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March 02, 2018

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ComputerLabRat

Oh man - the programming one is right on!!

And I thought that was mainly because I've never formally learned how to code, and I'm not a computer scientist. But my friend who is tells me that no, even he is on Google and Stack Overflow looking for how to do stuff he runs up against.

Pogonip

We covered eviction, demons (pay the exorcist or you’ll be repossessed) and darn near everything in between!

Fred the Fourth

On you kids with your "gogle". Weak-ass stuff. In my day we had to actually go down the hall and risk the wrath of the Guru face to face.

ComputerLabRat

In my day we had to actually go down the hall and risk the wrath of the Guru face to face.

eeeeeek! The stuff of nightmares! I am very glad I have the impersonal, anonymous interwebs for all my stupid coding question needs.

Boatswain's Mate

Reminiscing about the days before the TSA. [sigh] Ahh, those were the days.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/travel/news/how-air-travel-has-changed-in-the-last-100-years/ss-BBJIjta?ocid=spartanntp#image=4

marc in calgary

As expected, the performance art here at David's site is Chicago class. Yes, it's that good.

R. Sherman

Ahh, those were the days.

My dad was an engineer for what was then McDonnell Aircraft Company. When I was little (the '60s), we'd go for fun to the St. Louis Airport and walk onto an observation platform which jutted into the tarmac. Dad would point out the DC-6s and 7s, Lockheed Constellations, as well as the odd Boeing 707 and DC-8. I remember it was very loud and smelly, but it was very cool seeing all the aircraft.

R. Sherman

Bugger. HTML fail. Sorry, David.

Ray

Why do the cops bring their wives when they make an arrest?

Will

Tags?

MC

Class war.

Via https://twitter.com/Holbornlolz

https://twitter.com/Tent101/status/969276460459577344

PiperPaul

"the programming one is right on"

I took a Java course last year. I don't want to do that. Ever.

It's back to project engineering for me.

Hal

Oh man - the programming one is right on!!

Recent, very elementary, JavaScript homework:

// Set testGrade to get the loop started
var testGrade = 101;

// Start the loop
while (testGrade >= 101) {

// Collect the score to be translated into a grade
testGrade = prompt("What is your grade?");

// Test for 90 to 100 and an A.
if (testGrade >= 90 && testGrade <= 100) {
letterGrade = "A";
alert("Your grade is " + letterGrade);
}

// Test for 80 to 89 and a B.
else if (testGrade >= 80 && testGrade <= 89) {
letterGrade = "B";
alert("Your grade is " + letterGrade);
}

// Test for 70 to 79 and a C.
else if (testGrade >= 70 && testGrade <= 79) {
letterGrade = "C";
alert("Your grade is " + letterGrade);
}

// Test for 70 to 79 and a D.
else if (testGrade >= 60 && testGrade <= 69) {
letterGrade = "D";
alert("Your grade is " + letterGrade);
}

// Test for 60 and below and an F.
else if (testGrade < 60) {
letterGrade = "F";
alert("Your grade is " + letterGrade);
}

// Test for over 100 and not a grade
else {
alert("That is not a grade")
}
}

[+]

"Seven drones flew down the runway, each carrying a jewel-encrusted handbag"

https://www.theverge.com/tldr/2018/2/26/17052896/dolce-gabbana-drones-handbags

David

Morning, all.

Today’s terms to memorise are “Gender Studies” and “male feminist.

No, please, don’t thank me.

Sam

Today’s terms to memorise are “Gender Studies” and “male feminist.”

"the lie of the male erection, which is necessary only for the penis to be used as a weapon in rape, for, experientially, hard erections are neither comfortable nor pleasurable nor anything other than symptoms of the aggressive tenseness and rigidity of the macho man"

These people need some serious medication.

Daniel Ream

even he is on Google and Stack Overflow looking for how to do stuff he runs up against.

In my experience, all that's doing is increasing the amount of copypasta and cargo cult programming going on.

David

These people need some serious medication.

By the sounds of it, a visit to a urologist wouldn’t be amiss.

David

the lie of the male erection, which is necessary only for the penis to be used as a weapon in rape,

Setting aside the practitioners who are merely dishonest or incompetent, Gender Studies - and Angry Studies more generally - attracts a high concentration of people who appear to have mental health issues of varying severity. As above, there’s at the very least a tendency to extrapolate grandly, and in a manner that’s absurd, from what I assume is some personal hang-up or dysfunction.

