A Gathering Of The Pious

Lifted from the comments because… well, just watch: 

The video begins with [filmmaker, Ami] Horowitz interviewing a number of white people at a so-called “White Privilege Conference” in Kansas City, Missouri, and asking them if they believe that every white person is a beneficiary of “white privilege.” The white leftists say yes, with one lady saying that she feels “super guilty all the time.” In fact, a number of the white leftists Horowitz interviewed claimed that all whites in America are racist. Then Horowitz asked the same people if it was “wrong to judge people collectively.” They all answered yes, seemingly unaware of the obvious contradiction.

Mr Horowitz then visits a Harlem housing project to ask black residents their thoughts on the subject.

Via Jen.

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[Jen]

Fame!

[David]

Fame!

Use it wisely, madam.

One of the highlights is the interview with a young white woman attending the conference, presumably a student, who insists that “white privilege” is both real and ubiquitous, and that she’s “hyper-aware” its effect “every day,” and feels “super guilty all the time.” But when asked, she struggles to think of any example, any example at all, of how she benefits from it.

She then says, “Sorry, I’m not good at thinking.”

[NielsR]

I wanna cringe forever...

[David]

Your betters.

[JuliaM]

''She then says, “Sorry, I’m not good at thinking.”.."

Are any students, these days?

[Jonathan]

Always remember, these are the people in charge of our childrens education. Which is why we have so much of this:

Professor called "racist" by a student mob for objecting to a day without white people on campus.

[David]

Professor called “racist” by a student mob for objecting to a day without white people on campus.

I’m sometimes chided for discussing the ‘progressive’ campus left in terms of dysfunction and pathology. But look at the fruit it bears.

[Karen M]

Mr Horowitz then visits a Harlem housing project to ask black residents their thoughts on the subject.

Nonsense. White lefties will tell black people what they really think.

[R. Sherman]

Caucasians leftists prattling on about "white privilege" is their guilt-free way of believing that black people are simply Untermenschen. Sure, they can slap a patina of benevolence on their own racism but ultimately it's the same thing. It's Kipling's "The White Man's Burden" written for the 21st Century.

[David]

Nonsense. White lefties will tell black people what they really think.

False consciousness, obviously.

[David in Michigan]

Hillary!! There is not one day that goes by, not one, when I do not feel thankful that Hillary was NOT (and never will be) elected POTUS. Not one day. Just the short clip of her was like fingernails on the blackboard to me.

And to R Sherman: Your observation is dead on right.

David, your screen grab absolutely fits the liberal lefty hipster con man. I mean the color coordinated earrings and necklace, the beard with it's distinguished white streaks, the long hair ...... an aging asshat who's thinking about which of these young white chicks he's going baffle with his deep wisdom.... and sleep with tonight. I've seen it all before.

[David]

I mean the color coordinated earrings and necklace,

It’s practically an amulet.

[Pogonip]

Hi everybody,

Are you familiar with everydayfeminism dot com? It's great. David could probably get enough material for the rest of his life from that site.

Enjoy!

[David]

Are you familiar with everydayfeminism dot com?

Ahem.

[PiperPaul]

Hey is Pogonip stealth marketing for everyday feminism now that they're out of funds?

[Pogonip]

Busted!

Out of funds, my ass. Nuttiness NEVER runs out of funds.

For the longest time I thought Everyday Feminism was parody by a Swiftian genius.

[Pogonip]

Looks like David wrote his Everyday Feminism article right before I discovered him. Well, genius can't wait. 😊

[Stuck-Record]

R. Sherman. Absolutely.

White people need to really shut the f**k up. Which is why they've all gone to a conference to loudly and repeatedly shut the f**k up. Then they'll go home and shut the f**k up some more. Then tell everyone else they know to shut the f**k up.

Marvellous.

[Pogonip]

I always get the impression that such white people have never even talked to a black person. Or another white person. Or an Asian person. Or a left-handed Burmese lesbian worm farmer. Maybe if they'd shut the fvck up and listen...

Also, why do they think that potty-mouth = moral superiority? That does not compute.

[David]

Also, why do they think that potty-mouth = moral superiority?

As a snapshot of a worldview, or a glorified pretension, it is, I think, quite revealing.

[David]

And speaking of Laurie and her associates. “OMG. You guys are brilliant.”

