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January 05, 2018

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pst314

I denounce myself for commenting “First”. (Screams are heard as dragged off by henchlesbians)

Hal

Oh, right, it is Thursday, isn't it . . .

---Noting from this time zone . . .

“Black Man Super Bikini”

Beware of missing foot.

Cooking my dog.

Need white English teacher.

Daniel Ream

Need white English teacher.

In all fairness, native English speakers to tutor children and business people are in high demand over there, and Southeast Asia in general is a lot less squeamish about race.

Hal

. . . and Southeast Asia in general is a lot less squeamish about race.

Instead of someone who might or might not do the job but who does fit the current ideological whim, let us instead get someone who will get the job done.

Hal

. . . and Southeast Asia in general. . .

. . . and then again, in general, when having a more detailed look at that picture entry, . . . Found in Hong Kong.?????

I have read that since the British pulled out, there have been some interesting occurrences, but Hong Kong????

Hal

'k, while I do note the agreement about Winston Churchill, I rather expect that this is not what was meant.

sH2

Omnicopter.

https://laughingsquid.com/omnicopter-omni-directional-drone/

David

Harsh.

Joan

“Black Man Super Bikini”

It is a nice taste. :-)

David

It is a nice taste. :-)

I also appreciated the “women-friendly” noodles, and the Monster Priest Octopus Sausage. And of course the “Family Rope.” For those special evenings in.

TomJ

Winter sport: https://twitter.com/sarm0161/status/948830597899747328

Clam

I’m easing into the new year much as one might lower one’s buttocks into an overly warm bath.

I read your blog in the same way.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

Omnicopter.

Original omnicopter.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

“Black Man Super Bikini” and other sub-optimal translations.

Brought to you by the BBC.

David

Brought to you by the BBC.

Your license fee at work.

Elephants Gerald

"I found another use for the butt-paper."

"It's like your own private cloud"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAxElNM-Dmg

Farnsworth M Muldoon

Your license fee at work.

Indeed, on top of that are the questions of whether people who speak like that a) actually read the BBC website, or b) (he said denouncing himself, though it is a serious question) whether they can read at all.

Meanwhile, a day without the Clown Quarter is like a day without sunshine. Actually it is like a day without a root canal done with a hand drill and no novocaine, but I digress.

Today's mess, actually from a year ago, so if this has already been discussed I apologize, but I don't recall it, we have some friendly fire action, or more like an ouroboros, as one leftist faction takes out another as it appears faction A didn't like faction B using typical leftist tactics.

Other times it was from students confessing, purging and revealing themselves in response to a radical new way of being — something that the pedagogy required in the most unhealthy ways. The workload was also demanding and often pushed students beyond their means. I witnessed many deaths and rebirths while in that program, including my own...Terms from very important postcolonialist, anti-racist, socialist and feminist discourses were used as jargon to control, abuse and manipulate a group of idealistic and passionate change-makers who really cared. [italics original]...A climate of fear pervaded the program. Students policed each other, turning in anyone who betrayed the core doctrine or said anything even mildly critical about the professors. Dissent was not tolerated. The most loyal were rewarded with social status and unethical academic reward by the professors. The most disloyal would be subject to public interventions in class, yelling and shame from fellow students.

The whole thing is a minestrone hoagy of epic proportions and of equally overwrought prose. You may read all about the plucky author here, brave lad that he is, what with his work on decolonizing yoga (yeah, we have already done those jokes), and having, "...done graduate coursework in Postcolonial Anthropology and holds a Master of Divinity from Starr King School for the Ministry in the Unitarian Universalist tradition with emphases in women’s studies in religion, sacred dance, African-American religion and Buddhism."

Yes, the Starr King School for The Ministry. You may apply through this chap.

sk60

Sociology professor tries to do basic economics...

https://twitter.com/markantro/status/949124385524277254

PiperPaul

I wonder if sending Pallets of Cash to sociology professors would help.

champ

You may read all about the plucky author here, brave lad that he is

How violently rude of you to refer to zir as a "brave lad"

Governor Squid

Oh, and a reminder that snow makes people stupid.

People are stupid to begin with. Snow just makes it a little more obvious to the rest of us.

Mags

Monster Priest Octopus Sausage.

