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October 09, 2018

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Pst314

What, again? Crackpots and charlatans have been peddling bullshit justified by Quantum Mechanics inspired jargon for many decades.

Surreptitious Evil

To paraphrase: "If reading about quantum has helped you understand anything, you haven't understood either quantum or anything else."

Surreptitious Evil

Bloody hell. And that can't be unseen. Pass the mind bleach, please.

Ten

Can you just imagine how glorious it is to get all made up and get on cam-er-ah?

According to physicists, the Narcissus Particle is thought to give all the other ghey particles their properties.

David

Mr Al-Kadhi seems to equate quantum mechanics with a lack of physical rules or definable properties, a lack that allegedly “shows us that reality is just a set of contradictions.” Which suggests that he hasn’t quite understood the subject.

David

Bloody hell. And that can’t be unseen.

It’s not a look that would work for everyone, no.

Ten

reality is just a set of contradictions

To be fair, boss, there is a lot of duality down in the realm of the very small.

It's there where things indeed get strange.

ComputerLabRat

Mr Al-Kadhi seems to equate quantum mechanics with a lack of physical rules or definable properties, a lack that allegedly “shows us that reality is just a set of contradictions.” Which suggests that he hasn’t quite understood the subject.

Quite!

And yet we're supposed to oooh and ahhh at those shiny new clothes the Emperor has.

Argh!!

Or perhaps - Harrumph!

Alice

as queer and Muslim,

Does he/they wear the wig and make-up at the local mosque?

Geoffrey

To paraphrase: "If reading about quantum has helped you understand anything, you haven't understood either quantum or anything else."

Quite. Studying quantum physics doesn't even help you to understand quantum physics... not really anyway. You can do the math, and get the right answers, but you're still utterly confused by the results.

When I took my first class on modern physics in college, General Relativity, I quickly came to an important tool for double-checking my work. When I finished an assignment, and I went over it all, and everything fit together and made perfect sense... I knew I had done something wrong. It wasn't until ONLY the math made sense that I felt confident I had the right answer.

The reason modern physics, both quantum mechanics and relativity, are so hard to understand is because they do not map to anything we experience in our medium sized, low speed world. Trying to use the concepts of modern physics to describe our lives is a sign of someone trying to appear smart, but revealing themselves to be foolish.

Although, admittedly, with a getup like that, I'd have assumed he was a clown in the first place, so it wasn't really a 'reveal' that he was foolish. Just a reveal that he didn't himself think that he was foolish.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

Which suggests that he hasn’t quite understood the subject.

...I identify as Muslim...

Yeah, go to a mosk in Mecca (or Luton) dressed like that and let us know how it works out for you. I think this is another subject he fails to grasp.

The unfortunate thing about the insane is that they rarely realize that they are.

Rafi

Um, so he/zie/they/zem is gay *and* non-binary? How does that work?

Rafi

"BBC Ideas"

Farnsworth M Muldoon

How does that work?

I believe it means this:

Trysexual

Noun: a person who is willing to and/or has tried anything sexual anyone can think of with any other person, animal, or inanimate object male or female.

R. Sherman

The BBC is horribly derivative. IIRC, Judith Butler, in one of her profound, easily understood think pieces, made the connection between Quantum Physics and the illusion of the binary sexual matrix. She even through in the phrase "Möbius Strip," for heaven's sake, and that was years ago. Really, these people need to keep up with the literature.

R. Sherman

"Threw in the phrase . . ."

Damn auto-correct.

Boatswain's Mate

I love the "Wigs" tag. Not often used, I noticed, perusing the archives.

David

Not often used, I noticed,

I do apologise for the shortage of wig-related content.

Zionist Overlord #73

@Rafi
Um, so he/zie/they/zem is gay *and* non-binary? How does that work?

Obviously, these are superimposed quantum states. The wave function just hasn't collapsed yet.

Obligatory XKCD link: https://xkcd.com/1240/

Andy

Over 20 years since the Sokal affair, and nothings changes. If anything, its got worse.

