The Agonies of the Left: An Ocean of Tears
January 02, 2013
The freeloader’s manifesto. As rjmadden notes in the comments, replace ‘capitalism’ with ‘adulthood’ and all becomes clear.
Saddened by the proles thinking for themselves. Saddened and baffled.
Their fretting makes them better than us.
Yes, of course. That should do it.
Longing for uncomplicated anger.
Says the “radical trans queer Marxist transfeminist poet and theorist-in-progress.”
The Christmas spirit. Freeze the elderly for the Greater Good.
Do please keep them coming. We must learn our place in their world.
Saddened by the proles thinking for themselves. Saddened and baffled.
Heh. Happy new year, David.
Posted by: Anna | January 02, 2013 at 11:35
This is a problem with Twitter. Once, these sorts of statements were protected by doctor/patient confidentiality. Now the patients just blurt them out in public, because they can do so easily.
Posted by: Peter Risdon | January 02, 2013 at 11:51
Once, these sorts of statements were protected by doctor/patient confidentiality.
Spot on. "Why do I have to have a job and pay my debts, doctor? Can't I just live in my old bedroom forever? It's so unfair!"
Posted by: Anna | January 02, 2013 at 11:59
The tone does quite often suggest a peevish teenager.
Posted by: David | January 02, 2013 at 12:34
@occupytheory... theorist-in-progress
They like this 'theory' business, don't they?
Posted by: sk60 | January 02, 2013 at 13:37
They like this ‘theory’ business, don’t they?
Theory is much more compliant than reality, so you can imagine the advantages. Plus, you get to call yourself a critical theorist or some other self-flattering bollocks.
Posted by: David | January 02, 2013 at 14:21
Most normal people look back nostalgically to the carefree freedom and optimism of their youth. What kind of person yearns for lost uncomplicated anger?
Posted by: Peter | January 02, 2013 at 16:14
I'm afraid I don't see what the problem is with most of these tweets. Except for the first one which is idiotic and the second one which is callous, the ones in the middle seem to be mostly personal and quite sane. A possible exception is the ones referring to "rich workers" not following the correct politics, but rightwingers do the same damn thing so it looks a tad hypocritical for you to be mocking it.
Posted by: SpinsterAndCat | January 02, 2013 at 17:01
What kind of person yearns for lost uncomplicated anger?
People for whom childlike anger equals feeling important and being noticed?
Posted by: David | January 02, 2013 at 17:02
Tidal, could you lend me £50? Ta.
Posted by: Rob | January 02, 2013 at 17:11
Once again DT trawls through manure to fish out the nuggets of pure gold so that the rest of us don't have to. Resolution: remember he has a PayPal button. Happy New Year!
Posted by: Mr Grumpy | January 02, 2013 at 17:32
Our biggest tasks r 2 defeat the two ideological pillars of capitalism: 1) that we have to pay our debts and 2) that we have to have jobs.
Swap the word 'capitalism' with 'adulthood' and all becomes clear.
Happy New Year, David (and all the regulars).
Posted by: rjmadden | January 02, 2013 at 17:40
Resolution: remember he has a PayPal button. Happy New Year!
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Posted by: David | January 02, 2013 at 17:53
Forgive me for occasionally thinking that this is a parody site. Real, grown-up adults don't really say things like this. Do they?
Posted by: Mike James | January 02, 2013 at 19:31
Our biggest tasks r 2 defeat the two ideological pillars of adulthood: 1) that we have to pay our debts and 2) that we have to have jobs.
Yep, it's definitely clearer (and more honest).
Posted by: Mags | January 02, 2013 at 19:43
Real, grown-up adults don't really say things like this. Do they?
Actually, no, grown-ups don't. rjmadden speaks the truth.
Posted by: Spiny Norman | January 02, 2013 at 20:49
I guarantee you that, eg, Delingp doesn't go to bed every night wondering if he's doing the right thing…
Wow. Only lefties have consciences, then?
Posted by: Anna | January 02, 2013 at 21:01
Wow. Only lefties have consciences, then?
The thread from which that was taken (via Peter Risdon) was almost a group hug, with the self-dramatizing participants congratulating themselves on their extensive (alleged) fretting. Though if Laurie Penny were in fact anxious to “justify” her writing and were in fact “wondering if [she’s] doing the right thing,” wouldn’t she engage with her critics once in a while? I mean engage substantively, not just denounce them as racists, misogynists, right-wingers or unspecified haters of some kind. And maybe if Laurie maintained some connection with reality and logic, as opposed to her usual wild supposition and rhetorical avalanche, she might not feel quite so obliged to display her personal insecurities and Enormous Leftwing Conscience™.
