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March 20, 2018

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MC

Reading samples of the guff produced by those fraudulent wordy morons has made me approximately 15% more racist than I was this morning. That is perhaps the only measurable outcome of the careers of oxygen thieves like Matias and Le.

David

Well, you have to wonder what these posturing clowns make of all the “of Colour” students who cope perfectly well with course material and go on to become “of Colour” scientists and researchers. Are they “deculturalized,” “colonised” and somehow inauthentic? By being competent and successful, have they somehow been “invalidated”?

Joan

you have to wonder what these posturing clowns make of all the “of Colour” students who cope perfectly well with course material and go on to become “of Colour” scientists and researchers. Are they “deculturalized,” “colonised” and somehow inauthentic?

Remind me again who the racists are.

David

Remind me again who the racists are.

Well, quite.

According to Matias and Le, “our science is out of touch with the experiences of our students of Colour and, instead, represents post-colonial discourses of White power and control.”

I can’t help thinking that our exquisitely woke lecturers should widen their circle to include some competent students. The ones whose grades speak for themselves and who don’t feel a need to hide behind self-flattering conspiracy theories and other “post-colonial” claptrap. And again, it’s odd that the authors of this pernicious woo invoke “other ways of knowing,” as if some aboriginal folk wisdom would instantly overturn the world of semiconductor design, but without actually specifying what those “other ways of knowing” might be, or why they might be more effective than the methodologies currently in use.

pst314

scholars

One is a research and teaching assistant in the Biology Department, while the other is an assistant professor in the Education Department.

From the school directory (addresses omitted):

Le, Paul
RESEARCH ASSISTANT
TEACHING ASSISTANT
Departments
Biology - (RESEARCH ASSISTANT)
Denver Campus - Student

Matias, Cheryl
ASST PROFESSOR
ASSOCIATE PROFESSOR
Departments
School of Educ and Human Devel - (ASST PROFESSOR)

Hector Drummond, Vile Novelist

This explains why, when I paint myself brown, I can fly.

David

scholars

Yes, that word is doing some very heavy lifting.

David

Given the scholarship above, it’s strange that all this “white,” and therefore racist, “science knowledge” is so widely and successfully assimilated and developed, to the advantage of millions of people with skin darker than mine. Such that those not-entirely-white people in China and South Korea, for instance, are designing and manufacturing the phones that millions of us are using. Presumably, the people at Samsung feel terribly oppressed and “invalidated” when we hand over our money.

But hey, I’m sure a smartphone processor breakthrough based on indigenous healing dances is just around the corner.

pst314

Yes, that word is doing some very heavy lifting.

Education departments are notoriously filled with fools and frauds. "Research Assistant" can mean "bottle washer no smarter than the Education professors". One of the notorious purveyors of crackpot Afrocentric theories of science was touted as some sort of scholar but in reality was one of those ilk--lab safety gofer if I recall.

David

Education departments are notoriously filled with fools and frauds.

As noted recently, departments of Education and Angry Studies attract students with some of the lowest SAT scores, while offering by far the most generous grading.

That these tend to be hotbeds of woke theorising is, I’m sure, entirely coincidental.

Jonathan

This way of knowing science in the absence of other ways of knowing only furthers whiteness and White supremacy through power and control of science knowledge

tl;dr

Science is hard.

ComputerLabRat

Research Assistant, in the US at least, usually means grad student, fwiw. PhD students, sometimes Masters. That was my official title the whole time I was in grad school.

And I'm sorry, but the law of gravity applies to all objects, living or not, regardless of melanin content. Idiots. The Laws of Physics don't care WHAT you look like. They exist and apply regardless if there are even any humans on the planet to harness them.

How many more bridges and buildings need to fall before someone finds enough balls to call this stuff out for the idiocy that it is? The Angry Studies side of campus can huff and puff and produce this BS all they want, but on the science and engineering side, crap like this could have dangerous consequences!

Jonathan

Sadly, however, and despite the assertions above, the aboriginal alternatives to Maxwell’s equations and commutative algebra remain oddly unspecified.

