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May 13, 2018

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Rafi

the violent logic of whiteness

Sigh.

David

Sigh.

Yes, it’s wearying. Imagine being the kind of person who, while watching the campy, trashy fun of the Eurovision Song Contest, decides to publicly assert their wokeness by regurgitating some convoluted reason to find it problematic.

Jen

Fame at last.

David

Fame at last.

[ Cordons off Jen’s table with a VIP rope. ]

PiperPaul

You go, girl!

No - I mean you go, girl (points towards SJW deprogramming clinic).

Jen

[ Cordons off Jen’s table with a VIP rope. ]

*puts on sunglasses*

Farnsworth M Muldoon

It appears the concept of researching something before spouting off is as alien to this dolt as it is to her sister as this apparent Aussie informs her:

Acrid Apricot ‏ @stewedapes 2h2 hours ago

Replying to @eleanorkpenny

So far, we've sent two indigenous Australians, a Korean Australian, and a Malaysian Australian. Embarrassingly white, I know. Additionally, I wouldn't describe a song contest that was brought into being to prevent great power conflict as employing "violent logic".

Oh well, it looks like the sisters Penny accounted for two seats on the short bus.

David

It appears the concept of researching something before spouting off is as alien to this dolt as it is to her sister

Well, this is someone who thinks “the violent logic of whiteness” is a thing. And not only a thing, but a thing that makes her sound clever.

David

Previously.

Today’s word is character.

Captain Nemo

Eleanor Penny. Once again giving inadvertent evidence in support of my theory that "social justice feminism" is really the abolition of good manners in disguise.

Captain Nemo

Also: Eleanor Penny, by the way, is not only an editor for Red Pepper, but also a senior editor for Novara Media.

Quelle surprise. Imagine my shock.

David

my theory that “social justice feminism” is really the abolition of good manners in disguise.

As the archives here testify, it does seem to attract a high concentration of unlovely people. More than chance alone would seem to allow.

Smallish Bees

Remind me to take my antidepressant before I read anything written by one of the Penny sisters.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

Remind me to take my antidepressant before I read anything written by one of the Penny sisters.

OTOH, if you want to make it seem as if it makes sense, something hallucinogenic might be in order.

Para Ingles Oprime Dos

Socialist feminism is the reason men had to create the Patriarchy in the first place - to clear space for sanity and reason to take hold.

I denounce myself.

R. Sherman

Given that Europe is an "imaginary community . . . sustained by the violent logic of whiteness," I assume Eleanor campaigned and voted for Brexit.

MC

I confess I do like the phrase "violent logic of whiteness". I'm not sure if the full phrase or just "Violent Logic" would be my preferred band name.

It's a bit like a lyric from an Oasis song, in that it sounds like it ought to mean something but really doesn't.

Catherine Spaak

...imaginary community ... violent logic of whiteness...

https://takimag.com/article/laughing_about_white_genocide_jim_goad/print

Belching out the sort of logic-defying, obfuscatory nonsense that has been a hallmark of their flailing attempts at discourse for generations now, Ciccariello-Maher’s supporters claimed since there’s no such thing as “white people,” there could not possibly be anything such as “white genocide.” Mind you, these are the same dolts who openly gloat that “White America Is Dying,” citing demographic trends they insist are inevitable.

I prefer the culture that created Brigitte Bardot to the culture that's killing off Brigitte Bardot.

Squires

Here I thought the whole point of being a younger sibling was the opportunity to learn from your elder's mistakes. Penny II presumably witnessed the unhappiness and loud-rattling void of her sister's life then nonetheless chose a battlecry of, "Hold my cosmo!"

bgates

Imagine being the kind of person who, while watching the campy, trashy fun of the Eurovision Song Contest, decides to publicly assert their wokeness by regurgitating some convoluted reason to find it problematic.

What could be more campy and trashy than complaining about whiteness while watching Eurovision?

a song contest that was brought into being to prevent great power conflict

and sure enough there hasn't been one, the entire time Eurovision has existed. Well done!

jmav

Since she's listed as @eleanorkpenny, perhaps from this day forward she should be referred to as eleanork.

