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March 27, 2018

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Mike

And so we arrive at the contradiction of feminists who denounce “toxic masculinity” as both all-pervasive and a fundamental evil, at least among white people, while simultaneously endorsing fatherlessness and family instability, i.e., the most obvious causes of the behaviour they claim to dislike.

That.

David

That.

As Brad Wilcox notes here in some detail, absent fathers and “deconstructed” families – the ones that Laurie and her peers enthuse about – can also have hugely damaging effects on girls and young women.

But hey, being a feminist, Laurie cares.

I sneeze in threes

http://www.skepticat.org/2018/03/truth-is-the-new-hate-speech/ It’s all kicking off in the skeptic community regarding trans and transphobia.

Jen

today’s hashtags blame identity-group discrimination for pay differentials when perfectly logical alternative explanations are readily available.

Big stars get big pay cheques.

I. Am. Shocked.

I sneeze in threes

David, can you check the spam filter?

David

Freed.

Adam

To radical feminists, toxic is not one of many forms of masculinity. It is the definition of it.

David

I. Am. Shocked.

It’s comical how often such complaints boil down to some variant of, “But why isn’t the support band paid as much as the headline act?”

I remember seeing something in the Guardian about the Iron Man films and how supposedly sexist and outrageous it is that Robert Downey Jr is paid more than Gwyneth Paltrow. As if status, reputation and market value – the likelihood of putting bums on seats - were somehow irrelevant. (It’s worth noting that for the first film, Downey was paid around $500,000, a fraction of his eight-figure fees for subsequent films, and much less than that of supporting actor Terrence Howard, who was paid over $3M and at the time was deemed less risky and of greater value.)

And while Iron Man films attract massive global audiences, I doubt that the bulk of those buying tickets are doing so in order to follow the thrilling adventures of Pepper Potts, minor character, as portrayed by Ms Paltrow. (Incidentally, Scarlet Johansson, who plays the Black Widow, a more marketable proposition, is the second-highest paid actor in the Avengers films, with a fee that dwarfs those of her male colleagues, excluding Downey.)

Charlie Suet

Actors tend to be socialists of the most childish sort, but they're engaged in a very individualistic and cut-throat profession. If you can build a personal brand then you can command a higher salary, because it is assumed that that will put more bums on seats. If there are more parts being offered to you as a result of your past success, your agent can presumably sell you at a higher rate.

If actresses could be honest with themselves, they don't want equal pay and they certainly don't want to be paid by the work they put in on the project. They want equality of opportunity - the chance to be given enough meaty parts (fnarr fnarr) to build the kind of CV actors can. That is precisely what Foy got, and there's a lot more excitement over her career than Matt Smith's at the moment.

PiperPaul

"The term may have first been popularised"

I think the Progs must have an army of terminology scrapers that find things and go, "Hmmm, that sounds cool and insightful, let's repurpose that for our own ends and make the original concept/meaning obscure." And since they virtually own so much of the media/culture...

R. Sherman

...while simultaneously endorsing fatherlessness and family instability, i.e., the most obvious causes of the behaviour they claim to dislike.

As you note, the shifting goalposts among the likes of Laurie Penny is a wonder to behold. The single mother household is the pinnacle of social evolution brought forward by wise matriarchs. But less than ideal outcomes resulting therefrom are the fault of "toxic" males, who aren't involved by definition. Not to mention that those children who grow up in loving, stable, two parent households are deemed "privileged" because their lives tend to be better off than those from single parent homes, thereby necessitating the destruction of marriage and family. How these people continue to command a place in the public square is beyond my comprehension.

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the thrilling adventures of Pepper Potts, minor character,

Great name for a spin-off comic.

Y. Knott

"If you can build a personal brand then you can command a higher salary, because it is assumed that that will put more bums on seats."

- It may be called a "meritocracy"; and I note with wry disillusionment both how meritocracies are so successful at bringing the cream to the top, and how anathema they've been for the past many decades to every stripe of leftie from kindergarten ("Oh we MUST not award badges of merit, they make those who don't get one, feel so bad...") on through today's entire SJW movement.

