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May 21, 2019

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JuliaM

Liberty seem to have realised what their name means:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-48315979

I'm sure it won't last long, though.

Jen

condemned science as “fataphobic” for “promoting the idea that certain bodies are fit, able and desirable.”

Reality's a bitch.

David

Reality’s a bitch.

Ms Rashatwar is a “community organiser” and self-described “donut queen.”

But remember, her high blood pressure and other health issues are nothing to do with her own prodigious eating habits. It’s all the fault of the fataphobic white supremacist patriarchy.

I’m guessing her relationship with reality is not an altogether happy one.

Clam

cooking the books for “diversity”

The solution to the academic achievement gap lies in cultural change, not in yet another attack on a meritocratic standard. Black parents need to focus as relentlessly as Asian parents on their children's school attendance and performance. They need to monitor homework completion and grades. Academic achievement must no longer be stigmatized as "acting white." And a far greater percentage of black children must be raised by both their mother and their father, to ensure the socialization that prevents classrooms from turning into scenes of chaos and violence.

That.

Lancastrian Oik

The need for due process in the culture wars.

In my book "Whiteshift"*, I argue that we need a moral jurisprudence that mirrors our legal body of rulings to decide whether individuals are ‘guilty’ of ethical transgressions and what the severity of punishment should be. At present, this is decided in a Hobbesian war between competing interests and ideologies, with the strongest faction getting its way. Punishment typically consists of a unitary sentence of sacking and excommunication.

Much better, surely, would be a rational approach, which seeks empirical evidence of harm, consistent precedent-based sentencing of individuals across time and place, and principles whose conclusions flow from their premises. After all, even if the law upholds rules such as innocent until proven guilty or freedom of expression, when institutions such as universities, government bodies or corporations shift from a ‘reasonable person’ to a ‘most sensitive person’ standard, and fail to calibrate their penalties to the severity of the offence, we collectively become less free, fair and rational. A virtual Supreme Court or online nonpartisan Task Force could act as the relevant body to which plaintiffs may appeal in the quest to clear their name or reduce their sentence.

Target acquired and then missed by about, ooh, a million parsecs.

I mean, just imagine the faffing about that this would engender.

*And that's a non-starter, too.

Lancastrian Oik

Giving it a bit more thought- the article should have ended with the phrase "Much better, surely, would be a rational approach..."

Farnsworth M Muldoon

... a self-proclaimed Fat Sex Therapist, compared fitness trainers to Nazis...

To be fair, good fitness trainers are like Nazis because they, just like the Nazis*, proved beyond all doubt that anyone can be made to lose weight.

When the local seafood is testing positive for opioids...

The headline vs. buried at the end...

The institute reported that the amount of oxycodone found in the tainted mussels was thousands of times lower than a therapeutic dose for humans. And the highly addictive drug was only ingested by mussels in three of 18 test sites, described as highly urbanized and not near any commercial shellfish beds.

Homeopathic fish and shellfish. Not exactly TEOTWAWKI, though the ability to detect ever increasingly minute and insignificant trace molecules is to be applauded.

The tolerant left, Chapter 88726.


*(TBF to the Nazis, all dictators, for that matter)

TerryH

Titania McGrath: https://twitter.com/TitaniaMcGrath/status/1130571613353725952

The idea that the first to cross the finish line should be considered the “winner” is the reason why obese people are so underrepresented in competitive racing.

Me: merit is sooo overrated. Results should be proportional to identity, just like MLK said.

John Square

@Lancastrian Oik

"In my book "Whiteshift"*, I argue that we need a moral jurisprudence that mirrors our legal body of rulings to decide whether individuals are ‘guilty’ of ethical transgressions and what the severity of punishment should be...."

This is a case of 'if it ain't broke...'. Having a systematised way of judging whether individuals are guilty of ethical transgressions is better than the mob alternative ('He who shrieks loudest and most piously carries the day'), but everyone getting together to decide that actually existing law is probably good enough and everything else should be left alone is probably the best of the routes to success available.

WTP
Much better, surely, would be a rational approach, which seeks empirical evidence of harm, consistent precedent-based sentencing of individuals across time and place, and principles whose conclusions flow from their premises. After all, even if the law upholds rules such as innocent until proven guilty or freedom of expression, when institutions such as universities, government bodies or corporations shift from a ‘reasonable person’ to a ‘most sensitive person’ standard, and fail to calibrate their penalties to the severity of the offence, we collectively become less free, fair and rational. A virtual Supreme Court or online nonpartisan Task Force could act as the relevant body to which plaintiffs may appeal in the quest to clear their name or reduce their sentence.

Reminded of this Steve Martin bit. Of course it seems the original SNL video is unavailable so the transcript will have to do.

Theodoric of York, Medieval Judge : Wait a minute, perhaps she's right. Maybe the king doesn't have a monopoly on truth. Maybe every man should be judged by his peers... a, a jury of his peers! Six good men. No wait, eight good men. No... ten good men! No, that's not enough, let's see... Eithteen good men. No, that's too many. Let's see, eleven good men. Wait! Thirteen good men. No, eleven or thirteen, it really doesn't matter.

