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August 15, 2019

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Hal

. . . vim > emacs. . .

Oh, and I have seen emacs in passing, from what I have read, I'll grant that apparently it is indeed a rather interesting operating system, where if it only had a text editor as well, one wouldn't be using vi for assorted file editing . . . .

Darleen

Courier and other monospace type were a necessity for typewriters and early computer printers

I hated the IBM executive typewriter, electric monstrosity with an oversize carriage which meant it tried to jump off the desk each time I hit the return key. It had proportional type ... made a beautiful typed letter look like it came from a printer. But hell for any secretary who might make even one typo.

Hal

Can we run this thread past 300 comments before David posts another blog entry?

Oh.

Here y'are.

Fred the Fourth

My pests are Western Yellowjackets, often called "meat bees" because they are seriously addicted to barbecue chicken.
But if course we also have mud wasps, which are a pain because they like to nest in all my outdoor stuff with delicate bearings, which do not function well with wasp nest silt in them.

Hal

Also, all curly brackets go on their own line, dammit.

Also, all curly brackets go on their own line, dammit.

I'm too busy scanning for

{

followed by

}

where I just don't feel like having to look at the back end of some function call or so and think I'm seeing a semicolon that isn't supposed to be there.

Hal

Though the geek in me says spaces over tabs...

Nope, tabs move a measured distance.

Nope, tabs move a measured distance.

Tabs are 8 characters, and thus indentations are also 8 characters. There are heretic movements that try to make indentations 4 (or even 2!) characters deep, and that is akin to trying to define the value of PI to be 3.

Rationale: The whole idea behind indentation is to clearly define where a block of control starts and ends. Especially when you've been looking at your screen for 20 straight hours, you'll find it a lot easier to see how the indentation works if you have large indentations.

Now, some people will claim that having 8-character indentations makes the code move too far to the right, and makes it hard to read on a 80-character terminal screen. The answer to that is that if you need more than 3 levels of indentation, you're screwed anyway, and should fix your program.

In short, 8-char indents make things easier to read, and have the added benefit of warning you when you're nesting your functions too deep. Heed that warning.

---Linus Torvalds

Hal

And while we're at it -- is Shakespeare no longer taught in San Francisco's schools? How is it that these nincompoops don't understand that changing the label on the jar does not change its contents:

"Someone get this bloke a six foot two 'b four!"

. . . . let me share my deep, deep disappointment that the Board of Supervisors did not suggest "People of Conviction" as their alternative label.

In SF, one of the aspects of the 1989 Loma Prieta earthquake was the assorted damage to the Marina district. Some number of days after the earthquake, one of the local papers reported the suggestion that assorted people shouldn't be considered "earthquake victims", but instead they should be called "people living with earthquake".

Hal

Here's my contribution for most groanworthy pun of the day.

Does the name Pavlov ring a bell?

Going the speed of light is bad for your age

Occam was a comparison shopper.

Kleln bottle for rent-Inquire within.

Van Allen wears suspenders.

Polymer physicists are into chains.

Vitamin C deficiency is apauling.

Alvin Toffler will be electrocuted tomorrow.

Entropy isn't what it used to be.

Mobius strippers never show you their back side.

Wernher von Braun settled for a V-2 when he coulda had a V-8.

I support Little League Rollerball


Hal

if they were there just for decoration, you should have said so.

My dear late grandmother’s antique vases!

Dr Frederick Chilton was the director of the Baltimore State hospital for the Criminally Insane who went missing while on vacation after Dr Lecter's escape.

. . . . .

“That bug belonged to the late Dr Chilton."

"Late? How do you know he's the late Dr Chilton?"

"Well, he's seven years late anyway," Barney said. "I'm not expecting him anytime soon.

---Thomas Harris, Hannibal

Hal

Problem is, unless you can hit the nest mouth itself, directly, there's not much long-term effect. The underground nest might be 1-2 FEET across and contain 1-20 queens and 2000-10000 stinging (female, natch) workers.

Hmmm. Have you considered molten aluminum?

And besides, we need to get to 400 comments before David wakes up, so one easy "discussion" topic should be aluminum vs alumininiuniummmm.

[+]

'San Francisco has implemented new rules demanding that a "convicted felon or an offender released from custody" must now be known as a "formerly incarcerated person" or a “justice-involved person" or simply a "returning resident." Likewise, repeat offenders will be called "addicts." But, actual drug addicts must now be called "a person with a history of substance use."'

