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October 08, 2018

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Rafi

Rise! Rise!

https://twitter.com/obnoxiotheclown/status/1049337646579945472

David

Rise! Rise!

I can’t decide whether Jerry, our senior art critic, is just pretentious, as you’d expect, or actually coming unspooled.

Joan

Don’t let demented people take control of traffic.

Weren't we talking about pest control in the other thread?

Darleen

This is what a city gets when they elect a Leftist as mayor.

David

Weren’t we talking about pest control in the other thread?

The skunks have more redeeming qualities.

Pogonip

And they’re quieter.

R. Sherman

What does Portland hope to gain by this? Assuming most of the city is progressive, these people are generally inconveniencing themselves. As for innocent bystanders, it simply tells the rest of us, don't visit Portland or spend money there. Further, if the police are being told to stand down and let random members of the public be accosted while exercising the right to freely travel on public roadways, eventually, they're going to get sued for conspiracy to violate civil rights, especially if there has been communication/coordination between the miscreants and the city fathers.

David

Somewhat related.

It scarcely needs repeating, but I very much doubt the latest narcissistic disruptions are actually about politics or anything one could conceivably negotiate in good faith. These are malign, spiteful people who wish to feel powerful via a mob dynamic; and being malign, spiteful people, they conceive power in terms of power over others. The rest is a pretext and convenience, a rationalisation for the antisocial behaviour that they wish to indulge in.

The gratuitous intimidation and coercion, the screeching of abuse and the vandalism of vehicles – these things aren’t some incidental effect or some last resort. They’re the payoff, the sweetest plum.

[ Edited. ]

ComputerLabRat

How is this legal?

What sheep citizens have become. Non-citizens do what they please, much of the time. But the citizenry has been cowed, in the US as well as Britain and elsewhere in Europe. It seems like the majority just gave up their rights to the mob.

SharonGJ

Saltz’s family have been praying for him to shun them. How can they miss him when he won’t go away?

ComputerLabRat

https://twitter.com/anthonyLfisher/status/1049359069235073026?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

They doxxed the old man for legally driving on roads they were illegally blocking?? They block the roads, he tries to get where he's going in spite of them, and he's in the wrong for putting their lives in danger (as they claim)? WTF??

Farnsworth M Muldoon

"You're a whitey aren't you ?", asks the pasty white fat guy, bravely supported by his equally pasty white comrades.

A) You can't make this crap up, they have become self parodying; B) In many of the civilized states it would be legal to shoot these idiots the minute they touched your car, which is why this idiocy doesn't happen there. For the uncivilized states, I guess that gets us back to bear spray.

If this garbage continues, don't be surprised if the South African solution becomes popular.

WTP

And as carry over from the other thread, this right here is pretty much the main reason I am considering a (useable) firearms purchase. Not necessarily these thugs but the worse kind that do surround cars and threaten the life and safety of the inhabitants. Not that these thugs couldn’t easily be inspired to behave in an even more life-threatening manner.

WTP

Also, again the pepper spray. Wonder how that would have played out if someone had deployed such. I think it would be awesome if someone in that area would rig a car with significant volume of pepperspray and wait for such an occasion to present itself again.

Richard

I was thinking that I had a right to travel on the public streets without being assaulted by someone holding a weapon - see the photo, right hand, raised. Apparently I was misinformed.

R. Sherman

I wager rather few of these "warriors" would be inclined to accost someone if they didn't have the power of and anonymity withing the mob. And of course, when it's just the Leftist mob doing the shakedowns of elderly people, the cops are nowhere to be seen. But let a group of opponents announce they're not going to be bullied by these SJW thugs and suddenly, the riot squad appears to "keep the peace."

Pst314

I very much doubt the latest narcissistic disruptions are actually about politics or anything one could conceivably negotiate in good faith. These are malign, spiteful people who wish to feel powerful via a mob dynamic

Communist politics.

Adam

"I very much doubt the latest narcissistic disruptions are actually about politics..."

I believe they are entirely about politics. They are replacing the local authority with their own authority, one intersection at a time. Since the local government assents to it, it will progress until perhaps on election day, Antifa controls who enters the voting places. Obama signaled that direct voter intimidation would not be countered by government when he let the Black Panthers disrupt voting in Philadelphia several years ago.

Joe Ego

But let a group of opponents announce they're not going to be bullied by these SJW thugs and suddenly, the riot squad appears to "keep the peace."

Well, of course. Because a single mob that doesn't break (many) things is easy to ignore. Why are you going out of your way to antagonize the bullies, whitey? Don't you know minding your own business, following traffic laws, and being white are liable to upset them?

