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December 05, 2017

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Black Ball

Q&A here in Australia had one audience member in tears over the Donald and offshore detention centres.

http://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/qanda-eric-abetz-and-lisa-singh-go-head-to-head-over-manus-island-crisis/ar-BBGcyCy?li=AAavLaF&ocid=ientp

Connor

Somewhat related, this video here, in which students share their views of the exhibit,

It's the John Jay brains trust.

David

It’s the John Jay brains trust.

And then there’s the bit, about 2 minutes in, where the unnamed faculty member says, rather airily, “The whole point of John Jay is inclusion…” and has to be reminded that, actually, the point of the place where she works is, supposedly, criminal justice.

David

I suppose one could take the exhibition as a reminder of what really animates our artistic Brahmins, and how peripheral, if present at all, artistic content actually is. I mean, this colossal work, by Muhammad al-Ansi, a would-be suicide bomber who served on bin Laden’s security detail, is particularly deep and steeped in aesthetics.

No?

Charlie Suet

The NYT has also recently run laudatory articles on North Korea and the sex-lives of women under communism. Quite bizarre.

Jonathan

Somewhat related, this video here, in which students share their views of the exhibit,

I wonder if John Jay College would show artworks created by, say, Dylann Roof? If not, why not?

David

The NYT has also recently run laudatory articles on North Korea and the sex-lives of women under communism. Quite bizarre.

The nakedness of the posturing is itself quite telling, the matter-of-fact assumption of non-reciprocal standards – for instance, the conceit that one shouldn’t object to illegal aliens driving about, illegally, without insurance or a license. Presumably on the basis that the New York Times reporter, Vivian Yee, assumes she’ll never be the one suffering the consequences of someone else’s reckless and repeated criminal behaviour.

It’s up there with ‘Why would anyone fuss about a bit of harmless burglary?’ As seen in the Guardian.

Or, ‘Why make a fuss about masked thugs rioting, smashing windows and setting other people’s property on fire?’ As seen, for instance, here.

David

I wonder if John Jay College would show artworks created by, say, Dylann Roof? If not, why not?

There’s also the implication that, because the thousands of people who lost loved ones during the atrocities aren’t a Designated Victim Group, as defined by the left, any insult or anger they feel as a result of the exhibit can be waved aside as immaterial, and presumably unsophisticated. If the victims of a massive terrorist atrocity were a definable victim group, as defined by people who like to define these things, I suspect the controversy would be handled rather differently.

Y. Knott

That has not stopped Erin Thompson and her two fellow curators...

- I tell ya, these Thompsons... ;)

Pogonip

Deplorable lot, aren’t they? 😉

Jonathan

Deplorable lot, aren’t they?

'Deplorable' Thompson? Has a certain ring....

Jonathan

.. people who lost loved ones during the atrocities aren’t a Designated Victim Group,

There also seems an unspoken assumption that the perpetrators of said atrocities are considered members of a Designated Victim Group, and therefore worthy of empathy.

R.Sherman

...the wearying, juvenile need to be seen as transgressing bourgeois proprieties...

Of course, we're approaching--if we haven't already reached--the point where such transgression no longer has the capacity to shock the bourgeoisie. "Transgressing bourgeois proprieties" has become quite middle-brow.

Mags

From the NYT article:

President Trump has declared anyone living in the country illegally a target for arrest and deportation, driving up the number of immigration arrests by more than 40 percent this year.

Earth to journalist - THIS IS NOT A BAD THING.

Steve

I don't understand some on the left's approval of ISIS. I mean although monstorous, I can understand the admiration of Che Guevera, Stalin, or Mao. After all, they have some common values. (Abolition of property, elimination of class differences, etc.) But, with ISIS it is different. ISIS treats women abysmally which you think would rile the left, and also shows no reciprocity with the lefts goals. It would appear to be no more than the enemy of my enemy is my friend.