Band name.

pst314

Sociology professor tries to do basic economics...

This is the professor and her book:
https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/tle-pick/magic-money-tree-fact-two/26/06/

Pogonip

Why are SJWs such drama queens? A normal person would have written the Angana story as “ Professor was really a terrible teacher and mean to everybody as well. This was not what I paid for so I complained and kept going up the ladder, as did many others, until the college did something about her. They offered me free classes in expiation but by that time I wanted nothing to do with them. It all cost me $20K and in hindsight I see I should have dropped the class, or complained, or both, much earlier. I’m telling my story as advice and an example to others with similar problems.”

The brave lad’s story did make me see why SJWs are so obsessed with power. The teachers in Angry Studies seem to wield an inordinate amount of power over their students. I’m guessing this doesn’t happen in classes where the answer is either right or wrong. (I took Principles of Accounting I and Business Law I and everything was amiable and upfront.)

Hal

Brought to you by the BBC.

Your license fee at work.

Indeed, on top of that are the questions of whether people who speak like that a) actually read the BBC website, or b) (he said denouncing himself, though it is a serious question) whether they can read at all.

Overall, apparently, quite genuinely yes to all---especially the reading and writing bit . . .

---My first thought was a pidgin filter, but apparently that is indeed the actual page.

How do you go about writing down a language that is almost entirely oral? For the staff of the BBC World Service's new Pidgin news site, it all started with listening. Lots of listening.

Despite being spoken by an estimated 75 million people in Nigeria alone – and as a first language for five million people – Pidgin has, until this week, been marginalised online. "In terms of its text life it lives pretty much on social media," says Miriam Quansah, BBC's digital lead for Africa.

"Only" social media---sort of like blogs 'n' stuff.

"Only" 75 million speakers.

A few years back, the US population size hit a threshold. Saturday Night Live commented.

On Tuesday, the U.S. population hit 300 million. "Oh, that's so cute!" said China.
Spiny Norman

Farnsworth,

A climate of fear pervaded the program. Students policed each other, turning in anyone who betrayed the core doctrine or said anything even mildly critical about the professors. Dissent was not tolerated. The most loyal were rewarded with social status and unethical academic reward by the professors. The most disloyal would be subject to public interventions in class, yelling and shame from fellow students.

Ah, Leftist "struggle sessions" again.

Precisely why our kind host refers to them as "Mao-lings".

Hal

. . . as one leftist faction takes out another . . .

Oh, yes, CIIS.

Went there for a variety of mini conference about a year ago or so. Quite however, rather unlike the article description, the conference was one day of wall to wall discussions run by Loch Kelly, so everything was entirely benign and went very well.

I have little or no idea of the rest of CIIS, aside from very intermittently noting someone nearby taking classes or having taken classes . . . .

pst314

My first thought was a pidgin filter, but apparently that is indeed the actual page.

Fascinating.

Hal

I’m easing into the new year much as one might lower one’s buttocks into an overly warm bath.

Hal

Regarding Meltdown and Spectre, there is an an important announcement.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

...the conference was one day of wall to wall discussions run by Loch Kelly, so everything was entirely benign and went very well.

..Loch teaches in a non-sectarian human being lineage using an adult education style based in the earliest non-dual wisdom traditions, modern science and psychotherapy...Loch’s work is to help people access awakening as the next natural stage of human development.

"Benign", is an odd way to spell, "stark raving bonkers and nuttier than the annual Georgia pecan harvest".

Richard Cranium

Hmm. That does so much to explain Hal.

Hal

"Benign", is an odd way to spell, "stark raving bonkers and nuttier than the annual Georgia pecan harvest".

Ah, so you know nothing whatsoever of 'im.

---The reason he's been getting rather a bit of attention from people who ostensibly would be his "competition" is that the most they've been able to manage is knowledgeable hand waving. What he's managed is to treat the topic as a tech manual, basically stating to a roomful of people to note This, note That, note---Yes, that concept, and now metaphorically push that button . . . . and then feedback from the room is requested---not demanded, just requested, being an additional layer of Let us now actually test, instead of merely hope this works, let us now see if this experiment did actually work . . .

Certainly, as contrasted with the struggle session article, absolutely the opposite of screaming and rather suspicious coercion . . .