The which, does anybody else find it ironic referring to SJW's as a 'movement'?

Richard Cranium

Cream rises to the top; so does scum.

David

the shifting goalposts among the likes of Laurie Penny is a wonder to behold.

See also this. Note that when confronted with statements of the obvious, say, regarding coupling and poverty, Laurie and her groupies start telling each other how “angry” they are. Which makes me wonder if they do in fact realise, albeit dimly, just how ruinous their own advice is to the people they pretend to care about.

The irony being that if Laurie’s own parents had lived by her professed values – abandoning stable coupledom, monogamy, mortgages, etc - it’s unlikely that she would now have a media career and be in a position to air those supposed values, at least as a public figure. As I said at the time,

Of course Laurie has the considerable advantage of being raised, comfortably, in a stable family by two middle-class parents with the terribly bourgeois values she now claims to hold in contempt. If instead she’d been raised in keeping with her own professed standards – say, by a disaffected single parent with multiple transient partners and no lifelong commitment - I somehow doubt she’d have been able to spend time at Wadham College finding herself politically and playing “riot girl.” In effect, and like so many of her type, our leftist guru is coasting on the legacy of values that served her well but which she claims to despise and urges others to reject.

But hey, that’s who she is. And so far as I can tell, it’s who most of her peers are.

R. Sherman

Of course Laurie has the considerable advantage of being raised, comfortably, in a stable family by two middle-class parents with the terribly bourgeois values she now claims to hold in contempt.

Let's not forget Professor Amy Wax of the august Ivy League institution the University of Pennsylvania, whose rather mundane observations about the correlation between bourgeois values and success were deemed deeply offensive by the Laurie Pennys of the world.

David

Amy Wax... whose rather mundane observations about the correlation between bourgeois values and success were deemed deeply offensive by the Laurie Pennys of the world.

Speaking of which, Heather Mac Donald on modern taboos:

The diversity imperative demands dissimulation and evasion. The academic-achievement gap, the behavioural differences that produce socioeconomic disparities, and the ubiquity of racial preferences must all be suppressed in public discourse, since they undercut the narrative that white racism is the driving force in American society.

Related.

Daniel Ream

It’s all kicking off in the skeptic community regarding trans and transphobia.

Oh, pfffft. I used to consider myself an "atheist" and a "skeptic"; as I matured I eventually realized that both groups are simply Angry at Daddy and are using their ideology as a way to feel ever so superior to the plebs who aren't as enlightened. That "skeptics" and atheists align so closely with contemporary leftists ideologically is not an accident.

David

pfffft

[ Wipes bar. Slides bowl of trail mix slightly to the left. ]

PiperPaul

"a way to feel ever so superior to the plebs who aren't as enlightened"

That's what Snopes slowly devolved into, although there was always an air of smartpantsness there.

pst314

Of course Laurie has the considerable advantage of being raised, comfortably, in a stable family by two middle-class parents...

And yet she turned out badly anyway, proving while such an upbringing is valuable it is not a guarantee of success. :-)

pst314

That "skeptics" and atheists align so closely with contemporary leftists ideologically is not an accident.

Yes, I noticed that too.

Tim Newman

Speaking of Laurie Penny, some lucky few will get to see her talk to fellow lunatic Rose McGowan for a mere £8. I do hope there's a video.

In other Laurie news:

Right now I’m rocking a neon blue buzz cut.

I believe I covered this in my novel:

The piercings should also have served as a warning, same as dyeing her hair bright colours. If someone feels the need to seek attention like that, there are deeper issues at play.

Yeah, I think I got that right, don't you?

Sporkatus

The Skeptic Community™ were already in full luxurious bloom last September on this issue, on the doctrinaire leftist side. Are you saying there is some pushback?