David

Earth to journalist - THIS IS NOT A BAD THING.

The NYT article does, I think, offer some insight into a bizarre worldview and the dishonesties required to sustain it. The piece repeatedly conflates immigrants in general with illegal aliens, as if no meaningful distinction were to be made, and the tacit assumption throughout is that large numbers of people violating your country’s borders, daily, is something the public shouldn’t care about. There’s also the strange conceit that US citizens are only supposed to care about the lawbreaker’s illegal alien status when it can be invoked as some decisively mitigating factor, an all-purpose excuse; as opposed to, say, an aggravating factor, another criminal act to add to the others.

RightofGenghis

What I think most people outside this little ecosystem of sanity that Mr. Thompson so kindly provides for us, is that the term "postmodernism" isn't an area of academic study of anything at all. When writing something, or describing something, or creating "postmodernist art, the postmodernist isn't demonstrating mastery of a subject or producing anything. Rather, the postmodernist is demonstrating his power to subjugate the reader/viewer/listener to his will: "I, the postmodernist, have the power to force you to pay deference and respect to something that you know is utter crap. I can force you to act in a way that is directly counter to your self-respect, your dignity, your culture, your religion, and indeed, your very freedom of thought. And there's nothing you can do about it."

Therefore, the further from reality postmodernism is, the more effective it is at demonstrating that power. Understood properly, what these academics are doing is demonstrating their power to force the university to act against its interest as a university. The only proper reaction to these postmodernists is to dispatch them with prejudice. Fire them from the faculty, remove the cancer from the institution and never let it return.

RightofGenghis

...the wearying, juvenile need to be seen as transgressing bourgeois proprieties...

Actually, I quite agree with that. I hereby nominate "tenure" as the bourgeois value that could use some serious transgressing at this university. Fire these jackals. Force them to obey their own values, for once.

R.Sherman

...the postmodernist isn't demonstrating mastery of a subject or producing anything. Rather, the postmodernist is demonstrating his power to subjugate the reader/viewer/listener to his will...

The first 15-20 minutes of this discussion between Jordan Peterson and Camille Paglia is instructive, especially Paglia's discussion of postmodernism and art.

Boatswain's Mate

"Deplorable Thompson." Sounds like the name of a Billy Corgan side project.

David

“Deplorable Thompson.”

Or Knuckles Thompson, as I was known in the big house.

Daniel Ream

I can force you to act in a way that is directly counter to your self-respect, your dignity, your culture, your religion, and indeed, your very freedom of thought. And there's nothing you can do about it.

I think the reason Theodore Dalrymple's interview on political correctness gets forgotten because people think it's only about Communism.

what these academics are doing is demonstrating their power to force the university to act against its interest as a university.

Iowahawk again.

We've known what the problem is since Bezmenov and what the solution is since Pinochet.

pst314

"Deplorable Thompson"

Did you live just up the road from the Yokum family and Moonbeam McSwine?

Pogonip

Hi Steve,

Re your Isis question, to the left “woman” means “rich or upper-middle-class feminist.” This is also why they are silent on female circumcision—to what passes for their minds, it doesn’t affect women.

Also, I think David should change the name of the bar to Chez Deplorable.

David

Modern-day news consumption.

Squires

...and also shows no reciprocity with the lefts goals.

Stated. The left's stated goals.

Pogonip

21st-century nuttiness reaches a new, er, bottom

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-5144101/Anal-bleaching-23-pressure-porn-star-look.html?ito=social-twitter_dailymailUK

I thought at my age I’d heard it all. Silly me.

WTP

Modern-day news consumption.

Seen these arguments around for a while. Panic about how to pay for them. The base problem is there are way to many news sites that have traditionally ridden on local monopolies (in the US at least). A shake out needs to occur. I'm just a dumb engineer, but it seems to me if you could provide quality journalism...you know, no lying, do thorough fact checking, sources openly acknowledged for their varying degrees of reliability...you could attract a large enough volume of eyeballs to your site such that a few CocaCola or Mercedes or Amazon adverts could support it. Of course, being a dumb engineer, I ain't run the math on that. But if news sites are losing money anyway, perhaps someone should try it? Just a suggestion...