Theodoric of York, Medieval Judge : [after pausing for a moment] Naahhh!

Darleen

AOC, doing the important work of decolonizing your vegetable garden.

The Phantom

Saying their once-beloved viewers have lost much of their lustre in recent years, Game Of Thrones showrunners D.B. Weiss and David Benioff acknowledged Friday they have been frustrated with the way fans of the HBO series have declined in quality over the past few seasons.

The Onion is no longer parody. I can get you a real quote from a Marvel Comics vice president of sales that says worse about comic book buyers.

From 2017: "But speaking at the Marvel retailer summit about the studio's falling comic sales since October, David Gabriel told ICv2 that retailers had told him that fans were sticking to old favourites. "What we heard was that people didn't want any more diversity," he said. "They didn't want female characters out there. That's what we heard, whether we believe that or not." He added: "I don't know that that's really true, but that's what we saw in sales … Any character that was diverse, any character that was new, our female characters, anything that was not a core Marvel character, people were turning their nose up."

Because you can't parody the Left. No matter how crazy and fucked up your example is, they will top you.

David

AOC, doing the important work of decolonizing your vegetable garden.

Today’s words are honk and honk.

Boatswain's Mate

Smash Antifas with bricks! Deplatform them! No space for Antifas! Shame them! Ostracize them! Make it so that they'll never want to show their faces in public!

Wait ... what?

Hold on. Lemme rethink that last bit.

David

speaking at the Marvel retailer summit about the studio’s falling comic sales since October, David Gabriel told ICv2 that retailers had told him that fans were sticking to old favourites.

Amazingly, readers don’t buy superhero comic books to endure badly-written, ill-informed, patronising lectures by ostentatiously woke characters who seem to exist primarily to deliver badly-written, ill-informed patronising lectures.

Insulting at least half of your own audience, directly or implicitly, isn’t an obvious winning strategy, commercially speaking.

[ Added: ]

I lost interest in the medium before the Great Enwokening, but I’ve seen plenty of evidence that, for many titles, storytelling and character have taken a back seat to indulging the writers’ tediously uniform political narcissism. Because everything must now be politicised, apparently, however ineptly or incongruously.

And so you end up with, say, Black Lives Matter cropping up, carefully sanitised and portrayed as self-evidently heroic, while mainstream views of which the left disapproves – a concern about illegal immigration, assimilation, free speech or whatever – are often shoehorned into the mouths of homicidal supervillains, whose views are used to signal dastardliness. Which is to say, a great chunk of the readership is being told, with varying degrees of directness, that their concerns, or the concerns of their friends or their parents, are reprehensible, something to be punished.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

AOC, doing the important work of decolonizing your vegetable garden.

“What I love too is growing plants that are culturally familiar to the community. It’s so important,” the freshman congresswoman said in an Instagram video while exploring a Bronx community garden.

Plants familiar to people who live in the Bronx - some grass (both kinds), and an occasional tree ?

David

By the way, Ms Rashatwar, our doughnut-loving “fat activist,” equates routine health advice with eugenics and “Nazi science,” and claims that “diet culture and fat phobia are forms of sexual violence.”

Behold her wisdom here.

The Phantom

Which is to say, a great chunk of the readership is being told, with varying degrees of directness, that their concerns, or the concerns of their friends or their parents, are reprehensible, something to be punished.

Oh very much. I lost interest in about 1993, previous to which I have been an avid buyer of comics. I have the collection to prove it. ~:D I lost interest when two-page panels of blood-spatter became the "in" thing, along with anti-heros.

Of interest is the incestuous nature of the virtue signalling crowd in Hollywood, publishing and comics.

https://phantomsoapbox.blogspot.com/2017/04/found-out-why-marvel-has-been-sucking.html

In 2017 two Marvel comics, Ms. Marvel and Black Panther, were nominated for the Hugo award. Ms. Marvel was not a raging sales success and still isn't, while Black Panther was moving ~8000 copies per issue which is abysmal. It was cancelled, and a follow-on series was cancelled after two issues.

The net result of this circular arrangement is that publishers produce what wins awards, and the awards are given to the "right" books. Meaning crap no one reads keeps getting pushed out the door, and even imminent bankruptcy has no effect on the management OR the twerps in charge of the awards.

David

Elsewhere in academia.

The Phantom

New York City screwels.

Three generations of worthless "teachers" and administrators, desperately trying to protect their Iron Rice Bowls from the disaster they themselves created in NYC since the 1960s. Fifty years of fail.

Also, I saw somewhere else today, trying to explain/hide the fact that white students, even the ones from crappy homes with no money, score a full standard deviation higher on the SATs than the black kids. Even the ones from good homes with lots of money.

On average, of course. And lest we pallid people of pallor all be too cocky, Asians score higher than whites, on average.

