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February 19, 2019

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Paula

It does, I think, take a particular chutzpah to publicly claim to be oppressed - by other people’s earrings - while spending more than the median household income at a glorified holiday resort.

Missed that one. :-)

David

Missed that one. :-)

She’s so oppressed she’s spending $60,000 a year on a degree in “media studies with a concentration in critical theory.” As downtrodden people do.

And hey, Ms Martinez and Ms Aguilera had to email the entire campus, repeatedly, with their views on hooped earrings and who should be allowed to wear them. That’s “emotional labour,” you know.

Clam

I'm still catching up on all the 'reheated' stuff.

“It’s important that I situate myself within my positionality.”

Gold.

David

I’m still catching up on all the ‘reheated’ stuff.

Slacker. You do realise there’s a test at the end of the month…?

Farnsworth M Muldoon

Meanwhile, not everything is reheated, in today's episode of Mining For Outrage, join us for "Don't Sis Me Bro !"

There’s a profound interest in sis. Truth is, it may seem like a novel term [used for hundreds of years, but I digress] but it actually has roots deeply embedded in the Black church and queer communities. And despite its popularity due to digital appropriation, many believe the word is for and by African Americans exclusively...“You’re not my sister, don’t sis me if you’re not a Black woman or a person impacted by misogynoir,” Muhammad said on air.

I see, a word that actually can be traced back to Latin has "roots" in black church and "queer" communities, and only "African Americans" can use it. My sister will be relieved because she never liked being called that, but I expect there to be some rending of garments among the feminist community who use the term. It is also not clear if British African Americans, African African Americans, or Mohammedans of any pigmentation who use the term still get to use the word.

But wait ! That's not all, for an extra added bonus to solve this mystery...

According to Johnson, the best way to find out if you should or shouldn’t be using sis—and who it can be directed towards—is a matter of doing your research. “I think you should just always talk about what you know. I think the reason why you see it [spreading] is because Black internet culture is really the internet culture, just like Black culture is American culture,” he says.

What a profoundly idiotic and ignorant comment, I guess by using the internet we here are appropriating "black culture" ? I cannot imagine how cushy and boring one's life must be to have to resort to dreaming up garbage like this for a brief burst of titillation over the Outrageous Outrage™.

Pogonip

Here, everyone, have some bean pie. A nice change from hump fat.

David

I’m sorry, madam. You’re not allowed to eat your own food on the premises.

But we do have a special today.

Nommy-nommy-nom.

Unnonplussed

http://www.unz.com/isteve/black-math-prof-discovers-he-made-bad-career-choice-campaigns-to-get-more-blacks-to-make-same-bad-choice/

Hiring committees that reflect the mostly white and Asian makeup of most math departments say they are compelled to “choose the ‘best,’” said Ryan Hynd, a black mathematician at the University of Pennsylvania, “even though there’s no guideline about what ‘best’ is.”

I mean, math is just a socially constructed exercise of power and interpersonal dominance with no objective underlying reality. For example, the one time I was at a math conference, some math professor wrote some gibberish on the whiteboard. I raised my hand and said, “Yeah, well, you know, that’s just, like, your opinion, man,” totally pwning him.

jabrwok

Don't Sis Me Bro!

Every time I read this sort of nonsense, I get the feeling that we're edging (or charging) closer and closer to Fran Porretto's short story, The Two Doors.

Pogonip

Hump-ble pie, anyone?

Sam

David - if you're still in the mood to update the blogroll, please consider Matt Christiansen's youtube channel.

Measured, entertaining, and lots of content. So, unlike my Drunken Uncle recommendation, this one won't give you the vapors. =)

Sam

Don't Sis Me Bro!

Bro? Fucking BRO?? Did you just cis-sis me, bigot?!?

David

if you’re still in the mood to update the blogroll,

Heh. Mr Christiansen’s channel is one of my YouTube subscriptions. Added to blogroll.

