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September 10, 2018

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John D

We're becoming a joke.

Bloke in North Dorset

I'm reminded of a story my father told me many moons ago about Fred Truman, which is probably apocryphal.

Playing in a far away country where umpires weren't renowned for being disinterested and objective he'd had a number of LBW appeals turned down. Eventually, in frustration he turned to the umpire and said ".. you cheating black bastard" quick as a falsh he continued " and if you'd been white I'd have called you a cheating white bastard..."

David

We’re becoming a joke.

It seems to me a bad idea for a nation’s police force to actively invite derision and a consequent loss of faith.

And yet, here we are.

Steve

I hate courgettes but please don't grass me up

Adam

What about side-eye glances? Those can be hurtful. Sarcasm, double entendre, and irony should be looked into. The UK is full of it. I blame Shakespeare.

The police will be so busy investigating non-crime that they will have no time to stop ignoring knife attacks,ramming of pedestrians, and gang rapes.

Theophrastus

So South Yorkshire Police have learned nowt! Fear of being hatey resulted in them ignoring rapey behaviour by local adherents of the Religion of Peace. What else will their anti-hate ideology lead them to overlook?

R. Sherman

If one intended to destroy all faith in the government's ability to protect the populace from bad guys, what would one do differently?

Mags

Good to know the police can waste police time.

MC

I'm thinking of moving to South Yorkshire. Apparently all crime there has ceased, forcing the police to find other ways of occupying their time.

MC

Non-British readers might not realise that South Yorkshire is where the police farce failed - for more than a decade - to address child rape and exploitation on a scale that would be shocking if it happened in an African war zone.

David

I’m thinking of moving to South Yorkshire. Apparently all crime there has ceased, forcing the police to find other ways of occupying their time.

Hold that thought:

Violent crime has soared in South Yorkshire by a staggering 62 per cent in the last year, the highest rise in the country, according to new figures released by the Office for National Statistics… The force also saw a 46 per cent increase in robbery and a 58 per cent rise in domestic burglary - with an overall 34 per cent rise in the total number of crimes, excluding fraud, which was second from highest in the country.

Oh, and South Yorkshire’s police force has repeatedly been ranked by HMIC as one of the least satisfactory in the country, often cropping up in the bottom five.

But hey, at least they’re tackling all those insulting online comments.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

Report non-crime to the peelers ?

In addition to reporting hate crime, please report non-crime hate incidents, which can include things like offensive or insulting comments, online, in person or in writing.

WTF, over.*

*(N.B. Yorkshire 5-0: that is pure curiosity, not a thing like offensive or insulting comments, online, in person or in writing.)

David

Apparently, “hate incidents,” i.e., badmouthing on Twitter, “can feel like crimes.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

Violent crime has soared in South Yorkshire by a staggering 62 per cent in the last year...

To be fair, if I was a South Yorkshire cop armed only with a day-glo yellow vest, a can of pepper spray and a glorified car antenna, going after the mean tweeters would appear to be a preferable assignment over going after the stabby and shooty types.*

*(N.B. Yorkshire 5-0: that is just an observation from a 'Murkan, not a thing like offensive or insulting comments, online, in person or in writing.)

David

And so far as I can see, none of the officers involved in publicly mouthing this woo seem concerned by its implications, or by its general flatulence, or by the overwhelmingly negative feedback from the people they supposedly serve. If an “incident” isn’t a crime, even by the standards of “hate crime” legislation, then how will it “not be tolerated” by South Yorkshire Police?

I wonder, do police officers have any inkling of how much damage is being done to their standing among the public?

R. Sherman

N.B. Yorkshire 5-0 . . .

Careful, Farnsworth. Yorkshire's finest may have an international crimes division charged with decoding 'Muricans' I.P. addresses in order to send Interpol after your ass or at least bar you from entry the next time some earl invites you to tea.

(Although, now that I think about it, why would an international "hate tweet" division for the Yorkshire P.D. be any more ludicrous than what's going on now?)

R. Sherman

OT: Florida Man Greets Royal Navy.

David

Wait a minute. Wait a goddamn minute. Sherman’s been wearing my swirly green Typepad avatar. Identity theft! Someone call South Yorkshire Police!

I’ve been violated online.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

I wonder, do police officers have any inkling of how much damage is being done to their standing among the public?

It is my earnest hope that the pictures of the bobbies on the beat, as in the ones above, gleefully carrying on are cherry picked exceptions, and that the rank and file know that this sort of idiocy is generated by a leadership that has sold out to the PC brigades* to secure promotions and other cushy jobs.

*(N.B. Yorkshire 5-0: that is just another observation from a 'Murkan, not a thing like offensive or insulting comments, online, in person or in writing. Come on, you can't tell me with a straight face that there wasn't a more qualified cop than a former accountant who happened to check off a couple of "diversity" blocks to be commissioner of the Metro Police.)