I say, toxic culture! Because there's enough half-black kids in the USA that the curve would move just from them if it was down to genetics.

And by culture, I mean the white kids shut up and at least listen in class. A lot more than the black kids. The Asian kids actually do homework.

The Phantom

And speaking of schools: Body armor.

https://ottawasun.com/news/local-news/ottawa-educators-offered-padded-shirts-arm-and-shin-guards-to-protect-themselves-from-violent-students/wcm/8fa028c9-ef1c-4121-8cd6-f2344d4599f6

"Educators at Ottawa’s English school boards can wear shin and forearm guards, foam-padded jackets and reinforced gloves to protect themselves from students who bite, kick, scratch and punch.

The “personal protective equipment” is employed as a last resort, say spokespeople for the Ottawa-Carleton District School Board and the Ottawa Catholic School Board."

David

Educators… can wear shin and forearm guards, foam-padded jackets and reinforced gloves to protect themselves from students who bite, kick, scratch and punch.

Well, I suppose it’s better than being armed with the full weight of an emergency whistle.

Pogonip

Is there anything that is NOT sexual violence to feminists.? I can’t think of anything. I wonder how many funny uncles a biographer would find when delving into their pasts. If correct, we have 2 big problems here:

1). These women need treatment they aren’t getting. OK, granted, a lot of Americans can’t get treatment for conditions a lot more life-threatening than PTSD, but what about feminists in the First World? These countries need to reform their commitment laws so their feminists can get the help they need.

2.). Ruling-class men abdicated to mentally ill women who are incapable of ruling a nation. These men owe these women an apology and owe it to the rest of us to resume their rule. And we deserve an apology too.

Pogonip

I looked up 7 big-name feminists (all I had time for). There was surprisingly no mention of sexual abuse in childhood for 6 of them. I suppose it could have happened and they kept it quiet, but I think that unlikely—feminists aren’t exactly known for keeping quiet about their personal problems. What they all did have in common was being fatherless or having a very poor, but non-incestuous, relationship with Dad if they did know who he was.

There are plenty of fatherless women, and women who have lousy fathers, who don’t go crazy and become SJW feminists. More research is needed. But not by me. I have too much to do, sorry.

3 of the 7 big-name feminists were Jewish and one was the illegitimate daughter of a Jewish man who refused to have anything more to do with her or her mother after her birth. I only know a handful of Jews myself (all of whom have perfectly average family relationships) so I cannot offer an opinion on whether Jewish father-daughter relationships are unusually fraught compared to other faiths, or on whether when Jewish women crack up they do so in a particularly public manner. I just don’t have a big enough sample size. (9 people, 2 of whom are what is usually called “ethnically Jewish” but do not practice the Jewish faith.). More research is needed. But not by me.

Pogonip

David, stop wiping the bar! More research is needed!

Considering that group traits of everybody from fat folks to southpaws have been extensively studied, I was surprised I couldn’t pull up group info on feminists. I had to look each big name up individually. Maybe I worded the query wrong.

Uma Thurmond's Feet

Sonalee Rashatwar blames the Reagan administration "for having refused to provide “social supports that also help me to subsidise my food costs.”

Given that she got her B.A. after entering college in 2006, assuming she was 18 when she did so, that means she was born in 1988, the last year of his administration. Even if she was a few years older, I find it hard to believe that her mother needed taxpayer money for more formula than what the government was already providing at the time through the WIC program.

Daniel Ream

I’ve seen plenty of evidence that, for many titles, storytelling and character have taken a back seat to indulging the writers’ tediously uniform political narcissism.

The YouTube Channel Diversity in Comics has been chronicling this for some time. No matter how bad you think it is, let me assure you: it is much, much worse.

even imminent bankruptcy has no effect on the management

Not relevant. Neither DC nor Marvel comics have been profitable in decades. They serve as idea factories for the TV and film divisions of their parent companies. They're an R&D expense, and so the bottom line isn't material to their decisions.

Unfortunately the same can't be said of the larger ecosystem. Something like 50%+ of specialty comic shops in North America have gone under in the last ten years, and many of them directly blame Marvel producing books the customers don't want.

More research is needed!

Not really. I hate you Daaaaad/Pay attention to meeeeeee adequately explains the behaviour of modern feminism without further analysis required.

As an aside, just because they haven't yet mentioned childhood abuse doesn't mean it didn't happen. It's common for BPD/CPTSDs to downplay or dismiss their childhood abuse as irrelevant in order to avoid having to acknowledge the impact it had on their psyche. Much of Richard Dawkins' work takes on a different tenor once you know that he was molested at a religious boarding school as a child. A fairly well-known Canadian conservative pundit who frequently criticizes the Catholic church only acknowledged a similar incident a couple of years ago (although, much like Dawkins, the signs were pretty obvious).

billdehaan

Which is to say, a great chunk of the readership is being told, with varying degrees of directness, that their concerns, or the concerns of their friends or their parents, are reprehensible, something to be punished.

