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November 21, 2017

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Joan

And we’re not just talking out of our ass, like we’re smart as fuck, you know what I mean?

Said no smart person ever.

Sporkatus
And we’re not just talking out of our ass?

"We supplement our fartistic statements with verbal queef and relentless, aggressive dickery. And we know shit. All below the waist, all the time. Why do you think we like to say 'fuck'?"

WTP

I know I'm not the only one thinking it, but somebody's gotta post it...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYabrQrXt4A

David

As noted in the previous thread…

Why, it’s almost as if lowering standards until you’re admitting borderline morons and then pandering to their morony, and explaining away the consequences of that morony as always and forever someone else’s fault, and doing it year after year, at enormous expense, until it becomes an established culture of morony… It’s almost as if doing that has sub-optimal consequences.

Of course, it isn’t just the so-called students. Some supposedly professional educators could use a little polish too.

[+]

F**king hell.

Ian

How the hell did these people get *in* to university?

Sporkatus

How the hell did these people get *in* to university?

Paraphrasing Inspector Clouseau, "Well, very simple: all they have to do is apply."

Patrick Brown

I'm reminded of...

Black Ball

The captains of tomorrow. What a time to be alive.

Farnsworth M. Muldoon

"Well, very simple: all they have to do is apply."

Also parent's checks that don't bounce.

Baceseras

“Stop talking like we stupid up in here, man! I’m not dumb and none of these motherf**ckers up here are dumb, either,”
she added while Parham invited the group of protesters to remain for the event, though the video concludes with a crowd of protesters leaving the venue.

Grateful for their valuable contribution, dontcha know. They raise important questions.

pst314

Some supposedly professional educators could use a little polish too.

I've got just the thing for them, too.

Pogonip

🙄

And one of them could end up being my boss.

jones

"Lawyer for Faiz Siddiqui, who alleges ‘inadequate’ teaching stunted his career, says low 2:1 was ‘huge disappointment’"

Graduate in a million quid claim.

https://www.theguardian.com/education/2017/nov/21/graduate-in-1m-claim-was-badly-let-down-by-oxford-court-told

Couldn't someone just tell him to study a bit harder?

Clam

These 'students' need to experience the fear of being expelled.

MC

listen to us, listen to what we’re saying.

We listened. it was just swearing. Come back when you can construct an argument.

David

These ‘students’ need to experience the fear of being expelled.

The odds of that are negligible, sadly, which of course is the problem. By the time these vain little monsters are at the stage of disrupting other people’s meetings and screeching profanities at people, cossetting and flattery have already become defaults. I mean, if you’re so full of yourself that you’re demanding the abolition of the campus police and denouncing anyone who disagrees with you as a “white supremacist,” then you’ve almost certainly grown accustomed to being flattered and indulged by spineless poseurs who’ll bend over backwards to excuse your behaviour.

Frankly, as soon as these creatures start whining about being oppressed on campus, they should find their belongings dumped on the roadside. It would save a lot of time and aggravation, and nothing of value would be lost.

Jonathan

Extraordinary! I swear it's like being able to watch Aristotle, Pliny and John Stewart Mill take part in a debate.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

Couldn't someone just tell him to study a bit harder?

That, or study something he was capable of mastering.

Meanwhile back in Canada, Lindsay Shepherd, who we saw in the previous thread get grilled by the Wilfrid Laurier University Stasi, gets an apology from the president.

Of course it reads like a "damnit, we got busted" apology, but still...

R. Sherman

...an ongoing series of events...that seeks to promote “understanding, appreciation, and acceptance while moving talk into action.”

In fairness, that event sounds like a truly tedious way to spend an afternoon. On the bright side, though, it managed to get a group of otherwise useless administrators together in a room with useless "students" for a couple of hours thereby leaving the rest of the campus in peace.