Still, it’s good to know that presumptuous self-flattery is the path to enlightenment.
Posted by: David | January 02, 2013 at 21:29
Only lefties have consciences, then?
Oh, they believe that wholeheartedly. Brains, too, as well as compassion, empathy, a yearning for peace and a love of humanity. That's why they walk around 24/7 in a red-hot rage.
Posted by: Peter | January 02, 2013 at 21:58
I think she's realized that she's becoming the kind of person that her friends tell her she should hate. And this troubles her, because she doesn't think of herself as a bad person. Hence all the flap about "justification" and "uncomplicated hate".
It is a peculiar quirk of the liberal mindset that one can allow hate of people, but not of persons. If you hate people, well, that's a faceless indiscriminate mass, a movement or an ideology or an income level, recreational preference, view on teenage sexual practices. The liberal sees nothing wrong with hating a general characteristic applied to a large group (indeed, the liberal will probably tell you that hate is both necessary and laudable, because only through hate can we overcome all those things we...um, well, hate.)
But if you hate a person, then it means you hate an individual because of their specific characteristics. And that's bad, and wrong, and evil, because hating someone for who they are is a bad wrong evil thing to do.
This is how a liberal can go on a bitter, angry rant against the concept of overpopulation, and then turn to their pregnant friend and say "so how's your baby?" And they would be honestly surprised if you were angry with them, because obviously they weren't talking about her. What are you, some kind of idiot?
But as you get older it gets a lot harder to justify hating "people", because you stop being able to convince yourself that "people" and "persons" are different. Not only do you know more persons, but you start looking like the people you've always hated. And you're not a bad person, right? So what does that mean for all those other persons?
Posted by: DensityDuck | January 03, 2013 at 00:03
You have to feel a little sorry for R. Ville.
I mean, thinking that behaving like an obnoxious arse during an otherwise mundane and innocuous conversation counts as an achievement. A heady triumph worthy of online bragging, no less.
The patheticness is strong in this one.
Posted by: Bart | January 03, 2013 at 00:14
the ones in the middle seem to be mostly personal and quite sane
The underlying assumptions that we find absurd are as follows:
@carolineholding—The idea that one's socioeconomic status is also (or should be) an ideological determinant.
@PennyRed—The idea that the more she wrings her hands about her privilege, the more righteous she is. And that public, self-righteous moral preening is anything but unbecoming.
@Prolapsarian—Not sure what idea is being expressed here. Help?
@PennyRed—The idea that taxing the bejezus out of the evil rich is always morally correct.
@MarkOneinFour—The idea that what one thought and felt in one's 20s ought to be yearned for instead of grown out of.
@ihatehackney—The idea that gender/sex MUST BE independent of biology; the idea that stifling other people's trivial, non-compliant conversations is a moral victory.
@ihatehackney—The antiquated Marxist vocabulary: "direct action collective"; the need to fulfill oneself by pissing in other people's cornflakes; the inability to recognize that cutting off gas supplies hurts the poor and needy FIRST and WORST.
That's just what I pulled out of my elbow. There's SO much more to be gleaned...
Posted by: dicentra | January 03, 2013 at 03:34
...thinking that behaving like an obnoxious arse during an otherwise mundane and innocuous conversation counts as an achievement.
R. Ville's motive was undoubtedly to derail a conversation that did not - and would not - centre on him/her. Mediocre Dave is appropriately labelled.
Posted by: Greg | January 03, 2013 at 06:35
"Mediocre Dave is appropriately labelled."
I'm not so sure. I think he may be suffering from delusions of mediocrity.
Posted by: blackmamba | January 03, 2013 at 07:15
Dicentra wins cake.
Posted by: David | January 03, 2013 at 08:11
Our biggest tasks r 2 defeat the two ideological pillars of adulthood: 1) that we have to pay our debts and 2) that we have to have jobs.
Why Marxists have trouble getting a mortgage.
Posted by: Karen M | January 03, 2013 at 08:28
Enormous Leftwing Conscience™.
Enormous Leftwing Ego™.
Fixed.
Posted by: John D | January 03, 2013 at 09:01
Why Marxists have trouble getting a mortgage.
What’s funny – well, maybe not funny… What’s interesting is that many of the slacker ‘anarchists’ and ‘critical theorists’ featured in this series are, knowingly or not, following Marx’s own personal example. Anyone familiar with the actual life of Uncle Karl will recognise the rejection of responsibility and reciprocity, the colossal vanity and sense of entitlement, the chronic dependence on (and repeated exploitation of) friends, family and bourgeois values, the fits of spite and childlike rage, the apocalyptic fixations, and the instinctive contempt for people who dare to disagree.
