MSNBC’s race-hustling bedlamite Melissa Harris-Perry wants to tell you about Star Wars:
I have a lot [of feelings] about the whole Darth Vader situation. Yeah, like, the part where he was totally a black guy whose name basically was James Earl Jones, who, and we were all, but while he was black, he was terrible and bad and awful and used to cut off white men’s hands, and didn’t, you know, actually claim his son. But as soon as he claims his son and goes over to the good, he takes off his mask and he is white. Yes, I have many, many feelings about that.
But the evil storm-troopers all wore white!!!! It's a conspiracy!!!!
Posted by: dw | December 14, 2015 at 13:18
I can’t help wondering if Ms Harris-Perry would rather that James Earl Jones had turned down what must be one of the most lucrative voiceover jobs in history in order to avoid his unseen black skin being associated with make-believe evil in a fictitious universe.
Posted by: David | December 14, 2015 at 13:21
So black = voice, clothing, and bad deeds in her eyes?
A sane person would think black clothes have always symbolized evil and a great voice is a great voice. I know 95% of the world understood this as children.
Posted by: Rjschwarz | December 14, 2015 at 13:25
Before being hired as an MSNBC host, Ms Harris-Perry taught Political Science and African-American Studies at Princeton University. According to Wikipedia, she was denied a full professorship because of “questions about her work.”
Posted by: David | December 14, 2015 at 13:31
Sometimes real life is indistinguishable from parody:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrCO-pwh4EE
Posted by: Captain Nemo | December 14, 2015 at 13:33
I remember in the 90’s stand-up comedians would do this exact same routine, and everyone would laugh because it was obviously absurdist humour. I think it was also done by Chris Rock in the film Dogma.
Now SJWs are doing the same routine, but being serious?!
Posted by: Adiabat | December 14, 2015 at 13:48
Jar-Jar Binks. The 'Der Sturmer'/insect-like slave trader with the prominent nose. The Federation aliens with the Mikado-style headdress, the accents and the eyes.
She's too stupid to pick out even the obvious cases.
Posted by: sackcloth and ashes | December 14, 2015 at 13:55
Too good not to quote:
Michael Jackson’s story is Darth Vader’s in reverse. In Star Wars, a whiny, sexually frustrated, white man-child no one trusts turns, via hideous disfigurement, into an all-conquering, super-cool black guy who first made it big in the 70s.
Of course, I need to point out that Pootergeek is a black guy but what does he know.
Posted by: TDK | December 14, 2015 at 13:57
Even though I’ll happily book IMAX tickets to watch the Avengers punching robots, I still don’t quite get the Star Wars films’ adult fandom. I saw the original films when I was at school and the first two were fun, but by the time the third one arrived it was already looking cheesy, even for a kid, what with the moon full of teddy bears, or wombles or whatever the hell they were.
As for the prequels, I caught bits of them on TV recently and was once again shocked by how awful they are. I mean, nothing enlivens a space drama like innumerable council meetings about things that nobody in the audience has any reason to care about. And at the heart of it all, there’s the sullen charisma vacuum that is Hayden Christensen. And Natalie Portman, who I’m told isn’t entirely talentless, gets buried under Lucas’s hokey dialogue and direction and is rendered floorboardlike. Whenever she and Mr Charisma Vacuum are together onscreen, supposedly breaking our hearts, the whole film sags into tedium and inadvertent comedy.
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Posted by: David | December 14, 2015 at 13:58
Only Vadar's voice was a black actor, the man inside the suit was out very own David Prowse, the Green Cross Man. It was a travesty that they didn't let him voice the part in my opinion. Darth Vadar with a deep West Country burr would have been a real joy.
Posted by: Pinkeen | December 14, 2015 at 13:59
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Posted by: David | December 14, 2015 at 14:02
Darth Vadar with a deep West Country burr would have been a real joy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQFho0_G1VI
James Earl Jones was worth every penny.
Posted by: Anna | December 14, 2015 at 14:10
Wow.
