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October 11, 2016

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David

There are four lights.

In effect, and like so many of her peers, Ms Fabello is a trafficker in pretentious guilt – that’s her leverage, the basis of her status. And so “all men” must be scolded and told they should feel guilty, or at least pretend to feel guilty, even if they have nothing whatsoever to feel guilty about. Vicarious guilt will do, apparently. Those sufficiently credulous to comply with such demands will quickly become unrealistic and absurd. Just like Ms Fabello and her admirers.

Jim Whyte

But Jamie Utt, LLC knows how to up-sell: "The Ten Take Aways: Best paired with at least two of the workshops above, The Ten Take Aways leaves participants with a tool kit..."

Hmm...I strongly suspect Mr. Utt has as little to do with actual tools as he possibly can.

"I wonder how long before they claim that Milo isn't a real gay man?"

Well, under Shaidle's Rule ("When I say 'gay', I just mean it like 'retarded'") Milo -- not to mention mine host -- might be travelling on the other bus, but he is certainly not a legitimate target for the epithet.

“It’s important that I situate myself within my positionality.”

Yes, there is a shorter version of that instruction, physically impossible for some, and a sight well worth seeing if the subject can do it.

Burnsie

Mr. "Full Stop" Utt has that smarmy look that reminds me of the famous feminist professor Hugo Schwyzer who, rather inconveniently, once attempted to murder his girlfriend in a violent manner and almost succeeded.

So if Utt talks about violence against women, I have no doubt that he himself is quite capable of it. I'll take his word on it, even as he blames it all on the patriarchy.

Of course, the assertion that all men are inherently violent is typical liberal projection. But it's working for him. He's found women who fall for his act and even pay for it, the gullible things. I guess con artists do what con artists do.

David

Speaking of “social justice” and the kinds of personalities it attracts, here’s a telling moment.

R. Sherman

Regarding the "telling moment," imagine if that person was in a position of real power.

WTP

A bit off topic, yet is it? A story from 2008 that I would have thought I had heard, given my penchant for Timothy Treadwell stories, but oddly I don't remember...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pippa_Bacca

Jeff Guinn
[Steve2 - a Touch of Stevil:] But when the police arrived I simply showed them my White Male Privilege Platinum card and they took my word for it that I acted in self defence.

Sheesh, you don't call, you don't write. What, do we have to beg?

Greg Allan

Feminists have always been traditionalists and are demonstrating one of humanity's oldest traditions. Women get things done by nagging men into doing those things for them.

Darleen

Another blow struck against toxic masculinity.

#triggerwarning

Jenny R.

As a member of Homo sapiens, a woman, and an English composition teacher I don't know if I should be more disgusted by their self-absorbed lack of compassion and wisdom that are supposed to be the reported trademarks of my species; their besmirching of my gender by ruthlessly attacking the other gender, which for the most part I have not one wit of problem with and in fact most enjoyable to have around; or the fact that they can't write worth a damn (and are supposedly academics).

dicentra

here’s a telling moment.

Commenter "kolar" calls her "Smuglypuff."

That's one of you, isn't it? "kolar" has got to be someone from this site.

Fred the Fourth

“It’s important that I situate myself within my positionality.”
I just can't get away from this line.
I know it's a waste of time to analyse guff, but that "situate myself within my positionality" has a kind of brainwashed perfection about it.
Undefined and undefinable terms, reflexive in that special Alice-down-the-rabbit-hole way, the rolling sound of profundity, the extra syllables, the pretense at introspection, the carefully vocalized "caring" about those about us.
I think I'll just avail myself of one of those old-fashioned bits of jargon...

Sod off, swampy.

Vince N

The Ten Take Aways: Best paired with at least two of the workshops above, The Ten Take Aways leaves participants with a tool kit...

I once had The Four Take Aways but it was just three egg rolls and a chicken chow mein.

Hal

. . . Take Aways . .

Every single time I've encountered that, ah, form of verbal signalling, the use has been a blatant declaration that A) the subject matter is so totally incompetently arranged and written that summary is required, B) the one stating . . . Take Aways . . is so totally incompetently arranged and bewildered that summary is required, C) both.