Besides, it's not a general Ferguson-style uprising. So let's all pretend it's a normal day in the city. If there aren't any cops around to take statements and make arrests then costs and crime statistics are kept to a minimum.

A non-sarcastic response would go something like this: random conservative-ish groups should take turns hosting rallies in downtown Portland. Take out permits, publicize to their membership, make a bit of a stink about it, then just not show up. Set one up every four to six weeks. See how many can be scheduled to coincide with events like ball games or May Day. Draw the thugs out into the light of day on a semi-regular basis.

At the very least, people will get sick of their taxes going up to buy new trash cans.

jones

At some level these are fascinating behaviours. The lack of insight (or perhaps not) and therefore conscience at the disruption to the law-abiding is scary though.

Does it not occur to them that some of those inconvenienced may be on their way to the hospital to see a gravely ill loved one?

It's hard not to feel an emergent hate in return I must confess.

PS. They hate society but doubtless still expect their social welfare benefits.

David

I believe they are entirely about politics.

Supposedly, the Antifa goons were ‘protesting’ the shooting of an armed gangbanger with an extensive record and who apparently approached two police officers while brandishing a gun, despite warnings, and after several shots were fired.

However, as noted before, if your go-to response to every ostensible cause, every conceivable issue, is to bully and alarm random people, and to shriek abuse at them, and to exult in mob force, then maybe it’s the bullying and exulting in mob force that’s the real driver. Harassing and intimidating random people - people with no obvious personal involvement in the grievance in question – is a moral non sequitur and does seem a little... suspicious. Certainly, it isn’t a tactic that elicits public sympathy for whatever the cause may be this week.

Note the relish with which the female LARPer barks at the puzzled motorist, “Because I told you to.” These things are clues as to motives. As is the gratuitously racist snarling, the fits of hysteria and the repeated and determined provocation. Again, these things aren’t some incidental side-effect of selfless and heroic motives. This is the chosen destination, the reason for doing it. Some people really enjoy exerting power over others, and any excuse will do.

David

Note too the protestors’ readiness to bark racial slurs at random people – “little white fucker” - while denouncing as “racist” anyone who would rather not submit to their street thuggery. It’s a strange mental dance, but typical of the type.

And so, having surrounded a slowly moving car, hoping to menace and intimidate the elderly driver, and having hammered on the car with weapons that they just happened to be carrying, and having thrown themselves against the car, and having then bounced off, unharmed, and having then doxxed the driver, hoping to ruin his life… well, apparently, this is heroism of the highest order.

A kind of super-woke sainthood.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

Does it not occur to them that some of those inconvenienced may be on their way to the hospital to see a gravely ill loved one?

In the unlikely event it does occur to them, they just don't give a damn, as can be witnessed by events such as this, which, per reports, similarly happened at other leftist run riots.

Andy

Do these people not realise that they dont have a monopoly on violence and at some point they`re going to run into some folks who really enjoy violence and are itching to get into a fight with these self proclaimed warriors for justice?
At which point no doubt they`ll start screaming about fascist thugs and demand that the hated fascist police come and save them from their own stupid behaviour

WTP

Do these people not realise that they dont have a monopoly on violence and at some point they`re going to run into some folks who really enjoy violence and are itching to get into a fight with these self proclaimed warriors for justice?

I think they do realize this. Or at least their handlers do. The idea is to slowly ratchet things up until someone on the right snaps. Then, see comment upthread where the riot squad shows up to “keep the peace”. And already you have cuck never-trumper types on the right denouncing what little violent rumblings appear from such people on the right. They get to be the “grown-ups in the room”. Meanwhile the brainwashing of our youth, both in education and increasingly our military continues. Talk to people under 40. Not just your children and/or their friends, look a little further. Yes, it’s different in many ways but the slow attrition in South Africa or Venezuela or even Portland itself (witness the cops standing by, doing nothing...why are they there?) are an indication of how this could play out.

Daniel Ream

At which point no doubt they'll start screaming about fascist thugs and demand that the hated fascist police come and save them from their own stupid behaviour

Which is what will happen. Look, it's not as if Portland doesn't have an armed police force. They even have SWAT. These riots have been going on for weeks and they have not been met with a sudden, swift, decisive response. That's not an accident. The Alinsky Model is to keep pushing until a violent, disproportionate response is provoked, and then leverage that to further delegitimize the opposition. The Portland police aren't going to stop these thugs, and if the citizenry starts defending themselves and/or rolling up these demonstrations, SWAT will get deployed against them.

Adam

"...did you catch his fucking attitude!..." quoth one defender of civic freedom. How dare someone drive away when patriots are defending themselves against his white fragility.