Pshaw! Top Aboriginal Scientists are working on far more advanced problems than puny European minds can comprehend:

David

It also goes without saying that if the proponents of this horseshit had an IT issue or a serious health problem, they wouldn’t willingly rely on the “ways of knowing” traditionally favoured by, say, the Nlaka’pamux people, whose technical and medical expertise, while free of “whiteness,” was somewhat limited.

Sort-Of-Mad Max

You might feel better about this tripe if you read Cheryl E. Matias' webpage at the University of Colorado, Denver.

She's completely insane. But she's up for you to email her and get to know her in person.

Over a soy latte.

Really.

But be warned; she quotes the wisdom of the late lamented rapper Tupak Shakur where somebody else might drop a meaty wedge of Goethe. Because she's all urban and edgy and stuff;

http://www.ucdenver.edu/academics/colleges/SchoolOfEducation/FacultyandResearch/Pages/CherylMatias.aspx

Associate Professor of Urban Education. As if the kids in some free-fire inner-city hellhole skrewl don't have enough problems in life, they're gonna be saddled with credentialed idiots fluffed up by Prof. Matias providing what will be called an 'education' with a straight face.

Daniel Ream

Such that those not-entirely-white people in China and South Korea, for instance, are designing and manufacturing the phones that millions of us are using.

Um.

I used to work in the industry.

The actual design work is almost always done in North America. Manufacturing is outsourced to the factories in China, where consistency and QA is abysmal (but cheap). Companies that outsource design usually end up rehoming it just to fix the problems - in fact, that was my former employer's core business, redesigning consumer electronics projects that had an unacceptably high failure rate.

David

Um.

I was thinking of phones designed in South Korea and manufactured in (among other places) China. Hence the reference to Samsung.

Governor Squid

...but without actually specifying what those “other ways of knowing” might be, or why they might be more effective than the methodologies currently in use.

This was what popped out at me. I sincerely hope some Real Scientists call these two out for this baseless nonsense, forcing them to do some actual damn science showing evidence for their assertions.

Provide proof that "other ways of knowing" produce results equal to or better than the poisoned-by-whiteness scientific method as practiced by today's scientists. Call up your friends at the University of Wakanda or Jumanji Technical Institute, and let's compare methodology and results.

The really frustrating thing for me is that these people are so thick, they'll insist that the well-earned mockery and derision heading their way is just a defense mechanism on the part of white folk, because we're so very delicate. Perhaps we'd be better served just to reply "There's no arguing against logic like yours," because you can rest assured that "not even wrong" will go right over their heads.

pst314

I was thinking of phones designed in South Korea

South Korean companies are designing and manufacturing very good quality automobiles and appliances.

Y. Knott

"Instead, all people of pallor must denounce themselves as oppressors and “reimagine what science education spaces can look like.”

- Ahhhh, no. No we don't.

MC

it’s strange that all this “white,” and therefore racist, “science knowledge” is so widely and successfully assimilated and developed, to the advantage of millions of people with skin darker than mine. Such that those not-entirely-white people in China and South Korea, for instance, are designing and manufacturing the phones that millions of us are using.

And also following on from comments relating to this...

I live in Asia and it constantly amazes me that Yank wackydemics pretend that science, hard work etc are the oppressive values of systematic whiteness. I don't think they really understand that the rest of the world is a real thing. They ought to go to Tokyo and see what civilisation really looks like.

Certainly low build quality and patent fraud are rife in China, but there are a lot of smart companies brewing there. Silicon Valley and similar areas elsewhere in the West are still tremendously technologically creative places, but China is catching up. Luckily for the West, the dead hand of the CCP does a good job of stifling enterprise.

David

If anyone has trouble with comments not appearing, email me and I’ll jiggle the spam filter.

David

I don’t think they really understand that the rest of the world is a real thing.

They’re basically in the business of peddling racial cartoons. I don’t think realism would suit their purposes.

Adam

The cool thing about this whiteness theory is that it is exempt from the scientific method, because white supremacy.