[WTP]

So they are occupying prisons now? You know, in any conflict fate offers you a limited number of great opportunities. Can we not waste this one?

[PiperPaul]

Invite them to an asylum next if WTP's idea doesn't work.

[Pogonip]

I have a question about Great Britain. Is it true that there is an all Muslim town (Birmingham?) in England? Over here across the pond, Dearborn, Michigan, isn't ALL Muslim, but probably will be in 30-40 years if demographic trends continue unchanged.

[David]

Is it true that there is an all Muslim town (Birmingham?) in England?

Um, no.

[Pogonip]

Well, that lets out Birmingham. Thanks!

[Trevor]

Well, that lets out Birmingham.

For the time being. A couple of years ago (proviso: from memory, I haven't looked it up) the percentage of school pupils of Pakistani heritage alone reached 38%, overtaking White British as the largest ethnic group. Factoring in the other Muslim groups (Bangladeshi, Somali, various Arabs) it is clear that my home town will be overwhelmingly Mohammedan within my lifetime.

[Trevor]

PS: And Birmingham isn't a 'town'. It's the UK's second city.

[pst314]

If these white leftists feel so terribly guilty, they should resign from their jobs and give away all their property. I would be happy to facilitate this.

[Pogonip]

I call dibs on the hybrid Prius

[J.M. Heinrichs]

From "Stir Crazy":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRM9QtixFuQ

Cheers

[David]

Related:

To ignore race is to be more racist than to acknowledge race. I call it neo-racism.

Guilt in all directions.

[David]

Also related:

Sunny Drake tells us that if you should be mugged in a part of town where lots of black people happen to live, whatever you do, don’t call the police. Because that would be proof of your ignorant racism and “white privilege.” And if your refusal to alert the police subsequently results in someone else being robbed by the same mugger, most likely someone who lives in one of those “Black and Indigenous communities,” at least you can take comfort in the fact that you won’t be accused of racism by one dogmatic bonehead.

Naturally, Laurie Penny agrees.

[Jonathan]

This is hilarious:

Feminists in New York decide to hold a 'Women Only' screening of the new Wonder Woman film. A guy called Stephen Miller bought a ticket online and announced on Twitter that he was going to attend. Feminists go mental berating him...the only trouble is that NY laws don't allow places of public entertainment, including cinemas, to exclude people because of gender or sexuality. Hoist by their own petard?

http://twitter.com/redsteeze/status/868101918182313986

[R. Sherman]

To ignore race is to be more racist than to acknowledge race. I call it neo-racism.

The constant relocation of the "racism goalposts" is the surest acknowledgement that the battle against real racism has, in fact, been won. Now, the former victims of real racial animus are forced to compete on a level playing field, if not one which is tilted in their favor. Thus, that the Grievance Industrial Complex now carps on "micro-aggressions," "white privilege," diversity and the like, especially in places where Progressivism is the state religion, is merely a means to maintain power and/or cushy sinecures without merit or real achievement.

[Lisboeta]

Anyone else notice that, in the Horowitz video, the black residents interviewed were all real grown-ups?

[Pogonip]

The women-only screenings were mentioned on CNN, but the guy who bought the ticket wasn't. I wonder if he was admitted?

In American English, "woman" has 3 possible meanings: "adult female person," "feminist," or "lesbian." I think the screenings used the word in meaning 2 or 3.

[WTP]

The ticket reads Thursday, June 8, so we have almost two weeks for lawyers, journalists, etc. to get their stories together, create reighteous drama, and prep the troops for whatever plays out as being a victory, pyrrhic or otherwise.

[Darleen]

On Universities "God ... it's just pathetic."

[David]

On Universities “God ... it’s just pathetic.”

“We’re against the ruling class.”
“No, you’re baby ruling class members.”

[David]

Anyone else notice that, in the Horowitz video, the black residents interviewed were all real grown-ups?

It occurred to me that the Harlem interviewees would probably make for better company at a barbecue, and that this wasn’t an entirely trivial point.

[WTP]

“No, you’re baby ruling class members"

As much as I'm inclined to go along with that guy and agree with much of what he said, I gave up at that point in the 6 minutes. More tiresome speech from arrogant types who put more value into talking than doing. He taught at Harvard for five years was it? He helped create this mess. Way too many people coming out of these damned elite institutions believe in changing the world by telling others what to do instead of showing other how to do it.