Governor Squid

A quick observation of its nether regions would be sufficient to collapse the probability wave and resolve once and for all whether its pussy is alive or dead.

So to speak.

GregMan

Well, there is a "charmed" quark. Maybe that has something to do with it.

Sam

Oh FFS. I know you link to these idiots to scorn and mock, but we really need to stop giving them the attention they crave. NOBODY GIVES A SHIT WHERE YOU PUT YOUR DIRTY BITS is the proper response.

Robert

On the subject of quantum physics, I recently saw someone wearing a t-shirt with the slogan "Wanted dead AND alive - Schrodinger's cat". Made me smile anyway.
Back to the original subject, I bet real quantum physicists are fed up to the back teeth with this sort of thing.

Hopp Singg

I'm pretty sure the physic involved were solved in less than an hour in an alternate universe, which totally exists as one of an infinite set of same.

As proof:

"technobabble"

That's a direct quote from an original Star Trek script.

pst314

That's a direct quote from an original Star Trek script.

I like "doubletalk generators", as in "If we cross-connect the doubletalk generators with the frammis couplers we can whatsis the gonkulators.".

Hopp Singg

Hey, this is pretty good!

http://www.technobabble.biz/

PL

We still have CP Snow's Two Cultures, but in place of the classically-educated Oxbridge graduates who are frankly ignorant about science, we now have multidisciplinary blue sky thinkers with the "I Fucking Love Science" pose - a lot of talk about particle accelerators from people who couldn't explain the physics of a 100g weight on a pulley, and an overemphasis on Schrondinger's cat type metaphors, because they did metaphors in college, and they certainly didn't do the kind of math you'd need to understand Schrondinger.

ComputerLabRat

A quick observation of its nether regions would be sufficient to collapse the probability wave and resolve once and for all whether its pussy is alive or dead.

I nearly spit out my tea all over the keyboard when I read that. Thanks - I needed that laugh in the face of all the ridiculousness.

Landlord! A drink for the Gov, please! On my tab!

David

Landlord! A drink for the Gov, please! On my tab!

One Smoker’s Cough coming up.

Governor Squid

You're too kind. No, really.

Spiny Norman

Smoker's Cough recipe

1 1/2 oz. Jagermeister
1 tsp. May --- WHAT?!?!

(o_O)

David

1 1/2 oz. Jagermeister
1 tsp. May --- WHAT?!?!

I believe the custom is down in one.

R. Sherman

I believe the custom is down in one.

Not to put a damper on the festivities, but 30+ plus years ago, my now wife was confronted with a bunch of Americans doing "Jagy" shots ostensibly to welcome her to this country. She remarked to me, "My grandmother drinks that so she can poop later."

Carry on.

ComputerLabRat

Smoker's Cough recipe

1 1/2 oz. Jagermeister
1 tsp. May --- WHAT?!?!

(o_O)

Ye gods, man - where do you find these things?

On the other hand, I bet that would go down a treat with one of those pickled eggs...

David

[ Unveils bowl of dried figs. ]

I’m taking the place upmarket.

David

Apparently, the sap can be used to soften callouses.

[ Slyly fishes stray nail clipping out of bowl. ]

ComputerLabRat

Ooooh dried figs!

[Reaches for one, then slowly withdraws hand after seeing what else was in the bowl...]

Daniel Ream

One Smoker’s Cough coming up.

You jest, but Coffee & Cigarettes is an actual cocktail.

David

You jest, but Coffee & Cigarettes is an actual cocktail.

[ Nudges jukebox. ]

Zionist Overlord #73

@David

[Unveils bowl of dried figs.]

Livia Augusta would not approve.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmdJBS_Cr8Y&feature=youtu.be&t=2573

David

Livia Augusta would not approve.

Heh. The clip is “unavailable” here in the UK, but I can guess the scene.

I still remember the one where Livia is tending to a mysteriously unwell Marcellus, who thanks her for being so good to him. To which she replies, quite honestly, “Goodness has nothing to do with it.”

