"Up until around the arrival of Daphne’s mother, it was reliably good.". I loved. Daphne's mother, but I thought the drunken brother was amazingly good.
Guest: Hello Roz Are you still producing?
Daphne's brother: She sure is!
I think I’d fare better on a K-Pop test, albeit unintentionally. The Other Half has been mastering foreign tongues, a process that entails our car journeys being enlivened with the popular beat combos of the mysterious East.
... the popular beat combos of the mysterious East.
My teenage daughters had me listening to that very song a couple of weeks ago. Not too bad actually, although your Korean or Hasidic? selection was pretty much generic globocheese that could have been produced pretty much anywhere East of the Balkans...
...generic globocheese that could have been produced pretty much anywhere East of the Balkans...
Globocheese that could have been produced anywhere. With the exceptions of 5 and 7, all of the selections used western scales and a ton and a half of effects. Traditional Jewish music is generally built around what is the harmonic minor (and its modes) in "western" music, whereas traditional Korean has a six note scale with no [western] second, or seventh, and a flat third (or not - there are only two variants). The Korean with the flat third is fun to slip in when someone is expecting that you are going to play a straight pentatonic.
My reference to 'East of the Balkans' wasn't prompted by the structure of the music but by the instrumentation and sounds. Nobody in the 'West' (certainly nobody with a recording contract) has made stuff like that for decades. My initial reaction was to think "I could imagine all of these being played at Borat's wedding".
Nobody in the 'West' (certainly nobody with a recording contract) has made stuff like that for decades.
Well, if you added in a little more horns and electric piano, you'd find yourself in the middle of a Eurovision Song Contest, but I guess they don't have contracts - yet. The stuff also sounds like a lot of the cheesier (but not Velveetish) noise out of Latin America, but I'm with you on the music for Borat.
... the popular beat combos of the mysterious East.
A belated thanks from me. You first posted this rather charming ditty under Friday Ephemera, I think. I was so taken with it that I sought out similar items, and in doing so happened upon another product of Korea whose simple life-affirming essence brings me much joy: meet Emily Kim, aka Maangchi.
Apropos of the current topic somewhat, how is the access to Korean food in your area, David? I (in the US) don't have much in the immediate area, but when I was in college there was quite a grand Korean supermarket nearby (in Atlanta) and I typically visit when I'm seeing friends there to load up on supplies.
how is the access to Korean food in your area, David?
So far as I’m aware there’s one decent Korean restaurant in the centre of town, which I haven’t tried but comes recommended, and a handful of other places that aren’t specifically Korean but include Korean dishes on the menu.
There is, happily, an excellent Thai place just up the road.
Good Korean dishes to start with other than kimchi (which they'll serve you anyway) would be bulgogi, bibimpap, and kalbi, the first and last being "Korean barbecue" and more or less Korean barbecue ribs. "Bibimpap" is basic meat and vegetables served alongside rice, usually with doenjang (spicy fermented bean paste) on the side.
There are also some rather nice Korean soups and things, dumplings (either fried or steamed - yakimandu or gunmandu), and so on. Also seasoned rice served in an egg skin, and things like that.
Bulgogi is actually quite easy to do at home for the lazy, if one can find a market selling the marinade premixed and thin-sliced pork or beef.
7/10, before you ask.
Posted by: David | July 12, 2017 at 14:27
6/10. But ALL of it sounded Korean to me. I just threw in a few Hasidic guesses.
Posted by: Dom | July 12, 2017 at 14:37
Also...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGZV6fsotYo
Posted by: Alice | July 12, 2017 at 14:41
4/10.
Gutted.
Posted by: John D | July 12, 2017 at 14:58
Also...
Heh. I keep meaning to track down some reruns of Frasier. Up until around the arrival of Daphne’s mother, it was reliably good.
Posted by: David | July 12, 2017 at 15:01
3/10. Correction booth?
Posted by: Jon Powers | July 12, 2017 at 15:29
3/10. Correction booth?
I’m in a forgiving mood. Even, dare I say, jolly.
Posted by: David | July 12, 2017 at 15:31
5/10, but one of those correct responses resulted from my accidently hitting the "Korean" button instead of "play." What do I win for honesty?
Posted by: R. Sherman | July 12, 2017 at 16:37
6/10 and it was entirely luck.
The couple I thought were definitely Hasidic were most definitely not Hasidic. I was gunshy by track 4 and started to second-guess myself.
Waiting for the K-Pop\H-Pop crossovers now...
Posted by: Tom | July 12, 2017 at 16:48
"Up until around the arrival of Daphne’s mother, it was reliably good.". I loved. Daphne's mother, but I thought the drunken brother was amazingly good.
Guest: Hello Roz Are you still producing?
Daphne's brother: She sure is!
Posted by: Dom | July 12, 2017 at 16:52
Waiting for the K-Pop\H-Pop crossovers now...
I think I’d fare better on a K-Pop test, albeit unintentionally. The Other Half has been mastering foreign tongues, a process that entails our car journeys being enlivened with the popular beat combos of the mysterious East.