---There is one talk by Kelly---out of masses of similar material---that recently reminded me of someone I was working with awhile back. The coworker's comment one time was to the effect of I drink to make my brain shut up.

So, with that statement, my coworker is noting that he just is, and that there is thinking that goes on, but also that he is not the thinking, he is not the same thing as the brain. And then in parallel what Kelly is commenting on is to note that thinking occurs---yes, thinking is very, very useful and having it on hand is a really good idea, but thinking---also known as the chattering monkey mind---is different from what you are.

---Part of the concept is also to note that there is sound, smell, touch, sight, flavor . . . and thinking being considered as a sixth sense . . . where the ongoing issue is that you can close your eyes, plug your ears, pinch your nose, put that candy bar down . . . and then as you're doing it, the chattering keeps going, Oooh, I get it, I get it, the sight is blocked all the others are blocked, here I am with the other senses not doing anything, golly this is boring, I wonder what's online to look at, oh wait I'm doing this exercise . . .

So---as Kelly is commenting in that video---what happens if you just sit for a moment, where, yes, the mentally chattering monkey is chattering, but you are not the mental chattering, you are simply being aware of it, and so what happens if you, the one being aware, just sit for a moment?

David

I’m somewhat tempted to get one of these.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

Ah, so you know nothing whatsoever of 'im.

I can read his website, and I know woo when I see it.

What he's managed is to treat the topic as a tech manual, basically stating to a roomful of people to note This, note That, note---Yes, that concept, and now metaphorically push that button . . . . and then feedback from the room is requested---not demanded, just requested, being an additional layer of Let us now actually test, instead of merely hope this works, let us now see if this experiment did actually work...---Part of the concept is also to note that there is sound, smell, touch, sight, flavor . . . and thinking being considered as a sixth sense . . . where the ongoing issue is that you can close your eyes, plug your ears, pinch your nose, put that candy bar down . . . and then as you're doing it, the chattering keeps going, Oooh, I get it, I get it, the sight is blocked all the others are blocked, here I am with the other senses not doing anything, golly this is boring, I wonder what's online to look at, oh wait I'm doing this exercise...

Nuttier than all the fruitcakes in Claxton.

QED

Hal

QED

Exactly. Hopper's character recites woo. Now, when you actually go through Kelly's exercise, let us know what you have awareness of.

---Yes, as with my coworker, there is alcohol and whatnot else as an attempted substitute, but I hear that such does get expensive after awhile . . . !

Farnsworth M Muldoon

Now, when you actually go through Kelly's exercise, let us know what you have awareness of.

Much the same thing as I would have awareness of were I to go spelunking in the sewers of Cairo.

Pogonip

I have found the best way to deal with the monkey mind is to ignore it.

I have accepted that I will never be able to meditate on the mysteries of the rosary (or on anything else) while reciting the prayers aloud. I can do one or the other. I have tried a couple of the Zen techniques, which can be adapted to any religion, with no luck. I have concluded that I either have an exceptionally loud and determined monkey, or was born without whatever it is that makes you successful at meditation.

Richard

For what it's worth, the snow did not make people stupid. The lake effect snow comes in whiteout bands. When you drive into a snow band, visibility is instantly lost. When one tries to slow down, the black ice underneath the snow becomes apparent. Everything seems fine right up to the moment when you discover that you have no control at all.

The people who got out of their cars were taking a huge risk.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

For what it's worth, the snow did not make people stupid.

True enough, however people who live in snow prone areas and do not have actual snow tires on when snow is forecast, or even possible, are exceptionally stupid. The only ones more stupid are the ones with 4X4s who think that having a 4X4 will magic them out of or through the slop regardless of the tires they have on, especially if they have sipeless block tread mud tires.

Pogonip

I’ve got the “ all-weather” tires, which seem to work fine in these parts, where a big snow is 6-8 inches, but if I lived in, say, Chicago or Cleveland I’d probably get honest-to-God snow tires.

Fay

You may apply through this chap.