I remember in the 1980s, apartheid was the social topic that caring people ™ wanted to be seen fretting about, in order to prove their bona fides. There were a number of comics that were either anvillicious or flat out political tracts, including one issue of Teen Titans that had almost two consecutive pages of characters discussing South African facts and figures, which came right out of ANC brochures.

And the sales of those issues absolutely tanked.

There's nothing wrong with being socially aware, and some great comics have been done that raise awareness. I'm thinking of things like the Denny O'Neil/Neal Adams GA/GL books in the early 1970s. But there's a huge disconnect between showing issues, and letting people decide for themselves, and lecturing like a finger-wagging scold.

jabrwok

A fairly well-known Canadian conservative pundit who frequently criticizes the Catholic church

Well don't leave us hanging! The only two Canadian pundits with whom I'm familiar are Mark Steyn and Jordan Peterson, and I don't recall either of them being particularly anti-Catholic (and Peterson's "conservative" bona fides are questionable).

jabrwok

But there's a huge disconnect between showing issues, and letting people decide for themselves, and lecturing like a finger-wagging scold.

One of the drawbacks of the printed word is that, pre-Internet, it was almost always a monologue. The author would preach to the world, and receive no immediate feedback, let alone push-back, so the temptation to push an agenda was always there. Marvel has been guilty of this from its earliest days, with the X-men being stand-ins for the marginalized group du jour (blacks, gays, whatevers).

WTP

One of the drawbacks of the printed word is that, pre-Internet, it was almost always a monologue. The author would preach to the world, and receive no immediate feedback, let alone push-back

Bingo. That and the fact that responding to media via post office was much more time consuming with the only chance of verification that you were heard would only come if they selected your letter for publishing op-ed so to speak. And the odds of that, both parties generally understood, was if either you played the media's game and were rather obsequious in your counterpoint or were so nasty and/or stupid that they could use you as an example of the unreasonableness of other opinions.

Darleen

Instalaunch!

David

Is there anything that is NOT sexual violence to feminists?

The frequency and incongruity with which the subject is invoked – in this case, the alleged molestation of routine health advice – does suggest an… odd preoccupation.

David

condemned science as “fataphobic” for “promoting the idea that certain bodies are fit, able and desirable.”

Reality’s a bitch.

See also Ms Stacie Huckeba, who told Guardian readers that obesity is “true beauty” and something to celebrate and encourage, while admitting that her own obesity resulted in breathing difficulties, back pain and continual discomfort, along with deranged screaming fits at polite strangers, and while admitting to great relief and a sense of “freedom” upon losing weight.

Pogonip

Well, I regret that I am not svelte in my old age, but nice people still open doors for me. Even when I don’t have a .45 on my hip.

David

Well, I regret that I am not svelte in my old age, but nice people still open doors for me.

As I’ve said before, I don’t generally care about a person’s size and wouldn’t usually pass comment; but fat activism does tend to involve a lot of psychodrama and self-contradiction.

MC

the alleged molestation of routine health advice – does suggest an… odd preoccupation

Maybe, but I find that, when my mates point out in jovial fashion that I could stand to lose a few kilos round the midriff, shouting "Leave me alone you fucking rapists!" is a really good way to stave off the banter.

David

shouting “Leave me alone you fucking rapists!” is a really good way to stave off the banter.

Well, that works for pretty much anything. Like being asked for directions, or when handed the bill for the meal you’ve just eaten.

#LifestyleTips

Captain Nemo

Why bother with Mozart, when you've got Stormzy?

https://news.sky.com/story/stormzy-should-replace-mozart-in-uk-music-classrooms-study-says-11725859

David

Why bother with Mozart, when you’ve got Stormzy?

National charity Youth Music has said the curriculum needs a major shake-up to improve levels of attendance and aid the development of disillusioned youngsters, with the more than 200-year-old symphonies of the Austrian composer unlikely to ever find a place on their Spotify playlists.

There was a time, not too long ago, when pupils from modest backgrounds would be introduced to the music of Mozart, Bach, etc., precisely because of the fact they might otherwise never encounter it. Apparently, this approach is now deemed terribly old hat.

PiperPaul

"development of disillusioned youngsters"

Not sure if the goal is to create or correct this phenomenon.

David

Why bother with Mozart, when you’ve got Stormzy?

The trend among leftist educators towards shrinking the wider world and its possibilities in order to “reflect” the students’ own “identities,” and their adolescent preoccupations, and thereby spare them from feeling ignorant or parochial, has been noted before. See, for instance, the first item here. And the third and fourth items here.

[ Added: ]

At risk of sounding antiquated, you’d think that an education worth having might, by design, remind students of just how little they currently know and how much there is to find out. Whether about music or anything else.

Horace Dunn

...you’d think that an education worth having might, by design, remind students of just how little they currently know and how much there is to find out. Whether about music or anything else.

Somehow, I can't see that going down well as a proposition at an NUT meeting.

MC

Why bother with Mozart, when you’ve got Stormzy?

