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August 10, 2019

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Farnsworth M Muldoon

Aside from apparently not knowing that the US&A didn't invent slavery and that it still goes on today but not in the US&A, he seems a little short on knowledge of current events.

miller lowlife
@astacusmarinus
Aug 5

Replying to @adamkotsko
White people are desperately afraid that if they were to become a minority, they would be treated in the way they chose to treat others.

        Adam Kotsko
        @adamkotsko
        Aug 5

        The thing is, there is literally no evidence of that.

Meanwhile, Now is the time in South Africa we dance, but what do I know I am not one of 12 "professors" at one of the worst colleges in the US.

David

Somewhat related:

Immigration may be the most difficult of these issues because it is also an argument over whether or not one side of the debate should be authorised to bring in political reinforcements, in the form of the immigrants themselves. We can now see that those who desire more open borders enjoy an intellectual advantage, too: the ability to block discussion. For, once migration is considered a non-negotiable right, what end can it serve to start talking about costs and benefits, or simple facts?

Also, “Narratives of Europe’s enrichment by migration are post facto rationalisations for something that Europe is undergoing, not choosing.”

Revelation

I'll put a fiver on Adam Kotsko being Jewish.

For some Jews, "never again" means no more white nations.

Revelation

Oh, and one other fact that has been "memory holed"

The majority of Slave traders in the US were Jews.

ComputerLabRat

It boggles the mind that the lefties or enviro-lefties who spout such things as "given" or "fact" get all angry when someone suggests they take their own advice. I had a co-worker once who was convinced humans were ruining the earth, and we needed less humans. So I said - well, you first. For the Earth! He was not amused. Luckily for me he was not a member of a protected class who could go to HR and get me fired for offending him.

Darleen

Totally OT but the day after the document drop on Jeffrey Epstein, he allegedly commits suicide.

It may be black humor that Epstein's "suicide" has been predicted for awhile because of the Clinton connection, but I'm not laughing right now.

Pst314

“The majority of Slave traders in the US were Jews.”

[citation needed]

David

The majority of Slave traders in the US were Jews.

I claim no expertise, but five minutes of Googling suggests that isn’t actually true.

sH2

Also needless to say, our educator chappie has form.

Honk honk!

Farnsworth M Muldoon

I’m guessing Dr Kotsko doesn’t live in a neighbourhood rapidly being enlivened with Congolese and Somali borra gangs...

Faber Shimer College, where this guy teaches (ahem) bounced around the northern 'burbs of Chicago before landing in Napierville from when it decamped to the campus of Illinois Institute of Technology (on two floors of one building - seriously) in Bronzeville, on Chicago's south side, in 2017, so your guess is probably safe, and that he commutes. Of course with the cultural enhancement in Germany, being near a commuter train is problematic these days, so there is that.

David

Honk honk!

If, at short notice, I had to find someone with pernicious, indeed lunatic, opinions concerning what they’d like to see happen to white people, and to white men in particular, the first place I’d look is the nearest Clown Quarter of academia.

You know, where other people’s children are taught what to think.

jabrwok

A definition of "racist" would be helpful, but that might derail the narrative. Also an explanation why racism, however defined, is intrinsically bad.

Birds of a feather flock together. People tend to prefer the company of people with whom they have a lot in common. Preferring the company of one's own genetic/ethnic group is not bad. Hating others because of *their* genetic/ethnic categories is bad, but preferring one doesn't require hating the other.

Looking at the origins of the new demographics, and comparing the conditions there to the conditions of one's own society prior to the demographic changes and coming to the conclusion that one prefers one to the other is, likewise, not bad.

And if that be racist, then sign me up. I'd rather not see the U.S. (or Europe) turn into South Africa, Zimbabwe, Mexico del Norte, or the Dar al Eurabia.

Darleen

[citation needed]

I wandered over to wiki to see what it said about slave trade in the USA (no I don't use it for citing per se but the footnotes usually have links to other sources)

What I found curious was this phrase

The white supremacist Virginian Thomas Roderick Dew wrote in 1832 that Virginia was a "negro-raising state"; i.e. Virginia "produced" slaves.

