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December 03, 2017

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Farnsworth M Muldoon

There’s no way to please the compulsively, competitively, neurotically indignant

Yep. In the last post we were being hectored by Miss Melinda Byerley that we crackeresque types with the clear implication that we are both not Woke™, but likely racist because "black twitter" is better than "white twitter" and we must study and admire it (but from a safe distance so as not to disturb them). The question of whether she thinks all blacks on twitter think alike, or should, is left for another debate.

However, now we find that Miss Byerley is actually a racist because she tries not to be racist.

Repeat after me, my sweet white ally: less is more! Amplify the actual concerns of people of color instead of getting mad about something irrelevant online for so your non-white friends know you're "one of the good ones."
Mike

in which implausibly delicate students and administrators rail against the “homonormative whiteness” of a campus LGBTQ centre.

*headdesk*

David

*headdesk*

Evidently, the crab-bucket habit is hard to resist. It’s quite funny how these preening creatures will bang on about “solidarity” and yet turn on their own tribe of alleged victims, fragmenting it further, in order to assert the new sub-group’s even greater victimhood, and thereby asserting its more elevated status.

R. Sherman

...turn on their own tribe of alleged victims, fragmenting it further...

Damn splitters! Mensheviks and Trotskyites all! Where's Comrade Stalin when we need him?

Rob

Because The Comments Are Worth Reading

This is one of the few blogs where I always read the comments too.

David

This is one of the few blogs where I always read the comments too.

Glad to hear it. As I’ve said many times, the posts are intended as starting points, spurs to discussion, and the subsequent threads are often much more interesting.

PiperPaul

"preening creatures"

It's almost like selfishness disguised as compassion and caring.

I sneeze in threes

You only need to remember one simple rule, to do as you're scold.

pst314

This has been going on for quite a while, and the only difference is that today there are more and louder lunatics. I recall back in the 70's a black gay man deploring the terrible, terrible racism of Amerikkka (which justified hating all white people) by noting that in young white gay prostitutes were more sought after than black gay prostitutes, and that most porn featured white women. His familiarity with gay prostitution was almost as revealing as his endless search for racism.

Spiny Norman

Farnsworth,

However, now we find that Miss Byerley is actually a racist because she tries not to be racist.

Naturally, condescension oozes from Ms Way's every word. I'm not sure which is worse.

Killer Marmot

Just as Madame Guillotine feasted on her own children near the end of the French Terror -- consuming eventually Robespierre himself -- so the far left turns on its own. The line between oppressed and oppressor is apparently as thin as a hair and as capricious as the weather.

Killer Marmot
Visualizing queer spaces: LGBTQ students and the traditionally heterogendered institution

Visualizing queer spaces. Great, now I got that image going through my head.

David

No refunds. Credit note only.

David

Also oppressed, apparently.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

Also oppressed, apparently.

It seems that is a parody site, not that the parody isn't fake but accurate e.g., our oppressed millionaire football players over here.

Meanwhile, from the same site, meet oppressed Gavin who can't find work in the emoji industry.

Daniel Ream

Also oppressed, apparently.

The font on that banner looks suspiciously like my alma mater, and given how this week has been going for Great Moments in Canadian Asininity, I wouldn't be surprised.

PiperPaul


Not sure if Gavin is Photoshopped.

pst314

Is "Brits have bad teeth" an obsolete stereotype?

Hal

Is "Brits have bad teeth" an obsolete stereotype?

No. Not at all.

PiperPaul

We just had a thread featuring Brits with awesome teeth!

R. Sherman

This is one of the few blogs where I always read the comments too.

And David forgot to mention the discussion in the prior post's comments about portable loos. A veritable "one-stop shop" the comments section is.

jabrwok

I can't access the Twitter posts, alas. I'm bein' oppressed I am!

I suppose I could create an account, but...nah.

Farnsworth M. Muldoon

I suppose I could create an account...

You don't need an account to see them, if you click, they should open in a browser tab, if they don't you have something fubared with your browser.

Ed Snack

Uh, excuse me, but isn't the term "FUBARED" a little bit white heteronormatively condescending ? And I thought this was a "safe" space, sheesh.

jabrwok

@Muldoon-san: nope..."Sorry, you are not authorized to see this status."

This is a new thing. Usually Twit-links posted hereabouts work just fine for me.

pst314

Is "Brits have bad teeth" an obsolete stereotype?
No. Not at all.