Connor

My brother used to work for a German bank. Was he "sustaining the violent logic of whiteness"...?

Steve E

I thought "violent logic of whiteness" was a band playing at Eurovision.

StitchJones

https://www.indy100.com/article/eurovision-song-contest-cultural-appropriation-racism-asia-israel-netta-barzilai-8349271
The winner of Eurovision is being accused of cultural appropriation.

Imagine my surprise.

David

What could be more campy and trashy than complaining about whiteness while watching Eurovision?

Heh.

Hal

Since she's listed as @eleanorkpenny, perhaps from this day forward she should be referred to as eleanork.

Or...Perdita. She could go back to trying Perdita. She’d been embarrassed out of using that name in Lancre. It was a mysterious name, hinting of darkness and intrigue and, incidentally, of someone who was quite thin. She’d even given herself a middle initial—X—which stood for “someone who has a cool and exciting middle initial.”

It hadn’t worked. Lancre people were depressingly resistant to cool. She had just been known as
“that Agnes who calls herself Perditax.”

---Terry Pratchett, Maskerade.

David

My brother used to work for a German bank. Was he “sustaining the violent logic of whiteness”...?

As these allegedly diabolical institutions - the ones “sustaining the violent logic of whiteness” - aren’t actually specified, I’m assuming they include everything from post offices to the Chelsea Flower Show. To ensure the widest possible spread of all that lovely pretentious guilt, which both sisters wish to propagate.

What with white people sucking as a “collective social condition.”

And “every white person” being “personally complicit” in racism.

What, you didn’t know?

ComputerLabRat

But they're white. And I presume they're what y'all call middle class, which I think means they came from fairly well-off parents, and aren't struggling paycheck to paycheck themselves. So they're white and slathered in that stuff they call White Privilege.

So why haven't they donated everything they have to their friendly local PoC and offed themselves in an suitably eco-friendly way? It's a zero-sum game, after all, so less of them means more for PoC, yes?

I know, I know - off to the Scold-O-Matic 3000 with my sorry carcass.

Spiny Norman
So they're white and slathered in that stuff they call White Privilege.

So why haven't they donated everything they have to their friendly local PoC and offed themselves in an suitably eco-friendly way?

The Penny Sisters see themselves somewhat differently:

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Chester Draws

Europe is an imagined community. Every nation and super-nation is.

Narnia is an imaginary community.

Steve E

Apologies MC. I must try to keep up. Didn't see that you had made the band name reference already. I need to lay off the wild camel fat and picked eggs.

David

Did someone say hump fat?

In entirely unrelated news, the gents are closed for… maintenance.

Tim Newman

I wonder if the Penny sisters’ podcast is still going. Dear lord I listened to one and half epidodes of that before deciding it wasn’t worth it even as a source of blogging fodder. Two empty-headed adolescents giggling at one another for an hour. Maybe I should check back, I was always hoping they’d do a show where they list all the rapists they’re friends with.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

Apologies for the diversion, but your garbage take of the day.

Is Jordan Peterson Enabling Jew Hatred ?

Jordan Peterson is a public intellectual adored by neo-Nazis, white supremacists and conspiracy theorists...“His audience is without a doubt a large chunk of people in the ‘alt-right,’ and that’s the kind of signaling that would appeal to them,” said Heidi Beirich, the director of the Intelligence Project at the Southern Poverty Law Center.

Oh, well, the SPLC, (AKA The Shame of Alabama), where anyone to the right of Marx is "Alt-Right", there is an unimpeachable source.

Spiny Norman

The SPLC may once have had a noble purpose; nowadays it's Morris Dees' personal hate machine.

Pogonip

Laurie also has a mother, the poor woman. Happy Mother’s Day to her, regardless, and to all other mothers.

Jeff Wood

I read recently that the SPLC has reserves amounting to half a billion dollars. I wondered where they got it from.

Pogonip

Elderly white liberals scared that the rest of us white people may show up at their doors with pitchforks and torches.

Hal

The secret of happiness?

Farnsworth M Muldoon

Completely off topic, but too good a bit of tin foil hattery not to share - the evil that is Monster Energy Drinks...