David

Of course it reads like a “damnit, we got busted” apology,

But of course. Here’s Douglas Murray on the Lindsay Shepherd saga:

Like all great Stasi institutions, the university will not explain the exact crime. Nor reveal exactly what the accused is accused of. Nor reveal who the complainant is. Shepherd is not allowed to be told whether one student has complained. Or many. Or all. But she is informed that showing a viewpoint that is contrary to the currently prevailing dogma is akin to an act of violence. This, in turn, is against the Ontario Human Rights Code. All the current torture-terms are there. Things are ‘problematic’. Shepherd is guilty of ‘targeting’. Her actions are ‘discriminatory’ and make people feel ‘unsafe’. One of the apparatchiks even uses the term ‘positionality’ where the word ‘position’ would be perfectly adequate. Presumably because in his particular bubble there is no point in using the correct word when an elongated (and incorrect) one could give off an air of greater authority, the better to intimidate underlings with...

Having tried to tar her as a ‘transphobe’ there is an inevitable effort also to portray Shepherd as a ‘white supremacist’. This is done by the insistence that there is an effort currently underway to ethnically cleanse the north American states of everybody who is not white. Would she agree with that? The hope is clearly that Shepherd will walk into the laid trap and expose herself as a white supremacist. This she does not do. They do, however, manage to throw in one of the other great tools of the modern inquisition, which is to claim that Jordan Petersen has engaged in ‘doxing’. This is the practise – high on the list of modern inquisition heresy-claims – of publishing the personal details of somebody online. There is no evidence that Peterson has ever done any such thing. But the Wilfrid Laurier team are keen to grab whatever torture device they have to hand.

And none of this is an error or some one-off aberration, as the archives here testify. The sinister farce above is an inevitable consequence of prevailing leftist dogma, granted power, and of employing the kinds of people who delight in such behaviour.

WTP

indulged by spineless poseurs

I’m guessing they’re not totally spineless. I’d bet they’re all balls-to-the-walls when the College Republicans or some such fail to dot an i or cross a t on their application for being allowed to exist. Of course it helps when cucks get all grownup about it and acknowledge their mistake.

Pogonip

I bet Laurier University has inspired Lindsay to go somewhere else. Anywhere else.

That apology has an invisible prefix: "My lawyer says I have to write this, so..."

R. Sherman

Of course it reads like a “damnit, we got busted” apology.

Thus demonstrating Lindsay's greatest sin: Exposing the Maoists to public scrutiny and ridicule. It's nice to think she might find a different, more accommodating academic home, but I fear she has now become a pariah among the intelligentsia. It's one thing to demonstrate insufficient enthusiasm for the orthodoxy; it's another to air the "family's" dirty laundry out in front of God and everybody. The university and Lindsay's inquisitors will suffer no lasting harm from this. In fact, their status among their peers will undoubtedly increase. Lindsay however will now be a persona non grata within academe's insulated Leftist world.

Farnsworth M. Muldoon

Lindsay however will now be a persona non grata within academe's insulated Leftist world.

Yes, but for her that not be a bad thing if it causes her to reappraise her prior indoctrination and seek out a school and real major with which she can find a real job in the real world.

R. Sherman

It's surprising to me that Feminists have not jumped on board to defend Lindsay, who claims to be fairly left-wing in her political leanings. After all, she was berated by three higher status males to the point of tears under circumstances where it's apparent that her inquisitors were enjoying themselves in the process. In the U.S., Title IX investigations have been started for flimsier reasons.

CayleyGraph
Lindsay however will now be a persona non grata within academe's insulated Leftist world.
Yes, but for her that not be a bad thing if it causes her to reappraise her prior indoctrination and seek out a school and real major with which she can find a real job in the real world.
Don't be too sure about that "real job"; after all, the indoctrinated have been taking over Human Resources and management roles for decades now.
Spiny Norman

Yeah, I suspect by now a job in virtually any HR department requires an Angry Studies degree.

MC

Having tried to tar her as a ‘transphobe’

I can't help but notice that it is mainly women who are suffering the pointy end of The Tranny Terror.

