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June 08, 2019

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Joan

Such that Mr Aguilar, a 30-year-old man, is seeking validation of his own niche sexual politics in a children’s cartoon about talking dogs.

What a way to live.

Rafi

the oppressive “heteronormativity” of a character choosing to get married and have a child – an act that is “conservative” and therefore bad, apparently

Who does he think takes kids to the cinema?

David

Who does he think takes kids to the cinema?

Heh. Quite.

Watcher In The Dark

All I can say to the likes of Carlos Aguilar is "Shih Tzu, mate."

Mongo

Jordan Peterson talks about having a life filled with meaning and struggles.
The left have demonized everything normal.
This guy's life is dedicated to the struggle of fighting against that which he views as wrong and evil.
Too bad that he is attacking everything normal.

What he is doing is logically sound; he is fighting against what his brainwashed brain has been programmed to see as evil.

JuliaM

"...a lack of discernibly gay pet-owning couples..."

A lack of gay couples, or a lack of couples with gay pets...?

Joseph

The great irony is that it was a heternormative couple performing that conservative act of procreation that brought him into this world he rails at now.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

What he is doing is logically sound; he is fighting against what his brainwashed brain has been programmed to see as evil.

Related, and also speaking of shiny pieties, rich guy gives $26 million to 'Bama law school, proceeds to tell people to boycott said law school because of recent Alabama abortion law, said law school gives money back and tells rich guy to pound sand.

Rich guy plays victim.

"I want to make clear that I never demanded that $21.5 million be refunded and wonder if the University is attempting to silence my opinions by their quick response. I will not be silenced."

Silenced with interviews by national media. Poor downtrodden thing.

Jim Whyte

Those canines speak volumes (q.v.).

Bill de Haan

The phrase "Woke reviewer ... and gets terribly upset." appears to be generally true for any and all values of "...".

With that said, as a 30+ (heavy focus on the +) male myself, one who himself had a comic book hobby as a child that sees me still attending and enjoying many comic book based movies even today, I can somewhat sympathize with the disdain tossed at adults who do watch entertainment historically aimed at children. Of course, whether the Marvel movies are actually aimed at children or not is open to debate.

But even so, even I admit that they are intended as light hearted entertainment. I mean, Winter Soldier can be looked at as being a good cold war thriller, just with the leads dressed in spandex, but it's not exactly Citizen Kane.

I don't go into comic book movies expecting to see Citizen Kane. Our intrepid reviewer seems to have expected a child's cartoon movie to be Shindler's List, apparently.

What does it say about you when you're so fragile that a child's cartoon triggers an emotional breakdown? I know some war veterans with actual PTSD, and even they aren't that that messed up.

Apparently, his sensitivity training seems to have been overly successful (ie. "severely educated"). He's too sensitive for the world of children's cartoons, let alone the real world.

Schlepper

Saying "it's just for kids" or "it's just a cartoon" seems to me to be an unprincipled exception to the official morality that no family arrangement is to be defined as "normal", and no configuration in number or gender of parental units is to be defined as "natural". If those are agreed to be "family values", then surely the very place we should expect them to be modeled and reinforced is in children's entertainment and play?

David

In other news, Carole writes for the Guardian.

Via Damian.

Duke

The more the 'woke' left hates us (normals), the more we are going to learn to hate them. Eventually it's going to come to violence (already has to some extent)and that is when the woke left is going to find out how badass the normals can get.

Sort-Of-Mad Max

What's even better about the poor downtrodden rich guy in Alabama is that Daddy left him all the money in the first place.

Good on the university for telling him to shove it; better would be just to drop the 'Jr' off of the buildings and honor his late father instead. That'd get Dr. Oedipus called to the white courtesy phone stat!

Farnsworth M Muldoon

...the poor downtrodden rich guy in Alabama...

Even sillier, the guy is not even an Alabamian, he is a Florida Man™...

PiperPaul

"his brainwashed brain has been programmed"

Again the old question: does leftism cause mental health issues or do people with mental health issues gravitate towards leftism?

pst314

Again the old question: does leftism cause mental health issues or do people with mental health issues gravitate towards leftism?

Yes.

Killer Marmot

Is homosexuality at all genetic?

In previous generations, even many homosexuals had wives and kids due to overbearing social pressure to appear straight, and perhaps due to personal revulsion of one's own sexual desires. But with such social strictures mostly gone, homosexuals are free not to reproduce, which suggests that modern societies are now strongly selecting for heterosexuality.

pst314

Is homosexuality at all genetic?

