else the sight of half a dozen land whales wobbling and gasping their way through a 100 metre sprint might be good for its comedy value.

Hal

Speaking of Everyday Feminism and its neurotic leanings, hear Melissa roar:

Oh dear, she lost her glasses. Did something go wrong?

Fred the Fourth

"Women IN larger bodies"
Fascinating phrasing.

Hal

Imagine The Picnics

Apparently some others have been visiting the great indoors.

For some reason, mathematicians, physicists, actual musicians, et al, don't seem to be involved in these occurrences. Clearly there must also be some conspiracy that prevents such . . .

Sporkatus
logging, remain hyper-masculine and painfully heteronormative
This far in, and the Monty Python lumberjack jokes are left on the table? Baffled, I am.
Oh dear, she lost her glasses.
No glasses? How sight-abled and incredibly visionormative of her, not to mention eyewear culture exclusive. We should complain.

I joke, but what is the fashion and beauty-favoring popular position on glasses but exactly the kind of molehill that these sorts like to en-mountain?

Geezer

Baffled, I am.

There are Monty Python lumberjack jokes? Pray tell. (Include links.)

Watcher

“...the sight of half a dozen land whales wobbling and gasping their way through a 100 metre sprint might be good for its comedy value.”

The contest is not what you think it is; the contest is actually to test the skills of the resuscitation skills of the attending ambulance teams. And their strength in lifting a comatose patient onto a stretcher and into the ambulance.

Hopp Singg

There's an Aesop's kind of fable here, waiting to be written, about the zebra who complains that the giraffe is getting all the leaves up high.

Sporkatus
There are Monty Python lumberjack jokes?
You require a link? I thought you were so... rugged!

Somewhat related, I think the mad barber skit that led into it on the show originally is given terribly short schrift these days. "BLOOD SPURT ALFRED HITCHCOCK MURDER".

At any rate, the lumberjack in the skit has a complex and multifaceted gender identity in modern terms, that's for sure.

Sporkatus
There's an Aesop's kind of fable here, waiting to be written, about the zebra who complains that the giraffe is getting all the leaves up high.

Or an increasingly tortured Rush Hemispheres album metaphor involving trees. The oaks are much too lofty and grab up all the light, or so I'm told.

Geezer
You require a link?
If there are multiple jokes, there should be multiple links.
Dr Cromarty

The properly downtrodden masses of the industrial north of England, in the depths of a proper depression in the 20s & 30s, organised themselves into rambling groups and cycling clubs and took off into the countryside.

These pampered little shits whine about how oppressed they are at a time when there have never been more opportunities to be out enjoying nature.

They are contemptible on so many levels

PiperPaul

"Rush Hemispheres"

Was that the red vinyl one?

GarceW

She lives in Santa Fe and went to U of Montana. Not exactly a world traveler.

Lord Bob

I just want to point out, as a hiker who weighed 280 pounds this time last year, there is no serious physical activity that is easier for a fat person to get into and keep up. The cost can be as low as $0. You can do it alone with no permission required and maybe not even any contact with other humans, making it immune to prejudice. It is something all races, everywhere, have done enthusiastically since before we were Homo.

This is a long-winded way of saying that guy can eff off.

Vince N

capitalism, colonialism, racism, sexism, and ableism

Rattling off this list is a substitute for having to think.

David

Rattling off this list is a substitute for having to think.

Hence incantation. And these bizarre mental contortions haven’t been arrived at by accident, or through some random sloppiness. They’ve been taught and dutifully copied. Which is why the content of Everyday Feminism is so eerily uniform.

Fruitbat44

I'm glad, but not surprised, that I wasn't the only one to start (mentally) singing, "I'm a lumberjack . . . "

David

The misery never ends with these people.

I think Everyday Feminism starts to make a kind of sense if you think of it as a platform for needy, vain and often damaged people to repeatedly and piously displace responsibility for their lives by invoking chronic and implausible victimhood. (Such that the website’s editor, Melissa Fabello, isn’t a middle-class woman in twenty-first century America, but “a marginalised body that experiences the trauma of oppression.”) Basically, it’s a way for such people to tell each other, over and over again, why nothing they choose, whatever the consequences, is ever their own fault.

And for a certain kind of personality, you can see the appeal.

Which, from the outside, leads to a strange experience. In that, you might naïvely browse Everyday Feminism expecting to find empowered, liberated women, full of confidence and charisma, the equals of any man. But instead you’ll see a sad parade of self-absorbed inadequates and dogmatic mediocrities – all with eerily similar hang-ups and pretensions. Apparently, the Amazons Of Tomorrow™ can be emotionally crushed by any hint of disagreement, any factual correction, and will consequently be phoning in sick because they’ve pulled out their eyelashes again.

Hal

But instead you’ll see a sad parade of self-absorbed inadequates and dogmatic mediocrities – all with eerily similar hang-ups and pretensions.

F. Murray Abraham, call your agent . . .

Zionist Overlord #73

Someone should link the German version of the lumberjack song... :)

Burnsie

Rattling off this list is a substitute for having to think.”

Many of these articles do have the odor of reheated college essays.

I suspect many are. The author gets to relive her college glory days, back when she'd earn a pat on the head by hitting all the right 'concern' notes and checking off all the right 'villain' boxes.