Steve E

Somewhat Related

Well that's it right there. Everybody in the room thought it was hilarious when someone said you can't call lightening down from the sky. There was no prompting. It was spontaneous and from everyone in the camera shot. There's no hope for those people. They've bought into voodoo and mumbo jumbo.

Then mama grey dreds stands up and castigates someone for expressing an opinion by explaining to him that the rules exist so everyone can express an opinion. Talk about a kafkatrap.

Adam

Where are the research papers from the Zimbabwe Centre for Advanced Studies? Have all their technical geniuses been recruited by the white Europeans and Americans?

Governor Squid

Not so much recruited, as seduced into the Heart of Whiteness. May the gods have mercy on their poor bewhited souls...

pst314

Certainly low build quality and patent fraud are rife in China, but there are a lot of smart companies brewing there.

My understanding is that low build quality is a product of dishonesty, not stupidity.

pst314

The cool thing about this whiteness theory is that it is exempt from the scientific method, because white supremacy.

Such theories are tempting to all sorts of defective minds: Assert that something pleasing is true, and then invent reasons why evidence for that truth cannot be produced. Racial pride, fraud, etc.

pst314

(or why evidence pulled out of one's butt should be accepted)

David

In the “White Devil Science” post linked above, I said,

I sometimes wonder if the Clown Quarter of academia might actually be a massive and rather perverse behavioural experiment, the point of which is to see just how credulous and mentally deformable human beings are.

The Clown Quarter certainly offers a lesson in how quickly and widely standards can fall, such that the ‘scholars’ above aren’t laughed out of every room they enter.

Trevor

One of the notorious purveyors of crackpot Afrocentric theories of science was touted as some sort of scholar but in reality was one of those ilk--lab safety gofer if I recall.

Surely you can't be attempting to sully the name of that renowned Melanin Scholar, Hunter Havlin Adams, III?

TheTooner

http://www.ucdenver.edu/academics/colleges/SchoolOfEducation/FacultyandResearch/Pages/CherylMatias.aspx

If the picture at that link is of Cheryl Matias, she looks white to me. Why doesn't that disqualify the results of her study?

Spiny Norman

My understanding is that low build quality is a product of dishonesty, not stupidity.

Yep. I once read an article (Popular Mechanics?) that explained how this comes about: the Chinese manufacturer produces a prototype that meets the (say, American) customer's specifications, but once production begins, corners are cut, cut again, and cut some more, without the customer noticing (because they aren't really paying attention, and certainly not doing any QC checks). Nothing gets done about the truly sub-standard products until the American company's customers begin complaining.

(This is why the original engine mounts on my Acura Legend lasted 14 years, while the Chinese-made replacements didn't even last a year.)

Spiny Norman

Surely you can't be attempting to sully the name of that renowned Melanin Scholar, Hunter Havlin Adams, III?

Oddly enough, Hunter Havlin Adams, III's theories aren't really that much more ridiculous than those of W.E.B. Du Bois, who is considered a "great scholar".

pst314

Oddly enough, Hunter Havlin Adams, III's theories aren't really that much more ridiculous than those of W.E.B. Du Bois, who is considered a "great scholar".

Details please? I wonder if I have forgotten or didn't read enough Du Bois to discover this.

ComputerLabRat

I sometimes wonder if the Clown Quarter of academia might actually be a massive and rather perverse behavioural experiment, the point of which is to see just how credulous and mentally deformable human beings are.

The Clown Quarter certainly offers a lesson in how quickly and widely standards can fall, such that the ‘scholars’ above aren’t laughed out of every room they enter.

This.

There seems to be very real fear that lives and livelihoods can be ruined simply by mere whiffs of accusation of racism, etc, such that any laughter generated by such fools is hurriedly stifled. These SJW activist types appear to have the more sensible folk by the short and curlies.

Theo Brown

I would agree 100 percent with this report if it in any way resembled what this article actually said. Upon reading the study, however, I must disagree. While the authors are clearly SJW, they in no way claim that physics relies on skin color or that math is oppressive. They are writing about science education and the way that racist (white) norms effect the way that students of color are treated. As a woman, I, too, recall professors who were shocked and surprised that I didn't need any one to help me with my calculus homework, who assumed that I wasn't going to stay in the field, and who found my ethical concerns "hysterical." That's what they are talking about, not actual science.