The time does fly.
Posted by: David | July 12, 2017 at 16:54
... the popular beat combos of the mysterious East.
My teenage daughters had me listening to that very song a couple of weeks ago. Not too bad actually, although your Korean or Hasidic? selection was pretty much generic globocheese that could have been produced pretty much anywhere East of the Balkans...
Posted by: George | July 12, 2017 at 20:04
Cheese or font?
http://cheeseorfont.com/
(Actually I think I found this here ages ago.)
Posted by: Jen | July 12, 2017 at 20:17
...generic globocheese that could have been produced pretty much anywhere East of the Balkans...
Globocheese that could have been produced anywhere. With the exceptions of 5 and 7, all of the selections used western scales and a ton and a half of effects. Traditional Jewish music is generally built around what is the harmonic minor (and its modes) in "western" music, whereas traditional Korean has a six note scale with no [western] second, or seventh, and a flat third (or not - there are only two variants). The Korean with the flat third is fun to slip in when someone is expecting that you are going to play a straight pentatonic.
Regardless - some traditional Jewish music with so much cultural appropriation you'll plotz.
Posted by: Farnsworth M Muldoon | July 12, 2017 at 20:36
@Farnsworth M Muldoon
My reference to 'East of the Balkans' wasn't prompted by the structure of the music but by the instrumentation and sounds. Nobody in the 'West' (certainly nobody with a recording contract) has made stuff like that for decades. My initial reaction was to think "I could imagine all of these being played at Borat's wedding".
Posted by: George | July 12, 2017 at 20:56
Nobody in the 'West' (certainly nobody with a recording contract) has made stuff like that for decades.
Well, if you added in a little more horns and electric piano, you'd find yourself in the middle of a Eurovision Song Contest, but I guess they don't have contracts - yet. The stuff also sounds like a lot of the cheesier (but not Velveetish) noise out of Latin America, but I'm with you on the music for Borat.
Posted by: Farnsworth M. Muldoon | July 12, 2017 at 21:32
4/10. I might as well be deaf.
Posted by: WTP | July 13, 2017 at 11:15
East of the Balkans...
And don’t forget the ditty named Balkan Hot Step.
Posted by: David | July 13, 2017 at 11:33
... the popular beat combos of the mysterious East.
A belated thanks from me. You first posted this rather charming ditty under Friday Ephemera, I think. I was so taken with it that I sought out similar items, and in doing so happened upon another product of Korea whose simple life-affirming essence brings me much joy: meet Emily Kim, aka Maangchi.
Posted by: Trevor | July 13, 2017 at 15:36
Maangchi
And speaking of Korean cooking, don’t forget the odd social phenomenon of Mukbang.
Posted by: David | July 13, 2017 at 15:43
Apropos of the current topic somewhat, how is the access to Korean food in your area, David? I (in the US) don't have much in the immediate area, but when I was in college there was quite a grand Korean supermarket nearby (in Atlanta) and I typically visit when I'm seeing friends there to load up on supplies.
Posted by: Sporkatus | July 13, 2017 at 15:53
how is the access to Korean food in your area, David?
So far as I’m aware there’s one decent Korean restaurant in the centre of town, which I haven’t tried but comes recommended, and a handful of other places that aren’t specifically Korean but include Korean dishes on the menu.
There is, happily, an excellent Thai place just up the road.
Posted by: David | July 13, 2017 at 16:01
Good Korean dishes to start with other than kimchi (which they'll serve you anyway) would be bulgogi, bibimpap, and kalbi, the first and last being "Korean barbecue" and more or less Korean barbecue ribs. "Bibimpap" is basic meat and vegetables served alongside rice, usually with doenjang (spicy fermented bean paste) on the side.
There are also some rather nice Korean soups and things, dumplings (either fried or steamed - yakimandu or gunmandu), and so on. Also seasoned rice served in an egg skin, and things like that.
Bulgogi is actually quite easy to do at home for the lazy, if one can find a market selling the marinade premixed and thin-sliced pork or beef.
Posted by: Sporkatus | July 13, 2017 at 16:15
Bulgogi is actually quite easy to do at home
Given my cooking and its limits, it’s easier to get in the car and have someone else do it, properly.
Posted by: David | July 13, 2017 at 16:20
...the first and last being "Korean barbecue"...
OTOH, Korean girls try American BBQ, and former North Koreans try American BBQ.
Posted by: Farnsworth M. Muldoon | July 13, 2017 at 16:31
See, now I’m hungry.
Posted by: David | July 13, 2017 at 16:42
Posted by: Sporkatus | July 13, 2017 at 16:49
Kimchi!
Posted by: PiperPaul | July 13, 2017 at 16:58
While we are discussing all things Korean, let's not forget one of David's discoveries, Luna Lee and her Gayageum
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfOHjeI-Bns
Posted by: ACTOldFart | July 14, 2017 at 00:28
6/10. I'm quite pleased with that.
Posted by: Captain Nemo | July 14, 2017 at 01:50