Not just Lindsay, but also the Trans Exclusionary Radical Feminists (we called them daft old besoms in my day) who got beaten up by mad blokes in dresses recently, women prisoners who find themselves sharing a cellblock with a male rapist and of course the women and girls exposed to the beefy swingers of the delusional men who have invaded their changing rooms and toilets.

It's almost as if the whole thing was... pathological.

David

It’s surprising to me that Feminists have not jumped on board to defend Lindsay,

Instead, Ms Shepherd, along with those who expressed criticism of her treatment, are being accused of “upholding transphobic ideologies” and enacting “epistemic violence” on trans people. Because apparently, all trans people think alike, on every issue, and daring to demur from this supposedly uniform mindset, even in the most civil and even-handed way, is “transphobic.”

tkdkerry

like we’re smart as fuck, you know what I mean?

smack... smack... smack, smack, smacksmacksmackSMACKSMACKSMACKCKCKCKCKCKCKCKCKC...

Yeah, that probably pretty much describes their thought processes.

Alice

Because apparently, all trans people think alike, on every issue, and daring to demur from this supposedly uniform mindset, even in the most civil and even-handed way, is “transphobic.”

Funny how they're happy to "erase" trans people's individuality. :-)

WTP

Trans Exclusionary Radical Feminists (we called them daft old besoms in my day) who got beaten up by mad blokes in dresses recently, women prisoners who find themselves sharing a cellblock with a male rapist and of course the women and girls exposed to the beefy swingers of the delusional men who have invaded their changing rooms and toilets.

It's almost as if the whole thing was... pathological.

Of course someone will have to pay for this. Three guesses, and the first two don't count, as to who will be found to be the REAL ideological culprits behind putting beef swingers in women's locker rooms and such. Hint, the same one's now being held accountable for Bill Clinton's behavior. And the worthless cucks on the right will fall right in line and let it happen.

R. Sherman

Instead, Ms Shepherd, along with those who expressed criticism of her treatment, are being accused of “upholding transphobic ideologies” and enacting “epistemic violence” on trans people.

It's worthwhile to recall precisely what she did: She showed a clip of a nationally televised debate where both sides of a specific issue, i.e. the wisdom of legal penalties for not using one's preferred third person pronouns, were presented. That is, she provided the context in a course entitled "Communication in [Fucking] Context." She did nothing to advocate for a position. She merely acknowledged that such existed. As you have noted time and time again, the conclusion that bad faith permeates the Left's attempts at engagement is hard to escape.

David

Funny how they’re happy to “erase” trans people’s individuality.

As I’m sure I’ve said before, you have to wonder if these dim, dogmatic clowns ever pause to consider how their own arrogance and hair-trigger intolerance reflects on the “community” they claim to represent. It’s been my experience that the most obnoxious gay people are very often those involved in activism and who imagine themselves as professionally gay, as it were, as if it were a job, and who portray themselves as speaking for All Gay People Everywhere. They’re generally insufferable wankers. And I’d imagine that there are quite a few trans people who hear activists mouthing this whiny, vindictive horseshit and then roll their eyes in dismay.

Burnsie

And we’re not just talking out of our ass, like we’re smart as fuck, you know what I mean?

I believe it means, "You better nod your heads 'yes' or things are gonna get broken here, starting with your face."

David

Incidentally, and despite the seething of far-left activists, Dr Peterson has one or two trans admirers and there are trans people who are happy to chat with him about ideas without resorting to theatrical indignation or other passive-aggressive tactics. And in terms of trans acceptance, I’d suggest that the people in those videos are doing a much better job on that front than the perpetually indignant scolds found on campuses.

[ Edited. ]

Farnsworth M. Muldoon

...after all, the indoctrinated have been taking over Human Resources and management roles for decades now.

That is only an issue for a job in a that requires fuzzy qualifications in a fuzzy industry, and where HR are the hiring authority. It likely would not be an issue at Boeing if she were to take up aerospace engineering, of if she went to medical school, or at Merrill Lynch if she got an MBA from Wharton. OTOH, if she took up physics to combine that with her communications background and applied at the NY Times to be a science writer, yeah, she'd be hosed.

