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January 08, 2018

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Mags

“I don’t want to commit to any sort of definition.”

How convenient.

David

How convenient.

It does allow for a certain elasticity of definition and keeps wide open the range of people who may be denounced and harassed. As illustrated by the exchange, around 1:25, when the interviewer suggests that it’s a little odd to slander people, vehemently, as “Nazis” and “fascists” if, when pressed, you can’t even define those terms. At which point, the student being interviewed announces that the interviewer and his cameraman are obviously Nazis and fascists.

Lab Rat

...when the interviewer suggests that it’s a little odd to slander people, vehemently, as “Nazis” and “fascists” if, when pressed, you can’t even define those terms. At which point, the student being interviewed announces that the interviewer and his cameraman are obviously Nazis and fascists.

Well, of course.

Sam Duncan

Heh. Also at Campus Reform,

A prominent Antifa activist has been ordered to pay $11,100 in attorney fees to the former president of the Berkeley College Republicans for filing a frivolous restraining order against him.
[T]he press release notes that Felarca, whom it identifies as a Berkeley Middle School teacher, was arrested twice in 2017 for incitement of a riot, resisting arrest, and assaulting a police officer

I seem to recall most of my teachers at that age being officers in the Combined Cadet Force, or running the Duke of Edinburgh's Award Scheme. But I'm sure the city of Berkeley knows what it's doing.

David

Well, of course.

Aside from the fact that knowing what words mean would be restricting and inconvenient, there’s also the air of protest-as-recreation, as a social activity, in which specifics – like whether someone actually deserves the appellation ‘Nazi’ - don’t seem to matter much. As exemplified by the gormless grinning youth in the white T-shirt, who looks like his E is about to kick in.

R. Sherman

The video demonstrates that these lunatics are engaged in nothing more than 1960s cosplay. They are demonstration re-enactors down to the bad hygiene and pot-fueled incoherence.

Spiny Norman

At which point, the student being interviewed announces that the interviewer and his cameraman are obviously Nazis and fascists.

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Spiny Norman

Sam,

I seem to recall most of my teachers at that age being officers in the Combined Cadet Force, or running the Duke of Edinburgh's Award Scheme. But I'm sure the city of Berkeley knows what it's doing.

Of course they do, just ask Hal. (>_<)

pst314

there’s also the air of protest-as-recreation

They're hoping to eventually be able to enjoy other recreational activities, such as sending people to gulags and liquidating those who resist indoctrination.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

They are channeling their inner Quincy Adams Wagstaff:

I don't know what they have to say
It makes no difference anyway
Whatever it is, I'm against it
No matter what it is
Or who commenced it
I'm against it

Your proposition may be good
But let's have one thing understood
Whatever it is, I'm against it
And even when you've changed it
Or condensed it
I'm against it

Spiny Norman

...other recreational activities, such as sending people to gulags and liquidating those who resist indoctrination.

If Billy Ayres, Bernadine Dorne, and the rest of their Weather Underground pals were any indication, much the same as in the 1960s. In their manifesto, Prairie Fire, they off-handedly estimated that 25 million of their fellow Americans would need to be "liquidated".

Boatswain's Mate

In being unable to define what they think is "fascism," they seem to very unintelligently fall back on the now-shopworn cliché of "I know it when I see it."

(And the late Justice Potter Stewart has to be doing 1,000 RPMs in his grave because of it. See Jacobellis v. Ohio, 378 U.S. 184, 197 (1964) (Potter, J., concurring)).

Boatswain's Mate

Muldoon, you left this line out (although I know it didn't work for your purposes):

For months before my son was born,
I used to scream from night til morn,
"Whatever it is, im against it."
And I've been yelling since I first commenced it,
I'm against it!

David

Then there’s the chap who claims to be spreading “a message of compassion and justice” by smearing anyone insufficiently leftwing as a “Nazi.”

Boatswain's Mate

As exemplified by the gormless grinning youth in the white T-shirt, who looks like his E is about to kick in.

"'Eezer Goode 'Eezer Goode He's Ebeneezer Goode!"

https://g.co/kgs/aEZZdr

pst314

If Billy Ayres, Bernadine Dorne, and the rest of their Weather Underground pals were any indication, much the same as in the 1960s.

Nearly all Progressives strongly deny any such interest in gulags and mass killings, but their denials are fatally contradicted by their support for Ayers and Dohrne and similar people.

Hal

But I'm sure the city of Berkeley knows what it's doing.

Of course they do, just ask Hal. (>_<)

Thank yew, thank yew, yera wunnerful audience, enjoy the wait staff and remember to tip the buffet . . .

. . . and I have no idea on the Berkeley School staffing, not my area of exposure.

At the very least, of Berkeley as the general aggregate mass, I would state that everything remains entirely as discussed a bit back . . .

. . . the average Berkeley reaction to left wing loonies---and right wing loonies---by an average Berkeley resident is pretty much Oh, look, there's a news chopper holding position over Thataway, so something's going on at This moment.

