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November 19, 2018

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Jen

The best bit was when she shouted 'help!' :-D

Stuart Lord

This doesn't surprise me. The incoherent statements, the lack of self awareness, they are all pretty standard. And the righteous public proclamations are just reminiscent of the Parable of the Pharisee and the Tax Collector, so the method or goal isn't new either, though the prayer is to the God of Wokeness.

The surprise is how incredibly lame it all is. Continuously, blindingly lame. The best answer is to not engage beyond a moving containment barricade moving them out of people's way.

David

The best bit was when she shouted ‘help!’ :-D

It was somewhat satisfying, though a little overdue. For those watching the longer video, Ms McClintock’s moment of glory occurs around 13:37.

David

The surprise is how incredibly lame it all is.

Yes, it’s lame, as LARPing often is. Whatever righteous psychodrama is occurring in their heads, they look like am-dram radicals, or some kind of delinquent cosplay. But being surrounded by them, and assaulted by them, and having them throw bottles of piss at you, is no more pleasant because of that.

Stuart Lord

But being surrounded by them, and assaulted by them, and having them throw bottles of piss at you, is no more pleasant because of that.

And yet, as we saw with the 'Battles of Berkley' series or the ongoing demonstrations/counter demonstrations, it is only effective because the public and police let it be. As soon as they actually meet any kind of resistance, it is weak arm flailing, wailing and invective.

Which is why I thought they should be moved somewhere else where they can't do themselves much harm, nor harass the public.

Frank
The surprise is how incredibly lame it all is.
Yes! The linked video on youtube, they really don't do the whole intimidating thing very well, even considering that they rely on the advantage of being in a mob. A generation of people that have never experienced the clarifying effects of a swift uppercut upon the cognitive process.
David

The foul-mouthed mooning woman(?), around 4:40, rather sums things up too.

Alice

Mugshots. https://www.portlandoregon.gov/police/news/read.cfm?id=189533

Stuart Lord

Perhaps lame doesn't fully convey what I mean - its like a cross between 'lame, 'limp'and 'pitiful'. I think these are the people Jordan Peterson had most firmly in mind when he said before you try and change the world, clean your room. Or take a shower.

The Sage

As a wise man once put it "SJWs always project".

David

As a wise man once put it “SJWs always project”.

And so, in the name of “social justice,” they threaten and bully, and spit, and shriek random abuse, and throw bottles of piss.

“You’re offensive,” they scream.

David

Note too, around 13:20, the Mao-lings’ disdain of brown-skinned people who disagree with them - as “tokens,” and “fascists,” etc. Because they’re all about diversity and inclusion.

David

Perhaps lame doesn’t fully convey what I mean - it’s like a cross between ‘lame’, ‘limp’ and ‘pitiful’.

They’re vain, pretentious wretches exulting in anonymous threats, mob leverage and unearned rage, and I doubt much good will ever come from their lives. I’d say pity is asking too much. Though I suppose one might ask why it is that far-left politics, and woke politics more generally, is so attractive to people who appear to have borderline personalities, or who choose to behave as if they do.

Theophrastus

I think such behaviour is catching. Last night, my wife and I met a cyclist without lights riding towards us on the pavement. My wife said firmly and politely, 'You do realise that riding your bicycle on the pavement is illegal and dangerous.' Result: an avalanche of vile abuse concluding with "...you brexit-loving fascist bastards!"

David

I think such behaviour is catching.

As Daniel pointed out a while ago, following this fit of Mao-ling hysteria, “We have entire institutions dedicated to producing hordes of young people with a kind of artificial cluster B personality disorder.”

David

I think these are the people Jordan Peterson had most firmly in mind when he said before you try and change the world, clean your room. Or take a shower.

They’re exactly the kind of people he warns against becoming. The kind who like wearing masks and scaring random strangers with threats of mob violence, or actual mob violence. (“That’s some expensive camera equipment you’ve got there,” intones another pious Mao-ling, eager to intimidate and thereby feel important.)

Farnsworth M Muldoon

...it is only effective because the public and police let it be.

It does rather suggest that if one were of a criminal bent, but simply made incoherent placards and wore Genuine Antifa™ Brand gear, one could build a gang of extraordinary magnitude, and go on a crime spree fully protected by the Portland rozzers.

"...you brexit-loving fascist bastards!"

Yeah, I can see how that follows. Perfectly logical.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

Related to all of the above...

I'm not saying the Maolings are one dimensional, but they are one dimensional.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

Just in case anyone was wondering where these idiots come from, I give you Radical Cram School #1 (there is a whole series of these), where young minds are turned to mush.