Posted by: David | December 14, 2015 at 14:13
Before being hired as an MSNBC host, Ms Harris-Perry taught Political Science and African-American Studies at Princeton University. According to Wikipedia, she was denied a full professorship because of “questions about her work.”
Work? People teaching African-hyphen-American Studies do work?
Who knew? ....
Posted by: Lord of the Fleas | December 14, 2015 at 14:43
I mean, nothing enlivens a space drama like innumerable council meetings about things that nobody in the audience has any reason to care about.
Had the exact same feeling. Seeing that 100% urbanized planet on which they met (IIRC) and the huuuuuuge sphere of the Galactic Senate where soooo many different representative of sooo many different civilizations was when it finally sunk into me what a complete waste the UN is. Which I think is the opposite of what that scene was meant to convey. Which led to the sense that they seemed to be shoe-horning a UN type message into the film, and that was when it sunk into me what a complete waste the Star Wars films had become. Up to that point, and perhaps I had missed something by being simply a fan but not a fan-boy fanatic, I was under the impression that the Empire was the only cohesive organized fascist structure in the films and that all those opposed were more of a confederation of semi-cooperating civilizations opposed to the fascists. I also missed where the Jedi were formally tied to a political organization in the original films.
Posted by: WTP | December 14, 2015 at 14:55
I think the problem of the prequels – aside from the appalling dialogue, wooden acting, dreary plot, bad pacing, endless meetings, etc - was that they were wholly devoid of charm.
Posted by: David | December 14, 2015 at 15:22
"Which I think is the opposite of what that scene was meant to convey."
I'm not sure it is. It seems to me fairly obvious that the Republic only became a despotic Empire because it had first become a sclerotic, corrupt bureaucracy - the first film really beat you over the head with that - and that the stuff about Anakin being prophesied to "bring balance to the force" meant wiping out the Jedi, who were complacent, politically compromised and out of touch, and starting again. Balance in the force can only mean balance between the light and dark sides, no? I think there were some interesting intentions behind the prequels, which could have shed an interesting new light on the originals, if only they'd be competently realised.
Posted by: Patrick Brown | December 14, 2015 at 15:29
Well, to be fair the little kid in the flying chrome Cadillac cutting down droids was a hoot. But come to think of it, this was after he'd been part of that idiotic levitating Ben Hur race with the jet engine horses. I get your point.
Posted by: Ten | December 14, 2015 at 15:44
No wonder Godfrey Elfwick retired.
Posted by: Steve 2 - A Touch of Stevil | December 14, 2015 at 15:52
I think we may be living in a post-satirical age.
Posted by: David | December 14, 2015 at 16:38
James Earl Jones also voiced a cartoon lion, who was kind and noble both before and after death. Does race hustler lady have an opinion on that?
Disclaimer: I haven't (and won't) read the piece linked at the top of the post, as just the snippet that was provided makes me want to kill. Myself, or others, or the entire human race, I'm not sure. Can nobody write properly any more?
Posted by: Argh | December 14, 2015 at 17:49
Appearances can certainly be deceiving! Although she spoke like an utter fool, she has held faculty positions at both the University of Chicago and Princeton, so she really must be very clever indeed. . . .
Posted by: Richard | December 14, 2015 at 18:01
Actors generally prefer to play baddies rather than goodies because the characters are usually more interesting and there are more interesting motivations. Even the goodies who are conflicted come across as more engaging than those who are pure. Fagin and Bill Sykes offer better roles than Mr Brownlow. Darth Vader is better than Han Solo who is much preferable to Luke Skywalker. Hayden Christensen was offered a potentially great role and partly through his poor acting but mainly through the lousy plot, he blew it.
On that basis, the fact that the most memorable character in SW is a "black" man ought to make our SJW happy rather than demented.
Posted by: TDK | December 14, 2015 at 18:16
It seems to me fairly obvious that the Republic only became a despotic Empire because it had first become a sclerotic, corrupt bureaucracy - the first film really beat you over the head with that
My bad then. I haven't seen any of the films in at least 15 years so I'm probably way off then. Except for the numerous "Han shot first" clips. Unless by "first film" you mean the Episode I and not the one from 1977. I should know better as I had a roommate back in the 80's who watched every HBO/whatevs rerun of the '77 flick to the point that he actually could "quote" R2D2's lines. I kid you not.