Connor

Dr Peterson has one or two trans admirers and there are trans people who are happy to chat with him about ideas without resorting to theatrical indignation or other passive-aggressive tactics.

First comment on the second video:

"Interesting....so when there are no white noise machines blaring, no fire alarms going off, no violence, no one yelling idiotic slogans....a constructive dialogue suddenly erupts. Who woulda thought!?"

That.

David

That.

It’s a good discussion.

Ano Nymous

It likely would not be an issue at Boeing...

Farnsworth, if I've read the thread correctly, you are saying that Boeing HR would eschew the current insanity in favor of reality-based qualifications and experience.

If they still do, it won't be for long. Having spent nearly 40 years in that company and being 5 years removed, I saw a steady erosion of the commitment to intellectual excellence and integrity and an increased acquiescence to the cultural demands of those who have come to be known as SJWs. It was very disheartening, and I'm glad I was able to finish a relatively good career before the madness completely took over.

If I misread you, my apologies.

WTP

It likely would not be an issue at Boeing

In the context of HR departments and who runs them, are you sure about that Farnsworth? My experience in the defense industry and even elsewhere in private industry, is that HR departments in most, if not all, large corporations, but especially corporations with extensive ties to western governments, are rife with these kinds of people. Very few HR people have technical knowledge, which in itself is not that big of a deal but additionally they are increasingly populated with non-techies who have a resentment of technical types. I think that was some of the problem at Google and elsewhere.

WTP

Ah, responded before reading Ano Nymous's similar comment. C'est la vie.

Pogonip

Tomorrow we Yanks get turkey & stuffing while you Brits are stuck with "eggs." We feel for you.

If you're ever over here in late November, you are all invited to the Pogonippery for Thanksgiving.

Farnsworth M. Muldoon

AnoN & WTP - we are not yet at the point where one has to be a member of the party to get a job as an airframe design engineer, which is not to say that a member of the preferred identity group du jour might get preference in hiring because of "diversity" policies ginned up by HR pukes. Neither are we at the point where GlaxoSmithKlein is going to hire a PhD in Angry Studies over a PharmD to develop new drugs.

R. Sherman

AnoN, WTP & Farnsworth,

Query whether the SJW types are kept insulated in their own little cubicles creating programs and aggravating the non-essential workforce, while the serious hiring and management decisions are made by the engineering teams themselves? I ask this, inasmuch as my elder son--dealt the worst possible hand in the game of "Oppression Poker" by virtue of his birth and upbringing--who has a stellar GPA in two STEM disciplines has had no end of job offers in the defense industry. He's always dealt with the specific project managers themselves. Never HR.

PiperPaul

In major CAPEX engineering projects it's also never HR doing the hiring. But much of that business has been off-shored to "high value engineering centers".

Farnsworth M. Muldoon

He's always dealt with the specific project managers themselves. Never HR.

Anecdotally from a number of friends who work for an assortment of aerospace and/or defense companies in technical (engineering or otherwise) occupations, and that which you describe has been their experience, (which is not to say that the HR pukes don't come up with ways to harass them with mandatory "diversity" training and the usual SJW gibberish), but HR had bugger all to do with hiring other than processing paperwork for the hire.

WTP

He's always dealt with the specific project managers themselves. Never HR. & similar

In many situations, and I have been in on technical interviews myself not necessarily making the hiring decision itself/solo but having a significant vote, resumes can be cut off from the hiring manager or team by HR never getting them there. I have seen this happen, not based on politics but based on an ignorance by HR people of being able to understand/grasp the needs of the job (which can be very different from the published “requirements”). Yet I have seen the politicization of HR departments in other regards. It does not take much effort in my mind, based on my knowledge of these processes to be concerned about what is going down in these organizations.

Lancastrian Oik

Tomorrow we Yanks get turkey & stuffing while you Brits are stuck with "eggs." We feel for you.

If you're ever over here in late November, you are all invited to the Pogonippery for Thanksgiving.