"...somebody get his license plate number!" another one shouted. What would he do: Call the police? If the police are not there already, they are not coming.

Michael Stone

Isn't the fact that someone got the man's address from his license plate prima facie evidence of police collusion?

David

“...did you catch his fucking attitude!”

It’s quite strange to watch - the total moral inversion, in which gratuitous aggression and attempts to menace are construed as victimhood and therefore piety. While the actual victim - the one trying to get away from a belligerent mob armed with knives - is decried as an aggressor, someone to be punished.

Boatswain's Mate

Do these people not realise that they dont have a monopoly on violence and at some point they`re going to run into some folks who really enjoy violence and are itching to get into a fight with these self proclaimed warriors for justice?

WTP has a very valid point about the radical left continuing to use what I'll call micro-violence, bullying and thuggish tactics and actions that they're reasonably confident won't add up to more than a Class A misdemeanor (bike-lock college adjunct being an outlier), in hopes that their "enemy" will then commit a felony that they and the compliant media will then use as propaganda about the "far right attacking peaceful protesters."

That said, though, is there little wonder why these Antifa LARPers stay in their safe zones like Portland, Seattle, etc., instead of bringing their antics down here to the South? Bring that foolishness to Alabama or Mississippi or somewhere similar and see how well or how long the locals would put up with it.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

Bring that foolishness to Alabama or Mississippi or somewhere similar and see how well or how long the locals would put up with it.

Roughly about as long as a snowball in August in Biloxi if the reaction of the Auburn police to the Auntifa/BLM rent-a-mob from Atlanta ("The Shame of Dixie") was anything to go by.

Governor Squid

...in hopes that their "enemy" will then commit a felony that they and the compliant media will then use as propaganda about the "far right attacking peaceful protesters."

The flip side of their gambit is that they're going to shut down an intersection while a frantic husband is trying to get his wife to the hospital to deliver her first child. He tries to force his way through, they attack his car, and Twitter fills up with video showing an angry mob of black-clad criminals attacking a terrified young woman in labor.

If our organizers were half as good as the Left's, this would already have happened.

David

He tries to force his way through, they attack his car, and Twitter fills up with video showing an angry mob of black-clad criminals attacking a terrified young woman in labor.

Is this close enough?

Boatswain's Mate

Oh, Muldoon, I loved that. The Auburn PD were absolutely going to enforce the no-masks ordinance. And the sight of these wannabe revolutionaries, out to bring the fight to the System, meekly queuing up to attend their "anti-fascist" kiddie play date was just gravy on top.

Sam

I live in the golden lands of Texas. Within my vehicle I carry, legally and safely, a weapon most people would associate with Colombian drug cartels. I am far from the only person who carries serious weaponry in their vehicle at all times. Perhaps coincidentally, these things do not happen in Texas.

So I say to those in Progressiveland, USA: either get your shit together or move somewhere where men have ensured the shit stays together so that you may benefit from their efforts.

Thomas O

Is this what they meant by intersectionality?

Spiny Norman

Adam,

What would he do: Call the police? If the police are not there already, they are not coming.

If you watch the various videos closely, you'll note the occasional Portland PD officer in the background, "observing".

(Under direct orders from the lunatic mayor not to interfere)

Boatswain's Mate

Sam, I'm from the land of "Woo Pig Sooie" and much the same could be said here. Those costumed pretenders "wouldn't feel safe" here.

(I spent a good portion of my life in "Hook 'Em, Horns," country, which is the closest thing Texas is going to get to a place like Portland. It's sad to see what a stereotype the UT campus has become.)

WTP

The flip side of their gambit is that they're going to shut down an intersection while a frantic husband is trying to get his wife to the hospital to deliver her first child. He tries to force his way through, they attack his car, and Twitter fills up with video showing an angry mob of black-clad criminals attacking a terrified young woman in labor.

Is this close enough?

A lot of this blocking roads crap started with the Critical Mass cyclists. Can’t find the article now, ran into a couple 404’s so go figure, but I recall either Portland or Seatle some people were trying to get to a dinner reservation and cyclists shut down traffic. One of the people in the car was a very pregnant woman who was frightened by what was going on and her husband/boyfriend reacted to it in some way that brought the cyclists attention more to them. Don’t recall the specifics. This ring a bell with anyone?

Governor Squid

(Under direct orders from the lunatic mayor not to interfere)

It disappoints me that the Mayor's office is not flooded with irate citizens demanding an end to the lawlessness. Given the caterwauling that regularly occurs when Public Works installs a "No Right Turn" sign at a busy intersection, you'd think that an angry mob enforcing an arbitrary "Road Closed" edict would induce at least some kind of reaction.