The Youth Music website is an excellent example of much that's wrong with the 'charity' sector. Looking at their website, you'd think the ethnic make-up of Britain was much the same as that of Soweto. Until, of course, you come to the (lengthy) staff page, which is full of lily-white types who look like they wouldn't survive a 3 week soy drought.

Funding comes, naturallement, from the Arts Council of Great Britain ie the poor bloody taxpayer. The Arts Council provides 94% of Youth Music's funding. On the bright side, staff costs are less than 10% of the budget.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

Meanwhile, in The Great White North, a vegan claims his human rights were violated.

“On some days during my deployment to William’s Lake, I was not provided with any food that was vegan or not otherwise contaminated with animal products, and therefore forced to go hungry,” he wrote.

No, you chose to go hungry.

But the real breaking point came the next day when he picked up his lunch, where, he alleged, half of the food was non-vegan.

He poured it out in front of food staff and said, repeatedly, “this isn’t vegan.”

That’s when his supervisor sent him home.

Sent him home from being deployed to a giant forest fire where obviously the most important logistic thing was to make the food service for the other 999 firefighters comply with this one idiot's whims. I'll bet he wonders why normal people think he is a PITA.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

Related to the above, those who do not study history, are doomed to be buffoons.

Also, I'm not seeing the downside.

Pst314

Instalaunch!

I think you meant “Instalanch”, although “instalunch” would be appropriate for a “fat activist”.

Pst314

who look like they wouldn't survive a 3 week soy drought

Heh.

Daniel Ream

Marvel has been guilty of this from its earliest days

I read classic comics by getting pirate torrents of scans of original physical issues. It's not a cost thing; there are subscription services that will get you access to the entire DC/Marvel back catalog for next to nothing.

What it gets me is the original letters pages, which thanks to evolving information laws they don't have the rights to reprint. In the early days (1963-1979) both Marvel and DC printed letters across the gamut of opinion and they actively solicited feedback positive and negative. They had to; they were still independent and it was the only way to know what the customers wanted.

And DC was much more open about printing negative letters and responding to each one they printed. Stan Lee developed his "Stan The Man" persona early and didn't deviate. His responses to letters were just canned stock phrases.

Geoffrey

I'll admit that I don't know much about the history of Veganism, but I'm pretty sure it WAS invented by white people. Because only middle and upper class westerners are so goddamn privileged that they can afford to remove things like milk and eggs from their diet, and supplement themselves with vitamins.

No wonder these people constantly go on about white privilege, they secretly know they're covered in it, and their entire lifestyle depends on it.

Pogonip

That’s a pretty strange position to assume if the idea you’re trying to get across is “No sex for you.”

I imagine our U. S. government, which prefers importing temps to making new citizens, is quite pleased about the Lysistrata revival.

I have a full day ahead. Could somebody throw some raw meat into the pickled “egg” cage? Maybe that fireman has some left that he doesn’t want.

You know, if I was in a job where I might be deployed to a disaster area, and I was on a special diet, I think I’d keep a week’s worth of shelf-stable food ready to take with me, rather than assuming the disaster area would be able to accommodate me. Firemen rescue people. This guy’s too dumb to be entrusted with human life. I think they ought to move him out of the field and into the office.

Pogonip

Before I go, a quick question. Would a modern-day liberal-arts college student be likely to know about the Gordian knot? I read some time back that about half of them don’t know when WW II was fought, so I’m not assuming anything.

David

Why bother with Mozart, when you’ve got Stormzy?

In fairness, I don’t recall Mozart or Bach writing monotonous ditties about “getting freaky in the sheets” and “finishing with a facial.”

You know, for school.

“Fuck the government” and boasting about being able to “take your chick” presumably constitute those “social issues” that our taxpayer-funded ‘charity’ is praising Mr Stormzy for raising, ever so bravely.

Sam

David - I finally was able to watch the Everything and Nothing documentary recommended here, and it was slightly mind blowing with lots of what-ifs flying through my head. Thanks!

However the biggest "what-if" came to me when the presenter was describing the chain of philosophers and scientists that lead to these amazing discoveries, and how it all seemed to come to a stop in the early 1900s: imagine the world we would have now if we'd managed to avoid WW1 and were able to more-or-less peacefully transition from the romantic colonial to the modern industrial era? The decades preceding the Great War were definitely tumultuous but managed to produce outrages genius - and from all walks of life to boot.

Maybe I'm just sick of being stuck in the Clown World Timeline.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

This guy’s too dumb to be entrusted with human life.

Maybe not dumb, but certainly a smug, self-entitled nitwit with an overinflated impression of his worth and importance. I knew an orthodox Rabbi who would either pick out kosher stuff (or eat non-kosher rations if kosher weren't available) and not bitch about it, understanding as he did the concept of having to do expedient things in trying circumstances. Perhaps veganism is a more powerful religion.

I think they ought to move him out of the field and into the office.

Nah, into the unemployment line maybe, in the office he would only screw things up for everyone else, I am sure the other firemen would be delighted to have nothing but soy burgers out in the field.