Theophrastus

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2018/feb/28/hate-body-odour-youre-more-likely-to-have-rightwing-views

Well...lefties, immigrants and the 'poor' do have a tendency to be smelly...

David

Hate body odour? You're more likely to have rightwing views

And if you’re oddly fond of body odour, you’re more likely to be involved in performance art.

David

Meanwhile, in South Africa,

I wonder how many of those who saw fit to denounce Trump as a moron [for his ‘shithole’ remark] will be standing in line at the US embassy to beg for a visa in a few years as the consequences of their government’s policies take proper hold? Quite a few, I’d imagine.

Tim Newman, here.

David

Further to the above, note the slogan “healthcare is a human right.

Pogonip

Don’t the Angry Studies types EVER get bored with their “sexuality”? I don’t think I’d devote that much thought to the subject if I were a gynecologist, hooker, or scientist studying the mating habits of wombats.

pst314

And if you’re oddly fond of body odour, you’re more likely to be involved in performance art.

It seems plausible that people with a disgusting lack of hygiene might eagerly embrace an ideology that validates their defects.

Pogonip

Hey, what about the culinary blowtorch? Did it ever get a try-out? If so, what were the results?

David

Hey, what about the culinary blowtorch?

Ha. It’s still sitting there, untouched. I’ll have to dust the damn thing soon.

WTP

Re the "male feminist" and the blather about woody lies and tense rigidity, etc. If the original tweet is correct, that was spewed from the brain of one John Stoltenberg. This is not the product of some recent manifestation of the clown quarter. If I have it correct, original piece was written back in 1984. Stoltenberg wiki excerpt:

John Stoltenberg (born 1944)[1] is a U.S. radical feminist activist, scholar, author, and magazine editor.[2] He is the former managing editor of AARP The Magazine, a bimonthly publication of the United States-based advocacy group AARP, a position he held from 2004 until 2012.

Stoltenberg was life partner to Andrea Dworkin for thirty-one years (eventually marrying), although he considers himself gay.[3] He is a lapsed Lutheran, of German and Norwegian descent.

And people give me the crazy look when I say AARP is a left wing organization.

PiperPaul

"a tendency to extrapolate grandly, and in a manner that’s absurd"

Someone mentioned all the traditional, "real" subjects being already explored and the Clown Quarter is anxious to prove their worth by new, edgy, pop-culturally fashionable "research".

They think they're "doing science", because, well, just look at the stack of sophistry literature!

I'm not usually a fan of Noam Chomsky, but...

"We're just like the physicists. They talk incomprehensively? We can talk incomprehensively! They have big words? We'll have big words! They draw far-reaching conclusions? We'll draw far-reaching conclusions! We're just as prestigious as they are.

Now if [the physicists] say, "Well, look — we're doing real science and you guys aren't", then that's white male/sexist/bourgeois/whatever the answer is."

SumDumGuy

two ladies, some silver paper and a demonstration of the mechanics behind differential followed by a bunch of verbal garbage.

David

a demonstration of the mechanics behind differential followed by a bunch of verbal garbage.

It’s not, I fear, their greatest work. But then, what could compete with this?

SumDumGuy

It’s not, I fear, their greatest work.

Yes, the bar is set quite high.

WTP

the programming one is right on

The front half of that, that is what you normal people think we really do? Damn. I got married way too soon.

Also, JavaScript, like all non-typed languages, is the tongue of the Devil.

Pogonip

http://mysteriousuniverse.org/2018/03/trans-species-woman-returning-to-original-reptilian-form/

Farnsworth M Muldoon

Stoltenberg was life partner to Andrea Dworkin for thirty-one years ...

That alone would explain quite a lot about his lack of understanding of male reproductive physiology.

David

That alone would explain quite a lot about his lack of understanding of male reproductive physiology.

I believe they were married, if only in name, for reasons of health insurance. (Ms Dworkin’s chronic and morbid obesity took its toll.) But still, you have to wonder what kind of man would choose to associate submissively with a demented misandrist, volunteering to be exposed to her malign, unhappy presence, and why anyone should take seriously a man who made that choice. As if he might somehow be sane - and somehow an expert on more conventional, heterosexual relationships.