Sam

the closest thing Texas is going to get to a place like Portland

Austin born and raised. Witnessing my beloved city transmogrify from a quirky, "guns and god" leftist haven with good food to a pathetic Left Coast-aping socialist stereotype is one of the saddest things in my life. I still feel the need to reflexively defend my hometown but the sheer quantity of Californians and assorted Yankees who've infested the place and empowered the native lunatic environazi fringe has thoroughly robbed me of any remaining pride.

Boatswain's Mate

Austin used to be cool, little quirky place. I loved it back in the day when the population was below 400,000, when Antone's was the place to go, or the Broken Spoke, and staying the hell away from Sixth Street. I think the downward spiral has its genesis when Dell opened up shop in Round Rock, and a lot of techies came in from the Left Coast, and found compadres there.

Spiny Norman

Sam,

...the sheer quantity of Californians and assorted Yankees who've infested the place and empowered the native lunatic environazi fringe has thoroughly robbed me of any remaining pride.

Now imagine your home state transforming in that manner, slowly enough and over a long enough time that no one outside the state believes it was ever anything but "a land of fruits and nuts".

[+]

the Antifa goons were ‘protesting’ the shooting of an armed gangbanger with an extensive record and who apparently approached two police officers while brandishing a gun,

'BLM and antifa protesters found themselves being heckled by a homeless man during their protest on Oct. 1st. "He shot two people!" the homeless guy hollered from across the street as the protesters chanted, "His name was Patrick Kimmons!" "I don't give a f*ck what his name was -- he's gone! And he was a gang-banging, people-shooting motherf*cker!" the shirtless man exclaimed.

This prompted several of the protesters to race across the street to confront him."He shot at people!" the man repeated. "Right here, I live right here!" A white woman rushed across the street to argue with the man. "You're a white privileged little motherf*cker," the woman said, before stomping off.'

https://pjmedia.com/trending/blm-and-antifa-agitators-take-over-street-in-portland-to-protest-police-shooting/

David

“You’re a white privileged little motherf*cker,” the woman said, before stomping off.

The obliviousness and perversity of these creatures is difficult to parody.

jabrwok

How many Texans do we have here? Sam, Boatswain's Mate, and me (in the home of Bluebell). We should arrange a meet-up!

Farnsworth M Muldoon

Austin, you say ?

This escapee from the Bethlem Royal Hospital wants to be your mayor.

Sam

@Farnsworth

Nonsense, if he's not homeless and wearing fishnets Austin aint interested.

Ahem: Leslie For Mayor

Best platform: "Homes for the Homeless, Starting with Me!"

ComputerLabRat

Hmmm - that first video is saying it is no longer available. The second one still works. I'm not entirely saddened by this, as the smug expression on that person's face made me want to commit felony violence to wipe it off.

Interesting juxtaposition, though, with the current American media whine that angry bedlamite mobs should not be called "mobs"...

David

Hmmm - that first video is saying it is no longer available.

Both have now been deleted by the man who filmed them, Brandon Farley. No idea why.

ComputerLabRat

Curiouser and curiouser.

It couldn't possibly have anything to do with clear, blatant, visual evidence of a leftist mob in action, when all the talking heads and media operatives currently are crying "You can't say that!" about leftist mobs.

Nooooooo.

[adjusts tinfoil hat]

It's probably something to do with legal stuff. Cops and mobs don't like having their pictures taken when they up to dodgy business. And because both can do real damage to the person filming, their desires often end up superceding everyone else's desires, rights, needs, etc.

I need a drink.

David

I still can’t find an explanation for why the videos were removed from YouTube and Twitter. But Andy Ngo has some background on the ‘protests’ here:

Flyers urged Portlanders to attend a protest: “27yo black father of 3 murdered by racist Portland Police.” Some 100 Black Lives Matter activists with the group Don’t Shoot Portland and their masked antifa allies answered the call to gather downtown Oct. 6. Fists in the air, they demanded “justice” for Patrick Kimmons, killed by police in late September. “Stop racist police terror,” read one sign at the rally. “Throw all cops in the trash,” declared another. Never mind that Kimmons had an extensive criminal record and was suspected of shooting two people before police responded.

I presume such details are deemed racist.

David

Update:

The links in the main post now work again, in that they direct you to the missing footage on Mr Farley’s Twitter feed. Still waiting for the footage to reappear on YouTube.

garretso

This happened near my place of work, to which I drive motor five days a week. I'm thinking it may be time to start packing heat.

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