That 2019 'woke' phrase is just weirdly out-of-place. Regardless of whether or not Mr. Dew actually believed the "white race" was superior or not, this is a political label. And unless I've missed it, the race supremacy assertion isn't used in examination of the eons-long, world-wide history of slavery.

Darleen

I claim no expertise, but five minutes of Googling suggests that isn’t actually true.

Add to that is Jews are under strict Biblical rules for slaves, not the least of which is that any slave MUST be released at the end of 7 years and any remaining debt for which he was enslaved must be canceled.

Charlie Suet

I’m not really bothered by the racial impact of mass immigration. I don’t give a damn about miscegenation or birth rates or any of that rubbish. What offends is the cultural assumptions its white left wing advocates try to push.

Cuisine often represents a sort of synecdoche for what the left appears to believe in general. What came before in the past was monotonous and boring where it wasn’t identifiably objectionable. There’s less and less understanding that immigrants at their best enhance what was already pretty good. The sense increasingly is that Western countries were actively at fault for being majority white and people on the right side of history are rectifying that.

It’s very hard to know what one should expect of immigrants in terms of integration. I myself despise association football, the BBC and the NHS, which plenty of people would regard as touchstones of being British. When I see a non-white face pleased to see England win at rugby or cricket I’m always delighted, but I’d never want to enforce the Tebbit test.

Richard

The school where our genius teaches is in Naperville, IL. For all the information you ever wanted to know about Naperville, go here: http://www.city-data.com/city/Naperville-Illinois.html

re: comments above, the predominant religion in Naperville is Catholic. The great majority of single-family homes cost between $400k and $750k. A quick look suggests that Naperville is an upscale predominantly white community with low crime and poverty rates and a fairly fixed demographic.

City-data has lists! Naperville is on these lists.

#7 on the list of "Top 101 cities with the largest racial income disparity between any two races with at least 2,000 householders"
#8 on the list of "Top 101 cities with the least people below 50% of the poverty level (population 50,000+)"
#9 on the list of "Top 101 cities with the lowest percentage of single-parent households, population 50,000+"
#11 on the list of "Top 101 cities with the lowest number of auto thefts per 100,000 residents (population 50,000+)" #11 on the list of "Top 100 cities with biggest houses (pop. 50,000+)"
#12 on the list of "Top 101 cities with the lowest number of burglaries per 100,000 residents (population 50,000+)"
#18 on the list of "Top 100 safest cities (lowest city-data.com crime index) (pop. 50,000+)"
#20 on the list of "Top 101 cities with the lowest city-data.com crime index (population 50,000+)"
#21 on the list of "Top 100 cities with highest median household income (pop. 50,000+)"
#24 on the list of "Top 101 cities with the least people below the poverty level (population 50,000+)"

Smallish Bees

Here is his blog post from four years ago on this subject, in its entirety.

https://itself.blog/2015/06/30/should-white-american-commit-mass-suicide-if-not-why-not/

No, I don’t think all whites should commit mass suicide. But you probably knew that.

Adam Kotsko
4 years ago

Today I found myself swirling around in the right-wing toilet of the Internet yet again. Last time, the whole controversy centered around tweets that I quickly realized were based on a profound misunderstanding of the situation and just as quickly deleted — but the fact that they were “hidden” seemed to make them all the more tantalizing and revealing in the eyes of the people who screencapped and published them, resulting in a week of constant online harrassment and some unfavorable Google search results. This time, the crack investigative reporters of the right have uncovered an even more damning quote from me, calling for all whites to commit mass suicide out of guilt for slavery! Can you believe anyone would hold such a view?!

If you’re a reasonable person, the answer is no. In reality, I do not hold that view, nor does anyone else in the entire damn world. Why did I say it, then? I was in dialogue with an obviously bad-faith interlocutor on the subject of race, who clearly wanted to bait me into saying something “offensive,” and out of frustration, I decided I’d give them something to cry about and say something really “offensive” — scare quotes intended. My assumption was that the claim was so obviously hyperbolic that the sarcasm would be immediately evident.