Daniel Ream

Everything Laurie and her sister says can be simply translated to "I HATE YOU DAD/PAY ATTENTION TO MEEEEEEEE"

randian

Abba is part of the "violent logic of whiteness"?

dan

Much of my family are Mizrahi Jews in Israel who were originally kicked out of Arab countries. They look like Arabs, they cook like Arabs and they can speak Arabic. My understanding is that DNA genealogy shows little difference between them and the Iraqi or Yemeni societies they came from. I love the way "white" doesn't actually mean "white" when it's convenient for it..not to.

Squires

who were originally kicked out of Arab countries.

Most products of modern education would have never heard so much as a peep regarding the percentage of Israeli Jews who are refugees, or the offspring of refugees, from the Lands of Diversity and Peace.

Sam Duncan

“I'm not sure if the full phrase or just "Violent Logic" would be my preferred band name.”

It ocurred to me the other day that “Problematic” would make a great album title.

“Since she's listed as @eleanorkpenny, perhaps from this day forward she should be referred to as eleanork.”

I assumed Nork was her middle name.

“What with white people sucking as a 'collective social condition.'”

An oldie, but a goodie.

“I love the way "white" doesn't actually mean "white" when it's convenient for it..not to.”

There was a conversation in the comments at Instapundit about this recently. People descended from Spaniards are “Latin” and therefore not “white”. But actual Spaniards are “white”. As are the original Latins - Italians - and their descendants. For some reason.

One might almost get the impression they're making this up as they go along, to suit some agenda or other.

Chester Draws

Few "Latin" Americans are descended from Spaniards to any significant extent. The number of peninsulares who went to the Americas was very small (and almost entirely to men). You walk around the Yucatan and you don't get the impression that any Spaniards made it at all.

Central Mexico City is pretty "white", but the ethnic component of most of Mexico is overwhelmingly Indian. And Mexico was the country that got the most Spaniards. Further south you get more blacks mixed in, of course. Bolivia and Paraguay are almost entirely Indian.

You get a false impression watching TV and political figures, both of which are ridiculously over-represented by European looking people. I was impressed in my visit in Mexico just how racially unrepresentative their TV is.

The "Spanish" component of Latin America extends to language and, to a certain extent, religion. That's about it really. The Americans fought off the Spanish and Portuguese at the first opportunity and like it that way.

I reckon it is perfectly correct that the Latin American are not "European" in any meaningful way.

Stinking Badges

One might almost get the impression they're making this up as they go along, to suit some agenda or other.

https://www.unz.com/isteve/junot-diaz-was-pulitzer-prize-board-chairman/

These mixed Latinos are awful confused. They are fallen imperialists. They conquered so much and subjugated so many people. But they mixed with the people they conquered and enslaved. So, whites and those with lighter skin cling to their privilege in their own domains. They prefer being white or light than dark or black. Also, Spain, once the greatest power in Europe, became one of the poorest and most backward.

But in the US, they feel a double layer of resentment: As inferior whites and as non-whites.

As Latin whites, they feel inferior to Anglos or gringos who did so much more. They feel swarthy and tainted. Also, if they’d counted as white or light in Latin America, they stick out as non-white when they move to the US. Latinos are people who want to look white and be with whites but count as non-white.

So, they accuse white Americans of ‘racism’. But they are plenty ‘racist’ against darker-skinned people in Latin America. They accuse white Americans of what they themselves are ‘guilty’ of in Latin America and far more blatantly. Because they feel this ‘insult’ — even when white Americans show no hostility to them — , they tend to identify with non-whites than whites. Most Hispanic whites pretend they’re People of Color. But deep down inside, they know Latin America is a place where people want to be white as possible.

W Krebs

In entirely unrelated news, the gents are closed for… maintenance.

So that's why the two guys in the hazmat suits are here....

W Krebs

@sam duncan

One might almost get the impression they're making this up as they go along, to suit some agenda or other.

It's the same logic that allows you to discriminate against asians in college admissions, but then turn around and bully a white girl who wears a Chinese style prom dress.

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