I recently read an article on the internet saying that boys raised by gay men to whom they are not genetically related are more likely to become homosexual.

Pogonip

I think it might be, although first you’d have to define what you’re going to consider “homosexuality” as human behavior runs on a continuum. On one end you’ve got guys like David & Mr. Half, on the other end you’ve got guys like my dad who was baffled as to why anyone would be interested in engaging in homosexual behavior of any sort, and then there’s a whole bunch of guys in the middle. ‘Twas ever thus; our 20/21st century strict gay/straight dichotomy was historically unusual and seems to be going away already.

Ted S, Catskill Mtns, NY, USA

In other news, Carole writes for the Guardian.

The tweet Kate quotes has been deleted.

Ted S, Catskill Mtns, NY, USA

Our intrepid reviewer seems to have expected a child's cartoon movie to be Shindler's List, apparently.

Not quite, Bill. The reviewer wants the kids' movie to contain agitprop that reflects his personal political/cultural outlook. There are a lot of reviewers who take the view that if a movie does reflect their particular outlook, then the movie is automatically great. Look at a lot of IMDb reviews for Douglas Sirk's films.

I also remember many years ago hearing a feature on a radio program discussing Christmas movies, and the critic absolutely hated It's a Wonderful Life. One of her main beefs was that the movie in focusing on George Bailey's importance, was selfish and egotistical, which completely misses the point of the story. The other was that Lionel Barrymore's evil capitalist character doesn't get his comeuppance at the end, which also misses that the investigation that would have happened after the events of the movie was going to find out his dishonesty.

David

The tweet Kate quotes has been deleted.

Bugger. It was a fine example of the standards we’ve come to expect from Ms Cadwalladr, and from Guardian columnists generally, in that it was factually wrong on every count.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

...then there’s a whole bunch of guys in the middle. ‘Twas ever thus; our 20/21st century strict gay/straight dichotomy was historically unusual and seems to be going away already.

If by "whole bunch" you mean "tiny few", and by "going away" you mean "unbelievably hyped", OK, otherwise it doesn't pay to listen to the gender fluid nitwits.

Meanwhile, because of course it is, summer is sexist, "... said Abigail Saguy, a cultural sociologist of gender and a professor at UCLA."

Jay  Guevara

The great irony is that it was a heternormative couple performing that conservative act of procreation that brought him into this world he rails at now.

Posted by: Joseph | June 08, 2019 at 12:26,

I bet they regret that.

"Honey, Carlos is a ... maricon." /sobs

Jay  Guevara

I think it might be, although first you’d have to define what you’re going to consider “homosexuality” as human behavior runs on a continuum.

But unfortunately, HIV infection does not operate on a continuum. It is binary.

pst314

The great irony is that it was a heternormative couple performing that conservative act of procreation that brought him into this world he rails at now.

I have heard of lesbians getting sperm donations from gay men.

pst314

But unfortunately, HIV infection does not operate on a continuum. It is binary.

And the infection rate for all other STD's is much higher among gays too. (But don't suggest that changes in behavior and culture might be advisable, because that would be "hate.")

Pogonip

Yes, my late cousin donated in that scenario.

Baceseras

The tweet Kate quotes has been deleted

I like saying “tweet Kate quotes”.

Darleen

Is homosexuality at all genetic?

While a genetic component may be at work, research hasn't identified it. Additionally, homosexuality in women seems to arise and express itself very differently than homosexuality in men. Lesbianism appears more emotion based than erotic orientation. Straight women suddenly in lesbian relationships after falling in love with a woman or lesbian women falling in love with men.

In males, if it were entirely genetic, than identical twins would either be both gay or straight. Doesn't work that way.

And, of course, this still doesn't mean that sexual orientation is an act of free will.

Pogonip

Balloon pangolin!

https://www.thisiscolossal.com/2019/05/new-animals-by-masayoshi-matsumoto/?mc_cid=210cc56da4&mc_eid=d63b7b651c

Darleen

Our intrepid reviewer seems to have expected a child's cartoon movie to be Shindler's List, apparently.

I rarely miss a Pixar movie, not because it's "aimed at kids" but because they turn out to be some of the best written movies released. Indeed, the "animation/cartoon" genre label -- which I consider old-fashioned family movies (something for everyone)-- usually allows the writers/producers to relax as the Progressives obsessively police live-actor movies for Progressive transgressions.

Darleen

Oh my ... and to think this is a Democrat Presidential candidate. Even I'm embarrassed for her.