Apparently not, though. Apparently there is a critical mass of delusional and paranoid people on the internet who are willing and eager to (a) believe the absolute worst of a total stranger, (b) track that person down, and (c) direct insulting messages toward them. This time, I seem to have hit on the deeper dregs of the #Gamergate crowd, which has now decided that ethics in gaming journalism consists in openly embracing white supremacy and castigating “beta” men for their lack of manliness. Indeed, I learned today that in such circles, there is a well-known insult (“cuck”) that refers to white “beta” men who are so self-loathing — presumably their wimpiness made them especially susceptible to the siren call of the White Privilege Movement, another thing of whose existence I just learned today — that they solicit members of ethnic minorities to cuckold them as they watch. I’ll simply remark that it’s weird that that scenario comes so readily to mind for our “alpha” males.

This has also been an opportunity to learn a lot of racist talking points. Apparently Africans are also complicit with slavery, because the African slaves were sold by other Africans. The Irish, meanwhile, are immune to any complicity with slavery due to white privilege, because the Irish themselves were once enslaved. The same goes for anyone with Slavic ancestry, as an etymological dictionary will reveal. And of course, there’s always everyone’s favorite: Other Cultures Had Slavery Too. And We Abolished It. Boy, do I feel pwned, bro.

Last time I found the whole thing upsetting, but this time it’s more hilarious to me. Aside from the fact that so many people can’t detect the most obvious sarcasm in the history of sarcasm, I find it amazingly hilarious that their damning evidence of me going so far as to “defend” my views was to quote someone responding “no” and me responding “yes.” It’s also becoming more evident to me, this second time through the wringer, that there are people who desperately need someone to actually state the exaggerated liberal views they fear — indeed, that they get off on performing their indignation and outrage. They’ve invested so much libidinal energy in their opposition to views that no one actually has held or would ever hold, and the occasion to release it no doubt comes as a great relief.

As before, people have been e-mailing Shimer trying to get me fired (and also responding to Shimer’s Twitter, surely the greatest power center in any school). I informed the president and communication head of the situation, and they of course support me completely. Shortly after that exchange, I got an e-mail from development soliciting some last donations before the close of our fiscal year — and I got an idea. I tweeted the link, claiming that it was to a Kickstarter to get me fired from Shimer. And at least one person retweeted with a note about how we have to get this idiot fired. I’m well aware that I may be falling victim to my own critique here and not recognizing obvious sarcasm — but I think I’ve earned it.

Categories: politics of the absurd

H

This has also been an opportunity to learn a lot of racist talking points.

Lefties project.

David

Can you believe anyone would hold such a view?!

Dr Kotsko’s claim of ‘Hey, just kidding!’ might seem less squirmy and disingenuous if many of his peers weren’t basing their status and careers on framing “whiteness” as a pathology, something to correct and atone for, and attempting to inculcate pretentious racial guilt among pale-skinned students. It might also seem less squirmy and disingenuous if much of the left-leaning media, from Salon to the New York Times, weren’t all but fixated with framing “whiteness” and “white people” as inherently oppressive and dysfunctional, with articles claiming the US will be “saved” by being “less white,” with white people reduced to a fringe minority - and claiming that “white men must be stopped” because “the very future of mankind depends on it” - deemed worthy of mainstream publication.

And it might seem less squirmy and disingenuous if Dr Kotsko hadn’t himself spent quite a bit of time framing “whiteness” as a defect, a lamentable pathology, one with “a stranglehold on power,” and which “exists solely to legitimate the subordination and exploitation of other races.”

David

Not entirely unrelated:

If immigrants were crossing our southern border in significant numbers for the purpose of becoming Republican voters, the wall would have been built ten years ago, it would run from La Jolla to Corpus Christi, it would be fifty feet high, deep, and thick at all points, and it would have a million volts running through it.

Franklin Einspruch, here.

Ten

Apparently Kotsko is convinced that all peoples are so innocuously uniform and interchangeable that he's outraged when very evidently they're not. Whitey.

"Celebrate diversity" is so Nineties.

Ten

Jews are under strict Biblical rules

As in Old Testament law post-70 AD or thereabouts? I wasn't aware of that.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

Jews are under strict Biblical rules

Orthodox, Reform, Reconstructonist, or Conservative ?