WTP

Nudges jukebox

Pours cigarettes and coffee into jukebox coin slot

WTP

OK, either I have one caught in the spam filter (note to self: zip up more slowly), or I boofed the html.

Diver Down

'What quantum physics taught me about queer identity'

This is a BBC Ideas video from the The videos we just can't get enough of playlist.”

Strange. I had enough after about 37 seconds.

Hopp Singg

Pours cigarettes and coffee into jukebox coin slot

Pretty much how I fix my computer, too.

Hal

[ Unveils bowl of dried figs. ]

I’m taking the place upmarket.

And now there is no one who can complain that you don't give a fig . . .

Hal

Nudges jukebox

Pours cigarettes and coffee into jukebox coin slot

. . . . and just what result were you going to get with that???

Try this instead . . .

Pogonip

He doesn’t give a fig.

But he’ll be happy to sell it to you.

PiperPaul

"note to self: zip up more slowly"

Thanks for the visual.

John D

"Quantum physics is a... sect of physics"

Let me stop you right there...

David

gay *and* non-binary? How does that work?

I’m not sure that it does. But if you stockpile lots of designated victim categories and wear them like jewellery, and then mouth a strained and glib analogy, you can pretend to be interesting and attract the BBC.

Zionist Overlord #73

I still remember the one where Livia is tending to a mysteriously unwell Marcellus, who thanks her for being so good to him.

And Antonia, upon being told that Sejanus is bedding Livilla (wiki is such a help with these names), exclaims "But he's married, and has three children!"

Then came the reply, "What kind of world do you think we're living in??"

Makes one proud to have other people paying the bbc licence fee 50 years ago.

David

Then came the reply, “What kind of world do you think we’re living in??”

Livia is a great part and played very well by Siân Phillips. I was a wee seedling when I, Claudius aired and I remember being sent to bed as soon as the wonderfully sinister title music began. In the 90s, the Other Half and I spent a weekend binge-watching the entire series, and then again a few years ago. It stands up surprisingly well.

Patrick Brown

Also possibly the last time Brian Blessed was observed in the wild actually acting.

NielsR

"Quantum Physics has shown me that I can have my cake and eat it. Thanks science!"

Lancastrian Oik

Pondering over which names to attribute to these here victimhood particles.

Quirk? Strangeness? Charmless?

*Ignores embarrassing silence and sidles over to jukebox, studies playlist for what seems an eternity*

Dr Evil

Schrodinger's TWAT?

jabrwok

Quirk?

No. "Quirk" is taken.

Adam

It looks more like the influence of Ringling Brothers/Barnum & Bailey than quantum physics.

Daniel Ream

It stands up surprisingly well.

As an amateur classicist, I am dismayed that there will never be a Blu-Ray release (it was originally shot on videotape; the only available masters have a resolution that's at best slightly better than DVD).

Also possibly the last time Brian Blessed was observed in the wild actually acting.

"Now, Brian. Now you can be Emperor" is my favorite part of the series.

David

I am dismayed that there will never be a Blu-Ray release

Weren’t there rumblings of a possible remake, or am I imagining that?

Jonathan

Best reply on Twitter:

Farnsworth M Muldoon

Seeing as the thread has wandered, let us get back on track with the mentally unsound.

This one is nuts,a woman was forcibly removed from a plane because of her "emotional support" squirrel.

Yes, a squirrel, that is not a typo.

Pogonip

She’s squirrely.

jabrwok

Possibly the attendants had previously learned their lesson in re: squirrels.

David

Seeing as the thread has wandered,

And things always start out so tidy and linear. I’m too lax with you heathens, that’s my trouble.

Daniel Ream

Weren’t there rumblings of a possible remake, or am I imagining that?

Stuck in development hell, it looks like. Wikipedia has more.

I'm off to track down the radio adaptations.

David

I’m off to track down the radio adaptations.

Those might be interesting.

Chester Draws

Was the squirrel caged?