Rather a lot like the rather irrelevant upscale where the user always has fantasies that others will mistake that for quality.

JuliaM

"Though Ms Fabello and Ms Khan don’t acknowledge it, it seems that ladies have made great strides on that front too, ..."

Out of the mouths of babes and...err...takeaway workers:

"A worker at another Southchurch Road takeaway, who did not want to be named, said revellers often behave “like animals” in the early hours of the morning.

He said: “We have had windows smashed and so has the place opposite.

Sometimes the girls are the worst because they feel like they have more rights than the men, so they will get involved."

David

“Sometimes the girls are the worst because they feel like they have more rights than the men…”

I’ve seen several incidents in which a woman, or several women, initiated violence against a man, presumably because they assumed the favour wouldn’t be repaid in kind.

I remember at school there was a girl who amused herself for several days by kicking random boys in the balls for no discernible reason, again assuming impunity. She tried it with me, and guessed wrong. And even though her shocked expression was quite gratifying to schoolyard me, there was still a strong sense of taboo.

Microbillionaire

Of course, the assertion that all men are inherently violent is typical liberal projection.

I think there's also an element of "defining down" violence to mean e.g. the fact that the average man is stronger than >99% of women. In any sort of athletic competition between men and women, women tend to lose, and lose hard. Female Olympic sports teams play about the level of male junior varsity teams. Men's potential for violence, and skill at violence, tend to be so far above those of women that a typical fight would be utterly one-sided. Combine with the constant provocation-of-men that liberal women engage in, and I can see why they might be a little concerned about men not holding back any more.

Jon Hants

https://twitter.com/AcademiaObscura

Andy

David@07.53 The same thing happened to me at school, one of the girls in my class had got into the habit of slapping any boy she had a disagreement with, maybe she had seen it in a movie and thought it looked cool but it got to the point that she thought she could do it with total impunity and had slapped 5 or 6 of the boys in my class,I decided in advance that if she ever tried it on with me I was going to slap her right back and eventually that's what happened,but what was most satisfying was that the teacher saw what happened and backed me rather than her.
I hope she learned that actions have consequences, even for strong empowered women.

Jonathan

She tried it with me, and guessed wrong. And even though her shocked expression was quite gratifying to schoolyard me, there was still a strong sense of taboo.

And that woman became Melissa Fabello.....

Fay

But then, I don’t think Ms Fabello writes these things in order to persuade anyone who isn’t already very much onside.

The lack of a comment section is a giveaway.

wtp

So on this four lights/five lights thing...Not having watched much STTNG I needed to look it up. Seems to me Jean-Luc Picard is just being a drama queen here. The Man says there's five lights, there's five lights.

When I was in school I took AP History class, the one that the smarty-smart smart kids took. Sometimes I wonder how I got in. It certainly wasn't due to any family connections. But most of our elites in the US would have taken similar with the same standardized final exam. In this class we were taught that despite the obvious, on the final test when confronted with the question as to what the US Civil War was about we must NOT say "slavery". This would be wrong, wrong, wrong. It was of course all about state's rights. Of course. Some 650,000 mostly illiterate men went to their graves fighting over a legal matter. There are five lights.

When I was in college, a required physical education course (yes, required undergrad PE for 18 year olds) had a test question "What is the most popular sport in the US?". We were told the correct answer was stock car racing. Never mind that the Super Bowl was watched by soooo many Americans that urban legends popped up about the strain that Super Bowl halftimes put on the nation's plumbing systems. Never mind that damn near every high school in the US had a football team. The answer was "stock car racing". There are five lights.

I would argue that the above two questions (among many others I might recall if I bothered) are not that important in the grand scheme of things, but considering that whether there are four lights or five lights is such a big deal is a bit of a stretch. Picard was just using this light-counting thing as an excuse to shirk his proper duties. Picard needed to get over himself.

R. Sherman

Peak Privilege

SumDumGuy

The Man says there's five lights, there's five lights.