We just had a thread featuring Brits with awesome teeth!

I saw that thread, but hoped that the humor was mostly based on old outdated stereotypes. Surely England has lots of good dentists, and the talented medicos have not all followed James Herriot into animal medicine.

pst314

I can't access the Twitter posts, alas. I'm bein' oppressed I am!

If you cannot see them, maybe you are using a Javascript blocker?

jabrwok

If you cannot see them, maybe you are using a Javascript blocker?

I've tried with and without Java blocking, and neither works. I suppose I'll just have to soldier on! Stiff upper-lip and all that, wot, wot?

fnord

querio ego ergo sum

Darleen

Just as Madame Guillotine feasted on her own children near the end of the French Terror -- consuming eventually Robespierre himself -- so the far left turns on its own

Not fast enough.

pst314

I've tried with and without Java blocking, and neither works.

I just re-followed that link, and saw this:

https://twitter.com/RacheaI_Swindon

This account's Tweets are protected.

Only confirmed followers have access to @RacheaI_Swindon's Tweets and complete profile. Click the "Follow" button to send a follow request.

Perhaps the (cue scary music) violence of unworshipful attention was too much for her?

Darleen

To fight this, Pryor calls for colleges to “escape these exclusionary practices” and “begin moving toward practices that center LGBTQ lives in all areas of campus,” asserting that “Institutions can begin to dismantle these traditions through intentional and disruptive efforts to truly center the experiences of LGBTQ communities.”

Why? Even as they desperately try to expand their community by adding any number of capital letters to the LGTQQABCDEFG alphabet soup, they are and will be less than 10% of the population.

They will never be the center of attention, regardless of the pronoun bullying and having drag queens do library reading circles for tots.

They need to beaten about the head & shoulders until they grow up or go away.

Farnsworth M. Muldoon

This is a new thing.

Do you have something that updated, or are you using Ghostery or similar - some of them, Ghostery for instance, can block twitter unless it is allowed ?

Farnsworth M. Muldoon

Over at Small Dead Animals, we find a mayor literally shaking.

In case you were wondering, New Brighton is an 84% white bedroom community of Minneapolis so it is unclear who the apparently anti-white privilege program was supposed to benefit. The worst part of the video is seeing all the ovine council members except plucky Gina sit there and neither tell the mayor to STFU, nor just leave.

jabrwok

Do you have something that updated, or are you using Ghostery or similar

None of which I'm aware. I'm on a computer at work, but that's never been an issue before. I'll try again in the morning on my home computer. No biggie:-).

Spiny Norman

pst314

This account's Tweets are protected.

Only confirmed followers have access to @RacheaI_Swindon's Tweets and complete profile. Click the "Follow" button to send a follow request.

Yep, I'm getting the same thing. I suspect you are correct about the "violence of unworshipful attention".

R. Sherman

@Darleen

The colleges could "center" Pryor all they want, but that would still not a) make him happy and b) cure his emotional illness. And make no mistake. Demanding that your universe revolve around you as the "center" is mental illness.

@Farnsworth,

Given that had the white dudes opposed the mayor they would be pilloried for being a) white and b) male the safest course is to stay quiet. Though perhaps, they're in agreement. It's Minnesota, after all.

David

we find a mayor literally shaking.

What a malevolent bitch. I was fascinated by her lack of eye contact.

David

Given that had the white dudes opposed the mayor they would be pilloried for being a) white and b) male the safest course is to stay quiet.

Here’s Jordan Peterson talking with Camille Paglia about the difficulties for men when dealing with insane and malevolent women, and how sometimes other, saner women may need to intervene.

Over the years, I’ve had one or two in-person encounters with such harpies and it isn’t always clear how to respond in a socially acceptable way. As Peterson says, if the conventions of responding to male aggression are inappropriate when dealing with aggressive women – women who will actively and knowingly exploit those inhibitions - you can find yourself with few, if any, good options.

ACTOldFart

"Is "Brits have bad teeth" an obsolete stereotype?
No. Not at all.

We just had a thread featuring Brits with awesome teeth!