Sam Duncan

“I think the reason Theodore Dalrymple's interview on political correctness gets forgotten because people think it's only about Communism.”

I don't think people appreciate just how much Communism is still a threat. Whether or not Golitsyn's “long-term strategy” is real or not, it's certainly true that the fall of the USSR has had precisely the effect that he claimed it was intended to. Since people in the west no longer think of Communism in terms of the Soviet military threat, they're more tolerant of its ideas.

All these things - “political correctness”, post-modernism, green-ism, etc. - are about Communism, even if many of their loudest advocates don't realise it (that's the beauty of it, from the overt Marxists' point of view; they have more “useful idiots” this way than the Soviets ever dreamed of). It's just that the danger no longer comes from Moscow, but from within.

pst314

I don't think people appreciate just how much Communism is still a threat.

Agreed. I knew a lot of radical leftists and outright communists in and around academia in the 70's, and none of them have ceased to be infatuated with totalitarian socialism. If anything, they are more vociferous in their advocacy and more openly intolerant of those who prefer freedom.

Triumphant Ape

Some of us laugh at the antics of "leftist" and SJW's, some shake their heads.
But I'm a bit concerned about it, what will it be like working with them? Taking orders from them? having them in political office? What will their generation of children be like?

The other day I was in Starbucks and an older gentlemen was taking my order, when he slid the glass door to the pastries open it knocked a small display tray over.
No big deal easily fixed, but the young woman working with him stated at the top of her voice "so and so knocked over your display Ann, I think it was malicious".
I said equally as loud "The only thing here that's malicious is you".
As I said I'm concerned.

Daniel Ream

I'm just a dumb engineer, but it seems to me if you could provide quality journalism

You don't even need a human being to do it. http://broom.org/epic/ (Warning, Adobe Flash required. Because that site dates from 2004.)

If anything, they are more vociferous in their advocacy and more openly intolerant of those who prefer freedom.

As I said, we've known what the solution is since Pinochet. There's an interesting theory over on the alt-right ("r/K selection") that claims that due to evolved reproduction strategies, human society inevitably goes through boom and bust periods and that we're heading for an Apocalypse. Whether one agrees with the underlying neuropsychology of it all, it's hard to argue with the conclusion.

WTP

But I'm a bit concerned about it, what will it be like working with them? Taking orders from them? having them in political office? What will their generation of children be like?

I've had those same concerns for 20 years now.

As I said, we've known what the solution is since Pinochet.

What my end concerns were 20 years ago.

Pogonip

I’m skeptical of any All-Explaining Theory Of Everything, especially alt-right theories of sexual behavior; most of them (the theories, not the a/r’s) seem to come from mistaken conclusions mid-20th century researchers made about wolves. R/K selection doesn’t come from them, though; it’s a legitimate theory from legitimate biologists. It’s the idea that a species that spends little time on maternal care, such as some spiders, has to have a whole passel of younguns to keep the species going, since so many will die before reproducing. Whereas a species that spends lots of time on maternal care, such as elephants, can get away with as little as one baby every 2-3 years. From this, the a/r’s conclude that a welfare mom with a litter of kids by several different fathers is inferior to the rich folks who’ve been plotting to get the kid into Harvard from ten years before he was born, because r/K mumble mumble mumble. As you see, there are so many variables, plus the fact that Welfare Mom and Rich Bitch Mom are members of the same species, that r/K doesn’t apply. I can think of several arguments proving that Welfare Mom is inferior to Ritch Bitch Mom, and several arguments proving the reverse, but none of them have to do with r/K.

Whew. Let’s get back to butt-bleaching.