I have a timing frame of reference because last year's Dragon Con (which I attended) had on its Skeptic interest track of panels several on the wholly and clearly scientific basis (*cough*) of transgenderism, and how anyone against rote adoption of the Holy Talking Points was therefore Against Science.

In other words, last year it had been added to the regular repertoire of Things Dad and Those Horrible Xtianists Are Wrong About and Evil.

David

I do hope there’s a video.

McGowan is a film-maker, thought leader and agent of change… a millennial icon, fearless activist, and unstoppable force for change who is determined to… dismantle the concept of fame, shine a light on a multibillion-dollar business built on systemic misogyny, and empower people everywhere to wake up and be BRAVE.

I wonder. Is there any level of flattery or self-congratulation that would be… embarrassing?

Sporkatus

As an aside, the Skeptic track occasionally has panels regarding the imaginative side of fiction (the ostensible overarching purpose of the con), but all too often the fare consists of the aforementioned I Hate You, Dad in toto. When it's not taking a year off and shrieking at the paranormal track and their panels on Bigfoot instead.

Daniel Ream

all too often the fare consists of the aforementioned I Hate You, Dad in toto

I left the con scene over fifteen years ago because it was exactly that, and as far as I can tell had always been that. While I used to think it was merely pathetic, between Ed Kramer, the recent revelations about Marion Zimmer Bradley, and the various things I saw but didn't quite grasp the implications of at the time, I've since come to the conclusion that the con side of fandom badly needs the Carthage treatment.

Is there any level of flattery or self-congratulation that would be… embarrassing?

I think Laurie in conversation with Rose McGowan will be interesting. If I'm right about this, it's going to be a conversation between someone who was actually sexually traumatized and forced to keep silent about it, and a poseur adopting the trappings of victimhood for social status signalling. The differences between their demeanour should prove illuminating.

Trevor

I do hope there's a video.

I just pray Laurie will remember to bring tissues. Anything more is a bonus.

Tim Newman

I wonder. Is there any level of flattery or self-congratulation that would be… embarrassing?

I doubt it. Me, I'm hoping McGowan has another massive rant at a deranged, heckling tranny and Laurie gets embroiled in the resulting brouhaha. I see she's already getting shit on Twitter for not being woke enough to recognise McGowan's anti-trans past.

Tim Newman

If I'm right about this, it's going to be a conversation between someone who was actually sexually traumatized and forced to keep silent about it, and a poseur adopting the trappings of victimhood for social status signalling. The differences between their demeanour should prove illuminating.

You've got a point there. If I was in the neighbourhood, I'd drop by. I'd have to crowdfund the £8 of course.

Trevor

McGowan is ...

She sounds like a bit of a cocoa-shunter to me.

Governor Squid

"Hmmm, that sounds cool and insightful, let's repurpose that for our own ends and make the original concept/meaning obscure."

Now you're making me homesick for Protein Wisdom. Dammit.

David

I just pray Laurie will remember to bring tissues.

Sorry, I’m just shallow.

Governor Squid

Of course Laurie has the considerable advantage of being raised...with the terribly bourgeois values she now claims to hold in contempt.

For years, we Americans have been treated to stand-up routines riffing on the fact that twenty million Boomers all claim to have been in attendance at Woodstock, and yet all twenty million have moved Heaven and Earth to make sure that their own children never get high.

In hindsight, their sort of hypocrisy seems quaint; almost benevolent.

ComputerLabRat

Sorry, I’m just shallow.

My eyes! My eyes!! GAHHHH!


I know, no refunds, credit note only.

I may have to re-think my lunch break blog reading habits :P

R. Sherman

And yet she turned out badly anyway...

Remember the Bell Curve. Trends say nothing about any given individual. Someone always has to be on the "fuck-up" end of the spectrum.

Monty James

This has to be an extremely devious marketing plan:

Or maybe Guinness has a mole high up in Heineken's organization.

Monty James

A link? Bah. A snippet? Sneer.

Why not a cornucopia?

