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May 09, 2009

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John D

That's hypnotic.

JuliaM

"That's hypnotic."

Thank god no-one's yet found a way to add a techno dancetrack to it...

John D

For Julia:
http://www.yooouuutuuube.com/v/?rows=36&cols=36&id=gzyFmilkd80&startZoom=1

Anna

It works well on slow motion.

http://www.yooouuutuuube.com/v/?rows=36&cols=36&id=xEIvPD6zpL0&startZoom=1

Simen Thoresen

My own preferences tend towards the classics;
http://www.yooouuutuuube.com/v/?rows=24&cols=24&id=3uxTpyCdriY&startZoom=1

They also work well here I see.

Of course, like any tool this one adds neither artistry, importance nor quality to the raw materials the artist starts out with.

http://www.yooouuutuuube.com/v/?rows=18&cols=12&id=EnPIPOaRUFg&startZoom=1

-S

James S

How was the film?

David

“How was the film?”

Surprisingly good. Eric Bana gets short-changed in the rush to re-establish the franchise and there are a couple of rough edges story-wise for much the same reason; but it’s mostly successful (no small feat) – and fun. It’s certainly the most entertaining Star Trek film in a long, long time.

JuliaM

"It’s certainly the most entertaining Star Trek film in a long, long time. "

Ah, but is it a 'blockbuster for the Obama age'..?

http://ace.mu.nu/archives/287076.php

:)

David

Julia,

In small doses, it’s funny watching reviewers shoehorning their own political preferences into a film with no discernible party political subtext. Unless heroism and daring are now exclusive properties of registered Democrats. One Channel 4 review rambled on about how “Star Trek has re-emerged to make the galaxy safe for liberals.” In large doses – and there’s quite a bit of it about – it gets slightly nauseating.

Prattling aside, the film’s worth seeing. The final showdown never quite packs the emotional impact that’s expected and Eric Bana doesn’t have much to do, despite being the villain of the piece. But the film does manage to reboot an exhausted franchise in an entertaining way, which is no small accomplishment.

Anna

I saw it last night and really enjoyed it. Worst bits: Old Spock and Scotty being found so conveniently, Scotty's furry alien assistant thing (was it an ewok?). Best bits: Pre-title battle, Spock and Uhura, the swollen hands (brilliant).

James S

The furry ewok thing was a bit naff and Simon Pegg does the worst Scottish accent ever. The rest was pretty good I thought, but the most exciting bit is definitely the fight at the start.

apotheosis

Where does he GET these wonderful toys?

carbon based lifeform

"and there are a couple of rough edges story-wise for much the same reason."

Like how Old Spock happens to be exactly where Kirk gets ditched. And where Scotty is. With his ewok.

David

I think the idea is that Nero dumps Old Spock on a planet from which he will see the destruction of Vulcan. Though why it should happen to be exactly the same part of exactly the same planet that Kirk is ditched on too - and where Scotty happens to be with his furry playmate - isn’t clear to me. But then it isn’t clear why the black hole that consumes Vulcan doesn’t disturb or consume another planet that’s so implausibly close. (If an imploding planet can be seen in detail with the naked eye, where you’re standing can’t be the safest of locations.)

But pondering the finer points of a Star Trek plot will eventually lead to madness.

JuliaM

"I think the idea is that Nero dumps Old Spock on a planet from which he will see the destruction of Vulcan."

This part I just can't reconcile - I'm no great Trek fan, but I thought the film was pretty enjoyable (very fast moving, the cast were pretty good too - Karl Urban in particular) so why the need to shoehorn in one of the Old Crew? It would have been better if they'd just let the rebooted cast get on with it. It wasn't really necessary.

David

Karl Urban got a lot of flack in the reviews, but his McCoy was almost eerie. Though Simon Pegg just seemed a bit too goofy, even without his ewok. Hopefully, the next one will feature Scotty’s furry companion falling out of an airlock or being horribly disintegrated.

Anna

"Hopefully, the next one will feature Scotty's furry companion falling out of an airlock or being horribly disintegrated."

Two words: Transporter malfunction. :)

AntiCitizenOne

>But then it isn’t clear why the black hole that consumes Vulcan doesn’t disturb or consume another planet that’s so implausibly close.

Why should it? The centre of mass and the amount of mass will remain the same, so nothing should happen to the orbiting planet. Although the Red Matter is a token "negative tachyon fluctuation" trek style plot device it's not too bad in this case, lets just say it catalyses the removal of the nuclear repulsive forces leaving gravity.

David

AC1,

See, if something along those lines had been muttered in the film, that would have been… well, something. But I fear we’re heading perilously close to discussing how “red matter” works and exactly how much of it you need to create singularities that threaten to gobble starships. Which is a bit like asking how Superman can see while using his heat vision.

And no good can come of that.

Baltar's Beard

"Which is a bit like asking how Superman can see while using his heat vision."

Or debating Chekov’s accent…

"Chekhov, the ostentatiously Russian character, speaks with what's supposed to be an ostentatiously Russian accent, but its most prominent aspect is that he pronounces "v"s as "w"s, as if Russians have a hard time pronouncing "v"s. But it's really the other way around: Russians tend to pronounce "w"s as "v"s (the capital of the U.S., for instance, is rendered "Vah-shing-ton" and they have no trouble at all with "v"s."

http://volokh.com/archives/archive_2009_05_10-2009_05_16.shtml#1242082715

tehag

I didn't care for it. It seemed stitched together from other Star Treks, coupled with too many absurdities, e.g., why supply Spock's star collapsing mission with barrels of "red matter" when only a couple of drops sufficed to put the nova toothpaste back in the tube? how could the nova destroy Romulus by surprise (haven't the physics of sub-light motion been discovered in the future)? if Nero's ship was an ordinary mining ship until Romulus was destroyed, where did all the weapons come from and why was his crew so loyal? I could go on, but why bother? It was an okay movie, better than ST:TMP and ST:Insurrection, but not as good as ST:TWOK or ST:FC.

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