Charlie Suet

And of course, there’s always everyone’s favorite: Other Cultures Had Slavery Too. And We Abolished It. Boy, do I feel pwned, bro.

A glib recitation of an argument is not a refutation of it. Neither is heavy handed sarcasm.

Ten

there’s always everyone’s favorite: Other Cultures Had Slavery Too.

It stands to reason that in the postmodern moral wasteland where every sin is normalized and racism! is up-leveled to exclusive top god status*, slavery becomes the ultimate bellwether. Given that everybody did it? Mumble mumble argle bargle.

*with a chaser of clinical projection. You evil bastards, although I can't exactly say why. Mumble mumble argle bargle.

Steve E

Kotsko

What is an eastern european warehouse store, Alex?

Darleen

As in Old Testament law post-70 AD or thereabouts? I wasn't aware of that.

At the end of every seven years you must cancel debts. Deuteronomy 15:1

This is the manner of remission: Every creditor shall cancel what he has loaned his neighbor. He is not to collect anything from his neighbor or brother, because the LORD's time of release has been proclaimed. Deuteronomy 15:2

pst314

I claim no expertise, but five minutes of Googling suggests that isn’t actually true.

I hope our Jew-hating commenter is not a harbinger of things to come: Instapundit has linked now and then to posts on this blog, and the Instapundit comment threads are now sometimes polluted with racist and antisemitic comments.

Ten

Deuteronomy

Which doesn't answer the post-Christ question but that's okay.

racist and antisemitic comments

And the right becomes the left.

Pogonip

What say your grandparents and great-grandparents about this, Brits?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1229643/This-isnt-Britain-fought-say-unknown-warriors-WWII.html

Jay  Guevara

Jews are under strict Biblical rules

Apparently Epstein and Soros did not get the memo.

Per Hugh Thomas's book "The Slave Trade," much of the slave trade (at least initially) was financed by conversos.

Jeff Guinn

Annndddd Steve E causes me to ruin yet another keyboard.

David

Looking at the origins of the new demographics, and comparing the conditions there to the conditions of one’s own society prior to the demographic changes and coming to the conclusion that one prefers one to the other is, likewise, not bad.

Dr Kotsko’s line of thinking also strikes me as parochial, in that he seems to imagine that the people who have reservations about rapid demographic change must invariably be white and therefore, by his reckoning, racist. As if people who live in the US or the UK and whose families originated in, say, India, China or Nigeria couldn’t possibly have concerns about their neighbourhoods being transformed by immigration and a failure (or refusal) to assimilate.

A few years ago, I overheard a lively discussion, in an old-fashioned barber shop, in which a black customer and the Indian owner of a chip shop were voicing precisely these concerns, and in particular the need for assimilation, which rather underlines the importance of behaviour and cultural common ground over skin colour.

But in order to badmouth whitey and thereby posture to his peers, our educator seems happy to, as they say, erase any members of a racial minority whose views diverge from his own.

Jonathan

He should go and tell the Dalai Lama that he and the Tibetan people are just being racist when they object to their ethnic replacement by the Chinese.

St. Rev

Long-time fan, first-time commenter (though I think one of my tweets got linked here once).

Adam Kotsko is a (very odd and obnoxious) Christian theologian. I don't want to hit the spamfilter so I won't link, but it's easy to verify via websearch.

Ted S, Catskill Mtns, NY, USA

or just shitting on your doorstep, as happens in some of the more vibrant areas.

Unless the person it happens to is black, in which case white lefties will be falling all over themselves to call it a hate crime.

David

Long-time fan, first-time commenter

I do like it when lurkers de-lurk. Help yourself to bar snacks.

What?

Ted S., Catskill Mtns., NY, USA

Dr Kotsko’s line of thinking also strikes me as parochial, in that he seems to imagine that the people who have reservations about rapid demographic change must invariably be white and therefore, by his reckoning, racist. As if people who live in the US or the UK and whose families originated in, say, India, China or Nigeria couldn’t possibly have concerns about their neighbourhoods being transformed by immigration and a failure (or refusal) to assimilate.

Well, there are any number of white lefties who complain about gentrification, aren't there?