That said, they come off as being pretty "hysterical" themselves.

Spiny Norman

Details please? I wonder if I have forgotten or didn't read enough Du Bois to discover this.

W.E.B. Du Bois is the original source of the "out of Africa" theory of civilization, claiming that the ancient Egyptians were black sub-Saharan Africans, and that ALL western technology, arts and philosophy were "stolen" from black Africans. Which is why the "widely respected" Revrund Al Sharpton could say this with a straight face:

"We built pyramids before Donald Trump even knew what architecture was. We taught philosophy and astrology [sic] and mathematics before Socrates and them Greek homos ever got around to it.

Du Bois' work as a genuinely tireless civil rights activist is an entirely different subject from his odd-ball theories of history.

(*Which is one reason why this Encyclopedia of the Negro - later Encyclopedia Africana - project never got off the ground, because the philanthropists who'd pledged to fund it backed out when they saw what he'd planned to include.)

Trevor

...Cheryl Matias...

In her bio she tell us she "... enjoys spending time with my young boy-girl twins." Normally I'd whitely assume this means she has a son and a daughter, but who knows?

Spiny Norman

whitely assume

[ snort ]

Chester Draws

They are writing about science education and the way that racist (white) norms effect the way that students of color are treated.

I get sick of this "people of colour" shit. The authors mean people of African descent.

Asians etc suffer no disadvantage in science education (actually the reverse, people tend to over-credit them with "natural" ability).

A lot of Arabs are opposed to modern science because they regard it as irreligious -- but those ones don't blame White people from holding them back. The rest of them tend to over-assert the Arab origins of science.

Given the massive influx of Latin Americans into the US, I'm not buying anyone who alleges that they are put off by the current system's "Whiteness". They feel discriminated against because they so badly want to get into the system.

That leaves people of African descent. They are the only ones affected by the "White" norms. Others manage. They, apparently, cannot.

David

While the authors are clearly SJW, they in no way claim that physics relies on skin color or that math is oppressive.

They do, though, seem determined to have us believe that the norms of modern science education are a form of “white ideology” and “represent post-colonial discourses of white power and control,” and that the customary reliance on notions of objectivity, replication and peer review merely facilitate the “spread” of this “whiteness ideology.” Which apparently, and in ways far from clear or convincing, is biased against minority students, who are, we’re told, “deculturalized” and “invalidated” as a result, and whose melanin levels somehow grant them “other ways of knowing.”

Which, again, suggests rather dogmatic and obnoxious assumptions of the part of the authors, who themselves seem eager to racially essentialise minority students, to render them exotic and mysterious, as if they were akin to leprechauns, and to conflate skin colour with insight, some secret knowledge. Which sounds a tad racist. As I said a while ago, it’s rather like turning to one of your students and saying, “You, the brown boy. What’s the negro perspective on this engineering problem?”

And so I suppose the extent to which one might find the authors’ claims absurd or disagreeable depends in part on one’s appetite for racial essentialism and racial condescension. As you might have gathered, I think it’s pernicious hokum, and insulting – firstly, to any number of educators, who are construed as tools of “white supremacy,” and whose efforts to be fair regardless of race are dismissed, perversely, as racist. And secondly, it seems insulting to any competent science student who happens to have brown skin.

Karen M

forcing the internalization of Western science knowledge.”

This is called teaching. It's why the students are there.

David

This is called teaching. It’s why the students are there.

Heh. Yes, you’d think that internalising Western science knowledge would help them pass science exams and find science-related jobs. In the West.

tolkein

In what world is Cheryl Mathias coloured?

David

Even the term “Western science knowledge” is loaded, hokey and inapt. Regardless of who originated what, and regardless of what shade of brown or pink they were, “Western” science knowledge is global and often collaborative across continents. It is science knowledge.

David

In what world is Cheryl Mathias coloured?

She’s of Filipino descent. Which is now, apparently, a “social justice” credential.

jen

Instalanche!

David

Instalanche!