"Jeremiah is passionate about mysticism, spirituality, the(a)ology, philosophy, art, ecological justice, global decolonization, animal rights, refugee and aslyee advocacy, anti-racism, ecofeminism, sex worker advocacy, queer liberation, and intersectional, organic, multireligious, counter-oppressive frameworks of building a just, sustainable, and loving society. He frequently teaches, leads sacred ceremony, and organizes in the San Francisco Bay Area. In his free time, he loves trips to the Ocean Mother, surfing, rock climbing, camping, weight lifting, running, pilgrimages, ashtanga yoga, sacred tattoos and piercings, fashion and drag, and vegan cooking."

A well-rounded chap then.

Hal

Now, when you actually go through Kelly's exercise, let us know what you have awareness of.

Much the same thing as I would have awareness of were I to go spelunking in the sewers of Cairo.

Oh, dear---I haven't been in the sewers of Cairo m'self, but you do have my sympathies.

I have found the best way to deal with the monkey mind is to ignore it.

And that actually is the practice . . .

Kelly's commentary is that the human attention span is indeed really short, where pretty much an "experienced" awareness practitioner simply has a lot of experience dragging the awareness back away from the monkey. One of the relative catchphrases of his is marinate, marinate, marinate---do the basic awareness, go back to the awareness, go back to the awareness. Of course thinking is perfectly fine, when it's needed . . . .

Overall, or underall, as the case may be, drop into awareness---can you feel your feet at the moment?---and note just being aware instead of listening to the monkey. Then when the monkey inevitably announces Oh, Look! Squirrel!!!, uh huh, fine, what do the feet feel like at the moment, which the monkey can't comment on, drag the attention back, marinate, marinate, marinate.

What's entertaining is hearing an entire room of people going Nod, nod, nod---Oooooooohhhhhhh . . . 'k, you keep chattering, I'm going to stare at the ceiling for a bit,

---And then the more or less hands on practice is that yes, the ceiling will be fine without you staring at it, what you now need to test out is doing the awareness while also doing something like writing an email, tying your shoelaces, brushing your teeth . . . .

Pogonip

Whew. I got tired just reading the list of things he’s passionate about!

Hal

In his free time, he . . .

He has free time??!?!!??

R. Sherman

@Farnsworth

I've never not had a 4X4 since I've been able to buy my own vehicles and they've been quite handy during bad weather. Nonetheless, I agree with you about those who somehow believe they make one bullet-proof, especially on ice. The problem is that too many people believe that four wheel drive allows them to drive the same way they would during July. Thus, they are too fast, too abrupt at the steering column and too heavy on the brake. Plus, in these days of 42 speed automatic transmission with 10 overdrive gears, no one remembers the joy of downshifting into lower gears to slow one's vehicle without going into a succession of doughnuts.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

Herr Sherman - I've nothing against 4X4s and they are handy in foul weather - depending on the tires - I have one in the driveway, and the stock tires were rubbish in the wet, let alone snow or ice. Years ago, OTOH, I found myself against my will way north of the Line of Mason and Dixon, but with a sports car with real snow and ice rated tires (no studs) on all four corners my rate limiting step was ground clearance, but other than that, got around better than a 4X4 with block tread tires.

The thing is with ice (and packed snow) it is not the ice that is slippery so much as the thin layer of water between the tire and the ice. The sipes on a proper snow and ice tire essentially squeegee that away, a block tread won't. The compound of proper snow and ice tires also remains more pliable and grippy at low temperatures than ordinary tires. The snow and ice rated tires were so good that when our slightly deranged club did autocrosses on frozen lakes, some of us put summer tires back on so we could get sideways when we wanted.

Kelly's commentary is that the human attention span is indeed really short...

That may be true for navel gazers taken in by make believe swamis and other new age snake oil salesmen, but he should probably stick to speaking for himself and the like minded.

Hal

. . . . but he should probably stick to speaking for himself and the like minded.

Exactly.

Quite as noted, as far as attention spans, he is speaking for and of you and the like minded.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

Exactly.

Yes, exactly; "like minded" referring to Kelly, apparently you, and the rest of the followers of fake swamis and assorted new age flummery. In the future I will be more blatant so you will not keep missing the points.

R. Sherman

Yes, exactly

If this were a movie about the American West and this scene were in a saloon of some sort, we've reached the point where I would be making the following determinations:

1. Fists or firearms?

2. If firearms, am I in the line of fire if someone's aim is off?

3. If so, should I fold this hand and casually make my way to a different table?

4. If not, are any of the other sumbitches at my table going to try to take advantage of the kerfuffle and steal my chips?