Clam

Ben Shapiro on broken families.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgTnbq8JvSk

Clam

In effect, and like so many of her type, our leftist guru is coasting on the legacy of values that served her well but which she claims to despise and urges others to reject.

That.

David

That.

And it’s not just her own background, and what it made possible, that reveals the lie.

As noted before, Laurie’s self-imagined role as a wordsmith revolutionary would be much harder to sustain without a great many other people cultivating those same despised bourgeois values and keeping things ticking over. A fact that Laurie counts on, despite her pretence. In effect, we, the bourgeois rubes whose values she disdains, are her safety net. The fact that few of us are credulous enough to follow her advice is what allows her to mouth it in relative comfort and security, knowing that the destruction of capitalism, marriage and the family unit (and all that would go with it), which she claims to want, won’t happen just yet.

Turk Turkleton

Identitarian entrepreneurs have identified a new niche market to guilt-trip: white people who use reaction gifs of black women. They're calling it "digital blackface," and you're never going to believe this, but it's extremely problematic.

Re: upthread, the atheist/skeptic web got invaded by intersectional entryists way back in 2010/2011 or so, with Rebecca Watson and "Elevatorgate" (accusations of sexual harassment/rape culture centered on an impromptu proposition in an elevator, basically). Freethought Blogs was the epicenter of the schism, where PZ Myers and his acolytes insisted that the Richard Dawkins/Sam Harris/Christopher Hitchens version of "New" Atheism was unacceptably white, male, cisgender, and Islamophobic. Also, any atheists who thought that arguments over religion were distinct from politics and should remain so were derided as "dictionary" atheists and run out of town, essentially. They tried to invent a new "movement" called Atheism+ (atheism plus social justice, etc.) which quickly formed into the usual circular firing squad, with only the most broken psychotics left standing.

Daniel Ream

only the most broken psychotics left standing

I'm not sure how you'd tell the difference, frankly.

It's been my experience that the most overwhelmingly strident atheists are the ones who haven't been anywhere near a practicing Christian in decades, and do not seem to be particularly ensconced in their own private version of A Handmaid's Tale. It's as if the more ethereal the bogeyman, the more terrified they are of it.

Boy, that sounds familiar.

Spiny Norman
the thrilling adventures of Pepper Potts, minor character,

Great name for a spin-off comic.

Well...


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Spiny Norman

(so late in the thread it seems off-topic now, but I couldn't resist)

Hal

It's been my experience that the most overwhelmingly strident atheists are the ones who haven't been anywhere near a practicing Christian in decades, . . .

What does christianity have to do with it? Particularly given atheism being utterly and entirely as much a matter of faith as hinduism/christianity/pastafarianism/islam/whateverian . . .

After all, consider the following: State the proof, with details, that there is no such thing whatsoever of any god or gods or goddesses, nothing paranormal whatsoever.

Without any such proof, pastafarianism/islam/atheism/whateverian/christianity/hinduism will continue to be examples of mere faith, the same faith, completely identical faith, and each varied practitioner of faith will continue to scream at the next one regarding their individual menu items.

randian

I've noticed that actresses complaining about the pay gap appear blissfully ignorant about how much younger they are (5-10 years seems to be a good estimate) than their male co-stars. I don't know about you but to me it would be a privilege to start earning at 19 instead of 29. I don't think I've ever seen an "introducing" credit for an actor, like the one Cameron Diaz got for The Mask. Many of these actresses are also models, which can be a highly paid profession, one mostly barred to men, so it would be interesting to compare total income (modeling + acting) between the complaining actresses and similarly aged actors.

David

Right now I’m rocking a neon blue buzz cut.

We must never forget this day.

Spiny Norman

Neon? She calls that neon blue? Bleh.

Damn, she can't even get that right...

iso

we, the bourgeois rubes whose values she disdains, are her safety net. The fact that few of us are credulous enough to follow her advice is what allows her to mouth it in relative comfort and security, knowing that the destruction of capitalism, marriage and the family unit (and all that would go with it), which she claims to want, won’t happen just yet.