WTP

I think such behaviour is catching. Last night, my wife and I met a cyclist without lights riding towards us on the pavement. My wife said firmly and politely, 'You do realise that riding your bicycle on the pavement is illegal and dangerous.' Result: an avalanche of vile abuse concluding with "...you brexit-loving fascist bastards!"

Encountered very same situation in Winter Park, FL (well to do area) several years ago. Cyclist riding down public sidewalk in business/restaurant district damn near knocked over my motther-in-law. When challenged, that guy’s political statement was simply “Fuck you”.

WTP

Farnsworth, when I clicked that link, the lead-in advertisement was for Petco. That was some creepy shit. Not going to give it more hits than necessary but curious what other advertisers are supporting it.

Pogonip

Farnsworth, I bet the gang’s already forming!

klipper

an unhinged blue-and-purple-haired woman

Aposematism.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aposematism

Farnsworth M Muldoon

WTP - sorry, I didn't get any. Regardless, I think the ads are not companies supporting that rubbish, but are either randomly assigned by YouTube, or targeted to you based on browsing history.

Adblockers are your friend, which is why I didn't get any, and rarely get targeted ads. Out of curiosity, I turned off the adblocker and refreshing the page got an ad for six pack abs (I already have a seven pack), some sort of car vacuum cleaner, some sort of tea, and a get rich quick scheme, so I am thinking there are a bunch of companies that sign up with the ad provider for YouTube, and crap just gets spewed out.

Killer Marmot

The most powerful weapon against Antifa is video. Record them and show the world.

David

or targeted to you based on browsing history.

Hence all the epilators, wigs and plus-size négligées.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

The most powerful weapon against Antifa is video. Record them and show the world.

I have to disagree, all that does is show their like minded (and I use the word "minded" loosely) tovarischi that they will get away with that crap, and be lauded as heroes by the left in general. A more powerful weapon would be a water cannon flushing them down the street or, if they really want violence, a regular cannon. A Soylent Green scoop would provide some comedy relief too.

Captain Nemo

or targeted to you based on browsing history.

Hence all the epilators, wigs and plus-size négligées.

As a consequence of David linking to that rubber balloon thing on Amazon just over a week ago, I'm now getting adverts for it everywhere. It's quite disconcerting. Yes, I know; "No refunds, etc.".

David

As a consequence of David linking to that rubber balloon thing on Amazon just over a week ago, I’m now getting adverts for it everywhere. It’s quite disconcerting.

After 11 years of compiling Friday’s ephemera, you should see my Google and YouTube recommendations. I must be on some kind of watch-list by now.

Killer Marmot
all that does is show their like minded (and I use the word "minded" loosely) tovarischi that they will get away with that crap, and be lauded as heroes by the left in general.

The goal isn't to convince the far(ish) left of the lunacy of the Antifa. They are likely a lost cause anyway. No, the real audience is at the middle of the political spectrum, those people who need to be convinced that the Antifa is not some brave movement fighting the forces evil, but violent hate-filled thugs who take satisfaction in assaulting anyone who is even mildly conservative or libertarian.

R. Sherman

Mugshots.

It will be interesting to see whether any of the few arrested wind up being actually punished. Perhaps I'm wrong, but it seems the Leftists in charge of Portland are using the Antifa goons as means of enforcing their "Super-woke" agenda while at the same time providing the civil authorities with perfect deniability. It's one thing to appear on the scene after the thug has spent several hours assaulting random people. It's another to prevent such behavior in the first place.

Rafi

You see, by reporting on Antifa’s behaviour, Mr Ngo is a “fascist,” a “rape apologist,” a “Nazi,” and a “white supremacist.” Albeit one with Vietnamese parents.

Note too the Mao-lings’ disdain of brown-skinned people who disagree with them - as “tokens,” and “fascists,” etc.

It's a diverse and inclusive white supremacy. Anyone can join.

Captain Nemo

After 11 years of compiling Friday’s ephemera, you should see my Google and YouTube recommendations. I must be on some kind of watch-list by now.

Heh.

David

It’s a diverse and inclusive white supremacy. Anyone can join.

Heh. Apparently so.

The Sage

Somewhat related -- I saw this on the side of a bus today
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You can tell from the #Resistance chic what it's all going to be about.

Chariklia Baxevanos

I give you Radical Cram School #1 (there is a whole series of these), where young minds are turned to mush.

Where the children of Asian and Hispanic immigrants are taught the energy, clarity, and solidarity that's available to them if they learn how to hate the historical white majority wholeheartedly and unashamedly. Their minds are being forged, not into mush, but into the steel of righteous hatred. The Sarah Jeong generation of Asians no longer sees it in their interest or in their dignity to be the well-behaved model minority and to sublimate their envy and resentment into academic striving.