5. If so, should I just shoot him/them now and call it a day?

6. If not, should how should I bet with three sevens and an ace?

7. In all cases, should I order another drink?

Pogonip

Well, I for one have a great attention span, with ferocious concen—

Hey, look! An owl!

Pogonip

Farnsworth seems grumpier than usual. Is this a perverse New Year’s resolution?

Also, what of the blowtorch?

Farnsworth M Muldoon

7. In all cases, should I order another drink?

Always the best COA.

Farnsworth seems grumpier than usual.

Nonsense, I am even tempered - always mad.

Pogonip

Following Farnsworth’s resolution example, this year I resolve to:

—gain 5 pounds
—drink more Coke Zero
—get up later
—become a couch potato
—not improve myself in any way

I think I can keep all these resolutions.

Hal

In the future I will be more blatant so you will not keep missing the points.

Oy. Except, as is getting noted, the only point getting missed is quite deliberately by you.
All which I've pointed out is easily assessed, in the moment, with results which one can quickly report back---yes, over keyboard, but oh well.

However, instead of dispassionately considering the material, assessing what is noted, seeing for yourself what result turns up---something about scientific method comes to mind, granting methodological quibbling---, you have instead insisted on giving us a first rate demonstration of hand waving and obfuscation.

As Pogonip noted, Farnsworth seems grumpier than usual.

Lessee . . . fake swamis and assorted new age flummery

Well, as none have been cited, except by you, yes, typical obfuscation.

Hal

Following Farnsworth’s resolution example, this year I resolve to:

—gain 5 pounds

According to the current numbers, at this moment, that should easily get achieved with about seven bucks . . .

Spiny Norman

Farnsworth,

In the future I will be more blatant so you will not keep missing the points.

Are you assuming it's unintentional?

Daniel Ream

Why are SJWs such drama queens?

Many of them are deeply damaged people with poor emotional self-regulation, attracted to the social justice ideology as a form of dysfunctional coping mechanism.

And some of them are just pretentious wankers.

a reminder that snow makes people stupid

I live in Canada, where we are somewhat famed for copious amounts of snow, and yet every year at the turning of the solstice we must be treated to the spectacle of people apparently blissfully unaware of, say, the last forty years frozen water fell from the sky my God it's the apocalypse.

I think my favorite story in this vein was watching an Ottawa Transit bus turn a corner, fishtail like an American muscle car driven by an aging John Schneider, and avoid wiping out a bus shelter full of huddled, terrified transitgoers only by virtue of the four-foot berm of ice and snow left in front of it by the snowplow.

I sincerely hope the berm factored into the bus driver's calculations.

Darleen

[checks in to read comments ... sees on going discussion of snow-related freakouts ... recalls today was 74°F with the same tomorrow ... starts backing towards door]

Farnsworth M Muldoon

Are you assuming it's unintentional?

I try to give him the benefit of the doubt.

Well, as none have been cited...

Other than the CIIS itself and Kelly himself whose woo I quoted, but as you have evidently been so transfixed by him that you can't, or won't, look past the veneer, lets us look deeper, and not just at the fact that as a social worker he keeps banging on about being a "psychotherapist" which, though accurate only in the broadest and vaguest definitions of "psychotherapy", is a tell for someone trying to conflate a lesser skill set with that of a clinical psychologist or psychiatrist. Think of it in the same way as PhDs in Angry and Useless Studies demanding to be called "Doctor".

[Kelly]...was invited to teach direct realization by Adyashanti.

Adyashanti, AKA Steven Gray. "Adyashanti, like his teacher, has invited several of his students to "share the Dharma", which means independently teach to other students." So Kelly did what everyone else did, but hey Gray was on Oprah, and if that isn't a credential, nothing is.

[Kelly]...studied extensively with Mingyur Rinpoche...

[Mingyur Rinpoche] "He has authored two best-selling books and oversees the Tergar Meditation Community, a global network of Buddhist meditation centers." At least this guy is a real Tibetan, but apparently yet another jet-set monk living large in the west.