I saw that thread, but hoped that the humor was mostly based on old outdated stereotypes. Surely England has lots of good dentists ... "

Brits dont have good teeth or bad teeth, they have exactly the teeth that the National Health Service tells them they will have. Given that the NHS's IT systems got totally taken down recently by a virus for which Microsoft had, months ago, already issued the security patch, you can draw your own conclusions about what the average Briton's teeth will come out looking like. Sort of imagine Dracula's dentition being designed by a government committee.

Tim Newman

As Peterson says, if the conventions of responding to male aggression are inappropriate when dealing with aggressive women – women who will actively and knowingly exploit those inhibitions - you can find yourself with few, if any, good options.

The "alpha-male" PUA blogs are good on this: just don't take them seriously, affect an air of mild bemusement and openly laugh when required. They're not acting in good faith and nor should you. Smirking and large, shit-eating grins are particularly effective.

David

Smirking and large, shit-eating grins are particularly effective.

Well, that can work in situations where the hostility is verbal or psychological. But as we’ve seen during various Mao-ling protests and ‘occupations’, some woke ladies seem keen to push into more physical territory, presumably while counting on the customary taboos regarding payment in kind, or on the fact that any physical retaliation would be a short-cut to that all-important victimhood status, with the retaliating male now deemed the villain of the piece.

WTP

Over at Small Dead Animals, we find a mayor literally shaking.

Not much different than that day 20 years or so ago when I said to a psychologist/marriage counselor the very measured words (in context) of, “I don’t think women have it all that bad”. Little bastard nearly jumped out of his chair. Similar form of argumentation. He was quite close to “literally” shaking ( well actually was in the context of what “literal” means...but I digress). What should we expect a generation down the road? Fasten your seatbelts because it is only going to get worse. Yes, notice the men in the room squirming in their chairs. What do you expect? Any other expected behavior is simply grandstanding on the part of the critic. If any of those men had taken any reasonable action, this story would be about them. The media and such would come down on them in a very serious and nasty way. Nobody wants to stick their neck out. What’s in it for them? SJW’s get their reward through the virtue sent their way. These men have zero upside and all downside. It’s just simple economics.

R. Sherman

Peterson describes the dynamic quite well. A mere passing glance at any of the feminist fora discussed on these pages regularly demonstrates that any male reaction to such female displays no matter how absurd--short of abasing oneself completely--is met with howls of outrage and cries of "Misogyny!" Which, in turn, demonstrates what a shell game Feminist rhetoric about "equality" really is. They want all the benefits of the male, rough and tumble world without having to engage in the rough and tumble part.

R. Sherman

BTW, the Peterson/Paglia clip above is part of a longer discussion here. I'm only fifteen minutes in and it's well worth the time.

Pull quote from Paglia: [S]tudents are not being taught the great [historical] narratives. Why? Because we're being told all narratives are false.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

These men have zero upside and all downside. It’s just simple economics.

Quite the opposite, they have nothing to lose. The average income of New Brighton is $60K so it is not likely that these brave lads are dependent on their part time council job, it is a bedroom community of Minneapolis with little industry, the city council is nothing more than a glorified home owners association. None of these people are going to become the next Boss Pendergast because of the might and majesty of their positions, all of which expire on 31 December of this year. The worst that happens is that someone might not like them.

R. Sherman

Quite the opposite, they have nothing to lose.

Sadly, in this age of social media lynch mobs, the males on that city council could lose quite a bit. It's not just a silly, local government post. It's the 10,000 emails to their employers and the signs in their neighborhood threatening their kids.

WTP

Quite the opposite, they have nothing to lose.

Seems they see it differently. Unless you have more inside knowledge than indicated. The worst that happens is that someone might not like them.. For the sake of 1/3 of the argument, let's consider this. If, as you say, it's nothing more than a glorified HOA, many HOA's (like mine) pay ZERO. But people get on those boards for any number of reasons. Perhaps there are bigger issues that are more important to them, issues specific to their businesses or children's schools or roads or such. Or perhaps they are just ego driven douches who get a kick from the idea that others see them as pillars of the community. Either way, it's something. They didn't get on the commission for no good (to themselves) reason. I may view the reasons of every last one of them with contempt, or their reasons might be in my mind reasonable. Irrelevant. They didn't speak up because the risk was not worth any piddly kind of reward that they might, in some Walter Mitty fantasy world, even remotely have a chance at receiving. Economics.