Pogonip

I meant “Let’s get back to laughing at butt-bleaching,” not “Let’s get back to bleaching our butts.”

David

I meant “Let’s get back to laughing at butt-bleaching,” not “Let’s get back to bleaching our butts.”

No do-overs. It’s there now, forever.

Ben
I meant “Let’s get back to laughing at butt-bleaching,” not “Let’s get back to bleaching our butts.”

Riiiiight.

Jeff Wood

Daniel wrote:

"There's an interesting theory over on the alt-right ("r/K selection") that claims that due to evolved reproduction strategies, human society inevitably goes through boom and bust periods and that we're heading for an Apocalypse."

I mentioned this here once before. The good Theoprastus disagreed, but in human affairs, it looks as if the theory has decent predictive value.

You can find the book by Anonymous Conservative on Amazon or at his publisher Castalia House, though for marketing reasons their link may take you up the Amazon again.

Our host has the Amazon widget.

Ben

Also, validity of r/K as applied to humans aside, my first thought was, "I've seen this movie."

Pogonip

I knew the Chez Deplorable crowd would get rowdy.

I guess “Well, butter my butt and call me a biscuit!” will have to be revised to “Well, bleach my butt and call me a nitwit!”

David

Henceforth, you shall be known as Pogonip Of The Gleaming Crevices™.

I’m having T-shirts made and everything.

Nikw211

A certain bad Penny has rolled around again but rather than the kind of grim amusement and contempt she usually provokes in me this time I just feel thoroughly demoralised.

In many ways it bears all the hallmarks her prose is known for.

There is the same kind of overcooked sentimentality and melodrama she usually peddles in (not to mention the squirm-inducingly incoherent mixed metaphors - see her dismal attempt at trying to suggest embryonic rage with the 'egg + claws' formula)

    Something broke, is breaking still. Not like a glass breaks or like a heart breaks, but like the shell of an egg breaks — inexorably, and from the inside. Something wet and angry is fighting its way out of the dark, and it has claws.

    A great many abusers and their allies have begged us to step back and examine the context in which they may or may not have sexually intimidated or physically threatened or forcibly penetrated one or several female irrelevances who have suddenly decided to tell the world their experiences as if they mattered.

There are the same kind of imbecilic attempts at clairvoyance:

    What happens when enough people stop believing that they ever wanted a world like this? What might happen to us as a society — hell, as a species — if enough of us begin to take consent seriously? What might happen if enough of us stood up together and refused to spend another second watching rich old white men do whatever the fuck they want to our bodies and call it freedom? Well, we might be about to find out. My guess is that it will be exhilarating, but first, it’ll be frightening as hell. Freedom always is.

And of course there is the same kind of spiteful menace and threat she tries to pepper her prose with:

    “Freedom” is just another word for being under the thumb of a powerful white man — for now.

But what makes this different this time - for me at any rate - is that it has really hit home - really this time - that there must be people out there who are paying her to write this anxious teenage doggerel and still others who are reading this shit.

By whatever criteria you could possibly use you cannot in good conscience deny that what she writes is shit.

And it's not even well-intentioned shit, but spiteful, vulgar, tasteless, overblown shit.

Yet no matter how shit it gets, she continues to get airtime, conference panel-time, speaking invitations, podcast time, column inches, and publishing deals as if it was anything but shit.

But it is shit. Utterly and completely shit.

Who on Earth could possibly read this shit and sincerely believe it has any worth of any kind to anyone?

In that same interview Daniel Ream mentions Dalrymple says of communist societies:

    When people are forced to remain silent when they are being told the most obvious lies, or even worse when they are forced to repeat the lies themselves, they lose once and for all their sense of probity. To assent to obvious lies is to co-operate with evil, and in some small way to become evil oneself.

What on Earth does this say about the probity of people who are not forced but instead willingly embrace that silence?

How can anyone read that shit? Or believe that she has anything of interest to say to anyone?

Adrian Mole's angst-ridden teenage diary was at least funny.