On that basis, the fact that the most memorable character in SW is a "black" man ought to make our SJW happy rather than demented
But then they would complain that all the preferable roles of baddies were being offered to white actors. It's the same tire schtick they've been playing for decades. It's all spin, spin, spin. All such "opinion" can be traced to the simple rules of:
1) Anything America or Americans do sucks unless they are criticizing Americans or logical contortions can be made to "prove" America sucks.
2) See rule #1, substitute "Men" for "America"
3) See rule #2, substitute "White People" for "Men"
4) etc. etc. etc.
Don't question me. I went to college. I know this stuff. End of story.
Posted by: WTP | December 14, 2015 at 18:54
. . . what must be one of the most lucrative voiceover jobs in history . . .
My googlemancy isn't getting me numbers, but I believe the actuality case is Not Even.---after all, the only thing Jones did in the SW movies was to read off a script for three movies, with potentially suspect royalty flow, and then off he went to other projects.
What I'm particularly thinking of for the, or otherwise a, most lucrative gig is, I Believe, some guy where all he had to do was announce This Is CNN . . . and As I Recall, he got paid for every time that short sentence was played on the air . . . . .
Posted by: Hal | December 14, 2015 at 19:29
I'm increasingly coming to the conclusion that Star Wars is a kind of Rorschach test. People see what they want to in it.
Posted by: Daniel Ream | December 14, 2015 at 19:32
Actors generally prefer to play baddies rather than goodies because the characters are usually more interesting and there are more interesting motivations.
Such as, if you work a lot, you get paid a lot.
How do you die this time, Daddy?
Posted by: Hal | December 14, 2015 at 19:45
Even though I’ll happily book IMAX tickets to watch the Avengers punching robots, I still don’t quite get the Star Wars films’ adult fandom.
My company is taking us all to see Star Wars on the 18th.
They also took us to see Avengers.
I love working in IT.
Posted by: dicentra | December 14, 2015 at 20:10
the fact that the most memorable character in SW is a "black" man ought to make our SJW happy rather than demented.
But then how would she leverage the opening of the new Star Wars film to engage in moral preening?
You really don't understand how this game is played.
Posted by: dicentra | December 14, 2015 at 20:15
I'm increasingly coming to the conclusion that Star Wars is a kind of Rorschach test. People see what they want to in it.
Indeed, though that can be true of all products of the human imagination. Leftists love to 'analyse' culture, and so they spawn various spurious disciplines; but entertainment is often no more than entertainment, just a cigar is often no more than a cigar, even to the Old Fraud of Vienna.
Posted by: Theophrastus | December 14, 2015 at 20:42
Only a crackpot like MHP can be traumatized by a 38 year old movie; but then she did wear tampon earrings.
Posted by: Elrond Hubbard | December 14, 2015 at 22:26
Reminds me of a conversation I once heard at uni about billiards: "The white ball hits the black ball into the pocket. It's totally racist."
Posted by: TimT | December 14, 2015 at 23:08
Indeed, though that can be true of all products of the human imagination. Leftists love to 'analyse' culture, and so they spawn various spurious disciplines; but entertainment is often no more than entertainment, just a cigar is often no more than a cigar, even to the Old Fraud of Vienna.
Bill Clinton might disagree. And Monica, for that matter.
Posted by: Randy | December 15, 2015 at 00:27
I enjoyed the 1977 Star Wars movie. Unfortunately, with each installment, I wound up having ever more questions. Like, "Why did they 'hide' Luke Skywalker with relatives on the same planet where his dad is from and with the same surname?"
Posted by: R. Sherman | December 15, 2015 at 00:45
The racist evil that some call "voice-over work"!
Posted by: mojo | December 15, 2015 at 00:57
Speaking of white black men, it appears famed SJW and organizer of dubious non-profits, Shaun King, came out as a genuine trans-black.