WTP

Posted by: Unnonplussed

Dude, you’re baiting me.

Uma Thurmond's Feet

I'll just drop this here" Sargon looks at Wisecrack's video about how Starship Troopers is fascist (yeah, I know) and dismantles it.

tl;dr; Idiot confuses fascism with militarism.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95OQlvEQNRM

pst314

Dude, you’re baiting me.

He's a master.

pst314

Idiot confuses fascism with militarism.

I wouldn't even call the novel militaristic, just guilty of honoring the military.

jabrwok

Dude, you’re baiting me.

He's a master.

ISWYDT.

Rob

On the Starship Troopers video, I think that video posted misses some of the hints and possible deeper stuff going on.

In any case, the best 'theory' for that film is that its an in-universe To Hell and Back. Johnny Rico plays himself in a fictionalised story of his life.

WTP

He's a master.

So long as he washed his hands before digging into the pickled "eggs".

Hey, wait a minute...did you just assume xis gender? Or perhaps just xis anatomy?

Bill Peschel

"I wouldn't even call the novel militaristic, just guilty of honoring the military."

I mean in the movie. Just because people act like they're in the military doesn't mean they're fascist. They're just very, very efficient.

Hal

Idiot confuses fascism with militarism.

I wouldn't even call the novel militaristic, just guilty of honoring the military.

Ehn, from a skim through the video, I think Sargon's discussion might be more a review of Verhoeven's Really Badly Done Bug Show rather than actually being a discussion of Starship Troopers.

Myself, I think that once someone finally makes a movie or miniseries of Starship Troopers, that would be quite interesting.

Darleen

House of Windsor didn't vet Meghan half as much as it should have.

pst314

Ehn, from a skim through the video, I think Sargon's discussion might be more a review of Verhoeven's Really Badly Done Bug Show...

My apologies, I forgot about the movie.

pst314

In any case, the best 'theory' for that film is that its an in-universe To Hell and Back.

The author of the novel, Heinlein, said that he wrote the novel to honor the infantry, aren't glamorous like aviators but deserve our respect and gratitude.

Steve E

...male, pale, and stale...

Darleen, I didn't know "stale" was a synonym for competent and qualified. It must be a UK thing. Perhaps David could clarify.

Antipholus Papps

I thought Verhoeven’s Starship Troopers was clearly a gleefully savage satire of Fascism and a timely warning about the USA’s trajectory, from a Dutch director who grew up under the Nazi occupation of Holland.

To call the movie an apology for Fascism is like calling Robocop a celebration of privatisation!

Pogonip

I’ve been involved with DOD for 59 years. Born in an Army hospital. “Military” does not necessarily mean “ efficient.” They do try hard, though, and sometimes they really are efficient.

Pogonip

I was a little disgruntled when I tried to pull my horoscope free and found the site (HQ’d in Europe, I believe) didn’t think Fort Knox, KY existed!

I guess I’ll have to stick with the newspaper.

Steve E

I tried to pull my horoscope free

Pogonip, do they still make those little horoscope books that you could by at the drugstore counter? Some of them were little books and some were scrolls. I used to put them in Christmas Stockings but I haven't found them for years.

Forbes

“It’s important that I situate myself within my positionality.”

Where does an ass position himself? Other than by sitting?

Mostly likely on a porcelain throne doing important work bound up in emotional labor...

Pogonip

Steve, I can’t remember the last time I saw those cute little books and scrolls!

fnord

Verhoeven could have done his attack on fascism without a**-raping Heinlein's book. What he did is unforgivable.

Hal

Verhoeven could have done his attack on fascism without a**-raping Heinlein's book. What he did is unforgivable.


Ah yes.

Dune, by Frank Herbert.

vs

David Lynch's Flying Worms In SPAAAAAAAAAAAACE!!!!!!!!!! by Dino De Laurentiis.