[From Kelly's blog]...Here are some words of wisdom and compassion to contemplate from Matthieu Ricard...

You can read all about M. Ricard here and aside from wondering why he threw away his top shelf education as a molecular geneticist, marvel at the asceticism of him banging away at his macbook at the World Economic Forum in the manner of all "monks".

Regarding the blog, go read it where you can find Deep Thoughts™ like:

Open-hearted awareness begins with awareness of awareness. It is an essence approach, also called the direct approach. The open-hearted awareness approach focuses on uncovering or discovering our essential nature and then shifting our level of mind to live from open-hearted awareness.

Right. "I've been to one world fair, a picnic, and a rodeo, and that's the stupidest thing I ever heard come over a set of earphones."

The fact is this pseudo-Eastern twaddle has been around since the 50s and 60s when people started reading Kerouac, dropping acid, and the Beatles courted Maharishi Mahesh. If you need it to get through the day, well, bless your heart, but don't expect those of us seen 50+ years of all the rehashed and repackaged iterations of this flummery to buy the latest version either.

PiperPaul

We all need more Awareness-Raising of awareness of awareness.

R. Sherman

I'll just leave this here. Note the large sample size from which grand conclusions are drawn and educational mandates are given.

WTP

Speaking of Churchilll (ahem....I know I’m late on this) but is the movie good? Didn’t care for the trailer(s) and I have a high political correctness sensitivity. Especially regarding WWII history and more especially regarding the very few historical figures that I admire (like three or something).

David

I’ll just leave this here.

See today’s ‘elsewhere’ post. Best to point comments that way, I think.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

Note the large sample size...

Also note that both assistant professors are professors of education, and we know what academic percentile from which they come.

According to the professors, these masculine norms include “asking good questions,” “capacity for abstract thought and rational thought processes,” “motivation,”...

Heaven forfend we have "capacity for abstract thought and rational thought processes" in STEM, that is practically diabolical.

Hal

Other than the CIIS itself . . . .

My dear boy, 50+ or no, it's nice of you to go woolgathering through the assorted websites, However.
Your textual hand waving fails again. Period.

You even actually quote some of those "big words" that you keep also flinching away from, I'll help you with that too.

---Now, I definitely will grant that you may have met hipsters who did exactly what you are doing, where They know they're big words, and they know they're "impo'tant" 'cause they've all heard [various and assorted] use them, but in practice, it's obvious they have no idea what they mean.

For that sort of reaction to such random recitation, I quite absolutely agree with you, ignore the hipsters, they're hipsters.

So, to be more blatant so you will not keep missing the points; As stated before,

---There is one talk by Kelly---out of masses of similar material---that recently reminded me of someone I was working with awhile back. The coworker's comment one time was to the effect of I drink to make my brain shut up.

So, with that statement, my coworker is noting that he just is, and that there is thinking that goes on, but also that he is not the thinking, he is not the same thing as the brain. And then in parallel what Kelly is commenting on is to note that thinking occurs---yes, thinking is very, very useful and having it on hand is a really good idea, but thinking---also known as the chattering monkey mind---is different from what you are.

As a presentational rephrase, that link is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEXng_GsrFM. That link is not any of your preferred websites of general introductory commentary, that link is an example of Something You Can Test Yourself---but you actually have to do that test instead of running off in denial.

Of that test, I have zero idea of what your reaction will be, what results you'll get, if you may genuinely wind up with I got nothing . . . but that uncertainty is part of observing results and reporting 'em . . .

For stuff you cite without reading:

Open-hearted awareness begins with awareness of awareness. It is an essence approach, also called the direct approach. The open-hearted awareness approach focuses on uncovering or discovering our essential nature and then shifting our level of mind to live from open-hearted awareness.

When your tooth hurts, you are aware of the pain of the tooth, that is not thinking. When you step on something slippery, speaking of ice, you have awareness that you might now fall over, you don't start thinking that Oh, look, something slippery, I'd better start thinking about doing something with balance. When you get hungry, your stomach reacts to the lack of recent food, and you then have the awareness and only then do you start thinking Oh, now I'm hungry. The chattering monkey just chatters, but that is just thinking running amok instead of being useful. And as it chatters, you are aware that there is that train of thought that just keeps going in your head . . . and you are aware that you don't have some voice in your head, you are aware that Oh. that's just thinking that I do, where again, the I is separate from the thinking.