David

I finally was able to watch the Everything and Nothing documentary recommended here,

[ Taps watch, rolls eyes. ]

Maybe I’m just sick of being stuck in the Clown World Timeline.

Testify, brother. Testify.

Hal

Why bother with Mozart, when you’ve got Stormzy?

. . . . symphonies of the . . . . composer . . . .

Hmm. So for swapping in rap instead of, say, Mozart, when noting a specific instance of rap, what does that melody sound like when transposed to a piano or harp, so that rap can be given a fair assessment in comparison to the music?

Hal

. . . when noting a specific instance of rap, what does that melody sound like when transposed to a piano or harp . . .

An old observation; Presenting the world's most boring sight gag, Liberace Plays Rap!!!

So we have the stage lit up with lights, the piano covered in sequins, the candelabra, himself comes sweeping out in a sea of feathers and more sequins, big smile, aaaaand, tink, tink, tink, tink, tink, tink, tink, tink, tink, tink, tink, tink, tink, tink . . . . . . .

Talk about a one note performance. Literally.

WTP

imagine the world we would have now if we'd managed to avoid WW1 and were able to more-or-less peacefully transition from the romantic colonial to the modern industrial era?

But would we have learned anything?

Sam

But would we have learned anything?

Well...did we learn the main lesson of the 20th century - that governments are the single biggest threat to human liberty and prosperity? Or did we learn that big governments/organizations can accomplish anything, given enough power and influence?

Did we learn to preserve what is best from the past while incrementally changing for the better, or did we smash everything and learn to hate ourselves?

Hal

I'll admit that I don't know much about the history of Veganism, but I'm pretty sure it WAS invented by white people. Because only middle and upper class westerners . . . . and their entire lifestyle depends on it.

Oh, this cluster of affectatious spasming isn't particularly "white" and definitely is not upper class, and goes back to at least the early nineteen empties. This round of the particular mindset first congealed when declaring they were to be called "preppys", and then extended from there. Such a behavioral fiasco has nothing at all recent or original about it. There are identical and well documented parallel instances of frantically demanding pointless and unworkable attention based on behavior or acquisition in French colonial Congo with the sapeurs, and all of the behavior is merely bog standard cargo cult posing and posturing . . . .

Hipster, chav, preppy, [insert latest term here], sloane, yuppy, yob, all merely being absolutely the same behavior of I do or have [fad Stuff], therefore everyone is required to openly and repeatedly declare me to be utterly wonderful, fawn over me endlessly, and enable my delusions even more . . .

And, no, the [hipster . . .preppy] is not upper class, upper class is the entirely different mindset. This lot is merely a product of improved manufacturing of lower cost Stuff and behavior as driven by marketing---and thus these posers can choose to do all that behavior based on and enabled by that manufacturing and easy access.

Regardless of personal DNA of any mix, this lot is entirely the lowest of the middle class and---again, with those advances in manufacturing and advertising---sometimes working class . . .

David

what does that melody sound like when transposed to a piano or harp,

A few years ago, there was a televised celebration of Bond film music with a full orchestra and Honor Blackman as host. It was varying degrees of fun until they got to Madonna’s contribution for Die Another Day, which, when orchestrated, sounded comically thin and weedy in comparison.

Runcie Balspune

I'm surprised they haven't called for the banning of the word ample yet.

a different James

Looking at their website, you'd think the ethnic make-up of Britain was much the same as that of Soweto. Until, of course, you come to the (lengthy) staff page, which is full of lily-white types who look like they wouldn't survive a 3 week soy drought.

*Applause*

That's magnificent.

It is also functions as a omni-purpose response to so much of the shite being pushed by Govt, "charities" and large corporations proclaiming their "wokeness".

Daniel Ream

Would a modern-day liberal-arts college student be likely to know about the Gordian knot?

No. Being a software developer, I work with a fair number of twenty-somethings on a day-to-day basis. They've routinely commented that they have to Google half of the things I say. I'll accept that when it's references to things like Gordius' knot or Procrustes' bed (look, I did minor in Classical Studies) but when it's things like idempotency or ACID compliance I weep for the future.

Hal

. . . until they got to Madonna’s contribution for Die Another Day, which, when orchestrated, sounded comically thin and weedy in comparison.

Oh.

Dear.

My.

. . . there was a televised celebration of . . . music with a full orchestra and . . .

Does bring to mind the 2003 concert done with the Melbourne Symphony Orchestra, where the guest artist for that occasion was Kiss.

One can definitely see the orchestra musicians quite having fun with the entire idea . . . .

Hal

APNewsBreak: Theme park to star 'Hunger Games,' 'Twilight'

I predict that once through the gates---and thus locked in---customers will be issued bows and sharpened stake arrows, will be told that there are no food stands of any variety, and that the only source of something to eat must be hunted down and killed and is Tinkerbell(1).

Brown said Lionsgate decided to create its first theme park to expand their international brand into China where films like "Twilight" and "Gods of Egypt" are popular.