ACTOldFart

Coincidentally, the Starship Troopers movie is on TV here in Australia this very night. And the Australian multicultural channel has been doing a season of "so bad they are facinating" movies over the last few weeks. Tonight it's Masters of the Universe, and a couple of weeks ago it was Battlefield Earth.

Why are science fiction movies over represented in the population of the monumentally bad? Indeed are there any truly great science fiction movies? Only the Ridley Scott Harrison Ford Blade Runner comes to mind, but I may be narrow in my view.

Darleen

Verhoeven's script was written before he bought the rights to use the title "Starship Troopers". He absolutely detested Heinlein so delighted in his abortion of a movie.

Darleen

Why are science fiction movies over represented in the population of the monumentally bad?

I think partly because anything approaching special effects was so primitive. It's hard to suspend disbelief when you spot the zipper running down the monster's back.

There are some effective and good sci-fi films - from serious to comedy

My faves include (short list):
Invasion of the Body Snatchers
Forbidden Planet
20 Thousand Leagues Under the Sea
Planet of the Apes (original)
Empire Strikes Back
ET
Andromeda Strain (original)
War of the Worlds (1953)
Arrival
Back to the Future

Hal

Why are science fiction movies over represented in the population of the monumentally bad?

They aren't---Or at least my impression is more a matter of visibility. Consider, by contrast, just how many movies have been cranked out over the decades, and not everything is Lawrence Of Arabia . . . .

Indeed are there any truly great science fiction movies?

Going for what I've noted as an SF noir trilogy, Alien, Outland, and yes, Blade Runner.

And certainly adding in Aliens and Alien 3

---Oh, yes, I know of immense moaning and wringing of hands over the latter, simply because it's not its predecessors. Well, of course it's not.
Alien is Ten Little Indians in a haunted house.
Aliens is a classic war movie.
Alien 3 is about death, and being an adult---as in You are going to die . . . . now are you going to die standing up, or will you die on your knees?

And continuing . . . The Terminator. I'll throw in Star Wars just from the impact of reminding that it's ok to have have a little dirt and dust in front of the camera . . . .

JML

Indeed are there any truly great science fiction movies? Only the Ridley Scott Harrison Ford Blade Runner comes to mind, but I may be narrow in my view.

If you are talking "awesome", there is also 2001: A Space Odyssey and Alien. For merely "really good" you could add Aliens, Metropolis, Terminator, Total Recall, Ex Machina and many others. I'd include Solaris but David would cut off my drinks as he did last time.

Hal

. . . I'd include Solaris . . .

. . . . . . . Um . . . Sol . . . Solaris . . . Ah, Yes!, Solaris!!!

Here you are.

As David keep stating when he shows a movie, Yes, I know, I'm spoiling you, It’s a luminescent work. Powerful and magnetic.

If nothing else, the next time that David does a performance art piece, you now have something to reply with . . . !

Hal

Oh.

---Was just staring at the shelves.

Rollerball.

Hal

Another thought, and hopefully back to configuring someone's Python obscurity.

Echoing on 2001and 20,000 Leagues Under The Sea and all of the original Apes movies.

All of the Mad Maxes.

Going over to TV, The Prisoner.

Be seeing you.

David

I’d include Solaris but David would cut off my drinks as he did last time.

[ From the kitchen, muttered epithets can be heard. ]

David

Here you are.

As I said a while ago,

To say that Solaris is a tedious and unrewarding film would be a catastrophic understatement. It actively repels engagement and mercilessly crushes any expectation of pleasure or suspense. As if any concession to pacing, drama and engaging characters would somehow be unsophisticated.

You’d think that a film about the discovery of a planet with a sentient, shape-shifting ocean that can divine human anxieties and desires, but which accidentally causes a kind of existential madness, wouldn’t be entirely without promise. But dear God, within minutes Tarkovsky manages to obliterate any interest in the premise, and indeed in life itself.