Fetch the good towels. And coasters, lots of coasters.

pst314

They are writing about science education and the way that racist (white) norms effect the way that students of color are treated

Bull. Professors who treat dark-skinned students poorly are very rare.

pst314

That leaves people of African descent. They are the only ones affected by the "White" norms. Others manage. They, apparently, cannot.

And, from the reports I've read, it's mostly American-born people of African descent, who are marinated in a culture of victimhood and resentment.

Rob Crawford

Colorado. Legal pot.

I think that is at the root of this more than anything else.

David

And don’t forget this somewhat related item.

Because standards of diligence and proficiency are, we’re told, racist and oppressive, mere tools of “privilege,” and therefore unfair to women and minorities, for whom rigour and competence are presumably impossible.

Daniel Ream

I was thinking of phones designed in South Korea and manufactured in (among other places) China.

They aren't designed in South Korea.

Most of the core components (like the radios, or the SoC that runs the whole phone) that actually matter are designed in North America or Europe (by offices that often include large quantities of Asian engineers, so this isn't a racial thing) by the American subsidiaries of these, or by third-party companies like Texas Instruments, Marvell, and Motorola. Some design work, like the bodies and the main board, may be done in Asia.

And Korean car manufacturers make good cars because they poached a ton of Japanese quality engineers. Prior to that event, Korean cars were poor quality.

low build quality is a product of dishonesty, not stupidity.

Well, it depends on how you define stupidity. Certainly many of these Chinese factories could outcompete their competitors on quality if they chose; there seems to be a lot of tribalism and short-sighted immediacy to a lot of the corruption. They're not operating under anything like an open and fair economic system, either, so that may explain their choices.

Arkadiy

"You gon' be like, "Damn! A rose grew from the concrete?!"
Same thing with me, y'knahmean?"


AKA

"The thing about a bear riding a bicycle is not that she rides well but that she rides at all"

lotocoti

It is science knowledge.

But not if it's not on Worldstar.

pst314

Fetch the good towels. And coasters, lots of coasters.

And extra Hamster Chow for the rodents that power the server.

David

There seems to be very real fear that lives and livelihoods can be ruined simply by mere whiffs of accusation of racism, etc... These SJW activist types appear to have the more sensible folk by the short and curlies.

It’s another example of the shakedown mentality, currently in fashion among pinheads. It’s racial spite in academic drag. The idea that black, Hispanic and indigenous students, who are often beneficiaries of racial favouritism in admissions, are somehow the victims of elaborate and systemic racial injury in class, including the alleged harm of being exposed to “white” science teaching, is risible. Likewise, the conceit that teaching basic physics is a form of “control over people of Colour,” whose “other ways of knowing” are being “invalidated,” tells us next to nothing about the world. But it does tell us quite a bit about the kind of person who peddles such claptrap.

David

They aren’t designed in South Korea.

Ah, I didn’t know that. Still, the broader point remains. To regard “Western science knowledge” as some oppressive and parochial subset of scientific enquiry is faintly silly.

jabrwok

"The thing about a bear riding a bicycle is not that she rides well but that she rides at all"

She?

sH2

"Related"

https://www.campusreform.org/?ID=10661

Lancastrian Oik

Meanwhile, I'm unsure as to whether or not this is a spoof of Elfwickian proportions.

[+]

And so I suppose the extent to which one might find the authors’ claims absurd or disagreeable depends in part on one’s appetite for racial essentialism and racial condescension.

That.

David

That.

Well, Dr Matias insists that “colourblind” teaching – which is to say, treating students fairly, as individuals, rather than tribally, as racial mascots – is itself somehow “racist” and must be done away with. Apparently, we must have different rules for different groups, based on how brown they are. She also claims that white teachers cannot “effectively teach urban students of colour” unless they first “deconstruct,” and reject, their own “hegemonic whiteness,” which makes them racist by default, and then begin “sharing the burden of race.”

Again, the conceit is that “urban students of colour” are incomprehensible creatures, alien and mysterious, and not subject to normal proprieties; and that in order to impart even rudimentary information one must first disavow one’s own values and standards, which other, paler students are nonetheless expected to meet. This, apparently, is “social justice.”