I wouldn't care if someone brought such an animal on board provided it was in hand luggage allowance and caged. I'd object strongly if the person next to me had a free one though.

Support from a squirrel seems fraught anyway. It'd always be going for my nuts.

Elephants Gerald

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrqBWT_HVTc&t=12s

Episode 1 of the radio drama versions of I CLAVDIVS with Jacobi as Augustus. The other 5 episodes can be found by searching:

I, Claudius by Robert Graves on youtube.

The BBC TV version doesn't seem to be on youtube at present

Pst314

Was the squirrel caged?

An electrical engineer could tell you. :-|

Richard Cranium

I was going to make a grounded joke, but I really can't match Governor Squid's comment.

David

Episode 1 of the radio drama versions of I CLAVDIVS with Jacobi as Augustus.

See, now I keep remembering bits of the TV series. As when, following a certain sly poisoning, the alarmed doctor exclaims, “He’s coughing up green slime.” To which, Livia – in her best attempt at an innocent tone – responds, “Maybe it’s a good thing.”

bobby b

He is introducing us to the concept of Schrodinger's Penis.

Until we examine him, he both has a penis and doesn't have a penis.

David

I’ll just leave this here, I think.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

I’ll just leave this here, I think.

The comments are worth the price of admission, but as usual it all comes down to this:

These bearded cis women are asking you to put traditional beauty ideals in the past

IOW, the entire world must bow down and accept the abnormality of a tiny few because of their delicate feels. Their hirsuitism is an abnormality, pure and simple, and one easily remedied either by medication, or, seeing as how the condition and their looks makes their getting pregnant unlikely anyway, laparoscopic oophorectomy.

Alas, the market for bearded ladies (and with this lot I use "ladies" loosely) in freak shows is not what it used to be, and if you want to grow a beard knock yourself out, but you can't make me think it makes you attractive, further, and I am spitballing here, perhaps getting the medical problem fixed might also solve their psychological problems - or vice versa.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

Speaking of looks, before and after of the Groucho eyebrow teacher from the other day. THis raises the question, does "feminism" cause psychological problems, or is "feminism" the result of collective psychological problems.

David

but you can’t make me think it makes you attractive,

They are, as so often, shouting at the rain. As if being indignant might somehow make it stop.

PiperPaul

"the market for bearded ladies"

Someone did mention Ringling Brothers/Barnum & Bailey upstream...

Farnsworth M Muldoon

Related, a) If you haven't cancelled Netflix, here is yet another reason (NSFW animated video show aimed at kids); b) Antifa, fear them... (NSFEyes).

David

If you haven’t cancelled Netflix, here is yet another reason

And yet, despite all the hoo-hah and theatrics, I just don’t believe them.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

Meanwhile, speaking as we were of squirrels, this clown has a first world problem with acorns. Again, the replies are worth the admission.

David

this clown has a first world problem with acorns.

Heh. It starts with an unconvincing “I would hate to have to complain,” and an even less convincing “peace and love,” then quickly moves on to “You’ve forced my hand… I have no choice,” etc.

Pst314

does "feminism" cause psychological problems, or is "feminism" the result of collective psychological problems.

Yes.

Pst314

“First world problem with acorns” was a hoax:

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/craigsilverman/competitive-barefoot-runner-acorns-eric-curtis-hoax

Farnsworth M Muldoon

Getting back to the body positivity thing, across the Rhine the gravitationally enhanced apparently now have coaches.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

“First world problem with acorns” was a hoax:

Poe's Law strikes again.

Governor Squid

(NSFW animated video show aimed at kids)

Aimed at kids?

In an early episode of the second season of Big Mouth, Netflix’s wonderful, critically acclaimed animated series, Missy attempts to comfort Andrew after his tiny mustache is cruelly waxed off by his parents, who are uncomfortable with the fact that their son is developing secondary sex characteristics.