The more recent Soderbergh version is better, in that things actually happen, and is in some respects closer to the novel, but it’s still not a film I’d care to watch again.

[ Heads back to kitchen. Door slams. ]

MC

Suggested edit: The more recent Soderbergh version is better, in that things actually happen, and is in some respects closer to the novel and it has Natascha McElhone sans kit, so woo-hoo!

I like the music too...

David

I like the music too...

Yes, the score, by Cliff Martinez, is agreeable, in a minimalist sort of way. I like the scene – I think it’s Kelvin’s first sleep on the station - where we see Solaris doing something as Kelvin dreams - lots of luminous connections being made, not unlike neurons.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

Meanwhile...

Facial recognition software is better at determining the actual sex of people than SJWs, nevertheless, it is, of course, transphobic.

In entertainment news, the outrage du jour, we find that The Duke was not Woke™. To compound this nitwit's agony, The Duke also took a shot at socialism.

A 1971 interview, we are getting into some serious outrage mining.

David

In entertainment news, the outrage du jour, we find that The Duke was not Woke™.

Or, “Man born in 1907, and who died 40 years ago, held views no longer considered fashionable or polite.”

Fansworth M Muldoon

The left believes in science, though they seem to be struggling with biology.

David

though they seem to be struggling with biology.

The word woman is doing some heavy lifting there.

Also biologically, and female, and her.

David

though they seem to be struggling with biology.

It occurs to me that if trans activists were to settle for the categories of trans man and trans woman - rather than the more contentious demand that we ignore biology, logic and the evidence of our own eyes - their presumed goal, of accommodating people with gender dysphoria, might more easily be achieved.

Sam

David Lynch's Flying Worms In SPAAAAAAAAAAAACE!!!!!!!!!! by Dino De Laurentiis.

First of all, had I never seen Dune that description would have sold me, despite your mocking intention.

Second of all, Dune is great.

Darleen

cis women are so threatened by trans women

I'm not "threatened" by flat-earthers or Holocaust deniers or anti-vaxxers. My pushback against anti-science nonsense and the cult bullying that accompanies it is called "integrity".

WTP

OT but here you go...

https://museumofnonvisibleart.com

Now don’t say I never gave you anything.

David

I’m not “threatened” by flat-earthers or Holocaust deniers or anti-vaxxers.

Ah, but any demurral, whatever its particulars, must be framed as driven by fear. Activists do like to flatter themselves.

As I’ve said before, I’m generally willing to go with the categories of ‘trans man’ and ‘trans woman’ as things that exist in the world. Contrary to rumour, I’m an easy-going guy and don’t wish to be gratuitously mean to people with gender dysphoria.

But there’s something disagreeably surreal about being confronted with what is often an obvious mismatch, a category error, and being expected, not just to be civil, but to declare – and pretend to oneself – that the mismatch isn’t there. I realise that gender dysphoria entails quite a bit of psychological dissonance. But foisting that dissonance on others – to the extent that even politely acknowledging any distinction between the categories of ‘woman’ and ‘trans woman’ is seized on as proof of wickedness - will inevitably result in resistance.

Demanding that people lie, and lie to themselves – demanding that they see five lights, as it were - isn’t a great way to make friends.

Trevor

...their presumed goal, of accommodating people with gender dysphoria ...

'Presumed'. There's your mistake. There is no goal whose accomplishment would ever satisfy these people. They are craven attention-whores and piss-takers.

Steve E

...what is often an obvious mismatch...

You have to wonder what's going on in "xir's?" head--aside from the gender dysphoria. "I've found a home?" "I'll dominate these lesser beings?" "Wow, this is a really competitive game?"

It would be like adults playing a competitive game against small children. How can that possibly be satisfying for anyone?

David

It would be like adults playing a competitive game against small children.

In the case of the transgender powerlifter mentioned recently, I think it was more akin to being a forgettable also-ran in the men’s competition then becoming state champion in the women’s.