@R. Sherman - VPN, you may be the eviler twin, but I'll lead them a merry chase. Bwahahahahahaha.

billdehaan

Forgive a colonial for not remembering the specifics, but was it Yorkshire that was roundly mocked last year for their self-congratulatory public relations blitz showing all of the "dangerous" weapons that they had taken off of the streets?

As the officers proudly showed off the arsenal taken from never-do-wells, people noted that it consisted mainly of scissors, screwdrivers, and a couple of carving knives. And while any of these things could be used as a weapon in a pinch, they were more of the "makeshift" weapon variety.

Surprisingly few guns, grenades, or even bows and arrows were shown. And by few, I mean none. The so-called arsenal looked like the contents of a typical bloke's backyard shed a generation back, and the police did not appear to have thought through the public reaction to their media blitz.

I'm not remembering exactly where in England it was, but the general consensus then, as now, was "Seriously, you have time for this nonsense? Aren't there real crimes you could be looking at?"

R. Sherman

It is my earnest hope that the pictures of the bobbies on the beat...

Memo to Self:

Self, please try to read more slowly to avoid seeing words like "bobbies," i.e. British slang for "police officers," akin to the U.S. "flatfoots," as "boobies."

Carry on.

Penseivat

Looking at the uniforms in the main photo, it appears that Panda and Teddy are not Police officers, but Community Safety Officers who are as much use as a chocolate tea pot (hope they're not offended by that description, which is based on personal knowledge and experience). This does not excuse those Police officers who act in a way not suited to their appointment and, in my opinion, they should hand in their warrant cards.

Pogonip

If there’s one thing I hate, it’s hate!

David

Apparently all crime there has ceased, forcing the police to find other ways of occupying their time.

As noted recently, it’s curious how the less an organisation can be counted on to perform its core functions, the more likely it is to overreach into other areas. And so police forces that seem dismissive of burglary and negligent in the face of rape gangs will nonetheless find time and resources to chastise people for being rude on Twitter, or to classify whistling as a “hate crime,” or to have their male officers parade around in heels and nail polish.

Supposedly to reassure the community.

Criticas

I'm supposing a Society for the Appreciation of Charles Lynch is right out. And this despite the fact that he acquitted persons of color and racially disparaged White men.

Lynch was not accused of racist bias. He acquitted blacks accused of murder on three separate occasions. He was accused, however, of ethnic prejudice in his abuse of Welsh miners.

Jonathan

Insulting comments “will not be tolerated.”

Evidently the only permissible attitude for the English is complete obeisence to their new overlords neighbours.

WTP

I have never had a Twitter account nor any desire to get on Twitter until just now. I now feel tempted to create an account for the explicit purpose of inviting the South Yorkshire Pudding Police to kiss my fat (well I have lost a few pounds this year but it's still kinda fat) white Yank (is Yank offensive?) backside. Fortunately (or not) my innate laziness prevents me from doing a number of things that I really shouldn't anyway. Though as the pounds come off I am feeling a little more energetic.

I kid there about Yank but for some reason this only recently occurred to me. If Jap is offensive and I have been told on occasion that Brit is offensive, if someone from Yorkshire (OK, South Yorkshire...geez) calls me a Yank, can they get arrested? Or at least reported? Apropos of nothing, who here is living in South Yorkshire? Hmmm...anyone remember where Sammichman lives? Asking for a friend, of course.

WTP

Heh...just seeing this as much use as a chocolate tea pot. Is that a somewhat common idiom over yonder or was that truly from (im)practical experience? Either way, I'm stealing it. Assuming my swiss cheese brain will remember it 20 minutes from now.

David

as much use as a chocolate tea pot.

Also, “about as much use as a chocolate fireguard.” And variations thereof.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

To the tune of "Men of Harlech"

Cops of Yorkshire, lie ye dreaming ?
There are villians ever tweeting,
With their insults loudly screeching,
On the internet.

Comments are astounding,
Non-crime is abounding,
All must make the 999 call,
Ere the trollish comments fall.

Cops of Yorkshire, avoid the gory
This will ever be your story,
Knives and guns, and cars are crashing,
But harsh words go to gaol !

(N.B. Yorkshire Police, all citizens of the UK have thoroughly denounced this post)

Monty James

'Anarcho-tyranny' is defined as the managerial state enforcing laws against the inoffensive and law-abiding, and refusing to enforce the law against the troublemakers and those who may fight back. No more perfect example exists than this. It is dismaying. It is coming to all of us everywhere.

Monty James

I've contracted a nasty case of tagitis from someone, and the spam trap god needs a little supplication.