Thomas Sowell’s essay Marx the Man is a handy summary and quite revealing.
Posted by: David | January 03, 2013 at 09:11
David, according to Paul Johnson, Marx's mother, tired of being hit up for money by her son, once mused that she wished Karl would try to amass some capital rather than just write about it.
Posted by: Peter | January 03, 2013 at 10:25
Peter,
It might be interesting to take a toothcomb to Marx’s writing and see just how much of it is more plausible as an elaborate rationalisation of his own chronic mooching and personal demons.
Posted by: David | January 03, 2013 at 10:46
I'm not that familiar with Marx's writings, but I am curious: did he ever presume himself to be an artist, declare that his self proclaimed artist status gave him preternatural powers of truth-seeing not accessible by the common rabble, then hint heavily that he therefore should have his existence subsidised by other people without his having to work? Or is this a modern innovation?
Posted by: Bart | January 03, 2013 at 11:57
This would be the most brilliant coffee table book EVAH!
http://www.blurb.com/
Posted by: DMartyr | January 03, 2013 at 17:09
Dicentra wins cake.
Rats. I just swore off carbs and sugars.
Posted by: dicentra | January 03, 2013 at 17:12
Sloth and parasitism clothed in a fig leaf of political righteousness. In former centuries they would have been shipped to Australia.
Posted by: rabbit | January 03, 2013 at 18:04
On the topic of leftist rubbish, the Guardian's got a piece out today which is bizarre even by their standards:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2013/jan/03/paedophilia-bringing-dark-desires-light
Posted by: Mr. X | January 03, 2013 at 20:16
"...how much of it is more plausible as an elaborate rationalisation of his own chronic mooching and personal demons."
"...declare that his self proclaimed artist status gave him preternatural powers of truth-seeing not accessible by the common rabble, then hint heavily that he therefore should have his existence subsidised by other people..."
The Muhammad of the West.
Posted by: Squires | January 04, 2013 at 05:03
I cut off people's gas supplies for an actual (well paid, even) job. In context I think that's perfect irony...
Posted by: Fiend's Brave Victim | January 04, 2013 at 08:49
Bart: No no no, Marx claimed not that he was an 'artist', but that we would all be artists, such was the liberation he was to provide to us. As explained to me many years ago by an eager young Marxist. You'll probably find him on twitter somewhere or in a mental health clinic.
I don't think Marx said anything about art progressing from the representation of beauty to the polemical posturing of adolescents, but then it has been a long time since I read it. And actually it would explain the whole 'we are all artists' thing.
Posted by: Fiend's Brave Victim | January 04, 2013 at 09:04
Laurie's latest in the Guardian today about the cost of train travel hilariously claims that "it costs £101 to get to Norwich". As various people then point out, she doesn't even think it's worthwhile telling us where she's travelling *from*.
I mean, *everyone* lives in Islington, don't they?
Posted by: Tom Foster | January 04, 2013 at 11:16
More on the “isn’t this work thing just awful” theme. Nina Power – noted here previously – wants to “abolish existing structures.” Though how and to what end, and what might replace them, is, as usual, rather vague, indeed entirely undefined. Being a Nina Power article, it’s long on assertion, much of it bizarre, and short on logic or realism.
Still, never mind. When our Marxoid betters take charge everything will be free, comrades!
[ Added: ]
Note that when someone draws attention to the article’s wild fantasy and lack of substance, our fearless “anti-capitalist” replies, somewhat snootily: “[Abolishing work] is a fairly standard anti-capitalist argument. Surprised you’ve never encountered it before.” Pressed on this curious, albeit typical, lack of detail, our Marxoid radical gets a little sly: “Comment is Free is not really the place for speculative political economy. Presume the article is to prompt that.”
Ah. So Nina Power - a Marxist academic who enjoys a media platform precisely because she’s a Marxist academic and supposed to think about these things - doesn’t actually have to support her political fantasies with a serious argument. Or even a sketch of a serious argument. She can just posture and pretend, untroubled by practicality of any kind. Other people will have to do the actual thinking, at some point, possibly.
All rather symbolic, really.
Posted by: David | January 04, 2013 at 17:02
Nina Power – noted here previously – wants to “abolish existing structures.” Though how and to what end, and what might replace them, is, as usual, rather vague, indeed entirely undefined.
'Abolish existing structures' means other people should give her free food, free housing, free everything. That's food someone else has to grow, houses someone else has to build. So basically other people should work for her without getting paid.