Haha. That.

David

Haha. That.

To convey just how perverse and potentially ruinous Laurie’s lifestyle advice is, I’m going to have to quote myself - an indulgence, but bear with me:

Not too long ago, the endlessly entertaining Laurie Penny – who entertains us for reasons she doesn’t quite comprehend – pointed her readers to a breathless endorsement of the fatherless family. New Enquiry contributor Madeleine Schwartz dubbed this non-nuclear unit the “anti-family,” thus signalling its countercultural radicalism and general sexiness. We were told, based on nothing much, that “a couple cannot raise a child better than one [person] can.” Apparently, the “diffusion” of the family unit – which is to say, absent fathers, hardship and subsequent dependence on the state – “is one of the most exciting things to happen to the American social pattern since sexual liberation.”

Ms Schwartz was careful to avoid actual data and striking correlations - say, between absent fathers and children’s educational failure, poverty, dependency and criminality – and so, for her, the “diffusion” of the family unit sounded very thrilling indeed, as woolly abstractions can. Buoyed by her own imagined radicalism, Ms Schwartz went on to claim, again based on nothing, that conventional family structures “isolate” people, rather than, say, introducing them to a potential support network of aunts, uncles, sisters-in-law, etc. You see, raising a child without a partner - and therefore without at least half of that familial support structure - isn’t isolating at all. Because somehow the “community” will fill in the gaps. Or more typically, the state and its bureaucracy, at other people’s expense. And gosh, how radical is that?

The original, with links, can be found here.

Variations of the above are a staple of Laurie’s feminist schtick. But imagine if someone without Laurie’s middle-class background, and the cushion it provides, were foolish enough to act out these woke lifestyle fantasies. Say, a young woman on a rough council estate. Do we think it would go well and be every bit as glamorous and “exciting” as Laurie and Ms Schwartz would have us believe?

And this isn’t just a case of idiots diminishing their own prospects, and the prospects of their children, and making their own lives more difficult and prone to failure and dependency. If done in sufficient numbers, as Laurie advocates, the fallout spreads and, in time, a tipping point is reached. For single mothers, the state typically becomes a kind of negligent husband, one who doesn’t love you, and cannot love you, but whose cheques can be cashed. As Mark Steyn noted, “A society in which a majority of births are out of wedlock cannot be other than a Big Government welfare society.”

Again, a tipping point.

Joan

Because somehow the “community” will fill in the gaps.

AKA freeloading.

David

AKA freeloading.

Well, yes. But it’s radical freeloading, apparently, so that makes it okay.

R. Sherman

Because somehow the “community” will fill in the gaps.

Maybe it's just my bourgeois backwardness, but acknowledging that this new "exciting" means of social organization leads to certain "gaps" in outcome, which "gaps" Ms. Schwartz presumably wishes to avoid with the "anti-family," seems to refute her arguments at the outset.

And let us not forget, it's leftists who criticize things like parents sacrificing to send their children to private schools or even reading bedtime stories their, because such things lead to "privilege," something which causes unfair outcomes and discriminates against those who've decided to arrange their lives in conformance with Penny's and Schwartz's "exciting" advice.

One can't help but think that the "excitement" Ms. Schwartz and company feel is the same sort an arsonist experiences in watching a building burn to the ground.

David

One can’t help but think that the “excitement” Ms. Schwartz and company feel is the same sort an arsonist experiences in watching a building burn to the ground.

Well, it does bear a striking resemblance to a kind of rationalised malice, in that if you wanted to ruin someone’s life while flattering yourself, what would you do differently? And people like Laurie and Ms Schwartz, our supposedly radical gurus, have little to gain from successful, functional people with a grip on their own lives. And they have no incentive to offer advice that would result in more functionality and success. They feed on failure and irresponsibility, and the resentment that follows.

Tim Newman

We must never forget this day.