Steve E

It seems to me we already have the Special Olympics and said olympics have a myriad of different competitive categories. There shouldn't be a problem adding a couple more.

Bill Peschel

"“Military” does not necessarily mean “ efficient.” They do try hard, though, and sometimes they really are efficient."

Compared to what I've seen in the real world, I mean.

Certainly, when it comes to the military's primary job of making things go boom with the consequent results, they're really, really good at it.*

* In the U.S. In other countries, YMMV.

Pogonip

Well, not necessarily. The U. S. hasn’t won a war since 1945–which, I guess, explains our politicians’s eagerness to send our troops everywhere. They figure we need more practice. 🙄

Pogonip

Here’s one for David’s Nutty-Colleges file:

http://thefederalist.com/2019/02/20/12-craziest-college-classes-america-subsidized-tax-dollars/

They all sound a lot easier than Principles of Accounting!

Governor Squid

The U. S. hasn’t won a war since 1945...

Shut up! It was a tie!

...we already have the Special Olympics...

Then I could identify as trans-cognitively-delayed, and brag to all my woke friends about my collection of gold medals. I'm a winner! Yes sirree!

Governor Squid

What happened to my URL? Let's try this again:

Shut up! It was a tie!

Sam

The U. S. hasn’t won a war since 1945...

We also haven't fought a war since then, either. Reviewing the authorization to use military force exhibitions we come out with a mixed record:

Korea: Intent = stop Korea from being commie. Result = Half of Korea is commie. Draw.

Cuba: Intent = stop Cuba from being commie. Result = Cuba is commie. Loss.

Vietnam: Intent = stop Vietnam from being commie. Result = Vietnam is commie. Loss.

Dominican Republic: Intent = stop DR from being commie. Result = DR is not commie. Win.

Lebanon: Intent = kill Lebanese for revenge. Result = Many Lebanese killed. Win.

Grenada: Intent = stop Grenada from being commie. Result = Grenada is not commie. Win.

Panama: Intent = foreign drug bust. Result = Drug kingpin gone, drugs still available. Draw.

Gulf War 1: Intent = wreck Saddam's shit in Kuwait. Result = Kuwait not part of Iraq. Win.

Somalia: Intent = fix Somalia's shit. Result = Somalia is still shit. Loss.

Haiti: Intent = restore Haitian pres to power. Result = Pres is in power. Win.

Bosnia: Intent = stop genocide. Result = Genocide. Loss.

Kosovo: Intent = stop genocide. Result = Genocide. Loss.

Afghanistan: Intent = wreck Taliban's shit, kill Bin Laden. Result = Taliban wrecked, replaced. OBL eventually dies from autoerotic asphyxiation in cave. Loss.

Iraq: Intent = kill Saddam and break his toys. Result = everything broken. Win.

Iraq II: Intent = build a democratic nation in the middle east that serves as a bulwark against the regional muslim theocracies, notably Iran, while establishing a stable trading partner per western oil interests. Result = Gonna call this one an "L".

So all told a 6-7-2 record, which for all the money spent on transfer fees, free agency, and facilities is a disappointment. Perhaps a few more friendlies and some infusion of transgender talent and the US will be ready to declare a war for real and finally score some hardware to accompany the "Back-To-Back World War Champs" trophy that's collecting dust.

Hal

. . . . and the US will be ready to declare a war for real and finally score some hardware to accompany the "Back-To-Back World War Champs" trophy that's collecting dust.

Of course there's the proverbial Be careful what you wish for . . . .

After Valentine's Day, it's clear the Pentagon is in love with great power competition

The Marines are looking for new missiles to blast holes in enemy ships 'as fast as possible'

The Marines are training to fight big wars again

Farnsworth M Muldoon

@Sam

Vietnam: Intent = stop Vietnam from being commie. Result = Vietnam is commie. Loss.