The logical terminus of this mindset is not a happy one.

Squires

I sometimes wonder if the Clown Quarter of academia might actually be a massive and rather perverse behavioural experiment, the point of which is to see just how credulous and mentally deformable human beings are.

It's an abusive relationship, so yes. The core of it is to answer the abuser's compulsion: How much can I bend this person into an ornament for my own ego?

And, unfortunately, psychological disease can be contagious.

David

It’s an abusive relationship, so yes… And, unfortunately, psychological disease can be contagious.

And that’s the thing. “Social justice” ideology isn’t just riddled with errors, dishonesties and evasions; it’s, as it were, encoded with pathology.

ComputerLabRat

Because standards of diligence and proficiency are, we’re told, racist and oppressive, mere tools of “privilege,” and therefore unfair to women and minorities, for whom rigour and competence are presumably impossible.

This!!

The article linked, describing the engineering education/diversity classes/division/department established within the College of Engineering disturbed me greatly when I initially read it.

When the FIU bridge collapsed after they touted all the Female Specialness of the company involved in building it/managing the project, then the "move along nothing to see here" scrubbing of all that and the walkbacks of that one female engineer's participation - all that and this article seem related somehow. Maybe I am just cynical.

Call me crazy, but regardless of how anyone feels about rigor, civil engineering would seem to be one of the few places where it is absolutely necessary, if you want the structures built to ... I dunno - stay up!

[shrugs]

But what do I know.

PiperPaul

"psychological disease can be contagious"

And what better way to spread them than via an anonymous (mostly, for those technologically adept), almost instant worldwide communications system that includes thousands of people seeking attention and wanting to impress their adopted special interest group?

MC

Meanwhile, I'm unsure as to whether or not this is a spoof of Elfwickian proportions.

I have no idea. This far down the rabbit hole parody is understatement.

David

MC,

For reasons I can’t fathom, the spam filter has taken exception to you. If more comments get intercepted, email me and I’ll plead on your behalf and make offerings. Puppies should do it.

H

forcing the internalization of Western science knowledge.”

As opposed to....?

She knows Wakanda isn't real, right?

David

She knows Wakanda isn’t real, right?

It’s off to the correction booth for you, my lad.

pst314

She knows Wakanda isn’t real, right?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wauconda,_Illinois

jay

Regarding the FIU bridge, the unfortunate thing (besides some of the terribly unfair generalizations coming out of it) is that the system is really the problem. Governments (in the interest of 'diversity') give all sorts of goodie points to the bidding advantage of minority and female owned businesses and distorts the natural process of bidding and validation. I have worked with vendors who expect special consideration because of the genetics of their workers.

Which means that engineers who happen to be female or minority, but are working side by side with men in the conventional business world are actually at a disadvantage.

tolkein

tsk, tsk

Surely Filipina, at least or, more correctly, Filipinx

David

I denounce myself.

Spiny Norman

I denounce myself.

postimg.org

David

I’ve rigged it to play the hits of the Eighties.

jabrwok

I’ve rigged it to play the hits of the Eighties.

Spiny Norman

Fiends, both of you!

WTP

Puppies should do it.

You know, you keep throwing puppies at this problem and yet it persists...Might I suggest switching to kittens? Just a suggestion...

pst314

Yes, why is that, David? Does Glenn Reynolds give you a discount on his smoothie supplies?

Ted S., Catskill Mtns., NY, USA

She knows Wakanda isn’t real, right?

Wait until she reads What Chinese people allegedly think about Black Panther.

Jonathan

Wait until she reads What Chinese people allegedly think about Black Panther.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

Chinese simply don't care about black peoples delicate feelings:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtsa0MT2H4I

Arkadiy

She?

"But the gentlemen will not expect too much from Flora; she is a female bear, and – ’ He whispered in the gendarme’s ear. ‘Ah, ah? Just so,’ said the gendarme."

MC

Chinese simply don't care about black peoples delicate feelings

"You were governed by a European country for so long. You should have learned how things work."

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