Friend

The great irony is that it was a heternormative couple performing that conservative act of procreation that brought him into this world he rails at now.

F***, no. /sarc

I'm lolling on this. Yes, absolutely. How anybody could think making children is not literally progressive. Right?!

Chester Draws

No comment, just killing the italics.

ComputerLabRat

Just where do these people think babies come from? Does this guy think that storks movie was a scientific documentary?

Pogonip

Now, that’s just silly, Lab Rat. Everybody knows babies come from under cabbage leaves. 🤪

jabrwok

I have heard of lesbians getting sperm donations from gay men.

I've occasionally entertained the gedankenexperiment in which homosexuals get their own nation (usually a Bishop Ring space habitat, because that's how I roll), and I wonder how they'd maintain their population. The lesbians could certainly bear children, but would each one be willing to bear two to three kids? Would their significant others devote as much attention to the other's children as to their own? Would the fathers play any role in the childrens' lives? If the fathers didn't want to be involved (or the mothers didn't let them involve themselves) then would the gay men be taxed at higher rates to subsidize the lesbian mothers? Would the men tolerate that?

I don't see a happy outcome for such a scenario. Perhaps such a society could maintain itself through immigration, but I don't think its TFR would ever even approach replacement.

Darleen

Wow, it's amazing what assumptions I can make when UK police refuse to actually identify the perps.

Flubber

"Wow, it's amazing what assumptions I can make when UK police refuse to actually identify the perps.

Ah, those infamous MONA.

Men of no appearance.

See also - Coulter's Law.

Skeptic

What bothers me is the arbitrary lack of logic. Somehow, all sexual identity is a socially-determined choice which is infintely mellable - EXCEPT homosexuality, which is inborn and unchangeable, ever.

David

Wow, it’s amazing what assumptions I can make when UK police refuse to actually identify the perps.

It’s a signature of our age that we’re now accustomed to the police “appealing for information from the public” while simultaneously, and quite studiously, avoiding any reference to the appearance of the people they seek.

David

No comment, just killing the italics.

[ Slides bowl of grey peanuts along bar. ]

sH2

Again the old question: does leftism cause mental health issues or do people with mental health issues gravitate towards leftism?

Yes.

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/332849/

Ted S, Catskill Mtns, NY, USA

[ Slides bowl of grey peanuts along bar. ]

At least it's a step up from the pickled eggs.

David

At least it’s a step up from the pickled eggs.

They’re from… er, Eastern Europe.

Pogonip

The “eggs” or the peanuts?

Daniel Ream

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/332849/

Always with The Handmaid's Tale again.

As a Canadian d'un certain age, I've had Atwood shoved down my throat in an academic context for decades. This is part of a broader and separate problem with Canadian identity and CanLit generally, but it reaches its zenith with Atwood, who is probably the least self-aware Canadian writer I've ever encountered.

pst314

Somehow, all sexual identity is a socially-determined choice which is infinitely malleable - EXCEPT homosexuality, which is inborn and unchangeable

Except that whether homosexuality is socially- or biologically-determined depends entirely on which line is more politically convenient today. It has changed in the past and will change again: For the Left there is no objective truth, only Revolutionary Truth.

Pogonip

I read “The Handmaid’s Tale” ages ago and found it boring. Everybody just waits around for Offred to become pregnant, including Offred herself, and when she does escape it’s glossed over. It would have been much more interesting if the story had been about how the U.S. became Gilead.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

Your daily dose of sexism stupid: "To save the oceans, we must first empower women".

World Oceans Day is celebrated annually on June 8, and the United Nations has identified the theme of this year's celebration as "Gender and the Ocean." Wherever you look, women are subject to oppression and unequal opportunities in the marine sector...Yet women are more vulnerable to coastal natural disasters, particularly in households of low socioeconomic status [of course]...This World Oceans Day, I urge you to think about how you can overcome these biases to establish a more equitable and accessible ocean for all.

A) What is up with this new thing of giving exceptionally jejune teenagers a megaphone ?

B) Last time I looked, anyone* can go to the damn ocean and I've not yet seen an ocean that gives a damn who is in it.

C) RTWT - it is a leftist boilerplate marvel of a completely brainwashed mind.

*(Certain places that have religious restrictions on wxmyn excepted)

Pogonip

I’m so old I can remember when you were interested in something, you just went out and looked into it, without waiting around for a strong role model.

David

I’m so old I can remember when you were interested in something, you just went out and looked into it, without waiting around for a strong role model.

Heh. That.

pst314

I read “The Handmaid’s Tale” ages ago and found it boring...

