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June 10, 2019

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Pogonip

On the other hand, the women had established a Human Resources department by the end of the first day.

Daniel Ream

the women had established a Human Resources department by the end of the first day

I used to work for a major multinational that was absolutely ruled by its all-female HR department. I never figured out why the all-male sr. management had allowed it to happen but it was like a sanitized version of Soviet political commissars.

A year before I left, the COO decided to outsource benefits administration - the bulk of what HR ostensibly did - to an employee self-service portal. Perhaps not coincidentally, this resulted in an utter savaging of the HR department down to 20% of its former size and the end of HR as a power bloc within the organization.

Pogonip

I’m so old I can remember being warned never to work for a company that called its Personnel department Human Resources.

It would still be good advice except, if followed, everyone but the self-employed would starve to death.

Jacob

Ms Lewis’ fantasies – of “comradeliness” and non-specific parenting - would seem to invite the same problems, among others.

She acts like she's never met any actual humans.

Ted S, Catskill Mtns, NY, USA

Meanwhile, in West Yorkshire, Miss Lewis finds an ally.

The account's tweets are now protected.

Why am I not surprised?

David

She acts like she’s never met any actual humans.

It’s a practised unrealism, pretty much a signature of Marxoid thinking, and for which she’s been rewarded. I suppose the appeal is that it’s much easier to “theorise” if you can merrily disregard things like basic economics, human nature, decades of real-world evidence to the contrary, and so forth.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

The account's tweets are now protected.

There is always a screenshot or something...

A quick google search reveals in a single day in America 11,000 babies are born but only 7,000 people die. Only a stupid person could not see where this is heading. We should be making it easier for unwanted pregnancies to be terminated. https://t.co/kvfTvs6jrE

— Lauren Ballinger (@ReporterLaurenB) June 11, 2019

Meanwhile, ladies, are you a HOP, use slave paint or oppression smear ? ShoeOnHead introduces us to a fetching young lady who can answer those questions and more for you. (Caution, Achtung, Опасность ! Major league language warning - also you can skip to about 3:30 to avoid pitch for sponsor after intro)

David

a fetching young lady

“Your hair… has weight. You’re literally physically less of a woman for shaving. Fuck all y’all.”

Deep, man.

Thon Brocket
Hold on there, buckaroo, a cover charge is one thing, but I think there is a term for charging for dates, last thing you want is the popo poking around - they might find an offensive tweet or something.

My lawyer advises that we should itemise it as "corkage".

David

My lawyer advises that we should itemise it as “corkage”.

Stain removal.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

Fully Automated Luxury Communism, what could possibly go wrong ?

The Morlocks were unavailable for comment.

pst314

Peace through submission.
That is their idea of peace.

Remember when all those Wise, Honest, and Benevolent Liberals™ were telling us that "Islam" means "peace" when in fact it means "submission"?

WTP

Remember when all those Wise...

Perhaps it's just me but more and more when I see the word "wise" when used in the context of not taking any action, I find that one could easily substitute the words "cowardly" or "lazy" and the sentence, especially when viewed from a larger time perspective, makes a lot more sense.

TomJ
Someone took a clump hammer to her hinge pins

This is my new favourite phrase for the subject.

She acts like she’s never met any actual humans.

It’s a practised unrealism, pretty much a signature of Marxoid thinking, and for which she’s been rewarded.

I am reminded, as I so often am, of one of my favourite passages of the late, lamented Sir Perry's writing:

And some had been idiots as mad as Swing, with a view of the world just as rigid and unreal, who were on the side of what they called 'the people'. Vimes had spent his life on the streets, and had met decent men and fools and people who'd steal a penny from a blind beggar and people who performed silent miracles or desperate crimes every day behind the grubby windows of little houses, but he'd never met The People.

People on the side of The People always ended up disappointed, in any case. They found that The People tended not to be grateful or appreciative or forward-thinking or obedient. The People tended to be small-minded and conservative and not very clever and were even distrustful of cleverness. And so the children of the revolution were faced with the age-old problem: it wasn't that you had the wrong kind of government, which was obvious, but that you had the wrong kind of people.

As soon as you saw people as things to be measured, they didn't measure up. What would run through the streets soon enough wouldn't be a revolution or a riot. It'd be people who were frightened and panicking. It was what happened when the machinery of city life faltered, the wheels stopped turning and all the little rules broke down. And when that happened, humans were worse than sheep. Sheep just ran; they didn't try to bite the sheep next to them.