At least until he got back to
covering his tracksdeleting tweets last night. His struggle, however, is real, it is hard to convince people you were born a poor black child when both your parents are white.Posted by: Farnsworth M Muldoon | December 15, 2015 at 01:30
at uni about billiards: "The white ball hits the black ball into the pocket. It's totally racist."
I'm inclined to agree. I was taught that the key to pool was taking care of whitey.
Posted by: WTP | December 15, 2015 at 02:24
Wasn't Steve martin born a poor black child?
Posted by: PiperPaul | December 15, 2015 at 03:07
But was he culturally-black, though?
Posted by: Q30 | December 15, 2015 at 03:50
"I think the problem of the prequels – aside from the appalling dialogue, wooden acting, dreary plot, bad pacing, endless meetings, etc - was that they were wholly devoid of charm."
Perhaps that is where the appeal of projects such as fans restoring the 'original' Star Wars lies - it's an exercise inherently intertwined with nostalgia for youth, and the way the cute original creations of Lucas somehow embedded so many of the cultural assumptions of the 70s - the robots with all their flashing knobs and widgets, the vast computer systems and machinery of the Death Star - it's all so video era, so pre-internet. That's a central dilemma of science fiction - the future is obsolete already, and we haven't even got to it yet.
Posted by: TimT | December 15, 2015 at 06:53
'I think the problem of the prequels – aside from the appalling dialogue, wooden acting, dreary plot, bad pacing, endless meetings, etc - was that they were wholly devoid of charm'.
They were dire.
I think that George Lucas had an impressive imagination to actually create his fictional universe, but he cannot write dialogue, and he is in desperate need of advice when it comes to character creation. The inclusion of creatures intended for marketing purposes (the Ewoks, Jar-Jar etc) also screws things up.
Incidentally, Lucas used the clout and money he made from 'Star Wars' to help resuscitate Akira Kurosawa's career, which had gone badly awry. Lucas had of course been 'inspired' by 'The Hidden Fortress', was a big fan of Kurosawa, and was appalled when he found out he was on his uppers, and couldn't get a Japanese studio to fund any of his work. So Lucas cajoled Twentieth Century Fox to persuade some of its Japanese counterparts to get Kurosawa back into film-making, and the end results were 'Kagemusha' and 'Ran' (Francis Ford Coppola was a co-producer for the former).
So there you go. Lucas, for all his sins, helped one of the greatest directors in world cinema at a time he was in need of all the help he could get. I wonder what great things Melissa Harris-Perry has done in her life?
Posted by: sackcloth and ashes | December 15, 2015 at 07:10
I wonder what great things Melissa Harris-Perry has done in her life?
She’s healing the nation with her racial paranoia.
Posted by: David | December 15, 2015 at 07:20
I’m still trying to untangle Ms Harris-Perry’s line of reasoning, such as it is. She seems to believe that when Seventies audiences thought of Darth Vader, dark lord of the Sith, they were unanimously imagining a black guy inside the all-covering costume. As a child, the pigmentation of the person inside the respirator didn’t occur to me. And when I later learned that a black actor was doing the voice, I still didn’t imagine James Earl Jones stomping around and waving his gloved fist at escaping spacecraft.
Posted by: David | December 15, 2015 at 08:08
Darth, off-duty.
He carries an inhaler.
Posted by: David | December 15, 2015 at 08:23
Melissa Harris-Perry bears a superficial resemblance to that pioneering trans-racial, Rachel Dolezal. Are they, by any chance, related?
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/dec/13/rachel-dolezal-i-wasnt-identifying-as-black-to-upset-people-i-was-being-me
Posted by: Theophrastus | December 15, 2015 at 08:45
I'm increasingly coming to the conclusion that Star Wars is a kind of Rorschach test. People see what they want to in it.
Such as Jar Jar Binks being a Sith Lord.
Posted by: Tim Newman | December 15, 2015 at 09:57
Incidentally, Lucas used the clout and money he made from 'Star Wars' to help resuscitate Akira Kurosawa's career, which had gone badly awry.
I enjoy Dersu Uzala even though, as I understand it, Kurosawa hated working with the Soviets. (Who can blame him, I suppose?)