That's often true of littra-chaw, especially the woke kind.

David

I’m so old I can remember when you were interested in something, you just went out and looked into it, without waiting around for a strong role model.

That’s the fundamental irony. If you were to base your estimation of womankind solely on the claims and psychodramas of modern feminists, who are allegedly empowered yet oppressed by everything, you might reasonably infer that women are too mentally fragile to function in the world without male supervision.

PiperPaul

"women are too mentally fragile"

So you're saying The Patriarchy is clandestinely supporting and funding emotionally-damaged, manipulatable and competence-challenged women and promoting them as examples of women in general in order to discredit all females?

PiperPaul

Forgot my closing tag.

< /cathynewman >

WTP

might reasonably infer that women are too mentally fragile to function in the world without male supervision.

And that would be wrong, yes? I'll check back in a few. Gotta go change the oil in the wife's car.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

OK, this is not intended to start a debate on abortion, and I don't care where you stand, but in the arguments for - a "fetus metes out violence", abortion is "going on strike against gestational work" - this is one of the most depraved things I have heard yet.

Listen to the whole thing, it is some seriously bizarre rationalization, particularly for someone who lives in the US and A where one can avoid "gestational work" by a stop at any gas station, a pill for $11 from Wally World, or any of a myriad of no to low cost options.

Daniel Ream

It would have been much more interesting if the story had been about how the U.S. became Gilead.

Atwood believed[1]that Gilead was the inevitable result of the US electing George W. Bush President. Apparently no one has ever pointed out to her that Gilead exists for real and is called Saudi Arabia.

[1] No, seriously, actually believed

David

And that would be wrong, yes?

You do realise I’m sending screengrabs to your long-suffering wife?

Darleen

Somehow, all sexual identity is a socially-determined choice which is infinitely malleable - EXCEPT homosexuality, which is inborn and unchangeable

Don't bet on that - the trans-cult is quite vocal that lesbians who refuse to have sex with women-with-female-penises are hate hate hatey transphobes.

AND among their prey is gay youth who may be struggling with their orientation. No, Sally, you're not some dyke, you're really a boy! Planned Parenthood is passing out testosterone just for the asking!

WTP

You do realise I’m sending screengrabs to your long-suffering wife?

Heh. But who do you suppose provides tech support, with all its sundry privileges, around here?

WTP

As I was typing that out...How long do you suppose it will be before systems administrators will have a new PC term for "privileges" forced upon them? Can't have white males back in tech support granting privileges, you know.

Juan

The ocean was a threatening, dangerous and, to quote the novel, "masculine" place -- no place for a girl like me. This notion has been perpetuated by cultural and societal biases and is represented in many of the ways we interact with our waters.

I was watching an interesting documentary about Bremerhaven harbor, where the producers were evidently seeking out female role models in the "marine sector", and found a female dredger operator and a female tugboat captain.

Watch this scene where the tugboat captain is dropping off a pilot at a cargo ship. Being a pilot in Bremerhaven is presumably a high-status, high-responsibility job with the best employment conditions German law can provide; the tugboat and cargo ship are the best technology the 21st century can offer; but the only way he can get into the cargo ship is to climb a rope ladder like it's 1805, one wrong move and he's in the sea crushed between hulls.

It's not a literary trope or a patriarchal fraud that "the ways we interact with our waters" are physical, strenuous, and dangerous. It's a reality, that can only be mitigated so far by safety regulations and technology. Not many men or women would choose a job where they had to climb that ladder. But more men than women are prepared to accept the risk for better pay or status ("Later in this talk we will ponder things like, why was it so rare for a hundred women to get together and build a ship and sail off to explore unknown regions, whereas men have fairly regularly done such things?")

If you can understand German, the rest of the documentary brings up some interesting issues. When the pilot comes back, he has a chat with the tugboat captain about the low quality of the cargo crew in whose hands his life was. Seafaring was always unpleasant, and it's becoming worse not better - a job done by third world crews under the lax regulations of flag countries like Liberia. When the tugboat lady was interning on a cargo ship, her Ukranian commanding officer thought her parents must have been very poor to have to send their daughter to sea. Western men, and even more so Western women, usually have better choices available to them. Even the tugboat captain, who's exceptional enough to enjoy the life on the ocean blue, chose a more domestic career path - in a rainy German harbor, but with German pay and German employment conditions.

Pogonip

Hi David,

Yep, the empowered-yet-oppressed are strange. Women hold up half the sky, but THESE women couldn’t hold up half a newspaper.