And fictional.

Rafi

Henceforth, you shall be known as Pogonip Of The Gleaming Crevices™.

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David

there must be people out there who are paying her to write this anxious teenage doggerel and still others who are reading this shit.

Yes, it’s a boggling thought. And yet, as you say, she’s not short of boosters or groupies, here and overseas. Which suggests that, however delinquent and ruinous her advice may be, and however unhinged her tirades, what she churns out must speak to the psychology of the ‘progressive’ demographic. A large chunk of it, at least.

I realise that’s probably not a comfort, but there we are.

Pogonip

It’s about time someone recognized my fundamental nobility.

Pogonip

“Something wet and angry is fighting its way out of the dark...”

Oh, crap, another pickled “egg” escaped.

Pogonip

She gets paid per word.

Black Ball

Time magazine has nailed their colours to the mast.
https://hotair.com/archives/2017/12/05/lets-kick-time-poty-list-around-bit-shall/

Pogonip

I didn’t know Time still existed; haven’t seen a copy in years, not even in a doctor’s office. In the checkout line magazine racks I see the “special editions” about various topics, but I thought the weekly magazine was long gone.

R. Sherman

Christine Keeler of l'affaire Profumo has passed. As a coda to Nik's link above, the movie Scandal about the incident was financed in the U.S. by the brothers Weinstein and Miramax. Evidently, Harvey was agitating for an "X" rating in the U.S. but ultimately settled for an "R."

Jonathan

What might happen if enough of us stood up together and refused to spend another second watching rich old white men do whatever the fuck they want to our bodies and call it freedom?

Rich old white men? Riiight.

John Conyers:

Harvey Weinstein:

Bill Cosby:

Matt Lauer:

Mark Halperin:

James Toback:

It's almost as if it's not old white men who're the guilty ones.....Nah, that's just crazy talk.

Pst314

“What might happen to us as a society — hell, as a species — if enough of us begin to take consent seriously”

Leftists would abandon leftism for political philosophies that value liberty.

Pogonip

Today, from U.S. Supreme Court Justice Anthony Kennedy:”I think your identity thing is just too facile.”

The man summed up all this “woke” nonsense in 9 words. He, unlike Laurie, is not paid by the word.

I waded through half her article, and as God and the henchlesbians are my witnesses, I could not extract whatever her ultimate point was. Maybe if I’d gone on to the end... As it was, all I clearly understood was: 1). “I hate white men [I hope her dad doesn’t read that article]”. 2). “I’m not thrilled with all you non-white guys either, but I’ll tolerate you when I’m in the mood for some dick, and you better be willing, ready, and able to service me 24/7.”

Nice lady, huh?

Spiny Norman

R. Sherman,

As a coda to Nik's link above, the movie Scandal about the incident was financed in the U.S. by the brothers Weinstein and Miramax.
Makes me wonder what Joanne Whalley and Bridget Fonda were subjected to in the "casting process". (-_-)

pst314,

"Deplorable Thompson"

Did you live just up the road from the Yokum family and Moonbeam McSwine?

Or her cousin the family doesn't like to talk about, Moonshine McJugs?

Spiny Norman

Nikw211,

By whatever criteria you could possibly use you cannot in good conscience deny that what she writes is shit.

And it's not even well-intentioned shit, but spiteful, vulgar, tasteless, overblown shit.

Yet no matter how shit it gets, she continues to get airtime, conference panel-time, speaking invitations, podcast time, column inches, and publishing deals as if it was anything but shit.

But it is shit. Utterly and completely shit.

I am of the belief that any competent coder could create a bot that could instantly churn out Penny Dreadful columns that would be indistinguishable from her own keyboard stomping; something similar to the Postmodernism Generator.

pst314

We don't talk about Moonshine McJugs.
But Stupifyin Jones asked me to remember her to you, David.

Darleen

Oh... now even washing human feces off the sidewalk is racist ...