Sam Duncan

“Oh man - the programming one is right on!!”

You're doing it wrong.

“I've never formally learned how to code”

I'm always slightly suspicious of anyone who did. ('Course, they're all better than me, but that's not the point. I'm not sure what is, but it's not that.)

“experientially, hard erections are neither comfortable nor pleasurable”

I can't find the clip to do a pithy link, but what comes to mind is the scene in the Tony Hancock film The Rebel when his landlady (the incomparable Irene Handl) comes across the giant sculpture he's been working on.

“I call it 'woman'. It's not figurative, of course. That is how I see 'woman'”.

[perfectly-timed pause]

“Oh, you poor man.”

jabrwok

Tech Support Cheat Sheet: https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/tech_support_cheat_sheet.png

Spiny Norman

"Ne" has now entered the lexicon of university sacred words.

postimg.org

No word yet as to whether they'll require a shrubbery.

Spiny Norman

Gads!

s/b "whether ney'll require..."

(>_<)

[ shuffles off to the correction booth ]

WTP

trans-species-woman-returning-to-original-reptilian-form

Sssssss

Sam Duncan

“the lexicon of university sacred words”:

“Correct pronoun use is an easy step toward showing respect for people of every gender.”

No. Insisting that the rest of the world use your special “pronouns” (quotes because they ain't) is an act of supreme arrogance and dis-respect.

I still say all this started when people took foreign governments' protestations about what English speakers call their cities seriously. You don't get to decide what we call stuff. That's not how it works. We'll keep saying “Peking” and “Bombay” because it's our damn language, not yours. And if you want to call my home town your equivalent of “Shithole City”, knock yourselves out. Not my problem.

Jonathan

Hitting Hollywood where it hurts.

Send that man some cake.

PiperPaul

"Tech Support Cheat Sheet"

I'm Culturally Appropriating that. It will come in handy.

Hal

Also, JavaScript, like all non-typed languages, is the tongue of the Devil.

At one point the other week, one of the instructors cheerfully typed up a function for generating other functions . . .

---More or less translation, a coding function is a contained bit of code for tossing in some variable or two or something to get some generated result based on what is put in.

function glue(y, z, x) (
Connect together y, z and x in the order of x, y, and z
)

glue("pickled eggs in the ", "martinis, again.", "David has been serving ",)

. . . replies with David has been serving pickled eggs in the martinis, again.

---and supposedly handing back particular results is all that a function is supposed to be able to do . . . In languages other than JavaScript, when one attempts to write a function to generate a function, the language spits all over the screen . . . !

Pogonip

Sam Duncan: Hear, hear! Also those crazy new Romanizations of Chinese. I know “Beijing” is Peking, but other than that I never know what region in China a news story is talking about.

David

That alone would explain quite a lot about his lack of understanding of male reproductive physiology.

Dr Ben Eltham, a media studies lecturer at Monash University, rushes to the defence of our male feminist, Mr Stoltenberg, and his “lie of the male erection.” If you find Mr Stoltenberg’s blathering absurd, then apparently you’re “wilfully ignorant.”

Inevitably, Dr Eltham also writes for the Guardian.

Lisboeta

To what variant of gender/sexuality/whatever do Ne, Ve and Ey refer? I'm sure it's helpful to know that Ne, Ve and Ey like nem-ver-emself. Surely a more pertinent observation is: does anyone else?

Jonathan

Also from New Real Peer Review

The goal of women's studies is to train students to become human viruses that infect and disrupt other fields.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

Dr Ben Eltham, a media studies lecturer at Monash University...

...and his Deep Thoughts™ regarding feminism...

the joke is on you, I'm afraid, because it is one of the most important developments in the humanities in several centuries

"Several centuries". Right-o. As they say down under: yeah, no.

“the lexicon of university sacred words”

Wouldn't Ze and Xe be pronounced the same, like ZEnith and XEnon ? If so, how would I know if I was using the wrong one ?

Governor Squid

Also, JavaScript, like all non-typed languages, is the tongue of the Devil.

Non-typed? But that hacker guy was typing the whole time!

Richard Cranium
Sam Duncan: Hear, hear! Also those crazy new Romanizations of Chinese. I know “Beijing” is Peking, but other than that I never know what region in China a news story is talking about.