I wonder what the male of the species is like? The burning question: who opens the jelly jars in these households?

(We got one the other day that Son had to put some effort into, and he’s 6’4” and weighs 240!)

Farnsworth M Muldoon

The problem is, as has been stated before, there are so few real problems in the first world, that the ninnies have to invent them.

Oyster rights, or bottom feeders sticking up for their own.

Burnsie

Yet women are more vulnerable to coastal natural disasters, particularly in households of low socioeconomic status. Now more than ever, we need to strengthen our efforts to protect the marine world. This can only be achieved by addressing the inequalities that women and other genders face in a largely patriarchal society.

This young lady sure knows how to pack a load of non sequiturs into a single paragraph.

It's one of the finest examples of authentic feminist gibberish I've seen yet.

WTP

there are so few real problems in the first world, that the ninnies have to invent them.

Disagree. There are plenty of problems in the first world. But the most glaring one is that we continue to enable, feed, clothe, and house these people for years of post-adolescent adolescence. This is what we get for doing so. It's not so much that the ninnies invent silly problems as it is that via our education systems and culture we perpetually create so many ninnies. And it continues with no end in sight.

Pogonip

I wonder, though, are the people who write this stuff serious, or is it a giant prank on the rest of us?

Daniel Ream

How long do you suppose it will be before systems administrators will have a new PC term for "privileges" forced upon them?

We haven't been able to use the terms "master" and "slave" to refer to bus nodes for years.

pst314

"are the people who write this stuff serious, or is it a giant prank on the rest of us?"

Insert Laughing Stalin meme.

WTP

We haven't been able to use the terms "master" and "slave" to refer to bus nodes for years.

Which is why 20-30 years ago we all started using the terms client/server. Which I understand has now itself become problematic in certain quarters.

Pogonip

What are bus nodes?

Farnsworth M Muldoon

What are bus nodes?

Greyhound lymph glands.

Jeff Bauer

Not only are the world's oceans sexist, but now some thunder-thighed lardass thinks the Appalachian Trail is racist:

https://www.middletownpress.com/opinion/article/Mercy-Quaye-Dangers-of-hiking-the-Appalachian-13912330.php

Darleen

Behold the Bro-dazzle.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

...the Appalachian Trail is racist...

...I’d be remiss if I passed up the opportunity to discuss the ways in which even injury on the AT is privilege that has historically been inaccessible to people of color or the working class.

I've been to one world's fair, a picnic, and a rodeo, and that's the stupidest thing I've heard come over a set of earphones.

More so, the history of restricted access to outdoor recreation that blacks have faced is present in every black outdoor enthusiast’s life today. The history of blacks and swimming may by the clearest depiction of this.

Decades of being kept out of swimming pools and public beaches have led to a drowning epidemic in the black community in which black kids ages 11-12 are 10 times more likely to drown than white kids.*

Natalie Hinds was unavailable for comment.

Regardless, it is both sad and amazing how untroubled these types existences actually are that they have to imagine their entire lives have been lived in 1950s Mississippi ( which isn't even 1950s Mississippi anymore).

*(For those who are curious, between 2001 and 2017, there were a total of 1,999 drownings of 10-14 (that's the way the CDC reports) year olds (who have the lowest rate of all age groups of drownings). 1059 yte kids and 855 black kids drowned during this period - 17 years, or roughly 117/year, that is not "an epidemic".)

WTP

...the Appalachian Trail...

If you took all the items in my Things That Didn't Happen file and laid them end to end, they would stretch from here to the end of the universe and fill up the black hole in space.

...10 points to anyone who can identify where I ripped that off from...

Pogonip

If I undressed a gentleman who had been to the ball barber, I wouldn’t care if he was a plumber with a side hustle as a neurosurgeon (or the other way around). No matter how much money he made, I would yell “Get out of here, you freak!”

I mean, really.

pst314

I would yell “Get out of here, you freak!”

It was probably a good clue that he liked men more than he should. :-)

Gary

Access to outdoor recreation is mired in a history of extreme oppression...

https://davidthompson.typepad.com/davidthompson/2017/04/imagine-the-picnics.html

Well, I suppose we all knew that was the predestined conclusion, the only permissible one, and that fretting about it theatrically is something we need to do. And naturally, Ms Zak has an extensive, at times bewildering list of excuses for why any outdoors recreation should be tinged with guilt and wretchedness.

pst314

..."bewildering list of excuses for why any outdoors recreation should be tinged with guilt and wretchedness."