ComputerLabRat

I'm starting to see a lot of this. Wasn't it the Essex police saying how they were watching...or was that to Tim after he was in a discussion with some feminist...

Maybe it's because I read a lot here and over at Tim's place that it seems to be happening a lot. I know I'm just an ignorant Yank (Septic?) but is this really becoming a trend in the UK or is it just a few police departments high on unicorn farts?

I'm wondering now if we have that sort of thing going on over here. It seems the civilian twitter mob seems to do ok with the lynchings of those guilty of Wrongthink(TM). Are they less successful at it in the UK? Why do the police feel the need to get involved?

David

and the spam trap god needs a little supplication.

She’s a capricious deity. I’m not sure why she’s taken a dislike to you. Anyway, the fatted oxen seem to have done the trick.

Daniel Ream

the fatted oxen seem to have done the trick

apropos of nothing, while I was minoring in Classical Studies as an undergrad one of the periodic pagan/wiccan revivals was in full swing. I tweaked some of my more enthusiastic friends by loudly converting to the worship of the Olympian Twelve and trying mightily to out-pagan them as much as possible.

Great religion, by the way. All the proper obeisances rewquire copious amounts of brandy and it's pretty much required by the gods that you throw a BBQ party every time you go out of town. And come back.

Hopp Singg

Can I report the Yorkshire police to the Yorkshire police? They're certainly hateful enough.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

Hmmm. The spam filter was not too appeased, it seems.

At any rate, it appears that The Yorkshire Plod have more fodder upon which to crack down.

David

At any rate, it appears that The Yorkshire Plod have more fodder upon which to crack down.

Another godforsaken news site with auto-play video. Auto-play video that follows you around the page and, when closed, reopens at the top of the page, playing again, with sound.

I wish weeping facial sores on those responsible.

Monty James

Thanks for the help and the oxen, David. I usually don't leave the house without an ungulate or two, I know better than that.

Damian

Speaking of crime and punishment, "Here’s a mini thread to clarify what a “gulag” is, for those who only have heard it being used as a buzzword and why sending a bigot to one is actually a compassionate, non-violent course of action..."

Farnsworth M Muldoon

Another godforsaken news site with auto-play video.

My apologies, it didn't do it on mine.

Speaking of crime and punishment...

Great googlymoogly, a LGAT&SF group white washing the gulag system as "rehabilitory", all the while ignoring that LBGLSMFTs would be thrown into "rehabilitation" for being LGBLT. There is woke and there is woke, and then there is just more ignorant than a retarded creosote post without the creosote.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

It gets worse -

LGBTQ+ Goldsmiths

@lgbtqgold

Long story short, friends, the ideas of TERFs and anti trans bigots literally *kill* and must be eradicated through reeducation. Science must be decolonised and de-essentialised in order for this to happen.

Reeducation ? There is a name for the camps the commies sent people to for that, but it escapes me for some reason.

Damian

Ideas literally kill, but gulags were all about the book clubs and theatre groups. As Orwell noted, one has to belong to the intelligentsia to believe things like that: no ordinary man could be such a fool.

Col. Milquetoast

The obvious question : what exactly do they plan to do about all of the committers of non-crime that get reported? I tend to be cynical about bureaucracy but I've often found I'm not cynical enough; I would suggest the perpetrators of these non-crimes will be put in a database for future punishment. Perhaps individual acts of jerkishness will be collated together and punished as "harassment" of a group/class. They'll think of something.

lotocoti

Insulting comments “will not be tolerated.”

What if I give a self-propelled pillar box the hairy eyeball?

Farnsworth M Muldoon

What if I give a self-propelled pillar box the hairy eyeball?

Depends, is it a hairy eyeball with intent to commit stink eye, that will get you a caution, hairy eyeball with intent to commit Il Maloccio will get you nicked.

Hopp Singg

Also, it sounds to me like the Yorkshire police are asking for a list of "probable cause" incidents by which to harass their preferred targets. They can't take official action to get an official verdict, but the process is the punishment. Plus they enjoy it.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

Unrelated, except for the stupid factor, Science !

Hopp Singg

It's a parody, Farnsworth, had to be, cuz I looked up her twitter account and ... ohmigod, it's not!

lotocoti

except for the stupid factor

Just wait until she finds out where Johnson & Johnson get the babies for their Baby Oil.

David

I’ll just leave this here for no reason whatsoever.

David

“Here’s a mini thread to clarify what a “gulag” is… actually a compassionate, non-violent course of action...”

Sadly, said item disappeared before I could savour it, due to the LGBTQ+ Society of Goldsmiths University “protecting their tweets temporarily for the sake of safeguarding.” Safeguarding what is left to the imagination. Though as one wag put it, “Not sure there is anything more 2018 than a *gay rights activist* explaining the positive benefits of gulags.”