[R. Sherman]

@WTP

Like you, I can agree with many of his points, i.e. the "corruption" of the humanities, but there are certain things which are troubling. (Disclosure: I didn't listen to his entire talk, but merely the six minute excerpt.) The emphasis on "articulation" seems to value form over substance. It's verges on elevating sophistry over true wisdom. Second, I bristle at the idea that (the platonic ideal of) the university, especially those like Harvard, are the only places where one can obtain this wisdom and/or "power," to use his term. In truth, history is replete with individuals who obtained such wisdom without the benefit of formal education. To use the current, trendy term, they benefited from "lived experience."

[R. Sherman]

On Universities “God ... it’s just pathetic.”

Related, regarding my alma mater. The insidious thing is that they're raising tuition at the stand-alone campuses, specifically the dedicated STEM university in Rolla, MO which has seen a dramatic increase in enrollment subsequent to the BLM fiasco in Columbia, to prop up/subsidize the main campus.

[Darleen]

He taught at Harvard for five years was it? He helped create this mess

If he was Cassandra then, as he is now, why should he be blamed?

[Darleen]

Second, I bristle at the idea that (the platonic ideal of) the university, especially those like Harvard, are the only places where one can obtain this wisdom and/or "power," to use his term

That wasn't my take away. He had just spoken about the huge opportunity given to such students - 4 years of freedom to choose to be educated - to Read.Great.Books.

No where did I see an implication that people who don't go to university can't/won't/are barred from Reading.Great.Books.

My late paternal grandfather had a passion for history. He was my go-to source to flesh out the bare-bones lessons I received in high school.

Yet, his formal education ended after the 8th grade.

[Darleen]

BTW here's the whole video, which I'm currently listening to.

Excellent section starting about 19:20 to 29:00 dealing both with fake university departments AND anti-science-based demands of gender activists being encoded into law.

[Pogonip]

Oh, frabjous day, calloo, callay! It's nearly the end of May. I just checked, and Everyday Feminism is still with us. Off to learn why trans women have menstrual cramps even though they have no uteri.

[Pogonip]

It's because the trans women are gobbling female hormones like they were M & M's and thus any little pain is magnified, and that is a known possible side effect of female hormones; I noticed it when Martial Arts class fell during my ovulations. (Statistically, the MA's are safer than golf, but you do get a few bumps here and there.). I imagine that with guys who are pretending they're girls, much of the pain is psychomatic, as well.

I was disappointed; that article wasn't up to E.F.'s normal standards of humor. Maybe they'll get back to normal once they get their hands on the full $50K. As of today, they say they are nearly up to $23K.

[svh]

As of today, they say they are nearly up to $23K.

I think our host is secretly bankrolling them.

[Pogonip]

And that's a paddlin'!

[David]

I think our host is secretly bankrolling them.

I’m just glad my life isn’t as complicated as some of you find amusing to imagine.

[Pogonip]

I notice that to the left of each comment, there is a Spirograph design, with colors varying. How do you get it to give you a little color variety?

[David]

How do you get it to give you a little color variety?

If you have a Typepad account, I’d imagine you can change the avatar to one of your own.

[Jonathan]

I’m just glad my life isn’t as complicated as some of you find amusing to imagine.

Meanwhile, in Davids lair:

[Darleen]

Can we back up the camera a bit? I want to see what constitutes contemporary lair decoration. Making notes for my future bunker.

[Pogonip]

Since a villainous lair needs a Persian cat, it also needs an industrial-strength vacuum cleaner. During shedding season you can see the clumps of hair floating around.

There is also the Furminator, a gadget that vacuums the pet itself. Industrial-strength clamps to drag the pet out from under the bed so you can Furminate him are available. Although I have seen several videos of pets enjoying it.

Every dog we ever had thought the Big Noisy Animal That Lives In The Closet was challenging it to a noise-off--we had one who would position herself in front of the closet on Sweeping Day and start barking as soon as you touched the doorknob. I wonder what they would have made of the Furminator.

[David]

I’ll just leave this here.

[Jonathan]

Can we back up the camera a bit?

Sorry Darleen, that could reveal classified information (i.e what brand of catfood David feeds Mr Tiddles).