And why non-wealthy persons of color should be given government money so they can quit their jobs for six months to hike the Appalachian Trail. Not being able to afford to do that on her own is, it seems, some form of oppression.

Pogonip

On a happier note, small-unit tactics turns out to be a surprisingly interesting subject. And I didn’t even have to play dodgeball!

And of course George Clinton always makes everything better. Bow-wow-wow-yippie-oh-yippie-ay.🐶😄

fnord

We are hurtling down the path I foretold years ago:

step 1) tolerance -check

step 2) aceptance -check

step 3) mandatory celebration -look around you

step 4) compulsory participation - not quite yet, but who wants to bet against it. I predict that at least one homosexual act will be required in order to get a degree in social work, in order to demonstrate empathy dontchaknow.

fnord

Our intrepid reviewer seems to have expected a child's cartoon movie to be Shindler's List, apparently.

No, what 'he' wants is what they all want; that everything conforms exactly to whatever the current fasionable obsession is. An obvious solipisist who is upset when the real world deviates from the psychodrama playing out in 'his' head.

ComputerLabRat

The history of blacks and swimming may by the clearest depiction of this.
Decades of being kept out of swimming pools and public beaches...

I thought that had something to do with "black hair" and various do's etc. Far as I know, since segregation ended, the only thing keeping black people out of the water is black people.

First the woke movie critic and now this. I can't keep up with this crap.

fnord

Balloon pangolin!

While this displays impressive technical skill does it constitute art?

This is a discussion I'd be interested in, but only if all participants can agree beforehand that this is far closer to art that every piece of performance 'art' vomited onto a public that has been extorted into paying for it.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

Far as I know, since segregation ended, the only thing keeping black people out of the water is black people.

Having grown up in the segregated South, yep. It is true that access to public pools and some beaches was restricted, but not creeks, rivers, ponds, and lakes unless on private lands, regardless, that all went out the window some 50 years ago.

What is interesting is that per the CDC stats, Asian-Pacific Islander kids in the 10-14 group have a slightly higher rate of drownings than wypipo kids. Given that Pacific Islanders are practically born in the water (disregarding the CONUS Pacific Islanders), that would seem backwards, until you consider that they have a higher rate of exposure in waters that are inherently more dangerous than a pool, which goes to show that any randomly quoted "stat" (e.g., "10 times more likely") is usually meaningless without looking into other factors.

Steve E

Balloon pangolin!

a la Steve Martin..."Sure he's great, but can he make balloon animals?"

I guess the answer to that is yes, yes he can make balloon animals.

Jay

"And why non-wealthy persons of color should be given government money so they can quit their jobs for six months"

Since the trail is s fraught with danger, sending poor folks of color out on the trail is a form of racism, no?

Maybe she should have educated herself about outdoors first, before going on the trail. But it's the patriarchy fault that there are dangers in the wild

Jeff Bauer

The Two Rules of Racism

1) It's whitey's fault.

2( In the event it's not whitey's fault, refer to Rule #1.

Fred the Fourth

Fnord,
Is it art?
Having listened to a recent npr radio interview, I am in the happy position of being able to answer that question.
The interviewee, a museum person of some claimed note, stated that "it's in a museum so it's art."
No, really. Those were her words, and the interviewer did not disagree.
Who are we to disagree?

Oops. I just realized there's a loophole. She did not say "if and only if."
Darn.

Baceseras

hurtling down the path I predicted years ago 

In Saint Jack (1979, but set a decade or so earlier) one of the British ex-pats in a Singapore bar says, "When they made buggery legal I told the Lady Wife we'd better get out before they make it compulsory."

The character* was probably meant to be uncouth, but the audience's laughter had at that time, I thought, a distinct note of - what? - rueful recognition, grudging assent. Or ungrudging.

*I think it was Froggy, played by the indispensable James Villiers.

Baceseras

Oyster rights 

Notable graffito (from some cartoonist or other, nearly 50 years ago) :

Oysters on strike! Demand higher tides!

Daniel Ream

"When they made buggery legal I told the Lady Wife we'd better get out before they make it compulsory."

That's an old Bob Hope joke.

Baceseras

That's an old Bob Hope joke 

Jokes being jokes (and Hope being Hope) it's probably even older.

Paul Theroux was one of three who worked on the screenplay, based on his novel published in '73. Theroux was no gag-writer, but in his early fiction and travel writing he had a pretty good ear for the odd characteristic remark. The line might well have emerged from his reporter's notebook of the decade prior to 1973. When Hope dusted it off in 1975, it was topical again, this time in California.

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