Truly, we live in an age of wonders.

Squires

It's funny how you know the truth about melanin and melatonin is extracted from the same thing which is DNA and it can be used as a sleep aid but that's not what they made it for.

She is precious.

Damian

Sadly, said item disappeared before I could savour it

Well, it did get reported to...ahem..the South Yorkshire police, so no doubt the tweets were seized as evidence and the perpetrators have been promptly apprehended. (Here are the screenshots, though.)

Farnsworth M Muldoon

I’ll just leave this here for no reason whatsoever.

Well, that is certainly one way to lower the crime rate.

Lancastrian Oik

The Pythons were on to this a generation ago:

Presenter: Most of the strange tales concern Dinsdale, but what about Doug? One man who met him was Luigi Vercotti.

Vercotti: I had been running a successful escort agency -- high class, no really, high class girls -- we didn't have any of *that* -- that was right out. And I decided (phone rings) Excuse me (he answers phone) Hello......no, not now......shtoom...shtoom....right......yes, we'll have the watch ready for you at midnight.......the watch.....the Chinese watch....yes, right-oh, bye-bye.....mother (he hangs up phone) Anyway I decided to open a high class night club for the gentry at Biggleswade with international cuisine and cooking and top line acts, and not a cheap clip joint for picking up tarts -- that was right out, I deny that completely --, and one evening in walks Dinsdale with a couple of big lads, one of whom was carrying a tactical nuclear missile. They said I had bought one of their fruit machines and would I pay for it.

2nd Interviewer: How much did they want?

Vercotti: They wanted three quarters of a million pounds.

2nd Interviewer: Why didn't you call the police?

Vercotti: Well I had noticed that the lad with the thermonuclear device was the chief constable for the area. So a week later they called again and told me the cheque had bounced and said... I had to see... Doug.

2nd Interviewer: Doug?

Vercotti: Doug (takes a drink) Well, I was terrified. Everyone was terrified of Doug. I've seen grown men pull their own heads off rather than see Doug. Even Dinsdale was frightened of Doug.

2nd Interviewer: What did he do?

Vercotti: He used... sarcasm. He knew all the tricks, dramatic irony, metaphor, pathos, puns, parody, litotes and... satire. He was vicious.

David

Here are the screenshots, though.

Thanks, Damian.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

Meanwhile, also in Yorkshire...

jabrwok

She is precious.

And she probably votes. I'm starting to think Churchill's assessment of democracy was overly optimistic.

David

LBC’s Nick Ferrari has some fun with this story.

Spiny Norman

Lancastrian Oik,

Doug wasn't the only thing Dinsdale was frightened of, if you know what I mean.

Spiny Norman

Squires,

It's funny how you know the truth about melanin and melatonin is extracted from the same thing which is DNA and it can be used as a sleep aid but that's not what they made it for.

She's precious.

Work is slow this week (yikes), and I'm a bit bored at this moment. I'm tempted to post that at 4Chan, including a link to her insane Twitter, and see what happens.

Jack Warner

Wasn't it the Essex police saying how they were watching...or was that to Tim after he was in a discussion with some feminist...

http://www.desertsun.co.uk/blog/8104/

ComputerLabRat

I'm tempted to post that at 4Chan, including a link to her insane Twitter, and see what happens.

Do it!

That Goldsmith's link above, and many posts by our gracious host, show what a lot of that crowd think and know about science...

It's enough to drive a rational person to drink.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

Here is some fine Orwellian logic from the Met.

jones

David,

"I wonder, do police officers have any inkling of how much damage is being done to their standing among the public?"

My suspicion, particularly with respect to those who control the levers of power within our institutions is that they are very aware indeed. The Theodore Dalrymple quote below gives some hint as to the why.

“In my study of communist societies, I came to the conclusion that the purpose of communist propaganda was not to persuade or convince, not to inform, but to humiliate; and therefore, the less it corresponded to reality the better. When people are forced to remain silent when they are being told the most obvious lies, or even worse when they are forced to repeat the lies themselves, they lose once and for all their sense of probity. To assent to obvious lies is...in some small way to become evil oneself. One's standing to resist anything is thus eroded, and even destroyed. A society of emasculated liars is easy to control. I think if you examine political correctness, it has the same effect and is intended to.”

https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/124952-in-my-study-of-communist-societies-i-came-to-the

JuliaM

"LBC’s Nick Ferrari has some fun with this story."

I see the SYP Crime Commissioner got his derrière handed to him by Julia Hartley-Brewer when he went on her show to try to defend this Tweet:

https://twitter.com/JuliaHB1/status/1039420363334201344

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