One thing I do find interesting is the woman being attacked speaks of her Italian heritage. And there's the rub. Italian-American women are not to be messed with. Do not cross them. Do not boss them. They will NOT back down. Even when they are wrong (which only seems to occur in conflict with other Italian-American women), but most especially when they are right. But of course, I'm being racist here. ;)

pst314

Brits dont have good teeth or bad teeth, they have exactly the teeth that the National Health Service tells them they will have.

Ouch.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

Sadly, in this age of social media lynch mobs, the males on that city council could lose quite a bit.

In a sleepy hamlet like New Brighton I think you are over estimating the threat as I doubt more than 1 in 10 residents even know who they are.

Seems they see it differently. Unless you have more inside knowledge than indicated.

If you read this and the comments it appears they have it in for Councilwoman Gina because she dared, per one commenter at the behest of her constituents, consult the city attorney regarding a decision the council made where they may arbitrarily changes to the lengths of their terms.

Or perhaps they are just ego driven douches who get a kick from the idea that others see them as pillars of the community.

Which seems likely in this instance given the above, which makes them more reprehensible, however, the only one really with something to lose other than a bruised ego is the city manager who is on contract, and gets a cool $144K to manage a suburb of 20,000 people.

jabrwok

some woke ladies seem keen to push into more physical territory

In my more self-indulgent fantasies I'll contemplate being confronted by such a woman and asking her if she wants to be treated as an equal. When, in said fantasy scenario, she inevitably says "yes", I then proceed to treat her as I'd treat a man who behaved in such thusly.

Of course in reality I'd go to prison for assault (at least) should I act in such a manner, but the fantasy scenario is often at least somewhat cathartic.

On which note: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDFN2xlo9mo

Tim Newman

But as we’ve seen during various Mao-ling protests and ‘occupations’, some woke ladies seem keen to push into more physical territory, presumably while counting on the customary taboos regarding payment in kind, or on the fact that any physical retaliation would be a short-cut to that all-important victimhood status, with the retaliating male now deemed the villain of the piece.

What's worth mentioning, and I've done so before, is that the women you describe choose their targets carefully, i.e. they make sure they're nice, quiet middle-class men before screaming at them. Which is a problem if you are, like I suspect most on here, a nice middle-class man. Frankly, I'd never get myself anywhere near a situation like that.

WTP

Either way, it doesn't much matter. They're either not going to stick their necks out because their constituents see things similarly, thus democracy in action an a pox on the community or as R. Sherman says, It's the 10,000 emails to their employers and the signs in their neighborhood threatening their kids..

Look, I'm with you in the condemnation from an absolute perspective. I'm just saying things are the way they are for a reason.

I've stuck my neck out in the business world on this sort of thing. What's cute is how you get these private "atta-boys", softly spoken, "Thank God someone said it". But nobody is willing to do so publicly. They've got kids in private school, mortgages, boats, airplane hobbies, etc. And this is not just a political thing. It applies to a wide range of BS in society and business. People are afraid to speak up. What my inner feminist would like to see is more Italian-American women in engineering. While not a career killer (mostly because I'm an engineer and never much interested in management advancement, but also because I have some social respect in the worker-bee community), it's not good for one's "corporate image" when raises and promotions are being considered. And not something you want to explain to the wife when such stories come up with coworkers over beers.

pst314

But as we’ve seen during various Mao-ling protests and ‘occupations’, some woke ladies seem keen to push into more physical territory

I recall reading, many years ago, that women were often the most zealously cruel agents of Mao's Cultural Revolution.
Does anybody recall specific books that discuss or at least touch on this?

Governor Squid

In a sleepy hamlet like New Brighton I think you are over estimating the threat...

As a resident of the Twin Cities, I will concede that New Brighton is indeed the sleepy suburb you describe. That being said, it's a quick drive to New Brighton City Hall from Minneapolis' 4th Precinct police station, and you can believe that the BLM organizers and the U of M feminist agitators and the various community organizers from both sides of the river would be more than happy to make an example out of any Privileged White Males who spoke out of turn. They've been looking for an excuse ever since the Castillo protests quieted down.

Given that these mobs are aided and abetted by the police and the Governor, I think you underestimate the potential (one might say probable) downside if these guys got picked up on Twitter and used to whip up the usual suspects.

Governor Squid

Italian-American women are not to be messed with. Do not cross them.

There's a certain celebrity cult church that tried that with Leah Remini, to their ongoing dismay.

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