Tim Newman

and kayaking in a discernibly gay-affirming manner

Are limp wrists a help or hindrance when kayaking? :-/

Rob

"Women in larger bodies"

Everyday Mentalism.

Dr Evil

I really, really hate it when certain people misuse the chemical bonding terminology of cis and trans. Good Lord, they'll be using paradigm and symbiosis out of context next!

Wanderschuh

http://takimag.com/article/the_unbearable_whiteness_of_ken_burns/print

The publicity machine is now gearing up for documentarian Ken Burns’s twelve-hour extravaganza, The National Parks: America’s Best Idea, which will run for six straight nights on PBS starting September 27.

This being a Ken Burns series, the predominant theme of The National Parks will be “diversity.” So, if you go camping in a national park this month, check out the diversity of your fellow visitors. You’ll likely notice tourists from all over the world, including busloads of punctual Germans and amenable Japanese. But, foreign tourists aren’t the right kind of diversity for Burns.

I’m sorry, but black people don’t like national parks. Less than one percent of visitors to Yosemite, for example, are black. National parks were largely dreamed up by Progressive descendants of New England Puritans, and they remain too spartan for most black vacationers’ tastes. Consider what it would take to lure black celebrities to a national park. If you want Michael Jordan to visit, you’d better put in a golf course. Oprah Winfrey? A spa. And Beyoncé is not going to sleep on the ground.

Thus, the online 25-minute preview video of Burns’ series gives off a whiff of self-parody, as if Burns is trying to top The Old Negro Space Program. His teaser is dominated by a black park ranger named Shelton Johnson. Mr. Johnson seems like a fine fellow, with a worthy cause of getting African Americans more interested in nature; but only in Ken Burns’s mind would he be a prime figure in the story of the national parks.

If the National Parks really are “America’s best idea,” the problem for Burns and his financial backers is that this best idea was invented by the worst sort of people.

Darleen

from Wanderschuh's link "invented by the worst sort"

The Sierra Club, which Muir founded, and the Audubon Society are struggling to connect with California’s diverse population, particularly Latinos, who polls show are among the most devoted environmentalists in the state.
I want to meet those Latinos. Because hubby & I were long time hikers (back to our respective Boy Scout & Girl Scout days) and we gave up on hiking an area of the San Gabriel Mountains - Bear Creek in Azusa Canyon, where one of the lower areas with deep pools and within 5 minutes of the road is clogged with people swimming, leaving dirty diapers, beer cans and piles of trash next to the water. Vast majority of them "Latino" from down the mountain, who don't have the first clue of how to behave in the wilderness (minimally, you take out what you bring in). Indeed, the two campsites further up the mountain we gave up on, too. The trash and noise was overwhelming.

Hal

. . . and within 5 minutes of the road is clogged with people swimming, leaving dirty diapers, beer cans and piles of trash next to the water. Vast majority of them "Latino" from down the mountain, . . .

Actually that seems to be standard for hipsters regardless, independent of the personal background or location.

Darleen

Hal,

With all due respect, Bear Creek =/= one of those "urban spaces" like Dolores Park in the Mission District of Frisco.

mikesixes

So, if you see a picture of people having fun outdoors and, instead of thinking "That looks like fun" you think "Those look like cis white people" you're being oppressed. By that standard, each of us has our own individual requirements for living free of oppression, and to avoid oppressing any of us, the rest of society must somehow develop the ability to show each of us only the images we wish to see. These people want to live in the world of The Matrix.

Hal

Bear Creek =/= one of those "urban spaces" like Dolores Park in the Mission District of Frisco.

. . . and, the hipster attitude of show up and dump stuff all over is the same, with the hipsters clearly being lowest class idiots irrelevant of other cultural background or DNA.

champ

"Only in savage parts of the world that prefer longer made up words over the originals ....'

one that drives me crazy is when people use the word "obligated" instead of "obliged"

Geezer

one that drives me crazy is when people use the word "obligated" instead of "obliged"

The folks at Merriam-Webster provide an interesting discussion about the differences:

Oblige shares some similarities with its close relative obligate, but there are also differences. Oblige derived via Middle English and Anglo-French from Latin obligare ("to bind to"), a combination of ob- ("to or toward") and ligare ("to bind"), whereas obligate descended directly from the past participle of obligare. Both oblige and obligate are frequently used in their past participle forms to express a kind of legal or moral constraint. Obligated once meant "indebted for a service or favor," but today it typically means "required to do something because the law requires it or because it is the right thing to do." Obliged is now the preferred term for the sense that Southern author Flannery O'Connor used in a 1952 letter: "I would be much obliged if you would send me six copies."

Mr Andrew D Rowe

Take care when quoting supposed news sites. The whole "Marge Swanson, a fat acceptance activist ..." news is fake. Just because something fits with your world view does not mean it should just be taken as gospel.

Adam

This SJW crap has unfortunately been infiltrating the outdoor community for a while but it has certainly picked up steam of late. Rafting has been particularly hard hit, but only over in the US as far as I can tell. A couple of articles I wrote on the subject last December. The comments are particularly illuminating as I was targeted by the SJW hate snowflake brigade.

https://pushingrubberdownhill.com/2016/12/12/have-you-taken-the-klu-klux-klan-rafting/

https://pushingrubberdownhill.com/2016/12/17/i-am-a-riverguide/

Hal

Expertise . . .

BackwardsBoy

“The barriers to outdoor recreation are very real,” says she.

We call them "doors."

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