Vietnam sort of commie, but now also very capitalist and also now a Pacific partner with whom we have trade and mil-mil exchanges and training. Slowest win in history.

Bosnia: Intent = stop genocide. Result = Genocide. Loss.

Nope, Sava crossed, M1 tank barrels stuck in Bosnian faces, genocide stopped. Win.

Kosovo: Intent = stop genocide. Result = Genocide. Loss.

Ditto above but with Kosovars. Win.

OIF and OEF-A - wins thrown away by politicians.

OEF-P: Assist AFP in containing Moslem terrorists* in the Philippines - successful. Win.

The biggest problem is not military, but with feckless politicians who won't let the military fight as it should.

*Includes the most unfortunately named group, the Moro Islamic Liberation Front, or MILF)

Zionist Overlord #73

@Steve

It would be like adults playing a competitive game against small children. How can that possibly be satisfying for anyone?

It's like an eight-year-old playing a competitive game against five-year-olds. Eight-year-olds really like that. Winning becomes easy, and it comes with the thrill of utterly dominating your opponent. Eight-year-olds have no problem ignoring their unfair advantage. Thing is, adults usually don't play along with that.

David

Eight-year-olds have no problem ignoring their unfair advantage. Thing is, adults usually don’t play along with that.

You also have to wonder how the female competitors feel. Presumably, there’s some social pressure to pretend everything is fine, even when, as in the powerlifting and basketball examples, their physical disadvantage is quite pronounced.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

Today (OK, it was yesterday) in other competition news, The Guardian goes off the rails again.

The stark fact is that, according to the latest figures, just 66% of BAME students achieved a first or 2:1 degree in 2016-17, compared to 79.6% of white students...Universities must truly embrace diversity by changing the way they do things to ensure equal opportunities for all students, irrespective of background. This can only be done by properly holding universities to account, and making diversity and inclusivity measures of a quality education.

Whether BAME students actually learn anything is irrelevant as long as there are enough of them and they are pushed through a diploma mill with undeserved grades, I guess.

However, in other diversity competition news, congrats to the West Yorkshire 5-0 Diversity Champs 2019 !

Darleen

Presumably, there’s some social pressure to pretend everything is fine,

Even professional athletes aren't immune from the Transcult mob. How can relatively unknown women, who have spent their lives training, make a stand and risk being barred from their sport altogether?

Pogonip

What’s a BAME student?

David

What’s a BAME student?

“Black, Asian, and minority ethnic.”

jabrwok

Re: Adults vs. Children: https://youtu.be/HKv6o7YqHnE?t=23s

David

Another level-headed feminist.

Pogonip

I think John Scalzi’s fans are 100% woke and he is trying to put off the day rhey notice he’s white. I also think it won’t help much when that day comes. Too bad. His blog is enjoyable.

Steve E

Do the ESP powers come before or after you get the blue checkmark?

It's amazing how the blue-few are able to divine what people really mean. In these days of declining and questionable literacy among the general population, I'm amazed to discover just how nuanced people are in their communications. So much so that it takes a BlueCheck to interpret.

pst314

I think John Scalzi’s fans are 100% woke...

Did I miss a Scalzi reference in one of the links?

Ten

Indeed are there any truly great science fiction movies?

Not yet. There is some fairly decent writing these days in various series, at least, generally when writers seem to realize that it's well past time to 1) cease missing expectations by constantly trying to surpass them and 2) just stop making militarism and horror in a vacuum.

I may have repeated myself there. Anyway, hope springs eternal. The genre deserves far better than what it's been saddled with for 50 years.

Sam

just stop making militarism and horror in a vacuum

Sorry pal, but people like the pew-pew, and for good reason. Horror is also common in the genre because sci-fi is already about the strange and unknown and the most common reaction to those things is fear.

As someone who was tired of comic book movies after X-Men 2 I understand your frustration, but if the market has poor taste then tough titties.