Posted by: Ted S., Catskill Mtns., NY, USA | December 15, 2015 at 10:09
Somehow I missed this all in my childhood. Maybe I watched a bit of it but I think I slept through that. Now I have to watch this stuff with my son and I just think it is horrible. Horrible script, sets look like something cut out of polystyrene blocks by preschoolers. Darth Vader- supposed to be frightening? My 11 year old looks more convincing in a Scream mask. And as mentioned above, meetings and exposition on and on and on. And the new films - huh? - it's supposed to be dramatic and heart-wrenching when thousands of little cartoon soldiers attacks thousands of other cartoon soldiers?
Posted by: hUgO | December 15, 2015 at 11:04
I thought everyone new Darth Vader was the Green Cross Code Man. Can someone superimpose a crossing lollipop sign over his light sabre?
Posted by: I sneeze in threes | December 15, 2015 at 12:27
'She’s healing the nation with her racial paranoia'.
She looks like she's meeting Ron Jeremy.
Posted by: sackcloth and ashes | December 15, 2015 at 14:54
I had to Google Ron Jeremy.
I learned something today.
Posted by: David | December 15, 2015 at 15:01
Was James Earl Jones available for comment? I strongly suspect he would have dismissed this rather quickly.
Posted by: Shawn L. | December 15, 2015 at 16:59
She looks like she's meeting Ron Jeremy.
I don't know, I suspect he has higher standards.
Posted by: Farnsworth M Muldoon | December 15, 2015 at 20:59
Jeebus Jumping Chreerist, why is she so stupid??? It's a mask, moron!
Posted by: Quint&Jessel, Sea of Azof, Bly, UK | December 15, 2015 at 21:41
Plus, he was white the whole time! Did she not see any prequels???
Posted by: Quint&Jessel, Sea of Azof, Bly, UK | December 15, 2015 at 21:42
Never mind Darth Vader, I'm surprised she wasn't more upset about Lando Calrissian. Of course it would be the black guy who betrayed them!
(I like Lando, myself. The poor guy was just in a no win situation.)
Posted by: Caroline | December 15, 2015 at 22:11
'I had to Google Ron Jeremy'.
Hopefully not on a work computer.
'I learned something today'.
Glad to be of service.
Posted by: sackcloth and ashes | December 15, 2015 at 23:00
I learned something today.
You found out who the other Hedgehog is?
Heh.
Posted by: Spiny Norman | December 16, 2015 at 00:12
I was just reading about the Lucas/Spielberg relationship. It's impressive, too, how Lucas had the wisdom to sit back and let Spielberg take the Indiana Jones project where he wanted it to go, including in those points where Spielberg's vision for the character differed greatly from Lucas's vision.
Posted by: TimT | December 16, 2015 at 04:36
I've never been a fan of Star Wars to be honest, even as a 14 year-old seeing it in 1977 it struck me as poorly-written nonsense.
Anyway, as usual, Milo explains it better:
http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2015/12/11/star-wars-is-garbage/
Posted by: Jonathan | December 16, 2015 at 17:26
Except when Spielberg wanted to go with crystal aliens; Lucas should have stopped that...
Posted by: TomJ | December 16, 2015 at 17:47
I loved Star Wars as a kid, but the fact still remains that Lucas completely ripped off the storyboards for Jodorowsky's "Dune".
Posted by: Wildgoose | December 16, 2015 at 18:30
You found out who the other Hedgehog is?
Beg pardon?
Posted by: Hedgehog | December 16, 2015 at 18:38
Word on the street is that they find the skeletal remains of Jar-Jar Binks on Tatooine.
I hope the audience erupts in cheers, should such be the case.
Posted by: dicentra | December 18, 2015 at 00:23
Perhaps it's a reflection on my low opinion of the prequels, or a tell on my moral depravity, but Jar-Jar Binks is the best thing I remember about that installment.
Posted by: WTP | December 18, 2015 at 03:04
Jar Jar's the only thing I remember, aside from Hayden Christensen's wooden face.
Posted by: Quint&Jessel, Sea of Azof, Bly, UK | December 18, 2015 at 06:01