The crime and smell of urine and excrement have gotten so bad outside a King County courthouse that two judges are scrambling to find ways to fix the situation, reports the Seattle Times.

King County councilmember Larry Gossett isn’t a fan of one solution to power wash the feces from the sidewalks to tamp down on the smell. Power washing the sidewalks is too reminiscent of civil rights activists being hosed down, he said.

I.can't.even.

David

Power washing the sidewalks is too reminiscent of civil rights activists being hosed down, he said.

I’m not sure which is the bigger indicator of cultural decline – the fact that a courthouse in a first-world city is being rendered unusable because of the risk of jurors being spat at and assaulted, combined with a round-the-clock stench of human excrement, or the fact that efforts to solve the latter issue – hosing human shit from the pavements – is deemed racially insensitive.

Pogonip

Sounds like King County is hosed.

David

there must be people out there who are paying her to write this anxious teenage doggerel and still others who are reading this shit.

Regarding Laurie’s bewildering career, in which she travels the world telling audiences how terribly oppressed she is, it’s perhaps worth rehashing some earlier comments on the subject.

Firstly, there’s the practical matter that Laurie’s output is quite prodigious, if only in the sense that there’s an awful lot of it. Related to which is the fact that she seems to have sudden and passionate opinions on practically any subject, for the most part unhindered by knowledge, consistency, or any trace of equivocation. It’s almost as if there’s a predetermined worldview that she can plug into and immediately get upset about, as if she’s always been secretly furious about whatever it is, even if said subject has never been mentioned before, and even if her current assertions are at odds with other assertions made weeks or days earlier. And I suppose that’s a skill.

And so we have someone anointed by Harvard University as a “leader in journalism” and who has no discernible interest in factual accuracy or establishing whether a premise is credible or not. And who shows no appetite whatsoever for the basics of the subjects on which she opinionates, leading to moments of inadvertent comedy, something close to surrealism. For instance, I suspect that few of us would be comfortable insisting, emphatically and in public, that high wages are easy to pay because it doesn’t matter whether your business is competitive or not. But Laurie is. And again, I suppose that’s a skill.

It’s also important to remember that Laurie tends to flatter her readership of credulous teenagers and arrested adolescents, on whose behalf she pretends to speak. If you consider Laurie’s key messages – the ones she repeats – it’s easy to see the appeal for a certain demographic. She tells her readers that they are wronged, oppressed, and endlessly entitled - and that drastic, even violent, measures are called for. Laurie’s readers must therefore be radical heroes, like her. Radical and brave. Their Clown Quarter degrees should be paid for by someone else, even if those degrees are obviously worthless. They should demand more of other people’s earnings because that’s what brave, heroic, radical people do, apparently. And being so brave and heroic, so unassailably righteous, they’re entitled to obstruct, threaten and intimidate, because those who disagree with them are evil right-wingers.

And if someone else’s stuff gets smashed, burned or ‘occupied’... well, that’s just too bad. In fact, according to Laurie, it isn’t even violence.

MC

Theodore Dalrymple's interview on political correctness

Excellent article. I did a proper cartoon double-take when I realised it was written in 2005.

Black Ball

http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/117/1921/1600/leunig.0.jpg
Not sure if the cartoon showed but the above reminded me of Leunig. This is one of his more shitty works, which is saying something because he is poor overall.

David

The spam filter’s being bolshie. If anyone has trouble with comments not appearing, email me and I’ll shake them free.

David

Always respect the media.

Charlie Suet

Rather amusingly, Spiked, once a mildly entertaining website that subsequently went full-SJW, seems to have laid a load of people off - ostensibly due to lack of popularity. It would be nice if ordinary people (as opposed to shitlords like us) slowly got pissed off with being preached at by various other outlets as well.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

It is almost as if they have something to hide.