Sam

I think Reitman's Ghostbusters is going to do GIGANTIC numbers, in no small part because of the inevitable official and unofficial shit-flinging by the blue checkmarks. Fans of the original (here meaning people that have seen Ghostbusters more than 3 times in their lifetime) represent a huge amount of people, and something like 99% of them will go see this. Compared to the 2016 Fembusters - that did everything it could to alienate said fans - only the blue-hair contingent will boycott this one, which will push those on the fence TO the theater.

Given that Ballbusters 2016 grossed $128MM in the US, I'll say Rebootbusters hits $275MM domestic. That's (non-inflation adjusted) top 100 movies territory. Anyone want to take that bet?

Pogonip

Pst314, it’s David’s “another level-headed feminist” link.

I thought a remake of “Ghostbusters” was silly. Why not make a movie about the daughters of the original Ghostbusters instead?

Steve E

Behold, I give you the you the biologically female penis.

If a woman has a penis, her penis is a biologically female penis.

— IAM (@IndyaMoore) February 17, 2019

jabrwok

a biologically female penis

Words. They used to have meanings.

Governor Squid

Words. They used to have meanings.

From an author I'm sure you'll find familiar, my frabjous friend:

'When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, 'it means just what I choose it to mean — neither more nor less.'

'The question is,' said Alice, 'whether you can make words mean so many different things.'

'The question is,' said Humpty Dumpty, 'which is to be master — that’s all.'

That last statement is as close to a holy creed as you'll find on the Left.

Squires

If a woman has a penis, her penis is a biologically female penis.

Next time on Woke Statement or Wesley Willis Lyric!?

WTP

Words. They used to have meanings.

Literally.

Richard Cranium

The Marines are training to fight big wars again.

Duh. The US Army gained a lot of combat experience in VN, but it wasn't the type that helps you win against a peer opponent. It took over a decade to re-learn how to fight against a peer force. We were pointed to the story of Task Force Smith as a what not to do.

I've been out of the service over 20 years now, but I imagine that we've learned a lot about small unit operations against an enemy who has no air support, signal intercept, or access to indirect fires. That won't help a lot against, say, China.

Ten

Sorry pal, but people like the pew-pew, and for good reason...I understand your frustration, but if the market has poor taste then tough titties.

Other than "for good reason" I guess that's an observation.

[+]

tough titties.

Band name.

Ten

Not so incidentally, I just loved your take on original Solaris, David, and the excerpt from it of the Japanese highway really made the point.

Too many scifi films went that direction - that droning, obtuse, naval-inspecting tripe that has reviewers blathering about human conditions and reflections and reconsidering and all that crap that has nothing to do with what makes great scifi. Even 2001 succumbed to too much of it - as much arthouse fodder as it was notably original. That novelty can't last.

Some of the better writing in the field could be turning up in the oddest places. The Lost in Space reboot is marvelous for its restraint, modest goals, exceptionally developed science, high production values, and authentic human portrayals without pretense. Apparently someone remembered what Allen modeled the original after, even without all its running around between life-threatening catastrophes.

The Expanse is rushed, hamfisted, and overly dramatic at times, but when it gets rolling it really gets rolling. Some of the most interesting hard science in a series.

It could be Netflix turns out to be the astute bunch in the mix, and if Amazon actually does Ringworld and doesn't wreck it, good on them. Known Space not being on film yet is a shame - it'd counter-balance all the portentous thought pieces, like the variable PK Dick treatments...

Governor Squid

On the whole Ghostbusters hullabaloo, I find it truly annoying that the initial ploy worked so well, and continues to pay dividends. As I remember things, the producers only started pushing the sexism angle after they figured out that they had a bomb on their hands. It was a calculated, cynical ploy to stoke the SJW fires in an attempt to drum up free publicity, to guilt people into buying tickets to prove that they weren't the "wrong" kind of fans, and to provide a built-in excuse for the poor box office numbers that they knew they were going to see.