Fine, wasn't going thataway anyway at--again--This moment, so I'm going back to the errand run, reading the current book, having dinner, whatever . . . .

David

“‘Eezer Goode ‘Eezer Goode He’s Ebeneezer Goode!”

There are some memories I’m trying to repress.

tkdkerry

Surely I'm not the only one drawing comparisons with Al Capp's S.W.I.N.E. ( Students Wildly Indignant about Nearly Everything ).

Lab Rat

Aside from the fact that knowing what words mean would be restricting and inconvenient, there’s also the air of protest-as-recreation, as a social activity...

This. And the self-righteous satisfaction and feeling of power that comes along with this social activity, this mob action. They are sort of drunk on that, aren't they.

David

Blimey. There are foxes shagging on the lawn.

Daniel Ream

I'm sure the city of Berkeley knows what it's doing.

Felarca teaches at some kind of private or QUANGO school, so she's exempt from the usual scrutiny. On the other hand, there exists copious video of Felarca committing violent felony assault on innocent bystanders while the police stand by and watch.

She should be in jail several times over by now.

champ

Incoherent nincompoops...

Pogonip

“...foxes shagging on the lawn.”

Spring’s on the way! In these parts, squirrels will start breeding in a week or two.

Cats, like Daylight Savings Time, seem to be working their way towards all year round. The last time we heard a female in heat was around Thanksgiving (late November) and I just heard the first one of the season; a little early, if she’s bred today the kittens will be born in early-mid March, but not freakishly so. Cats in heat in late November—now THAT used to be freakish.

I’m sure it’s all caused by global warming.

champ

I’m sure it’s all caused by global warming.

"Bitter Cold Is “Exactly What We Should Expect” From Global Warming, Says Al Gore"

https://www.thenewamerican.com/tech/environment/item/27893-bitter-cold-is-exactly-what-we-should-expect-from-global-warming-says-al-gore

Farnsworth M Muldoon

I’m sure it’s all caused by global warming.

Iranian protests may have been caused by climate change - it is science !

Climate change - It's a floor wax, and a dessert topping as well.

champ

Climate change - It's a floor wax, and a dessert topping as well.

Scientific American started going downhill in the late eighties, accelerated in the nineties, and became unreadable in the 2000's...

WTP

Climate change...this was a laugh...

So much extra water is being added into the world’s oceans from melting glaciers that the ocean floor is sinking underneath its increasing weight. This ocean floor deformation also means we have miscalculated just how much ocean levels are rising and the problem could be far worse than previously believed.

Over the past 20 years, ocean basins have sunk an average of 0.004 inches per year. This means that the ocean is 0.08 inches deeper than it was two decades ago. While this small fragment of an inch may not seem much, oceans cover 70 percent of our planet, making the problem bigger than it seems at an initial glance.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/ocean-floor-sinking-under-water-130002572.html

On a positive note, the comments were all derogatory when I read this this morning.

Nate Whilk

I may have posted this here before, but it's evergreen.

Orwell, "Politics and the English Language" (1946): 'The word Fascism has now no meaning except in so far as it signifies "something not desirable". ... Words of this kind are often used in a consciously dishonest way. That is, the person who uses them has his own private definition, but allows his hearer to think he means something quite different.'

PiperPaul

"engaged in nothing more than 1960s cosplay"

Hoffer's The True Believer:

"The followers of a mass movement see themselves on the march with drums beating and colors flying.
They are participators in a soul-stirring drama played to a vast audience—generations gone and generations yet to come. They are made to feel that they are not their real selves but actors playing a role, and their doings a “performance,” rather than as the real thing"

So if you're only "playing a role", there's not much need to feel embarrassed or shame about your behavior. Reminds me of the debates between Vidal and Buckley where apparently Vidal thought it was all just a great big joke and entertainment for the audience.

http://evelynbrooks.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/The_True_Believer_-_Eric_Hoffer.pdf

R. Sherman

Over the past 20 years, ocean basins have sunk an average of 0.004 inches per year.

Really? Not 0.0035 or 0.00427? What's the margin of error on those measurements?

I do so enjoy such impossibly accurate and precisely small measurements of objects which are (relatively) impossibly large. Such tripe making it into print is only possible when you have an ignorant audience.

TomJ

The honest protester:
Look, it's quite simple:I am anti-fascist so it follows with an elegant simplicity that anything I am anti, or is anti me, must be fascist and fair game for violent resistance. Now stop asking annoying questions before I decide you're anti me.

Geezer

Quincy Adams Wagstaff

Darleen

Yes. Yes, he is.

You argue:

Social Justice Warriors are defenders of free speech.
SJWs are engaging in Socratic "dialectic" to exposes logical weaknesses.

And you invoke Evergreen as an example.

Are you out of your mind? https://t.co/SZ4sj7usLA

— Bret Weinstein (@BretWeinstein) January 10, 2018

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