Sadly, "Peking" was supposed to be pronounced closer to "Beijing" in the first place. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wade%E2%80%93Giles

Richard Cranium
Also, JavaScript, like all non-typed languages, is the tongue of the Devil.

After working with it for a few weeks, I wrote on my whiteboard that Perl is the Devil's flatus.

jabrwok

To what variant

The crazy variant. It's like unnaturally-colored hair, multitudinous piercings, and epidermal ink: aposematism, aka warning coloration.

Just nod, smile, and back away slowly (a hand on one's gun would likely be well advised).

WTP

Non-typed? But that hacker guy was typing the whole time!

Heh. Touché....As I, er...typed that it felt awkward. The phrase I think I was looking for was "not type-safe languages". Or something. I dunno. It's Friday and my brain is mush.

Ben

'untyped' or 'dynamically typed' is the usual formulation. JS is really 'weakly typed' or even 'duck typed'

David

This.

And this.

Via.

Ben

Hell, we've got our own Yeti:

https://twitter.com/BostonYeti2015/status/949033131822153728

Pogonip

It’s hip(po) to be square!

What is the difference between “fatness” and “fat bodies”? Are they mayhap afraid that if fat bodies is not specified, people will think of them as “fatheads”?

SteveGW

"Ne" has now entered the lexicon of university sacred words.

The first column of their list is labelled 'Normative (Subject)'. They meant 'Nominative.'

Perhaps before they presumed to reform the language, they could get a basic understanding of it.

Squires

"Planetary bodies" perhaps.

The obsession with labeled "bodies" seems to be a panintersectional phenomenon. As in, every stripe of this sort of ass can't seem to squeak a manifesto or denouncement out without at least one madlibbed "body" appearing.

The impression one gets is that they are all just meat that speaks, even from their own viewpoint.

champ

No, please, don’t thank me.

John Stoltenberg, author of "Refusing to Be a Man: Essays on Sex and Justice"

Boy, can he pick 'em...

https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=andrea+dworkin&qpvt=andrea+dworkin&FORM=IARRSM

Franklin

Non-typed? But that hacker guy was typing the whole time!

The Governor's next drink is on my tab.

champ

From Tim Newman's blog:SOUTH Africa’s parliament has voted in favour of a motion that will begin the process of amending the country’s Constitution to allow for the confiscation of white-owned land without compensation.

Yeah, because that worked out so well for Zimbabwe!

Runcie Balspune

From 30+ years as a coder - the imagined vs real programming is spot on, except 25 years ago we used a library of manuals rather than Stack Exchange.

Daniel Ream

From the above Twitter thread: https://twitter.com/Brownie_0817/status/949035318791024640

The fellow in that GIF is Bryan Danielson, who wrestled under the nome de guerre of "Daniel Bryan" (I have to assume the WWE marketing staff were at an extended martini lunch that day).

Mr. Danielson is mostly famous for selecting a trademark phrase ("Yes! Yes! Yes!") that it is not actually possible to trademark, since it's a single common word repeated a random number of times.

Mr. Danielson unsuccessfully attempted to argue that also pointing into the air with both fingers made the phrase uniquely trademarkable, despite it being impossible to depict this in textual form.

It makes one long for the creative genius of a Terry Bollea or Mark Callaway.

champ

Oh, my...

http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/relationships/sex/chinas-condoms-are-too-small-says-zimbabwes-health-minister/news-story/0361918b79eee5500070bf28001f24b8

champ

Now if [the physicists] say, "Well, look — we're doing real science and you guys aren't", then that's white male/sexist/bourgeois/whatever the answer is."

I don't know if this is a parody, but...

http://waterfordwhispersnews.com/2015/02/10/we-honestly-have-no-fucking-idea-what-were-doing-admits-leading-quantum-physicist/

Hal

I don't know if this is a parody, but...

Hmm? Other stories on that site being . . .

“I’m Fixing It” Zuckerberg Calmly Douses Facebook HQ In Petrol

and

Peasant Hunting At Davos Cancelled Due To Excessive Snow

and

Brexit Negotiations Progress Significantly As Boris Has Mouth Sewn Shut

and

Designer Reveals Jennifer Lawrence’s Dress Made Of 49.5% Feminism, 49.5% Patriarchy

. . . where This in turn drew opprobrium from mild mannered people who disagreed in ALL CAPS, is one of the comment in the latter . . .