(1)Well, let us consider the core details of such textual and cinematic concepts as Breaking Wind, The Twit Saga, Parts Wee And Twee.

In The Twit Saga we have entities who:
Are fixated on adolescents, early teens.
Float through the air.
Glitter.
Are recurringly seen in daylight.

. . . . Vampire. My. Ass.

That is Tinkerbell.

Jay  Guevara

Those who rail against “white privilege” as a determinant of academic achievement have a nagging problem: Asians. Asian students outscore white students on the SAT by 100 points; they outscore blacks by 277 points. It is not Asian families’ economic capital that vaults them to the top of the academic totem pole; it is their emphasis on scholarly effort and self-discipline.

Inter alia.

Captain Nemo

David, your spam filter is being capricious again. Could you check it for a reply I sent earlier for me, please, and free it? Thanks.

David

Nothing in the spam filter. Try again?

David

Right, time to be horizontal. Play nicely. Use coasters.

Captain Nemo

Oh, bother. I'd really rather not try again. It was quite a long reply, and why I was hoping it was stuck in the spam filter. Oh well.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

"Pioneers of gender equality...".

Pogonip

I thought David would NEVER go to bed.

Popcorn ball fight, everybody!

Hal

Saying their once-beloved viewers have lost much of their lustre in recent years, Game Of Thrones showrunners . . . .

Pentagon forms community of disinterest to plan Iran war

Homeland Security, however, did send a decision maker: senior executive Michelle Daenerys, who is head of Enforcement and Removal Policy. However, Daenerys told reporters that she wouldn’t be back and that she expects to be named Secretary in a few days.

“Given the never-ending Game of Fools that goes on at DHS,” she said, “I need to brush up on scorched-earth policies so I can fix this migrant thing down there on the border between Colorado and Mexico.”

TimT

"I'll admit that I don't know much about the history of Veganism, but I'm pretty sure it WAS invented by white people."

It goes back a fair way in a few cultures, Buddhist and Hindu mostly.

As it turns out, these traditional vegans were usually unwitting meat-eaters, getting proteins from the unseen moths and aphids that gathered on their food. Western standards of hygiene tends to eliminate such pests, though, hence the western vegans dependence on the sad protein pill....!

Chester Draws

I read some time back that about half of them don’t know when WW II was fought, so I’m not assuming anything.

The modern university student is, what, 20?, so born about 2000. WWII ended 55 years prior to that. Not only do they not have parents that fought, they have grandparents that didn't fight. Most of them will never have talked to a person that did serve. I have met almost no-one that served. I'm 55. (My granddad did serve, but he died before I was born.)

If we take people aged 65, and ask about a war fought equivalently earlier, the result would be that most of them could not tell you when it was fought. In my country (NZ), I would be amazed if most 65 year-olds could name the dates of the Boer War accurately. How many Americans could date accurately the equivalent wars of their time, such as the Spanish-American war (actually, I would suspect that most 60 year-olds would tell you that the US has never fought Spain).

It's all very well saying that WWII is important. But you thinking it is important doesn't actually make it so. It really is ancient history to young people.

Pogonip

Well, I’m pushing 60 and I know when the U.S.Civil War was fought.

Speaking of war, I am sorry to bring up Game of Thrones, but I read the books and I did wonder if the TV show let Tyrion make his great rouse-the-troops speech, which I enjoyed. Whoever was attacking King’s Landing was heading up the river, and Tyrion’s speech to the troops went something like “They’re coming to destroy our town, enslave our families, kick our puppies, and barbecue our kittens, so follow me and let’s go kill those bastards!” Best dialogue in the whole sordid saga.

Pogonip

Daniel, I hope you don’t weep; I never heard of idempotency (although I think they have pills for it these days) and whatever that other thing was.

So how do the young sprouts complain when they find themselves in a Procrustean bed?

I hope they don’t think the sword of Damocles is a TV show.

David

Right, voting done, ephemera compiled, and the sun is shining. Could be a good day.

Pogonip

Is that another Brexit election?

David

Is that another Brexit election?

In a manner of speaking.

Hal

Is that another Brexit election?

Brexit wasn't able to manage to occur on March 29th, when it was originally scheduled, or on the extended sell-by date of April 12 . . . . at which point all noted that, well, Um, Ooops, even for those rather disapproving of the European Parliament, there was still going to be the elections of the Members of the European Parliament---MEPs . . .

The next election to the European Parliament is expected to be held between 23 and 26 May 2019 and will be the ninth parliamentary election since the first direct elections in 1979. A total of 751 Members of the European Parliament currently represent more than 512 million people from 28 member states.
Fen Tiger

I live opposite a polling station. It's a beautiful day. So far, I would say voting has been quite a bit heavier than usual, tho' not as busy as it was in 2016.

David

So far, I would say voting has been quite a bit heavier than usual,

The ladies at the local polling station were expecting a busy day.

sH2

Is that another Brexit election?