Governor Squid

Why on Earth would somebody make and distribute a terrible production of Robin Hood, when there have been so very many awful versions produced already?

Daniel Ream

Yes, it’s lame, as LARPing often is.

There's LARPing and then there's LARPing. Some twenty years ago on a visit to California I had the privilege of attending the monthly drill of a 1st century Roman legion re-enactment group. Organized resistance to antifa's antics seems to have melted away since Charlottesville, and antifa has occasionally tried to smuggle shields and long metal poles onto the field of anticipated field of battle - but I've often thought that the first side to figure out close order shield and baton drill is going to roll up their opponents like a cheap carpet. This stuff right here is two thousand year old Roman legion formation fighting.

The Sage

close order shield and baton drill

That would be the Riot Squad, when they get told to break some heads rather than stand down and let the antifa play.

David

It will be interesting to see whether any of the few arrested wind up being actually punished.

Being actively encouraged to believe that you can transgress with impunity – as seen, for instance, here - could bring out the worst in the best of us. Needless to say, The Moron Children Of Marcuse™ are not the best of us. And so, they get to feign piety and heroic daring, while exulting in mob force and indulging every nasty little urge that’s ever crossed their nasty little minds. For a certain kind of person, an intoxicating mix.

[ Added: ]

In terms of deterrence, enforcing the customary consequences for repeated and organised violent delinquency would be a big help. But as we’ve seen many times, much of the left is currently determined to inhibit those normal consequences as somehow unfair. The results of this unilateral ‘free hits’ approach, whether in terms of sociopathic street theatre or routine classroom thuggery, have been predictably disastrous.

This fact alone will not stop them.

Daniel Ream

when they get told to break some heads rather than stand down and let the antifa play

Well, yes. And I suspect the major reason the various anti-antifa groups haven't yet demonstrated the superiority of discipline and a cause worth fighting for is that they know they'd be fighting on two fronts.

Sam

The more I see these antifa videos the more the solution becomes clear:

Let it be known - on the sly of course - that the police will be *absent* for hours. The result would be a lot of property destroyed and defaced, lots of innocent bystanders hurt and robbed, and lots of both injuries and perhaps deaths from all factions. Though I do feel bad for the innocents hurt by this strategy, in the long run it's the only way to make the normies mad enough about this inane clown pussies to actually do something about it.

As it is the police offer just enough of a presence to keep the proceedings ludicrous. EG the woman saying "it's totally legal to spray someone with silly string, officer!". This is stupid and just delaying the inevitable. Removing the police allows a proper counter response, with assault and murder on the table. It discourages all but the most dedicated antifa to show up, effectively leaving the field to those who truly wish to do battle.

Enough killing, maiming, and burning downtown businesses and the Democrat politicians who differ from the black clad children only in degree will be forced to disavow these radical elements. Of course those killing antifa will also be linked to Trump et al but the net effect is better than the status quo. You can see it on the faces of the young men on "our" side: they are ready and willing to fight - and fight to the death. Let them.

Pogonip

Probably everyone who has someplace to go and is impeded by these morons tying up traffic is ready to give them a spanking.

pst314

Speaking of morons blocking streets and committing mayhem:
In 2012 I heard science fiction author Cory Doctorow say proudly that he helped to develop a smart phone app to assist "protesters" to evade police attempts at kettling. (I had to look up "kettling" as I'd never heard that word before.)

My question: Were the British police using kettling to interfere with the legitimate right to peacefully protest?
I expect that you will tell me they only used it to control violent mobs, but I'd appreciate a reality check from people closer to the events.
(Cory Doctorow is proud that his parents were Trotskyites, which made it easy to believe that the protests he wanted to assist were violent. And there were more than a few such violent protests--riots--at the time of his comments.)

QuintAmpersandJessel

Her shrill shrieks were too painful for me to keep watching, but I loved how her own side had to keep dealing with her dumb ass.

Pogonip

And then it looked so pleased with itself in its mug shot.

juliaeryn

2 things:
1. It took me a good few moments to realise they were chanting 'our streets!' not 'Auschwitz!'
2. Balaklava-mouthhole idiot dressed up in full resistance fighter garb shrieking 'You have no friends! Nobody likes you! is crazy funny

Forbes

My question: Were the British police using kettling to interfere with the legitimate right to peacefully protest?

No doubt it interfered, but I understand the police explained it as a crowd control tactic, to halt elements of the procession, to prevent the crowd from proceeding away from the permitted route, etc. Though it appeared to be used to corral known violent agitators who would use the crowd as cover for their antics. The police used plain clothes personnel and CCTV to track said miscreants.