Lindsay Shepherd‏ @NewWorldHominin

Prof of my CQ602 grad course just told me to put away my laptop in class. I pointed out we are allowed to have them to take notes as per the syllabus. After I pressed the issue, she said straight-up she doesn't want me to record her.

10:14 AM - 5 Dec 2017

Tom
...she said straight-up she doesn't want me to record her

As if it isn't possible to record a class with a phone placed on a desktop or in a pocket. I suppose it's nice to know that corrupt academics will be easy to dupe.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

As if it isn't possible to record a class with a phone placed on a desktop or in a pocket.

Lecture pen, don't go to class without it.

Tim Newman

there must be people out there who are paying her to write this anxious teenage doggerel

She's being paid, but not very much I suspect. From what I can tell from her Twitter feed, she lives in a dank basement studio apartment in Brighton: hardly the choice of someone pulling in the big bucks like Polly Toynbee does. And I've noticed she's appearing in more and more obscure journals. Recently she was in Wired, hardly the organ of choice for feminist SJWs, and she's not been in the Guardian for a while. Her most recent pieces, such as the one linked to here, have been published on Longreads which is pretty much a blog. And her pieces are becoming more rambling and more deranged. Her book seems to have done well, but how much money she made from it is questionable.

My guess is it's becoming harder and harder for someone like Penny to make a living reeling off boilerplate feminist outrage, and the amount people are willing to pay for such articles is plummeting. There are also a thousands other deranged women writing exactly the same articles, so it's not like Penny is providing a premium product. I suspect this is why she's shifted to Longreads - nobody else is interested in this rubbish. She has enough followers and fans that she could probably make money by making them subscribe to read her stuff, but there are two problems with this:

1. She'd be accused of selling out to capitalism.
2. Her readers strike me as the kind of people who steal the salt and pepper sachets at Little Chef.

David

Her readers strike me as the kind of people who steal the salt and pepper sachets at Little Chef.

Heh.

R. Sherman

@Darleen

Given your prior posted videos of homeless encampments in L.A. and this article via Drudge, I got a kick out of L.A.'s mayor blaming the Federal government for not providing more resources to solve Cali's problem. Of course, he ignores the Left Coast's idiotic, progressive (BIRM) housing policies which drive the cost of new construction and consequently rental prices into the stratosphere. Seattle, Portland and of course San Francisco/Silicon Valley have the same issues.

R. Sherman

Bugger. HTML fail because I got a damn phone call and hit "post" instead of "preview."

Mea Culpa.

Alice

Apparently, readers of the New York Times are expected to concern themselves with the violation of their borders by illegal aliens only insofar as illegal alien status is to be construed as excusing other criminal activity.

"92% of all aliens arrested by ICE this year had criminal convictions, pending criminal charges, were an immigration fugitive, or were an illegal reentrant"

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/282609/

SumDumGuy
Sounds like King County is hosed.

NOT IF KING COUNTY HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH IT!!!

Lancastrian Oik

“Well, butter my butt and call me a biscuit!”

There's a phrase that has been used before.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

Meanwhile, back in the world of art, the same people who think this is great, have their panties in a wad over a 1938 painting hanging in the Met.

It would be nice if these clowns could at least once be consistent.

PiperPaul

"being preached at by various other outlets as well"

As in sewer pipe or posterior body orifice, perhaps?

Boatswain's Mate

...[A]nd even if her current assertions are at odds with other assertions made weeks or days earlier.

Abbie Hoffman did that first, and did it better. He was a man who could contradict himself within seconds, but that was all part of his act. And the only people who would be confounded by it were those what actually tried to take him seriously. Hoffman played his antagonists like a Stradivarius with his shtick. And it was just all an act with him. As I said, he did it much better than Penny Dreadful, bless her heart.

David

Mea Culpa.

It’s a good thing I dug out the old chastising ottoman.

It’s best not to ask how it works.

pst314

David, where can we get one of those for our annual employee performance reviews?

R. Sherman

It’s a good thing I dug out the old chastising ottoman.