I know that our ways are sometimes a bit of a mystery to our cousins in the former colony, so it may assist if I point out that the food rationing in Britain which began with the outbreak of WWII ended in 1954. On the 4th July as it happens, but that's just co-incidental.

Lancastrian Oik

Speaking of another sow's ear (I refer of course to the ludicrously overrated television programme which she helped create; I may be an Oik but I still have some standards):

Dunham – the self-declared voice of a generation – is an over-indulged, narcissistic, talentless idiot. She’s made a career out of denying her many privileges and seeking out victimhood at every opportunity. But – like a stopped clock – Dunham was right that in the throes of a witch hunt, sometimes accusations fall wide of the mark. She’s right that sometimes, for all kinds of reasons, women might make false accusations. The idea that women are so childishly pure and innocent we are incapable of ever uttering an untruth does women no favours".

Spleen, vented.

pst314

He's always dealt with the specific project managers themselves. Never HR.

Half the problem is HR filtering the job applicants.
The other half is HR disciplining employees.
The third half is HR conducting "sensitivity" and "bias" training programs.

Farnsworth M. Muldoon

Tomorrow we Yanks get turkey & stuffing while you Brits are stuck with "eggs." We feel for you.

The People's Cube has Thanksgiving with an Alien.

Daniel Ream

Thus demonstrating Lindsay's greatest sin: Exposing the Maoists to public scrutiny and ridicule.

I ought to write an article on the many inexpensive ways one can record one's surroundings in a virtually undetectable manner. One day everyone will be James O'Keefe out of sheer necessity.

HR had bugger all to do with hiring

They don't have to have anything to do with hiring to run the company with an iron fist. The last two companies I worked for, engineering firms both, were absolutely dominated by the HR staff. Who were to a woman a bunch of bitter, incompetent and jealous old bints.

Pogonip

Just to reassure you, we do not serve feminist cheese at the Pogonippery.

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/11/22/style/cheese-made-by-women

RightofGenghis

And we’re not just talking out of our ass, like we’re smart as fuck, you know what I mean? We read books, and we know shit;

Uhm, yes, you are, in fact, talking out of your ass.

You are, as a group, and as individuals, a strikingly banal gaggle of ass-talkers. In fact, listening to you, I can tell that you can't actually *do* anything, except talk out of your ass.

You don't belong in university, at all. The only reason you are in university at all is because it makes a certain class of overly-credentialed white women and soft-as-silky-pajamas white men feel better about themselves. Well, that, and your skin color is currently fashionable. You are a drag on society. You add nothing and subtract a considerable amount.

You don't belong in a trade school, either. They'd kick you out for being an arrogant pecker-headed moron who can't learn.

You belong in a care home for illiterate sub-morons.

You deserve to be ignored and/or scorned until you produce something that someone else is willing to pay for. Until then, fuck off.

Hal

I ought to write an article on the many inexpensive ways one can record one's surroundings in a virtually undetectable manner.

For some reason the telescreen in the living-room was in an unusual position. Instead of being placed, as was normal, in the end wall, where it could command the whole room, it was in the longer wall, opposite the window. To one side of it there was a shallow alcove in which Winston was now sitting, and which, when the flats were built, had probably been intended to hold bookshelves. By sitting in the alcove, and keeping well back, Winston was able to remain outside the range of the telescreen, so far as sight went.

. . .

The thing that he was about to do was to open a diary. This was not illegal (nothing was illegal, since there were no longer any laws), but if detected it was reasonably certain that it would be punished by death, or at least by twenty-five years in a forced-labour camp.

David

You don’t belong in university, at all.

The Mao-lings’ fitness for a learning environment does seem rather doubtful, and their behaviour is an insult to those who do belong there, and who’ve worked hard to get there, and who are keen to make the most of their expensive, one-time opportunity. And contrary to the fantasies of many leftist educators, you can’t hammer an above-average IQ into just anyone’s brain.

Or as my dear grey-haired gran used to say, you can’t shovel toothpaste up a hummingbird’s arse.

Ray

We be ackerdemicks an sheit.