It worked, and it continues to work, and if I had any hair I'd be pulling it out in frustration (and a fair bit of envy, since these schemes never seem to pay off for anybody I find sympathetic). My one consolation is that they managed to lose a lot of money, as no amount of hysterics could motivate most people to cough up a pile of dough for the privilege of watching such a train wreck.

pst314

Pst314, it’s David’s “another level-headed feminist” link.

Thanks.

I think John Scalzi’s fans are 100% woke and he is trying to put off the day rhey notice he’s white.

Could be. I vaguely recall that when he first started blogging he was so Politically Correct, but quickly shifted far left in response to fan pressure. If true, that's pretty shamefully spineless. But regardless, I don't read him because I do not crave being lectured about "white privilege" by a gasbag who swallowed a Newspeak dictionary.

Daniel Ream

The Lost in Space reboot is marvelous for its restraint, modest goals, exceptionally developed science, high production values, and authentic human portrayals without pretense.

I'm not sure what version you're talking about, but around here we watched the Netflix reboot with fascination, then horror, then unrelenting mockery. So far the working theory is that the Resolute is actually the B Ark.

No, wait, I'm sorry, I have to call this out:

exceptionally developed science

Protip: if you're stranded outside in temperatures so cold they can flash-freeze saltwater, put on a hat.

Hal

I'll say Rebootbusters hits $275MM domestic. That's (non-inflation adjusted) top 100 movies territory.

Hmmm. Of what I see online, that seems to be Ghostbusters 3, as opposed to, say, older ghostbusters, and thus its own movie.

Adjusting for inflation, 'cause time did happen . . .

One, budget of $72m, box office of $714m

Two, budget of $89m, box office of $520m

Three . . . As Three I don't see more than ~$370m, aka about $180m for the original returns . . . And even if it manages to be its own movie, it's still not The First Time, so even then I'd say prolly more just $405m for 2019 . . . .

Ten

I think John Scalzi’s fans are 100% woke and he is trying to put off the day rhey notice he’s white.

Could be. I vaguely recall that when he first started blogging he was so Politically Correct, but quickly shifted far left in response to fan pressure.

As I recall Scalzi was an Instapundit find, and greatly fawned over.

pst314

As I recall Scalzi was an Instapundit find,

Now that you mention it, yes, I recall that now.

and greatly fawned over.

My recollection isn't that good. :-) Are all those old Instapundit posts still accessible?

Ten

The Lost in Space reboot is marvelous for its restraint, modest goals...

I'm not sure what version you're talking about, but around here we watched the Netflix reboot with fascination, then horror, then unrelenting mockery. So far the working theory is that the Resolute is actually the B Ark.

You missed the restraint and modest goals. Probably the context too.

What it isn't is the truly endless barrage of scifi embarrassments. What it has are at least a few references to physics of a depth I don't recall from filmed scifi, which considering that it's also not the usual mindless spectacle - Kirk on motocross to save the day, banking through endless visible stars at multiples of lightspeed, or universe-killing rocks and God characters - is a feature. Sorry, that last is part of the fantasy universe and not strictly scifi.

To those scientific high points LOS '18 added natural character development, good acting and story-telling, and believable predicaments. The point being that for throwaway scifi, someone cared to write like it wasn't, the reverse of $12 big screen scifi.

But mockery it'll be. Ourscifi is serious to the point of spectacle.

Pst314

Oops: intended to write “...he was NOT so Politically Correct...”

Sam

Hal

Boxofficemojo, as far 30 seconds of perusal can tell, reports non-inflation adjusted numbers, and I'm not using a damned calculator for an internet bet. They also report domestic vs international, which I did not see you differentiate. I don't know what you mean by "it's own movie". Yes, it will be a movie. With actors and everything. The main thrust of the bet was that the 2019 movie would gross roughly double US what the 2016 version did.

I'll put you down for the "over".

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