[WTP]

If he was Cassandra then, as he is now, why should he be blamed?

Because we only hear from him now? As I said, gave up on him for similar reasons as R. Sherman, so didn't bother with the whole thing but does he say where he was when Larry Summers was run out of the presidency at Harvard? But more directly to your question, the attitude, the arrogance is indicative of these people who teach articulation, to use RS's word, over substance. Such leads to an inbreading of ideas that ultimately results in the Eloi culture we see in the "humanities" (jeeze I hate that word) today. Thinking on top of thinking feedback loops with no experience actually doing the kind objective things that humble us Morlocks.

[Pogonip]

Hey, that's one of the cute Furminator videos I saw! Is that your dog?

[Darleen]

does he say where he was when Larry Summers was run out of the presidency at Harvard?

Peterson at Harvard 1993-1997, Summers 2001-2006 ... as a clinical psychologist not anywhere near politics at that time (and he's only been on YouTube for a few years, what makes you believe he should have some sort of public display for your satisfaction? Do you have any evidence that he was even fully aware of what was going on with Summers and made a conscious decision to remain silent?

Or are you of the Silence=Complicity crowd?

I don't understand your hostility towards him - he is on the inside and is pointing out the sheer corruption of the humanities but he's not 100% the social media warrior you want with enough time devoted to it so f**k him?

[R. Sherman]

@Darleen

Your grandfather exemplifies what I'm talking about. Peterson spends a great deal of time, however, discussing "articulation," i.e. rhetoric in the classical sense, as a means to attain, retain and project "power," if not being power in and of itself. Because the university is failing, he advises young men to "go to trade school" to learn something worthwhile. It may be just a throw-away remark, but the implication is that the power referred to above is obtainable at the university and not at the trade school. Maybe I'm reading too much into it, but it caused me to bristle. And that's because I, too, come from a long line of people who were exceedingly intelligent and wise, but who did not have the benefit of a university degree.

[Squires]

I mean the color coordinated earrings and necklace,

Noticing the abundance of turquoise, my first thought was fake Pueblo/Apache/Navajo. I mean, otherwise it would be cultural appropriation, wouldn't it?

And in a way that would make it an amulet; an identity amulet.

[R. Sherman]

And in a way that would make it an amulet; an identity amulet.

If so, he's a piker. His is nothing like The Patriarchal Guild of Evil amulet which is available in the gift shop as you exit. There's a display next to the duty-free smokes and booze.

[Pogonip]

Is the amulet made in China?

[WTP]

Or are you of the Silence=Complicity crowd?

Mea culpa, but yes I am of the Silence ~= Complicity crowd. I give the man props for speaking up. I was not aware his time at H preceded Summers' there but that's not very relevant to my point. It is this arrogance that people who see themselves as The Thinking People have. Thinking is great. Thinking is fun. I am a big fan of Thinking. But the idea that Peterson and crowd promote is that thinking can be, and is, taught. And thus Doing is sub-maximal, subserviant relatively speaking.

Look, I am well aware of my limitations in the domain of communicating my understanding of things. My understsnding of my own limitations comes from doing the act of trying to get these kinds of points across. Unlike many similar minded introverted engineering types, I try. So forgive me if I'm coming across too blunt. But that is the world of objectivity..ok, and one martini and two glasses of wine..ok 1 & 1/2...but I digress...I completely get his points about the need to communicate effectively. We engineers and such are horrible at this. But ultimately, doing is what counts (hearing rumblings of plumbers, electricians, and systems operators questioning my self awareness).

[R. Sherman]

Darleen, with respect, labeling some objections to Peterson's remarks contained in the excerpt posted here, does not imply "hostility" toward him or many, many of his other points which are spot on. I'm glad he's speaking out and seeking to roll back the "long march" a bit in his bailiwick. But it is within his bailiwick. It may be that his remarks were directed solely at the audience of Harvard students, and perhaps I'm reading more into it than I should, but all the talk about the university being the repository of knowledge, wisdom and good for humanity, implies there's none to be had anywhere else.

[Jack Burton]

"Privilege" does not exist ex nihilo. It had to start somewhere with some people. I have no problem with others admitting to the world that my ancestors were more apt, more intelligent, more able, more sophisticated, and much more likely to come out on the winning side of any conflict with their ancestors. If they want to take it back 50 years, 500 years or 5,000 years I am up for that. The better team apparently won the privilege game and took home the trophy. The 2nd place team took home -- well -- 2nd place.