Posted by: rjmadden | January 05, 2013 at 09:01
'Abolish existing structures' means other people should give her free food, free housing, free everything. That's food someone else has to grow, houses someone else has to build. So basically other people should work for her without getting paid. '
Indeed. Leftists are usually in headlong flight from reality.They are the ultimate denialists. Joseph Stalin, for example was busy creating his fantasy world when he was mugged by reality. His mugger, as Martin Amis once said, was called the Wehrmacht.
Posted by: peter horne | January 05, 2013 at 09:58
I fear you’ve given this more thought than Dr Nina Power has. But yes, it’s curious just how often professed egalitarians make noises that suggest they, being egalitarians, are so much more important than everyone else. As, for instance, when the British taxpayer was forced to bankroll Laurie Penny’s “artistic” trip to the Arctic, where she and her shipmates – a “think tank,” no less – congratulated themselves on their leftwing politics. All for only half a million pounds. Of someone else’s money. And when some of those uppity taxpayers dared to suggest that their confiscated earnings might have been put to better use, Laurie waved aside such grumbling as “anodyne” and “inconsequential.”
There ain’t no arrogance quite like socialist arrogance.
Posted by: David | January 05, 2013 at 10:31
"Abolish work... for us," in short.
One of the cunning things about Marxism is the way it utilizes state control of, dare I say it, capital to discretely institute slavery for the benefit of the nomenklatura. And of course, as in the antebellum South, those who would be the slave-masters insist it's all for the best for the slaves as well. they need to be controlled for their own good, and clearly any correct-thinking person can see that!
Posted by: Squires | January 06, 2013 at 02:13
Socialism is slavery, as I think Von Mises argued in his masterful analysis of the subject. He also said 'Every socialist is a disguised dictator', a thought worth keeping in mind when dealing with lefties.That is its eternal attraction - power.
Posted by: peter horne | January 06, 2013 at 10:05
Re the Nina Power article, one Guardian reader actually says,
Free stuff, see?
That’s the thing about Marxoid politics and the kinds of people to whom it appeals. There are always resentful intellectuals and pretend intellectuals, who presumably imagine they’d be among the nomenklatura – administrators or consultants of some kind, directing “progress” from a position of privilege or immunity. And there are also dupes and dullards whose grasp of reality is arrested at the level of a small child.
Incidentally, according to Laurie Penny, Nina Power’s article is a “brilliant piece… a timely analysis that really shouldn’t be as controversial as it is.” “Power’s piece,” she tells us, “went viral for good reason.” What that reason is, and why the piece is “brilliant,” remains unspecified. Which I’m sure shocks no-one.
Posted by: David | January 06, 2013 at 10:25
They want Huxley's Brave New World made real, and they want it NOW!
Posted by: Spiny Norman | January 06, 2013 at 17:41
David, you cynic. They're fighting the power and keeping it real.
Posted by: Rafi | January 07, 2013 at 19:59
Remember that Obama appointee who waxed all weak in the knees over the memory and grandeur of Mao?
http://www.countingcats.com/?p=13675
I wonder what she'd have to say to a man like Yang Jisheng.
Posted by: Squires | January 08, 2013 at 06:36
“brilliant piece… a timely analysis that really shouldn’t be as controversial as it is.”
Well, it's not really that brilliant. It was rambling and incoherent, and aside from the fact that Ms Power doesn't like capitalism, the Tories or work, it had no clear point to make.
And it wasn't, strictly speaking, an analysis either. Those tend to have stuff like facts and data, and attempts at processing information in order to come up with a cogent theory about whatever you're talking about. Ms Power's article had nothing remotely resembling any of that whatsoever.
Also, it's not particularly controversial either. Controversies aren't generally ignored, barring some moderate mocking, by their detractors, nor are they described as "fairly standard" arguments by their supporters.
Say what you like about Ms Penny but the fact is, she can cram considerably more wrong into a single sentence than you can.
Posted by: Bart | January 08, 2013 at 14:23
Say what you like about Ms Penny but the fact is, she can cram considerably more wrong into a single sentence than you can.
She’s gifted that way.
Though there is some competition.
Posted by: David | January 08, 2013 at 14:51
"Say what you like about Ms Penny but the fact is, she can cram considerably more wrong into a single sentence than you can."
When your religion demands that two-plus-two must never, ever equal four, one gets a great deal of practice in pretending that it doesn't.
Posted by: Squires | January 09, 2013 at 01:07
Say what you like about Ms Penny but the fact is, she can cram considerably more wrong into a single sentence than you can.
So our dear Ms Penny is paid by the error?
Posted by: Spiny Norman | January 09, 2013 at 03:13