Only if he's a straight white man.

Spiny Norman

Peak Privilege

It has become nigh impossible to differentiate parody and satire from sincere looniness. Peak Poe's Law.

Hal

'Ain't nobody got time for this. For real.'

Steve 2 - A Touch of Stevil

R Sherman - I was forced to deploy the "And BTW,you have nice tits" spell before things were resolved in my favor.

Hey, it worked for Mel Gibson.

Jeff Guinn - Sheesh, you don't call, you don't write. What, do we have to beg?

Stevils are never late. We always arrive precisely when there's jammie dodgers to eat.

Vince N

Peak Privilege

"For years, the majority of anything relating to sex — from pornography, to articles in magazines, to research into sex based disorders — has focused on cis, heterosexual men," [feminist Lauren] Ingram says.

That's because most men are "cis" and heterosexual. And women aren't as interested in pornography, which half the feminists think is horrendous anyway (and the other half think is liberating, meaning they can't get their stories straight).

Also, men are stronger than women, more likely to engage in crime, more likely to want to become CEO, etc.

Hopp Singg

Sex, by defn, is cis: xy + xx. I do hope it won't be necessary to draw a boolean decision table.

David

Meanwhile, in Australia, young minds are being reshaped:

Victorian students will be taught about “male privilege” and how “masculinity” encourages “control and dominance” over women, as part of a mandatory new school subject… By Years 11 and 12, students are asked to examine their privilege and ways that “equity” can be encouraged, such as catch-up programs, special benefits or entitlements for those who are not considered privileged.

Now children, hands up anyone who can you spell indoctrination

Andrew Duffin

...given that all newborns look like Winston Churchill...

Point of order: They look like Jimmy Hoffa.

Point of order: They look like Queen Victoria

Hedgehog

...given that all newborns look like Winston Churchill...

Point of order: They look like Jimmy Hoffa.

Point of order: They look like Queen Victoria

Mr. Muldoon had it right. It's Winston Churchill. The baby boom ended in 1964. Churchill died in January 1965. Coincidence? I think not.

Jonathan

And women aren't as interested in pornography,

Er, so I guess '50 Shades of Grey' was a home decorating book then?

The point is that women and men seem to be sexually aroused by different things, one is referred to as 'Porn' and the other is referred to as 'Erotica', but only one of them is considered to be harmful, exploitative of and oppressive to the opposite sex.

Alex

...given that all newborns look like Winston Churchill...

I was told I looked like Ed Koch (former NYC mayor, and the person who convinced my parents that conservatism actually kinda made sense).

Model-1067

Violence normalized through patriarchy? Boo fucking hoo, toots.

David Gillies

"Victorian students will be taught […cavalcade of bollocks]"

Given that female school pupils steam ahead of their male contemporaries early on and stay ahead up to postgraduate level, it's not immediately clear that The Patriarchy is much cop at entrenching privilege.

Rich Rostrom

Aaminah Khan: "25-year-old lawful evil social justice crusader and queer muslim feminist."

There's Dungeons & Dragons reference there. (D&D has two dimensions of character alignment: Good <--> Evil and Lawful <--> Chaotic.) It seems anomalous. Does she actually play D&D? Because that was a classic nerd thing, and has been almost entirely displaced by various forms of computer gaming, especially MMORPGs.

And calling herself "lawful evil" seems ironic; could she have a vestigial sense of humor left?

Professor Tugging

The point is that women and men seem to be sexually aroused by different things, one is referred to as 'Porn' and the other is referred to as 'Erotica', but only one of them is considered to be harmful, exploitative of and oppressive to the opposite sex.

Here here. (Hear hear?)

Publishing industry types are occasionally wont to bemoan the relative lack of male readers, and to treat the disparity as if it were quite the puzzler. Having worked in a bookshop, I can explain that the unequal weighting of the reading public is entirely down to women and their porn. If men liked to imagine hot girls instead of looking at them, there'd be gender parity.

Hal

(Hear hear?)

Correct. Definitely not here, here.

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