A form of passive-aggressive crowd control to reduce chances for direct confrontation with agitators, combined with plausible deniability regarding interfering with peaceful protest.

N.B. I've no direct personal experience in this regard, from what I've picked up.

David

Were the British police using kettling to interfere with the legitimate right to peacefully protest?

The first time I heard the term, and saw it used, was as a belated response to organised mob thuggery. Specifically, when protests deviated from agreed routes with the intention of escaping police supervision in order to indulge more freely in traffic obstruction, arson, mass vandalism and harassment. Protests that stuck to agreed routes could generally be managed without such tactics.

David

Balaklava-mouthhole idiot dressed up in full resistance fighter garb shrieking ‘You have no friends! Nobody likes you!’ is crazy funny

It’s Mean Girls writ large.

TomJ

There were a few comments above I was tempted to respond to with this link, but I think I'll just let it stand alone:

https://articles.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2018/07/portland_protest_leader_micah.amp

David

Regarding Hannah “Fisty” McClintock, a footnote of note.

Myrddin Seren
It does rather suggest that if one were of a criminal bent, but simply made incoherent placards and wore Genuine Antifa™ Brand gear, one could build a gang of extraordinary magnitude, and go on a crime spree fully protected by the Portland rozzers.

Bane

Mags

The first time I heard the term, and saw it used, was as a belated response to organised mob thuggery.

I *knew* Laurie Penny was going to be in there somewhere. :-D

Zionist Overlord #73

@Sam

Let it be known - on the sly of course - that the police will be *absent* for hours.

This was the Weimar policy, I believe. Letting Communists and Fascists fight each other in the street did not turn out so well, in the end.

David

I *knew* Laurie Penny was going to be in there somewhere. :-D

Yes, Laurie and her peers do rather exemplify the childish moral dysfunction that informs so much else we’ve covered here. For instance, the belief, stated baldly, that if police numbers are insufficient to physically prevent you from indulging in gratuitous criminal behaviour, then that behaviour somehow isn’t criminal and shouldn’t be punished, or even complained about.

And note Laurie’s signature hyperbole and displacement of responsibility, and the claim that mass traffic obstruction – paralysing thousands of commuters, along with emergency services and people trying to get home to their kids – is a glorious, righteous thing – a “global uprising” - and not just an act of supreme selfishness by self-dramatising narcissists.

Apparently, people who are sufficiently leftwing should be able to impose themselves on others, whenever and however they choose, regardless of the cost to the people being imposed upon, and without any risk of personal consequences. The rest of us should just stand there meekly and take it, presumably. As so often, there’s an air of rationalised sociopathy.

Mags

and not just an act of supreme selfishness by self-dramatising narcissists.

THAT.

Jonathan

The Establishment, both in Europe and North America, seems quite happy to use Antifa as a cudgel against normal, decent westerners exercising their right to protest peacefully, or 'Nazis' as they would have it.

The only way to dampen their enthusiasm is if every time Antifa turn up, a few dozen of them end up being hospitalised but the authorities would never allow it.

PiperPaul

"It’s Mean Girls writ large."

Or maybe 5-year-olds.

You have no friends! Nobody likes you!

Seriously?

David

Or maybe 5-year-olds.

Well, they are playing dress-up.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

Titania McGrath, heir apparent to Godfrey Elfwich (PBUH), sums it up neatly.

Ten

The most powerful weapon against Antifa is video. Record them and show the world.

I'm not so sure. As noted above, given that they're manifestations of narcissistic and anti-social disorder, don't give them the supply, the NPD's number one drug of choice. They insist on your involvement in their faux dramas; it's why they stage them at all. You're the target and you're the supply.

Further, the right lost the real game long ago by concentrating not on structuralism and originalism, but on the left. The right's instinctive reaction to leftwing lunacy is no such support, and it's not even sufficient to shun the left back to the equivalent of the political lunatic asylum.

I say throw the misfits from ordered society. Concentrate on taking back the institutions. Reform the social order and restore culture instead of accepting its popular, televised wreckage.

That's not to say it shouldn't be exposed, but to what end? The left took nothing it wasn't given - it's a fringe movement that somehow gained a coequal place in things, the things it will forever ruin and wreck. Why indulge it?

Ten

Apparently, people who are sufficiently leftwing should be able to impose themselves on others, whenever and however they choose, regardless of the cost to the people being imposed upon, and without any risk of personal consequences. The rest of us should just stand there meekly and take it, presumably. As so often, there’s an air of rationalised sociopathy.