I always enjoy the adoring comments underneath. Not so much from the women, but from the noodle-armed strangebeards which occupy her timeline. You see this crowd in the comments under every deranged feminist writer. This graphic was made just for them:

David

the noodle-armed strangebeards which occupy her timeline.

Heh.

Tim Newman

And speaking of generally unpleasant, somewhat deranged, feminist writers, here's Natalia Antonova who I've written about before:

https://twitter.com/NataliaAntonova/status/977964189699493888

Of course, being a "playwright and journalist" she simply can't just go and get a fucking job like everyone else. No, if she can't support herself and her child by writing rather immature and uninteresting articles, she'd rather beg for money on the internet than go and do a job that actually pays. I am also skeptical that Brooklyn is the best location to move to when desperately short of money: yeah, I get her kid is sick but presumably there are hospitals and medical facilities in South Carolina, for example. Why do I get the feeling sonny's medical treatment was not the priority concern when she was choosing where to live?

I was hoping she'd start a crowdfunding page, because I'd be willing to bet her readers - like Penny's - are, despite their lefty credentials and sycophantic arse-licking, the sort of people who complain about paying for the bus home from a free night out.

David

Over at Tim’s gaff, a tale of romance.

prm

@Tim Newman - I see the white knights are out in force there too. Why it's almost predictable.

As is the Penny pic. I think underneath the self-loathing daddy issues Laurie there is something resembling a pretty woman; the self-denying uglification is predictable too. In five years we'll get the where-are-all-the-good-men articles. In ten it will be single motherhood after some undesirable whomever provides a gamete.

Tim Newman

I think underneath the self-loathing daddy issues Laurie there is something resembling a pretty woman

The most unattractive thing about her by a mile is her attitude. If that changed, and she took a bath, she'd be fine.

I think it was in the comments under one of David's (many) pieces on deranged feminists I first read that, while beauty is only skin deep, ugly cuts right to the bone. And as mate in RL said when were discussing how good looking a woman must be before you'd sleep with her: "personality goes a loooooooong way".

David

The most unattractive thing about her by a mile is her attitude.

Looks fade. Obnoxiousness is forever.

the comments under one of David’s (many) pieces on deranged feminists

I regret nothing.

R. Sherman

"personality goes a loooooooong way".

Many years ago during my college days, I recall an acquaintance whose bar-attention had been directed toward a physically attractive lady, returning to our group after a few moments and announcing, "I need some personality with my t*ts."

Tim Newman

I need some personality with my t*ts.

You can tolerate no personality, at least for a while. Most blokes have dated a dull woman at some point. But a personality like Laurie Penny's? You'd put an ocean between that and you, first chance you'd get.

David

I need some personality with my t*ts.

Any more of this locker room talk and we’ll be flicking each other with towels.


What?

R. Sherman

You'd put an ocean between that and you, first chance you'd get.

Fortunately, Nature has provided us with aposematism to give us a heads-up before we engage such a personality. See, e.g., photos of Penny posted above.

Tim Newman

See, e.g., photos of Penny posted above.

Indeed, hence the line I quoted from my book. Normal people don't need to go around with blue hair, and those that do are signalling something. Okay there may be exceptions, but as the mafia bosses at the end of Casino say: "Why take a chance?"

David

Normal people don’t need to go around with blue hair, and those that do are signalling something.

And probably not what they think they are. See also Ms Celia Edell, our “feminist philosopher interested in social justice,” who complains that people don’t take her seriously. Which is shocking, really, given that she oozes both competence and gravitas.

Adam

Suppose Guinness reshot the Heineken ad and showed the hearty dark beers sliding down the bar to dark skinned men while the last, pale yellow, light beer is caught by a noodle armed guy with a full hipster beard and wearing a faux lumberjack shirt.

Would that be racist?

Adam

Ms Penny strikes me as the sort of person who spends a lot of time composing her spontaneous selfies and then stares at them for hours.

R. Sherman

Nkechi Amare Diallo is an obvious anagram of "Heck Milo I dare anal"

From the comments to David's self-referential link at 14:39.