Lefties are assaulting pensioners now.

https://twitter.com/jeremydrysdale/status/1131502651882004481

WTP

Daniel, I hope you don’t weep; I never heard of idempotency

Well neither had I until RESTful services came along. TBH, I wouldn't fault someone for not knowing much of any one specific thing in the software business beyond the fundamental basics. And as REST stuff hasn't come up in my little area of work in the last two years or so, I kinda forgot about it myself until it was mentioned here. The SW biz has gotten so huge, there are so many new (and mostly useless) ideas coming along every 15 minutes, that I'm suspicious of anyone who claims to know sooo much of this crap off the top of their heads without a significant degree of cynicism. Off the top of my head I can't give a reasonable explanation of many of the technologies on my resume. I need to look much of it up again before each interview. Some of that stuff I used regularly for a year or more. And I only have on my resume maybe 1/4 - 1/3 of the tech that I've used. I still get a brain freeze when asked to extemporaneously give an explanation of an inner vs. outer join, though I've written a few in my long ago past. But hey, I'm old. Though I would expect anyone under 30 or so in the business to know idempotency (heh...doesn't even pass my spellcheck), and anyone older to grasp it at first explanation. Ignorance is curable. Often quite easily so. Stupidity, not so much.

Sue Sims

Chester, no one's arguing that WWII isn't 'ancient history' to young adults and teenagers. What most of us would, I think, claim is that it's a defective education that fails to teach this 'ancient history'. After all, at school I learnt about quite a few major conflicts, from the Punic Wars (which really are ancient history) onwards.

By the way, Hal, re. an earlier post: chavs aren't in the same semantic field as yuppy, Sloane, etc: chavs here in Blighty are working-class (or, often, non-working-class), not upper middle, characterised by heavy use of taboo language and public drunkenness (which admittedly doesn't distinguish them much from their social superiors).

Pst314

Lefties are assaulting pensioners now.

A WWII in his 80’s. At the polling place as a teller (poll watcher in America.) British Army, Parachute Regiment, retired from military in 80’s, wrote two books about his military experiences.

pst314

"chavs"

From "Council House And Violent".
A radically different social category than "preppy" or "yuppie".

David

Lefties are assaulting pensioners now.

In happier news, as the chap was determined to stay at his post, as it were, a member of the public bought him a new shirt.

Daniel Ream

Daniel, I hope you don’t weep; I never heard of idempotency (although I think they have pills for it these days) and whatever that other thing was.

We make web apps that use REST APIs backed by databases. These are fundamental skills for a web developer.

I hope they don’t think the sword of Damocles is a TV show.

Well, actually...

Sue Sims

pst314: That's folk etymology. The OED has: "Probably either < Romani čhavo unmarried Romani male, male Romani child (see chavvy n.), or shortened < either chavvy n. or its etymon Angloromani chavvy.
It has also been suggested that this word is a colloquial shortening of Chatham , the name of a town in Kent where the term is sometimes said to have originated (compare quots. 1998, 2002), although this is probably a later rationalization."

David

A radically different social category than “preppy” or “yuppie”.

Guardian columnists get terribly upset if you use the word ‘chav’. Apparently, it’s “offensive to a largely voiceless group.” Though it seems to have escaped their attention that the word is most often used by working-class people to describe the kind of creatures they wouldn’t want living next door, or next door to their elderly parents. Which is to say, feckless and ill-mannered wasters, thugs and low-level sociopaths, and what might euphemistically be called “problem families.” The kinds of people who steal from their neighbours, play loud music at 3am, are often known by the police, and who, for entertainment, throw pets from upstairs windows.

But hey, victimhood.

pst314

"a largely voiceless group"

They're hardly voiceless. On the contrary, they are obnoxiously loud. Gotta love those cute Grauniad writers and their pet savages.

Darleen

It really is ancient history to young people.

So? That's not an excuse for ignorance. Nor an excuse for education systems not to teach it. The flippin' point of any education beyond learning basic readin, writin, ah-rith-mah-tic is to expose youngins and let them know of the wider world around them that existed and exists.

But there was a reason why slave owners didn't want their slaves educated - the same reason much of the university system is set up to cripple their students.

pst314

pst314: That's folk etymology.

Another clever idea, murdered by a cruel fact.
I suppose this is an example of the recurring lesson, "just because you read something in a blog or magazine does not make it true."

David

They’re hardly voiceless. On the contrary, they are obnoxiously loud.

Jemima, Tom and Zoe seem to assume a usage exclusive to their own middle-class peers, when in fact it’s much more common to hear the term in less Guardian-friendly circles. I suspect the usage by working-class people also offends our fretful columnists because it draws a distinction between the respectable working class and the antisocial vermin that roam among them and make their lives a misery. A distinction that jars somewhat with leftist conceits about how poverty comes about.

Sam

just because you read something in a blog or magazine does not make it true

There are no lies in this here pub, only liars.

David

just because you read something in a blog…

You take that back. You take that back right now.

[ Faints with indignation. ]

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