Exactly. Time to stop that. One can analyze the entire leftist order, such as it is. It's built on the pillars of dysfunction:

Redistribution - intolerant force. Their narcissistic "principles and values", forever undefined, are for you to support and fund
Projection - you're morally wrong to reject this choice put upon you
Pathological dishonesty - left is right, up is down, and any social element or truth is immediately subject to revision
Gaslighting - you're automatically defective for questioning the bullshit dujour, fascist. Sit down and take it for it is good
Appearances-centrism - everything is cloaked in inverted aspects and again, your appearance is naturally wrong and theirs is inherently right

Yeah, they're nuts, and I do not limit that to the radical physical players because it applies to the entire left-side ideology. So why play?

WTP

That's not to say it shouldn't be exposed, but to what end? The left took nothing it wasn't given - it's a fringe movement that somehow gained a coequal place in things, the things it will forever ruin and wreck. Why indulge it?

This. When the exposing becomes promotion. Look at that video. Who appears to be the strong horse and who is cowering in fear of a purple haired woman? Not everyone who sees this understands the principles. I would argue only a minority. Which side do you think the typical person would be afraid of? It is extremely unpopular to say so but it is a truth none the less that fear is a powerful motivator. Especially in games of power and control.

David

THAT.

It’s a conceit that, in almost any other context, would be recognised as reprehensible and pathologically self-involved. But hey, that’s who they are. And we are just props and furniture in their self-flattering psychodrama.

Ten

Not everyone who sees this understands the principles. I would argue only a minority. Which side do you think the typical person would be afraid of?

Another favorite online destination of mine is Wrath of Gnon. (GNON = God of Nature Or Nature.) Its upshot is that postmodernism has lost hundreds of years of philosophy, reason, culture, and society, and with them the arts, architecture, civilization, urbanism, the home, and the family.

https://twitter.com/wrathofgnon

I probably became aware of WoGnon here...

Modern conservatism's principle fault hinges in it forgetting where it came from and at what cost.

pst314

The most powerful weapon against Antifa is video. Record them and show the world.

Show their family, neighbors, employers, etc?

pst314

The first time I heard the term, and saw it used, was as a belated response to organised mob thuggery.

Thanks, David. That fits with what I expected, but it's always good to check.

Henry

"My wife said firmly and politely, 'You do realise that riding your bicycle on the pavement is illegal and dangerous.' Result: an avalanche of vile abuse"

A lot of cyclists where I live have started cycling anywhere they like, on pavements, through red lights - trying to get to and from work at a record time. If a pedestrian says "Please could you not crash into me" these characters become more than mildly aggrieved - to the point of behaving in a not dissimilar way to our purple-haired gangsta-ette (I like the little swagger she does).

Try and reason with cycling-activists about this on the internet (where they can't smack you) and right away they start explaining how motorists kill far more cyclists than cyclists kill pedestrians - which... well it's exactly the style of argument I'd expect from someone who calls you a "Brexit-loving fascist bastard" when you remonstrate with them about their dangerous decision-making.

Cyclists (for some reason using the pavement) try to mow parents and kids down on the school run every day. Sometimes they're other parents who've got on their bike and done a transformation much like Dr Jekyll's. Sometimes I get stroppy with them but one has to calculate fairly carefully where the situation is heading :) Finally, in Oxford, I daily watch PCSOs and council workers regularly soak up invective from cyclists surprised to find themselves fined a pathetic sum for, well, breaking the law, right?

I'm not generalising, of course *cough* but what is going on with cyclists?

David

I’m not generalising, of course *cough* but what is going on with cyclists?

I suspect that, in some cases, it’s much the same self-flattery – and the same consequent prickliness. I’m sure I’ve previously mentioned trips into Derbyshire, on winding country roads, where groups of these higher beings insist on cycling two, three, even four-abreast, making overtaking either dangerous or impossible, clearly enjoying this fact, and therefore doing it for as long as it can be done, often several minutes, while ignoring the massive tailback of other road users, and presumably feeling superior.

Some, of course, are very considerate and will wave drivers by when a chance to overtake appears. But not, I think, a majority.

WTP

Submitted for your consideration...Bill Burr’s guide to driving etiquette...via Ace...

https://youtu.be/ex7zPyOWWmE

Farnsworth M Muldoon

Meanwhile in Canada, speaking of obnoxious bicyclists (BIRM)...

Stevie of Sweden

A special thanks to Judith Butler, Andrea Dworkin, Simone de Beauvoir, Valerie Solanas, Adrienne Rich and all the other great feminist "thinkers" for creating these cretins.

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