Geo

Imagine she's in a black uniform talking about killing Jews, gypsies, and homosexuals because it's a German right to live in pure world.

pst314

Imagine she's in a black uniform talking about killing Jews, gypsies, and homosexuals because it's a German right to live in pure world.

There were a number of feminist utopia science fiction stories, back in the 70's, which involved the extermination of men. Those who pointed out that this reeked of Nazism were denounced by Moderate Reasonable Feminists™ as male chauvinists who wanted to Keep Women In Their Place.

Daniel Ream

the late, lamented Sir Perry's writing

Yes, well. Pratchett was an unapologetic statist; this is most obvious in the Lipwig books, every one of which is an apologia for state control of some large sector of society.

pst314

the Lipwig books, every one of which is an apologia for state control of some large sector of society.

I think you are overstating this: In Going Postal wasn't the Clacks Company returned to its original rightful owners rather than being taken over by the State?

Daniel Ream

wasn't the Clacks Company returned to its original rightful owners rather than being taken over by the State

That's not my recollection; what I do recall was the clear moral tone that the Clacks being under the control of private enterprise was Bad, whereas the nationalized postal service was Good, as demonstrated by the fact that the postal service essentially puts the Clacks out of business and then ultimately takes them over. Unless you want to argue that the only place a government-run physical mail delivery service beats out the Internet is in comedic fantasy is the point, I suppose.

Making Money is a completely unvarnished apologetic for fiat currency over the gold standard. Pratchett's not even trying to hide it.

(Disclaimer: I've never found Pratchett that entertaining. I like Lipwig as a character, but Pratchett's smug pedantry pervades the series.)

Pst314

“the clear moral tone that the Clacks being under the control of private enterprise was Bad”

As personified/represented by villain Reacher Gilt. But the original owners/creators were portrayed as ethical and idealistic of Gilt’s swindle.

Pst314

If the Clacks system

Ted S, Catskill Mtns, NY, USA

a fetching young lady

So you throw a ball and she brings it back?

Farnsworth M Muldoon

So you throw a ball and she brings it back?

Not that well trained, chasing cars, OTOH...

Watcher In The Dark

Feminists, to the sewers!

I'm all for equality and parity. I believe the vast majority of sewer workers (you know, the ones who keep the turds floating free) are disgustingly male. This of course is an outrage; women are ready to take their place in equal numbers to wade through poo and make our toileting experiences equal.

Watcher In The Dark

David wrote: "sending wildly irrelevant crap to a presumably extensive list of people, about whom they clearly know nothing whatsoever."

I routinely get e-mail 'news' from a theatre (make that theater) in Toronto telling me of their great productions in the coming months. I emailed their people to say, thanks, but no thanks: I live several thousand miles away and though it is 23 years since I went to Toronto I have no plans to go back. This didn't work as I kept getting more of these less-than-useful emails. So I asked them how they got my e-mail address.

They said it was 'intercepted' in transit between me and another person by what they claim is a legal system and thus have my address, which apparently they are unwilling to relinquish. And still I get informed of shows and plays I will never see.

I can only presume the senders of these emails are paid by the quantity so me getting an email from them means another few cents in their coffers. I suppose I am glad to help oil the wheels of Canadian commerce and keep businesses alive and kicking, but I wish they wouldn't.

David

And still I get informed of shows and plays I will never see.

The ones from supposedly reputable organisations but which don’t include an automatic ‘unsubscribe’ option annoy me to an almost irrational degree. I find them… offensive.

It’s rather like how online advertising is generally much more annoying and resented than, say, print ads or TV ads. Auto-play videos and interstitial pop-ups that interrupt your reading being obvious examples. The fact that it’s happening on your computer amplifies the irritation quite a lot. It feels more intrusive.

TomJ

This page from The Truth always resonated and rather contraindicates to much of a statist attitude:

”I'm sure we can pull together, sir." Lord Vetinari raised his eyebrows. "Oh, I do hope not, I really do hope not. Pulling together is the aim of despotism and tyranny. Free men pull in all kinds of directions"' He smiled. "It's the only way to make progress."

Pratchett's writing is far too humane to be pigeonholed as statist. And I think he had a better understanding of micro-reflected-sounds-of-underground-spirits[1] to believe in directed economies in the way you're trying to characterise Going Postal (which, after all, starts with a public service so inefficient as to be irrelevant); just look at how Reg Shoe is portrayed in the build up to the Battle of Treacle Mine Road, as extremely quoted here.

[1] Now there's a reference for long-time Pratchett fans.

pst314

"If the Clacks system"

Not sure what went wrong. I meant to write:
If the Clacks system was not returned to its original owners but was permanently seized by the government then I'd love to know, ideally with a cite.

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