Don't ask, "Why?" It doesn't matter.

David

I dare anal

Which I still maintain would be an excellent band name.

Boatswain's Mate

Tim Newman: Normal people don't need to go around with blue hair, and those that do are signalling something.

It's called aposematism. A warning signal.

Boatswain's Mate

Re: Turk Turkleton | March 27, 2018 at 23:55

I remember all that Athe-Plus stuff. Dr. Richard "I am your intellectual artillery" Carrier (until he turned out to be just as sexist, in their eyes, as anyone else, allegedly having cheated on his wife and then claiming he was poly). PZ Myers and his legendary "ban-hammer" from FT Blogs of anyone who dared hold a contrary opinion about anything. And who could forget (although many already have) Becky Watson?

Oh, those were the fun days of YouTube. Thunderf00t's videos taking the piss on Atheism+, and especially Mykeru's videos on the subject. His vids from that period are still fun to watch, even all these years hence. Good times.

Tim Newman

Poor Laurie! Suffering to bring us her wisdom:

How I Stopped Worrying And Learned To Love The Abuse, Harassment and Trashing That Has Been My Daily Reality For The Past Nine Years: by me, a woman who writes words for a living.

I wonder if she's tried being nicer?

Hal

the comments under one of David’s (many) pieces on deranged feminists

I regret nothing.

No refunds. Credit note only.

Daniel Ream

Normal people don't need to go around with blue hair, and those that do are signalling something.

I met an...impressively tattooed woman in her mid-30s at a social event a few weeks back, and she responded to an offhand comment I made about one of her pieces by blurting out "My mother says tattoos are for sailors and white trash."

I assure you, my self-control was Herculean.

pst314

I wonder if she's tried being nicer?

Nice is bourgeois and inauthentic, and thus anathema true revolutionaries.

David

I wonder if she’s tried being nicer?

Laurie’s standard manoeuvre is to construe any mockery and contempt aimed at her, and at what she says and writes, as an attack on All Of Womanhood, and driven by “fear” of how radical and brave she is.

You have to wonder if it ever crosses Laurie’s mind that the ridicule and scorn might have something to do with her being an incorrigible fantasist and liar who regularly insults half the population, as if it were a credential, and says things like this, and things like these, and who then expects to be taken seriously as an intellectual powerhouse.

But somehow, I doubt it.

R. Sherman

I assure you, my self-control was Herculean.

I've told my kids, tattoos are only acceptable if one of the following is true: You were a member of the 2e Régiment étranger de parachutistes and dropped on Kolwezi in 1978 or landed at Iwo Jima with the 5th Marines in 1945.

Otherwise, just buy a decent suit, tie, shoes and call it a day.

John D

It's called aposematism. A warning signal.

*cough*

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/couple-more-400-personalities-between-12259376

Watcher In the Dark

Much has been made of Ms Penny being raised by two parents in a stable and middle-class environment, yet look how she turned out.

You mustn't forget though that when Ms Penny's proposed and agitated-for brave new world goes pear-shaped with a vengeance, the lass has someone to run to for comfort and protection.

Hippogryph

That "skeptics" and atheists align so closely with contemporary leftists ideologically is not an accident.

Well, you'll find there there is no shortage of atheists among libertarians and even conservatives. But they are less likely to interpret their religious skepticism as a social one-up on everyone else. Hence, the lower level of conspicuous preening over the matter.

Tim Newman

Much has been made of Ms Penny being raised by two parents in a stable and middle-class environment, yet look how she turned out.

Alas, that's not a guarantee. My book examines the case of a woman who went similarly off the rails in much the same manner, yet came from a rather privileged background and went to a top university. I reached the conclusion that might have been half the problem.

You mustn't forget though that when Ms Penny's proposed and agitated-for brave new world goes pear-shaped with a vengeance, the lass has someone to run to for comfort and protection.

Alas, her father passed away. We found this when she declared "all men are trash" and someone asked if she thought he father was too. She then cried foul, because he's dead.