Darleen

Cultural appropriation?

WTP

Hey Darleen...been waiting for you to pop up here again... I think there’s something that, at least to my knowledge, only you can answer. I’ve seen your comments in a few places lately in addition to here and the old PW site, and also other places where your comments had references Patterico. There’s a guy who comments at Patterico that I had also seen years ago at PW, and on rare occasion at Ace, called happyfeet. Do you happen to know if he comments elsewhere? I greatly enjoy his sardonic-ish take on things but suspect/fear Patterico will ban him at some point. Plus I’m getting real tired of having to wade through P and his fellow traveller leftist’s shiite to read hf’s takes. As I am banned at P (under a couple aliases now...long stories) I cannot ask him directly so hoped maybe you might be able to direct me?

Darleen

I used to enjoy happyfeet...but he became an annoying parody of himself and got decidedly mean on PW.

I don't have much occasion to read at Patterico's, but that seems to be the only place he posts fairly regularly.

David

Cultural appropriation?

Blimey. How does it…? I mean, is there a mechanism inside?

Hopp Singg

How do women get to the top? By being more like men, of course.

https://digest.bps.org.uk/2018/03/02/male-and-female-bosses-share-the-same-classically-masculine-personality-traits/#more-33385

The article then dutifully speculates that it's society's fault, but the real point has already been made.

Joan

This.

https://twitter.com/benshapiro/status/969740243380285440

Spiny Norman

Cultural appropriation?

From the replies:

That's why her hair is so big. It's full of secrets.

Hah!

Sam Duncan

“Sadly, "Peking" was supposed to be pronounced closer to "Beijing" in the first place.”

Doesn't matter. It changed. The extraneous “s” we put on to “Marseilles” in English used to be pronounced, but who does that today? Same with “Calais”, and of course we still do it with “Paris”. People who jokingly pronounce the “j” in “Majorca” are actually correct, according to standard English pronunciation until about half a century ago. The stress used to be on the middle syllable of “Monaco” (Stirling Moss still does this; old dogs and new tricks, etc.), but of course French puts equal stress on all syllables, so the modern pronunciation is no more “correct”.

I'm not against pronunciation changing; I'm against the legislation of language. And I'm especially against patronizingly bowing down to foreigners when they try to do it to us. As I started off, it's not “respectful”; it's deeply disrespectful of them, and disrespectful to ourselves. No English speaker ever pronounces “Tokyo” as two syllables: To-kyo. Due to the way our brains have been wired learning English as infants, we find “kyo” difficult to pronounce as one syllable. So in English, it's three: To-ke-o. That's just the way it is.

“The impression one gets is that they are all just meat that speaks, even from their own viewpoint.”

There's always been an undercurrent of that on the Left, though. The idea that society is a machine in which The Workers are just cogs, and all that. That's how each major strain of socialism in the 20th Century ended up with death camps. I've said it before: they keep banging on about The People, but they have real trouble with actual, living, breathing, thinking people with minds of their own.

This

I suppose they think if they say it often enough it'll come true. Please let that be it... please let that be it... please let that be it...

dicentra

It actually strikes me as strange that we have language-specific names for places that are different from the native names.

Germany instead of Deutchland? I know that the Romans gave us "Germania," but why stick with that? We can pronounce "doich land" just fine.

Same with "nor yay" and "nippon." The only translations that make sense are when your place name consists of dictionary words, such as "estados unidos."

WTP

I once worked with a guy who referred to anyone who wasn’t an American and didn’t speak english as “Mexican”. Haitians, Lebanese, Cubans, French Canadians we worked with, all Mexicans. At times I see see the charm and wisdom of his ways.

Hal

Consider Led Zeppelin.

Now imagine all of Led Zeppelin being played as reggae.

Oh, and by the way, this time the front man is Elvis Presley.

pst314

Same with "nor yay" and "nippon."

Is it possible that "nippon" is out of favor because during WWII American politicians spoke of "the Nipponese Empire"? and "nips" was a derogatory slang term?

Richard Cranium
It actually strikes me as strange that we have language-specific names for places that are different from the native names.

I think that happens when your people don't interact with those natives very much. It would only matter when you talk to one of them and get a funny look when you mention that place.

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