If they say the game was rigged, then my ancestors were smarter than theirs and figured out how to rig the game and theirs didn’t. If they say my ancestors were more savage than theirs then that means theirs were weaker than mine. If they say there were more of mine, then that means that mine were simply better at understanding how to use the environment and technology to sustain a greater population. If they say that my ancestors were better geographically situated that means that they were better realtors, able to find and hold superior territory. If they say my ancestors had bigger, badder, and more destructive weapons that means than their ancestors were probably stuck in a stone-age existence for 10,000 years past their time.

No matter how you slice it… they are making the claim for me that their ancestors could not quite hack it when it came to competition for the “privilege” of being on top. They were weaker, ineffective, and overall a fine example of Darwinism in action. Seems to me as if they are pointing the "finger of blame" at the wrong set of ancestors. I'd suggest they have a heartfelt talk with their grandma and grandpa and ask them why ~their~ grandmas and grandpas were so pitiful in the game of life.

Now understand that ~this~ is how ~they~ see the world. This is what ~they~ are admitting happened. Unless, of course, they want to somehow claim that "privilege" just happened along one day from out of nowhere and someone picked it up off the ground and has been using it ever since. Should be an interesting and amusing read.

[Chester Draws]

I'm just seeing if I can change the picture that goes by my name. Walk on by please!

[Vince N]

Jonathan @ 11:13, about the guy who bought a ticket for the "women-only" Wonder Woman movie screening:

I read some of the Twitter page. It demonstrates yet again that "liberals" don't think their own rules, when passed into legislation, apply to themselves. Because hypocrisy is their modus operandi.

[Hal]

that could reveal classified information (i.e what brand of catfood David feeds Mr Tiddles).

I seem to recall David stating something at some point about a camera recording in the bar . . .

[Hal]

A recommendation regarding getting a good night's sleep.

[Hal]

Oh. Dear. Really.

Hair today, ??!?!?!??!!!! tomorrow . . .

[David]

Oh. Dear. Really.

The opening of the article is predictably coy:

Terrorism, of course, is a difficult issue for the far left.

Which is to say, support for terrorism is “a difficult issue,” in that it will tend to be remembered and may be brought up later when the supporter in question wishes to be imagined as respectable and morally competent.

But for the Independent columnist, it’s remembering such endorsements that is “scummy,” not the kind of person who does the endorsing.

[David]

I’m just seeing if I can change the picture that goes by my name.

This is how it starts. I’ve opened the door to anarchy.

[David]

Oh. Dear. Really.

Somewhat related.

Because being reminded of claims you’ve made, and shockingly bigoted things you’ve said, is now sexist and racist, apparently.

[Tim Newman]

David, your screen grab absolutely fits the liberal lefty hipster con man. I mean the color coordinated earrings and necklace, the beard with it's distinguished white streaks, the long hair ...... an aging asshat who's thinking about which of these young white chicks he's going baffle with his deep wisdom.... and sleep with tonight. I've seen it all before.

Funny, I wrote about just such a phenomenon the other day. See the comment from Daniel Ream, also.

[Hal]

Oh. Dear. Really.

[Hal]

Oh. Dear. Really.

Oh, and also . . .

[Hal]

. . . and a history of hair.

So June 8th is indeed a bit off, definitely refrain from counting chickens, Etc., and I still get a thought that on June 9th entire teams of surveyors will be needed to map out the resulting metaphoric impact crater . . .

[Chester Draws]

This is how it starts. I’ve opened the door to anarchy.

Given how small the stupid things are, there's little cause for alarm.

One discussion site I am on uses the avatars as betting tokens. Two people, who may well be continents apart of course, need a medium of exchange that is quick and reliable. Hence avatars tend to have messages like "Chester is Awesome" and "I know nothing" for weeks on end.

[David]

One discussion site I am on uses the avatars as betting tokens.

Here, we use kidneys, false eyes and shanks of hair.

And the house takes 20%.

[ Rattles bag of false eyes. ]

[BackwardsBoy]

Ordinarily, one needs visit a sanitarium to find people who can hold two diametrically opposed ideas as true.