Steve E

Right now I’m rocking a neon blue buzz cut.

She kind of looks like a lemur if a lemur had blue hair.

https://www.google.ca/search?q=large+eyed+rodents&client=firefox-b-ab&dcr=0&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=zZqX4bvnLPLMbM%253A%252CVtO0CrTAAZRWjM%252C_&usg=__3ZAlMD8OGZUu8gJlvaRu1uElsMM%3D&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjt3YeR7o_aAhUC94MKHenbD7kQ9QEIKzAB#imgrc=NDOP3P12XXoa4M:

tolkein

Note that Janice Fiamengo's lecture on 24th March 2018 was cancelled following (false) fire alarms going off.
https://pjmedia.com/trending/campus-barbarians-inside-gates/

Can you imagine police standing by and letting this happen if this was a feminist, or representative of Planned Parenthood or a Muslim imam whose event was thus disrupted?

pst314

cancelled following (false) fire alarms going off

That has long been a favorite tactic of the left, because nothing says "we care about free speech" than using dirty tricks to silence dissent.

Spiny Norman

Steve E,

A favorite lemur meme:

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David

Janice Fiamengo’s lecture on 24th March 2018 was cancelled following (false) fire alarms going off.

And the usual harassment and thuggery, which, for Mao-lings, is the sweetest plum, the reward for all their pretentious, utterly vacant piety:

Another thing that strikes me about these protesting hordes -- apart from their proclivity to break the law with customary impunity -- is the monumental ignorance they exhibit. The few protesters I have actually managed to talk to over the years have never read the works of the people they are shutting down… They are ignorant even of Herbert Marcuse whose theories they are aggressively putting into practice.

It’s sometimes hard to articulate the exact level of irony.

David

Janice Fiamengo’s lecture on 24th March 2018 was cancelled following (false) fire alarms going off.

I sometimes wonder if the sight of people like Janice Fiamengo, Christina Hoff Sommers, et al being harassed and screamed at by vain little morons might induce some flickering of unease among the morons’ so-called educators and academic bureaucrats. Perhaps they’ll register the optics and how such behaviour, and morony, reflects on them, personally, and what it says to the wider public. And then I remember the kinds of people we’re talking about.

David

Because somehow the “community” will fill in the gaps.

Re Laurie and Ms Schwartz and their radical “diffusion” of the family unit, i.e., single motherhood and that supposedly feminist and empowering dependency on the state, here are some of those real-world consequences that they don’t like to talk about. There is, you’ll note, no mention of a father, as if even to raise the question would be terribly problematic and just not done.

But hey, radical and sexy.

Via Tim.

R. Sherman

But hey, radical and sexy.

From some of the comments at that link, it would appear that "radical and sexy" precludes the possibility of delayed self-gratification. Evidently there is no moral component to the deliberate decision to make others pay for one's bad decisions. The sense of entitlement is breathtaking.

Turk Turkleton

Julia Kristeva was communist secret agent, Bulgaria claims

WTP

"personality goes a loooooooong way"

So by that rationale, if a pig had a better personality...

R. Sherman

Kristeva, 76, is the author of more than 30 books and worked alongside leading French intellectuals such as Jacques Derrida, Jacques Lacan and Roland Barthes.

Also known as, "The Trinity of Bullshit."

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Looks like there's no actual crime in Avon and Somerset.

https://twitter.com/ASPoliceLGBT/status/979340240925192192

David

Looks like there’s no actual crime in Avon and Somerset.

Cringeworthy. And the people involved assume that this kind of theatre somehow improves the image of the police force. Truly, they will strike terror into the hearts of evildoers.

Tim Newman

Bless!

https://twitter.com/PennyRed/status/979373037001863169

David

Bless!

‘Tis gone. What did I miss?

TomJ

The talk of attractiveness of one's political antitheses is, perhaps, a tad infra dig. I will only offer up one observation: the one thing that makes almost any face more appealing is a genuine smile.

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