It's a good thing you had the fundraiser last week.

Tom
Abbie Hoffman did that first, and did it better.

He also wound up killing himself in a converted turkey coop (per Wikipedia), not a future I'd wish on even the dreadful Penny.

Boatswain's Mate

Oh, mercy, no. I think we'd all much rather her just be whomped upside the head with a clue-by-4.

R. Sherman

Chastising Ottomans.

Lancastrian Oik

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Ottoman being chastised.

Daniel Ream

I’m skeptical of any All-Explaining Theory Of Everything

I think there's some useful bits in it, and Anonymous Conservative's comments about the amygdala do dovetail nicely with my own observations of people with Complex PTSD. But yes, they do get rather reductionist about the whole thing.

Jonathan

Chastising Ottomans.

Vlad Tepes is best Ottoman chastiser:

Pogonip

A lot of these alt-right guys are young, and very unhappy about being smothered by bossy, masculine American women; since they’re young, those are the only American women they know about. So theories they think are likely to infuriate bossy, masculine American women find favor with those guys. As they mature they’ll probably come up with better ideas.

Governor Squid

It's not hard to draw equivalencies between the unhappy lads on the one side, and the hopeless harpies on the other. That being said, I definitely know which group I'd rather share a pitcher of beer with.

Pogonip

If the unhappy lads drink enough beer, they’ll be happy for a time!

There are probably happy feminists out there, but I’ve never met one.

Spiny Norman

Vlad Tepes is best Ottoman chastiser

Considering how diabolically cruel the Sultans were to their captives, mass impalement seems rather unimaginative.

BTW, nice Habsburg Lip ol' Vlad's got there.

Jonathan

There are probably happy feminists out there, but I’ve never met one.

To paraphrase P G Wodehouse: " It has never been difficult to tell the difference between a feminist and a ray of sunshine."

Charlie Suet

By Spiked, I meant Cracked. Oh well.

David

An educator speaks.

Note that while our fearless sociology lecturer won’t debate Ben Shapiro, he does like the idea of dislocating his arms.

Pogonip

I used to read Cracked till they crammed in even more ads; it became more trouble than it was worth.

I was once a feminist, until overwhelming evidence piled up that it just didn’t work. I refer here to modern feminism, not the earlier feminist movements addressing real problems. Modern feminism seemed to be making things worse, not better, for men and children as well as women. Also, once you’ve grown a baby from scratch, it becomes increasingly difficult to believe that they’re not human. So I decamped and eventually wound up here at Chez Deplorable.

I think modern feminism went wrong when the movement’s leaders put their weight behind no-fault divorce and abortion at whim. Not sure when Chez Deplorable went wrong; probably on that fateful day when David set out the pickled egg “jar.”

Pogonip

Oops. I meant, pickled “egg” jar. The jar is unquestionably a jar.

Jonathan

... he does like the idea of dislocating his arms.

Ben should deputise his friend Joe Rogan to take his place in the ring:

David

Ben should deputise his friend Joe Rogan to take his place in the ring

In a saner world, and whatever you make of Shapiro’s views on any given topic, claiming in class that he’s an “asshole white supremacist” whose arms should be dislocated, and that any students who wish to hear him speak or ask him questions are themselves “fascists” and “white supremacists,” should be an employment-jeopardising move.

In a saner world.

Black Ball

I could be wrong but isn't Shapiro well versed in wrestling and martial arts?

WTP

I could be wrong but isn't Shapiro well versed in wrestling and martial arts?

I wouldn’t know about that one way or the other. One thing that I would bet every last dime I had on, if it were so and Shapiro were to kick this clown’s teeth in, is that the response would be that such was simply proof of what a fascist Shapiro is. Kafka Trapping and Gaslighting are their reliable fall back tactics.

Taking these leftists on thinking you can argue via reason is folly from the start. This clown’s challenge is yet another example of that.

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