As Pogonip chimed in, I have found the best way to deal with the monkey mind is to ignore it. She is not the monkey mind, she is aware that the train of thought is not the person being aware of that train of thought.

You are attempting to dodge with The fact is this pseudo-Eastern twaddle has been around since the 50s and 60s when . . . when hipsters were being hipsters and still are, and we are not discussing merely 50 to 70 years ago, the concept(s) being discussed go back at least plus or minus 2,500 years. Granting that with hipsters, For you will always have the hipster among you., hipsters just don't have that longevity . . .

I did note in passing that you cited . . ..Loch teaches in a non-sectarian human being lineage using an adult education style based in the earliest non-dual wisdom traditions, modern science and psychotherapy...

Yes. Non sectarian, for just one part of that. If you actually look at that video instead of running away screaming, there aren't any comments on lineage, tradition, Be Impressed By Me. The point is and remains look at what is presented and test it yourself, instead of attempting to reply with mere blind, enraged, pointless denial.

You read and contribute here, you know better than that.

What is at that link is instead is a discussion of what people encounter every day. ---Quoting Pogonip again,

Well, I for one have a great attention span, with ferocious concen—

Hey, look! An owl!

If you want to claim that you have seen Kelly's commentary before and it fails, then you are also going to cite names, dates, references. You are going to give us something more than the rehashed and repackaged iterations of this flummery that you keep wildly waving at us instead of actually looking, instead of actually reading, instead of being aware.

Expecting hipsters to back up empty words is an excellent idea, and is also expected of you.

Here: You're Not the Voices in Your Head

Instead of posting random website quotes that you haven't really read, report your experience of that.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

Look, Hal, as I said, I have been trying to give you the benefit of the doubt as to your being an honest broker. However, it is obvious you have a lot of emotional, and probably financial, resources tied up in this new age mysticism, and if it helps you through the day, swell, but I think this is probably not the best place to be looking for converts, and, regarding it all there is, in fact, something of which I am aware.

Hal

Farnsworth; . . . it is obvious you have a lot of emotional, and probably financial, resources tied up in . . . screaming vehement denials.

You have been outright handed an opportunity to go to one short video, to take each comment by Kelly and tear it apart, by using his own video, using his own words, and you have, so far, completely failed.

. . . but I think this is probably not the best place to be looking for converts,

Ah, but no one is looking for converts. I point out something that can be tested by direct experience in mere minutes, and you recoil in denial.

Expecting hipsters to back up empty words is an excellent idea, and is also expected of you.

Here: You're Not the Voices in Your Head

Instead of posting random website quotes that you haven't really read, report your experience of that.

. . . something of which I am aware.

Regarding the totally unrelated video that you are attempting to deflect with, I do commend the musician.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

...to take each comment by Kelly and tear it apart, by using his own video...

Oh, you were serious about that mess. A couple minutes of silence punctuated by a verbal salamagundi that makes less sense than, but is on the same pseudo-intellectual (that we think in voices, wow; I haven't heard such profundity since having to deal with stoners) level as, Dennis Hopper in the "Apocalypse Now" clip. Hopper was a much better actor, though.

Regarding the totally unrelated video...

My apologies, I had mistakenly given you credit for knowing some common American colloquialisms and that you would have gotten the jape.

PiperPaul

I'm curious about https://thecuria.com/ Is it just a bunch of essays? Does it have some overall purpose?

Hal

. . . . A couple minutes of silence punctuated by a verbal salamagundi. . .

Uh huh, now consider what Kelly is saying, rather than what people are saying to him. The people reacting are just people reacting.

I had mistakenly given you credit for knowing some common American colloquialisms

Oh, the title of the video. Well as I'm pointing out, you have to actually dispassionately assess material before you can accurately make any claim of quality . . .

Hal

I'm curious about https://thecuria.com/

Assorted essays.

Think of an idea or note an observation, type it up, post, have on hand for reference as needed. Have the reference sections on hand for related recommendations.

As noted at the top, Watcher Point is the site for more or less doing the same with movie and media related Stuff.

Daniel Ream

Well, this got tedious quickly.

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