“We need to love ourselves for who we are!” Missy reassures her friend. “I’m in an online community called ‘Girls Are Perfect and There’s Not a Thing Wrong With Any One of Them and Anyone Who Would Tell You Otherwise Is Actually Just Afraid of Your Power!’”

“Is there anything like that, but for pubescent boys?” Andrew asks.

“Oh ho ho yeah, it’s called, ‘society’ you privileged white, cis-hetero male!” Missy chortles -- resolutely, though not unkindly -- before leaving Andrew to grapple with whether or not Jews are actually considered white.

This doesn't strike me as the sort of plot and dialogue that normally goes with the adverts for sugary breakfast cereals and Bratz dolls. Unless by "kids" you meant "40-somethings with arrested development issues," in which case I might have to confess my guilt.

(I'm really more of a Bojack Horseman guy, to be honest.)

Daniel Ream

Aimed at kids?

It's not, any more than Married with Children, early seasons of The Simpsons, South Park, or Rick & Morty are. But apparently there's still a few PMRC throwbacks out there peddling this nonsense.

Sam

Big Mouth is not aimed at kids. It's squarely aimed at people looking for chuckles after consuming the serious content from The Daily Show.

Sort-Of-Mad Max

"Big Mouth is not aimed at kids. It's squarely aimed at people looking for chuckles after consuming the serious content from The Daily Show. "

Them there bourgeoisie are getting harder and harder to epater these days.

Zionist Overlord #73

It stands up surprisingly well.

Indeed, especially compared with modern attempts to revisit Rome. Like the series, "Rome". Managed to crawl over the finish line of the first episode, had no desire to proceed any further. "Gladiator" was also a disappointment, all those years ago.

However, I did very much enjoy Colleen McCullough's 'Masters of Rome' series. And also, on a very different note, the movie 'Gladiatress'.

David

Like the series, “Rome”.

Actually, I enjoyed Rome. Polly Walker’s Atia of the Julii was great fun to watch.

Squires

Antifa, fear them...

To paraphrase the protagonist of Thirteen Assassins, ‘an ornamental sword for ornamental people’.

Henry

Ah, I Claudius. I was similarly a bit young and craftily got hold of the TV to watch a rerun in 1982/83. "Is there anyone in Rome who hasn't slept with my daughter?" is a favourite line.

Um, getting back to post-modernist attacks on the Western intellectual project.. These folk are not intellectuals but politicians infiltrating academia, and wrecking it. Our Chinese competition must be laughing their heads off.. Janice Fiamengo's latest video is mostly about a Professor at NYU, this clip has her explaining how the concept of meaning itself has 'fascizoid, non-progressive edges'*

https://youtu.be/2sB5VBqz3i4?t=47

* up there with Newton's Principia being described as a rape-manual, surely?

Chester Draws

Yeah, given the cheating of Chinese academia, I'm not sure they'll be laughing very long.

Talking to people who employ both Western and Chinese graduates does not suggest the West is behind yet. So many Chinese get their degrees by outright cheating. Those that don't still struggle with independent thought.

No question, much of what the West produces as "social science" is rubbish. Can you name any good social science coming out of China?

Henry

So many Chinese get their degrees by outright cheating. Those that don't still struggle with independent thought

Well that's an interesting point. But I'd imagine the fact that the Chinese are concentrating on improvement in science & technology (and not producing so much work in the social sciences) is reason enough for them to be laughing, if they were to look at the antics of our academic institutions.

The kind of history etc being taught over there would probably make an educated Westerner weep - though the way things are going we won't have much to feel superior about.

WRT to your comments about cheating: I once worked on a UK exam board that was some making extra money by endorsing maths exams being taken in the far east - having our name on their certificates basically sounded good and helped kids in Singapore/Hong Kong get a job.

It already sounds dodgy, doesn't it? Occasionally they'd request certificates and we'd look at the marks some students had and reply "But, er, they've failed... we can't give them a certificate". And they'd send us new 'amended' marks - I think that was the phrase - a couple of days later with an email saying "Can we have the certificate now please..?"

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