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July 28, 2019

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Nikw211

The comments from user "Jeremy Farage" and, somewhat surprisingly to me, MP for Walthamstow Stella Creasy, which run underneath shed an interesting light on what is quite possibly a far more significant issue.

David

a far more significant issue.

Care to elaborate?

Joan

We're living in a Monty Python sketch.

Charlie Suet

“The real bigotry is drawing attention to the issue” - a British MP.

David

“The real bigotry is drawing attention to the issue” - a British MP.

Ah. Yes. Well, if you endorse a social model that’s riddled with contradictions that are both glaring and inevitable, and sell it as an ideal, and stake your claims of piety on it, then I’d imagine it chafes when the people subject to that social model dare to point them out. And so we must learn not to notice. And then everything will be fine.

Liz

where “London’s first rainbow bus shelter” is doubtless an object of pilgrimage

LOL

Farnsworth M Muldoon
Visit the rainbow crossing on Hoe Street or London's first rainbow bus shelter in Leyton Mills. Pride in the Borough celebrates LGBTQ+ diversity and significant moments and events throughout the year...Funded projects explore a range of topics including Polish jazz, refugee and asylum seeker communities, black heritage and more.

Hoe Street. OK, they were either just trolling with that or the corner of Hooker Lane and Byotch Avenue was taken. Regardless, I am failing to see what Polish jazz* and black heritage have to do with Pride (and why the hell is pride capitalized), and I am guessing they need more funding for that refugee thing as the funded project doesn't seem to be working.

*(Polish jazz=classical music ?)

David

LOL

If you’re in the right mood, or possibly drunk, it can be quite entertaining to trudge through the borough’s endless “diversity” boilerplate, with its air of self-satisfied obliviousness, and in which the phrase “same-sex traffic lights” is uttered without irony, and boasted of, as if this were a pivotal event in human history.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

...the phrase “same-sex traffic lights” is uttered without irony, and boasted of, as if this were a pivotal event in human history.

Come on now, you are selling these people short, it is not just traffic lights, it is the all important and totally novel rainbow taxi, bus, and light railroad as well.

If it weren't for those, no one in London would ever have known there are LBRSVPЖЮ↔ people and would continue to discriminate and commit hate crimes against them.

David

It’s that realisation that the churners of said boilerplate seem to have no inkling that the prospect of a gay bus shelter, or gay traffic lights, or a gay road crossing, may strike many gay people, perhaps even a majority, as faintly condescending and absurd. And that boasts of “we’re doing all this for you with taxpayers’ money” are not necessarily welcome. In other words, some of us don’t walk about imagining ourselves as oppressed or marginalised and in need of affirmation, via bus shelters, in the name of “diversity.”

The Sage

@arnsworth M Muldoon
Clearly, "Pride" is capitalised to emphasise that it is the mortal sin that is being spoken of. It's not even as much fun as a Gluttony event would be, nor as widely appealing for the non-PGLTBBQ majority.

Pogonip

“If you’re in the right mood, or possibly drunk...”

David, I knew this stuff would drive you to drink sooner or later. I’ll open a can of dehydrated water and make you some coffee.

Excepto Patronus! *poof*. You’re some coffee ☕️.

Feel better now?

Charlie Suet

I guess there’s a reasonable point to be made that some people only seem to care about homophobia when it comes from Muslims, just as some people only care about human rights abuses when they’re perpetrated by the IDF. Doesn’t vitiate the fact that intersectionality is unworkable nonsense though.

boo

I miss the days when a rainbow was just a rainbow.

WTP

OK (God help me), I just had to look up "same sex traffic lights" and while I do have a vague memory of seeing such before, I thought it was a joke. Yet, what's the point? Do people have to cross your streets in pairs now? At what point will zebra crossings be renamed Equini crossings? How about we cut to the chase and start calling all things "that" and "it" so as to be most wokest inclusivist godlike.

Oh, and living in a Monty Python skit is my line. I've moved on from The Truman Show.

pst314

"same sex traffic lights"

Among the additional costs, in order to retrofit them to conventional traffic control systems you need gender changer connectors. :-|

Steve E

I thought leftist politicians had established that it was "racist" to tell people "to go back where they came from." And yet we have Labour MP Creasy telling people in that twitter thread "to just go away."

It's tiresome trying to keep up. I guess it's my fault for expecting consistency.

David

Ooh, developments.

Please have your hate crime calculators at the ready. There may be long division.

Pogonip

Is your government aware that 1984 was not a how-to manual?

Pogonip

Now that I think of it, the obvious—indeed, the only possible—response to their predicament, to obtain a gun and ammo, carry same at all times, and go down fighting when the thought police finally show up, never occurs to Julia. Him being a genius, I know Orwell did this deliberately, but I was never sure if his intention was to show the Party had more control over Julia’s mind than she realized, or something else that I was too dumb to pick up on. So much of 1984 is hints and shadows.

Darleen

Diversity v Cultural Appropriation ... the sequel to the hoop-earrings kerfuffle.

David

the hoop-earrings kerfuffle

For those who missed it.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

... the sequel to the hoop-earrings kerfuffle.

I'll see your night cap, and raise you a foreign language.

Adam

I will bet that bonnets have been around since the first intersection of wind, long hair, and femininity. It’s like wondering who invented the hat.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

I will bet that bonnets have been around since the first intersection of wind, long hair, and femininity.