Sue Sims

I'll put a fiver on Adam Kotsko being Jewish.

You owe me a fiver, Anti-Semite-who-posts-as-Revelation.

I'll have a fiver's worth of the pickled eggs, David.

fnord

My first thought gazing upon the visage of Adam Kostko: 'smug little git'.

In this case either physiognomy is destiny or inner reality molds outward apperance. In eiter case prudence requires that he be chastised with sticks, repeatedly.

fnord

I'll have a fiver's worth of the pickled eggs, David.

*shudder*
More courage than sense.

David

I’ll have a fiver’s worth of the pickled eggs, David.

You could take down a carjacker with a couple of these.

Pogonip

David, the hump fat tastes funny. Are you thinning it with the dehydrated water again?

Darleen

Dr Kotsko’s line of thinking also strikes me as parochial, in that he seems to imagine that the people who have reservations about rapid demographic change must invariably be white and therefore, by his reckoning, racist.

I wonder if the good professor has any idea of the word "gentrification" and the lengths some neighborhoods *of color* will go to in order to keep their decrepit, dangerous, depressed cultural(sic) centers?

sH2

"Dying of whiteness"

https://twitter.com/OrwellNGoode/status/1160600655687487489

Honk.

Burnsie

I am not one of 12 "professors" at one of the worst colleges in the US.

The article you linked does indeed anoint Shimer College as the #1 worst college in America, not merely one of the worst.

It is the worst of the worst. The most visible canker sore of many, in all of American upper education. The last place any sane parent would send their child to.

There can only be one worst college, and that is Shimer.

So back to Kotsko's incandescently idiotic pronouncement: he has Shimer's wretched reputation to uphold, and he has done so with flying colors.

Runcie Balspune

The problem with people like Kotsko is they don't understand that whilst it is nice to offer your neighbour a place to stay if their house burnt down, you might hesitate if you knew they were the arsonist.

David

Re Dr Kotsko and his urge to call people racist, this came to mind.

Darleen

Oh my, the Ministry of Truth has struck again.

Steve E

the Ministry of Truth has struck again.

Speaking of the "lovely" Jessica Yaniv, here's our intrepid defender of the rights of the shaggy-balled, making her way through the city on her, wait for it...

Mobility scooter! Because, you know, being a male to female transexual who has been refused a good ball waxing doesn't get you quite where you want to be in the privilege olympics.

Steve E

Paint that thing a different colour and you just might have a clown car.

jabrwok

Mobility scooter!

He appears to be man-spreading.

pst314

So "Jessica" Yaniv is now "trans disabled"?

Farnsworth M Muldoon

So "Jessica" Yaniv is now "trans disabled"?

This was visited here recently but I can't find the link right offhand, which is embarrassing because I posted it, but in Orwellian fashion people who either want to be disabled, pretend to be disabled, or deliberately maim themselves are not "transdisabled", but "transabled".

People who look askance at them, or suggest they seek help, to include the genuinely disabled, are, of course, bad, bad people.

Regardless, Yaniv appears to up to his antics as usual claiming he was denied french fries for being "trans". A casual observer might make the mistake that this chap has some problem with Indians as well seeing as how, IIRC, that is who refused to wax his 'nads.

pst314

This was visited here recently but I can't find the link right offhand, which is embarrassing because I posted it

I saved the link as being particularly noteworthy:
https://davidthompson.typepad.com/davidthompson/2019/07/elsewhere-294.html?cid=6a00d83451675669e20240a4718928200c#comment-6a00d83451675669e20240a4718928200c

not "transdisabled", but "transabled".

I was being deliberately disrespectful of those who foist the term upon us, just as I put "Jessica" in quotes.

Jay

I'm guessing that any reference to the name Ruby Begonia will short circuit the system.

Joe Ego

On one level, it is nice to see Yaniv forced to accuse various Indian, Filipino, and other immigrants of discrimination. Everybody knows he's a malicious grifter, but he isn't granted the social acceptance of accusing a straight white man or woman.

It is so much easier to publicly ridicule him as the entitled, degenerate pedophile he shows himself to be when the media isn't cheering him on from the front page as some sort of warrior against oppression of lunatics.

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