Surreptitious Evil

Half the problem is HR filtering the job applicants.

I can remember HR insisting that I interviewed a batch of applicants from their "preferred supplier". None of them had any of the basic skills for my bit of the business. I lasted two before throwing my teddies out of the pram.

I later found out that the reason they thought I should insist was that our department's specialist suppliers didn't provide diverse enough candidates. (By this point I had a Sikh, two women and even a Kiwi amongst my core team.)

Tim Newman

Having spent nearly 40 years in that company and being 5 years removed, I saw a steady erosion of the commitment to intellectual excellence and integrity and an increased acquiescence to the cultural demands of those who have come to be known as SJWs.

Ditto the oil industry.

Tim Newman

Very few HR people have technical knowledge, which in itself is not that big of a deal but additionally they are increasingly populated with non-techies who have a resentment of technical types.

Which is why I am seriously thinking of going into HR. I reckon a guy with HR qualifications and common sense with a technical background will be as rare as hen's teeth. Sure, many corporations wouldn't employ me, but I suspect one or two smaller companies might, particularly start-ups looking to expand and reluctantly conceding they need to hire an HR manager.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

Thus demonstrating Lindsay's greatest sin: Exposing the Maoists to public scrutiny and ridicule.

Meanwhile back in Canada at Wilfrid Laurier University, student newspapers are destroyed for the thoughtcrime of just having a story discussing the Lindsay Shepherd story.

It seems the Campus KGB really doesn't like being exposed.

They are going full Mao; one should never go full Mao...

WTP

Which is why I am seriously thinking of going into HR. I reckon a guy with HR qualifications and common sense with a technical background will be as rare as hen's teeth

Yes. My observations have had me consider similar career change. But it would have to be similar to as you say, a smaller company where all I did was recruitment. Just going on recruiting trips with HR people in a larger corporation has convinced me that I could not stomach being surrounded by such people 40 hours a week. And I have no desire to push paper around to satisfy government bureaucrats. So of course my options would be quite limited.

David

Meanwhile back in Canada at Wilfrid Laurier University, student newspapers are destroyed for the thoughtcrime of just having a story discussing the Lindsay Shepherd story.

It’s tolerance and fluffiness all the way down.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

Revise and extend: before it goes down the memory hole, the story causing the Campus KGB to destroy the papers at WLU.

RTWT as the kids say, it is actual reporting, just the facts, no opining, and not a damn thing that anyone among the perpetually aggrieved would find offensive or controversial except perhaps their own words in a quote from the WLU "Rainbow Centre" which is the usual "my feels are hurt" SJW boilerplate jabberwocky.

“Characterizing these debates as “polarizing” is a misrepresentation of the incredible inequity on which they are founded, requiring trans people to defend their humanity against arguments that invalidate their experiences of gender. Silencing the voices of trans people in this context only compounds the transphobic violence which has been inherent in this discussion and has created an environment in which trans students fear to speak out against transphobia.

I wish they would come up with a new shitck once in a while. The good news, however, is that WLU may take it in the wallet.

Shepherd said that since the situation was publicized, she has received hundreds of emails from Laurier alumni and other individuals who have allegedly told Shepherd they will be ceasing to provide donations to Laurier and will not be recommending Laurier to potential students.

However, Thoughtcriminal Shepherd goes on with her violent™ heresy.

However, Shepherd said she stands firm in her stance that a university should be able to discuss controversial topics despite the possibility that it might offend an individual or a group of individuals.

She needs to didi mao from that miserable place ASAP.

David

hundreds of emails from Laurier alumni and other individuals who have allegedly told Shepherd they will be ceasing to provide donations to Laurier and will not be recommending Laurier to potential students.

That’s the way to do it. Consequences.

Tom
I ought to write an article on the many inexpensive ways one can record one's surroundings in a virtually undetectable manner. One day everyone will be James O'Keefe out of sheer necessity.

That sounds well worth reading but you'd need to be very careful, at least in the U.S. Surreptitiously recording people in some jurisdictions can land you on the wrong side of a wiretapping charge (I believe) and looking at a long stretch in the pokey.