Nonsense, the 14th century Italians, for instance, appropriated them from African-Italians.

Ten

...if you endorse a social model that’s riddled with contradictions that are both glaring and inevitable, and sell it as an ideal, and stake your claims of piety on it, then I’d imagine it chafes when the people subject to that social model dare to point them out.

A thousand years of civilization regarded a nice list of mind-your-own-f*cking-business rules as key to society and civility. Not only did they have function, they showed maturity. Class even. Unquestioned order. The whole spectrum from getting along to loving your neighbor. Adult stuff.

On the other hand these proggo-puritanical pieties are cancer, but notice the deference they're given, they and their carriers. They're de facto; status quo. Shield one another from them on the street. Run.

The tawdry and cheap and egomaniacal and weak are over-running the place. Normal and civil and respectful went from common to scarce as hen's teeth in 20 years.

When the preposterous Maureen Dowd notices, it's bad:

I’ve got some bad news for you about 2020. The progressives are the modern Puritans. The Massachusetts Bay Colony is alive and well on the Potomac and Twitter. They eviscerate their natural allies for not being pure enough...

[Honking snipped.] So even if the old gal is clanking around her lighthouse behind the sputtering tin lamp of leftist insight - in those dingy cozette slides her last date left behind - it's so obvious she sees it, or some of it.

Ten

Wesley Yang notices too, this time the sheer irrationality of the psycho left's inversion of physical reality:

The audacity is so great that all instantly defer to it; no one who does not possess overmastering power could possibly conceive of so brazen an assault on the plain meaning of words.

All find ways to accommodate themselves to it; contort themselves to put themselves into alignment with it or to avoid confrontation with it.

https://twitter.com/wesyang/status/1155317848547500033

Pogonip

Oh, for Heaven’s sake. Those bonnets, usually made of cheap nylon or polyester satin rather than expensive silk, were used by white women for decades, until curlers and the ‘do’s they produced went out of style. My mom, born in 1929, had 3 or 4 of them.

MC

Pride in the Borough celebrates LGBTQ+ diversity and significant moments and events throughout the year..

I have no objection to gays and the various loonies they have misguidedly aligned themselves with organising 'significant moments' and events, but I fail to see why such things must be funded out of the taxpayer's hard-earned.

Darleen

until curlers and the ‘do’s they produced went out of style

That and the appearance of the home hair dryer in the 1960s then the ubiquitous blow dryer in the 1970s.

As a child, I hated having to sleep in those pink plastic curlers (held in place with a net wrap). Bless the inventor of home dryers.

Marc

The bus shelter was paid for by the Make It Happen Fellowship Fund which is a big pot of money in a room which groups needing funding dip in and take as much as they need To Make It Happen and it miraculously fills back up again it is amazing it really is.

Sam

Wait, bonnets are outre now? Does this mean the abomination that is the Handmaid's Tale must now self-immolate and I don't have to see that pouty wench's histrionic visage every time I fire up Hulu?

This calls for a morning beer!

Paul Nottingham

"Martyn Loukes BEM, founder of Pride in the Borough is known for his LGBT diversity work in London and has previously created a rainbow bus, taxi and DLR train. He also led the way for the installation of the same-sex traffic lights in Trafalgar Square and created London’s first rainbow crossing.

Speaking about the project Martyn Loukes said ‘I’m delighted in being able to continue the work I started at TfL in 2014 and bringing something outside of central London to the Borough I live in. The diverse population of Waltham Forest means that it’s sometimes harder to be yourself if you identify as LGBT. This installation is ongoing confirmation that same-sex lifestyles and gender identity matter and are a part of every community. I’m so thankful for the support I have been given by Waltham Forest.’"

It's just a crazy idea but why doesn't he actually get some work done in return for his extortionate salary?

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"The diverse population of Waltham Forest means that it's sometimes harder to be yourself if you identify as LGBT"

WRONGTHINK ALERT!

Hal

The diverse population of Waltham Forest means that it’s sometimes harder to be yourself if you identify as LGBT.

. . . . . . . Um, is he trying to state that he can't get a date??


----Overheard at a store:

Customer: Do you have a cheap single lighter I can buy?

Clerk: Well, do you really want to buy a lighter for a cheap single?

Charles Calthrop

One of the well-known Artificial Intelligence thought experiments is the idea that an AI optimised for one thing (say, making paperclips) could end up destroying humanity. If it optimises for that, and only that, then it could divert ever-increasing resources to the task, and oppose our attempts to turn it off. Ultimately, it could turn the Earth and the solar system into a giant paper-clip factory, and so on.

https://wiki.lesswrong.com/wiki/Paperclip_maximizer

It strikes me that “equality” is the social equivalent of AI’s paperclip maximiser. Since at least the 60s, there has been a push to optimise for equal outcomes at the expense of absolutely everything else. Any attempt to push back is simply taken as evidence that yet more equality is required. Since society has in fact become more equal, increasingly fringe cases are relied upon to sustain the hysteria, as regularly documented on this blog.

Fay

...As a child, I hated having to sleep in those pink plastic curlers (held in place with a net wrap).

Me too! Which is why I purchased these with one of my first pay packets.

David

It strikes me that “equality” is the social equivalent of AI’s paperclip maximiser.

Heh. Something along those lines, yes. It has a similar dementedness.

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