Now here's a question. At what point does grunting, blood-spattered hyper-masculinity become totally homoerotic? Somewhere around 300, methinks.
And if you think the above must be a cruel travesty of Frank Miller’s rather striking graphic novel, well, think again. Update: Via the comments, readers are welcome to suggest other films in which over-revved masculinity has veered unintentionally into homoerotica or teetered on the brink of camp.
Now here's a question. At what point does grunting, blood-spattered hyper-masculinity become totally homoerotic?
In Derek Jarman's Sebastiane
Posted by: KB Player | March 26, 2007 at 20:53
KB,
Yes, but Jarman’s Sebastiane was overtly and intentionally homoerotic. I don’t think it’s quite so clear what Miller’s intentions were on that front, or indeed Zack Snyder’s. Maybe visitors can suggest other films where over-revved masculinity veered unintentionally into homoerotica or teetered on the brink of camp.
Posted by: David Thompson | March 26, 2007 at 21:54
Given what (admittedly little) is known about Spartan culture, I don't see how a movie about them could fail to be homoerotic. Honestly, though, who cares? Should straight men refuse to like something purely because it has homosexual overtones?
Football players wear extremely tight pants. They slap one another on the butt all the time. They end most plays with large, sweaty piles of clutching, grunting beefcake. Heterosexual men persist in watching and even enjoying such spectacles.
Posted by: Molyuk | March 27, 2007 at 08:43
Molyuk,
“Should straight men refuse to like something purely because it has homosexual overtones?”
Heaven forbid, and I wasn’t implying disapproval. I was just curious as to why overstated masculinity often leads to either homoeroticism or camp, while overstated femininity doesn’t – so far as I know – lead to suggestions of lesbianism. Just a thought.
Posted by: David Thompson | March 27, 2007 at 09:52
That kind of strutting bicep heavy masculinity would strike me as absurd rather than as erotic (okay, camp if you like). But then I don't think heterosexual females and homosexual males are necessarily the same in what they find erotic.
As for overstated femininity, it's just annoying. It puts the ninnie into females.
Posted by: KB Player | March 27, 2007 at 15:15
And can you imagine the scenario of a film of overstated femininity. A Miss World contest? (Miss Congeniality?) A harem (The Story of O - only that is overtly erotic)? What would the women be doing? Films that are all female are fairly rare anyway unlike all the war films and cowboy films.
Also, don't these homoerotic films have to be set somewhere warm so the guys can fight half dressed and before the invention of muskets, guns etc so there is plenty of hand to hand fighting.
Posted by: KB Player | March 27, 2007 at 20:15
KB,
“And can you imagine the scenario of a film of overstated femininity… What would the women be doing?”
Yes, that’s the thing, isn’t it? If hyper-masculine roles are supposed to involve strutting, slaying and the beating of chests, I guess the ultra-feminine roles would - by the same logic - involve… um, less activity. Cards, perhaps.
I hasten to add I’m not being entirely serious here. And, cinematically speaking, I tend to think the ladies should be equipped with flame throwers and a no-nonsense attitude.
Posted by: David Thompson | March 27, 2007 at 21:12