And I have no desire to push paper around to satisfy government bureaucrats.

I completely agree, and that's how the bastards win. They make it too boring for anyone of a normal disposition to stomach and ensure they're left alone to wreak havoc.

PiperPaul

"you can’t shovel toothpaste up a hummingbird’s arse"

Are we certain about this, though? These days we have powerful computers, the internet and automation, so nothing's impossible anymore. I suggest demand a new field of study funded by government grants so we can do science and build some data models to resolve this matter once and for all.

David

Are we certain about this, though?

Oh, there’d be angry letters. A Twitter campaign at least.

R. Sherman

@Tom

You are correct about wiretapping in certain U.S. states. In some, only one participant needs to consent to a recording. In others, all parties must consent. As you might imagine the latter jurisdictions tend to be (though not exclusively) those with more progressive governments, which don't care to have their or their allies' activities subject to public scrutiny. O'Keefe's exploits with Planned Parenthood in California, IIRC, come to mind. See also, Linda Tripp recording Monica Lewinsky during Oval Office B.J. controversy of the mid-90's.

Darleen

In others, all parties must consent. As you might imagine the latter jurisdictions tend to be (though not exclusively) those with more progressive governments, which don't care to have their or their allies' activities subject to public scrutiny

Yep, that's California, which will applaud a progressive animal-rights groups gathering secret video tapes inside a slaughter house of cows (investigative journalism, you know), but has our toady Attorney General going after pro-life investigative journalists exposing the trafficking in baby parts.

Pogonip

Cat lady comeuppance:

http://www.khou.com/mobile/article/news/crime/woman-accused-of-mailing-explosives-to-gov-abbott-pres-obama/285-494079350

To be fair, she did only have the one cat, so I guess she doesn't qualify as a true cat lady.

Pogonip

But how often do I get to say "cat lady comeuppance"? 🐱

sH2

you can’t shovel toothpaste up a hummingbird’s arse

Wisdom.

Daniel Ream

Surreptitiously recording people in some jurisdictions can land you on the wrong side of a wiretapping charge (I believe) and looking at a long stretch in the pokey.

Better to have incriminating material and not use than not have it when you need it. Given a choice between a spurious "wiretapping" charge and having one's career, livelihood and potentially freedom destroyed by a malicious monolithic bureaucracy, one sometimes must make hard choices.

Daniel Ream

That’s the way to do it. Consequences.

Won't make the slightest difference. Canadian universities aren't funded that way. There's already more demand for university places than supply in Waterloo Region, and as I said WLU is Last Chance U. No matter how many students refrain from attending, there are thousands more waiting.

bgates

Cat lady comeuppance

An odd story, oddly written:

She was allegedly upset with Gov. Abbott for not receiving support from her ex-husband.

Federal investigators say they were able to connect Poff to the packages using pieces of the shipping labels, and also matched cat hair found in the box mailed to President Obama with her cat.

I don't care how upset she was that the governor of Texas wasn't supported by her ex-husband, it's no excuse for her to mail her cat to the president.

David

Won’t make the slightest difference.

Tar and feathers it is, then.

Pogonip

sH2: Has anyone tried?

Darleen

one sometimes must make hard choices.

Word.

Hopp Singg

... we know shit

Agreed.

Spiny Norman

RightofGenghis,

You belong in a care home for illiterate sub-morons.

The Remedial School for Microcephalic Web-Footed Cretins has space available, or so I've heard...

Tom
See also, Linda Tripp recording Monica Lewinsky during Oval Office B.J. controversy of the mid-90's.
Better to have incriminating material and not use than not have it when you need it.

Yes, despite the potential legal difficulties it's always better to have proof and not need it then to be desperately in need and empty handed. Daniel's comment prompted the memory that incriminating, but illegally obtained, evidence saved the protagonist's bacon in Bonfire of the Vanities.

jones

Sorry I'm late to this party but this....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93Qs2oiTx2Y

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