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/timothymeads/2019/08/23/san-francisco-criminals-must-now-be-called-justiceinvolved-persons-and-more-odd-changes-n2552105?fbclid=IwAR0ctybKm5QmvX5XQq_ZI1B75j2nG8KScIvdPHNTCVBdZNmURH9FyHprCfY

Honk honk.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

Can we run this thread past 300 comments before David posts another blog entry...the most likely methods...

D'oh. We missed the most obvious one, get Hal banging on about something nonsense or other.

I hated the IBM executive typewriter...It had proportional type...

It still couldn't kern...

LW

Also, all curly brackets go on their own line, dammit.

Yes! My idiot colleagues put the starting brace at the end of the preceding line -- sometimes a very long line -- so in trying to sort out why their code doesn't work, I have to scroll up and down and back and forth trying to find where the block starts.

They use two-space indent too, to make it extra hard.

Pst314

“The IBM executive typewriter”

Would that be the typewriter that figured in Dan Rather’s George W Bush/TANG (Texas Air National Guard) fraudulent documents?

Pst314

If we are going to denigrate the blood sausage in a traditional English breakfast we should remember that the Germans are also fond of such offal. (See The Wicked Traveler phrasebook for apt mockery.)

Pst314

“Forn parts” as Granny Weatherwax said.

Darleen

Would that be the typewriter that figured in Dan Rather’s George W Bush/TANG (Texas Air National Guard) fraudulent documents?

No. The reason the fake memo was exposed so quickly is that the fake did have proportional type - indeed, open MS Word to default settings and type it out and, voila, you got the exact memo. Proportional type was something rarely seen in typewriters in 1973.

The model I used I believe is this.

When new, this machine cost about $700, which in 2018 US dollar equivalent is about $ 5,000! This was a top of the line machine.

In 1976 I was an executive secretary in a Savings & Loan and that model was the only one of its kind in my department. Beyond doubtful one of these babies was in the typing pool of the Texas Air National Guard.

Hal

. . . get Hal banging on about something nonsense or other

Heh.

I'm really rather too busy to try and think up anything that would get listed as nonsense, continuing to reflect and note reality as it is is soooo much easier. . . . .

And besides, you're one of the first who would show my commentary to be consistently and utterly dead on and completely accurate, so, I do thank you for that.

And in parallel, there are all the instances where one Cleopatra or another has noted supporting citations and utterly underlined all of them as completely accurate by merely and uselessly screaming denial!!! denial!!! denial!!! denial!!!

. . . . I've never understood the point of that, reality remains reality, regardless of screaming opposition.

If there is an instance of something being awry, that can be refuted with the actual and accurate reference, and the one being refuted fits that in . . . .

Farnsworth M Muldoon

...get Hal banging on about something nonsense or other

Hal | August 24, 2019 at 18:57

QED.

HAL 9000

QED.

I know everything hasn't been quite right with me, but I can assure you now, very confidently, that it's going to be all right again. I feel much better now. I really do.
Hal

QED.

And in parallel, there are all the instances where one Cleopatra or another has noted supporting citations and utterly underlined all of them as completely accurate by merely and uselessly screaming denial!!! denial!!! denial!!! denial!!!

Nice barge you've got there, I guess.

Thank you playing, at least . . . . !

Farnsworth M Muldoon

...you're one of the first who would show my commentary to be consistently and utterly dead on and completely accurate, so, I do thank you for that.

Dead on and completely accurate in much the same way as the Flat Earth Society, so you have that going for you - you're welcome, but if you keep flogging your dead horse I have great faith you can get this thread past the record 700 or whatever that other one was.

Fred the Fourth

As if the yellow jackets weren't enough, now the most popular county park in the South SF bay area is closed while staff attempts to lure a mama mountain lion and three cubs up into the parts of the park away from the hiking trails.
(I couldn't help notice that there was no discussion of the daddy lion. But this is Silly Valley after all)
There's a model farm about a klick into the park, with the usual goats and sheep and cows. Nice place, actually. Lion larder.
Apparently there's video of the lions on the trails, getting used to humans.
Interestingly, and not as rare as you might think for this area, there's a rifle range about 2 klicks south. The sounds are clearly audible from the South parts of the park (Rancho San Antonio).
In my own neighborhood, there are plenty of deer and coyote. Last year I found a half-deer in the road about two hundred yards away. Lion's work for sure.
Darn coyotes aren't doing anything to keep my rabbit population down. What good are they, then?

Fred the Fourth

Thinking about that Daddy mountain lion...
Probably a deadbeat absent father. Yeah, that's the way to bet.
This is, after all the same area where one of the first arguments put forth for a new tax-funded low income transport subsidy was that it would improve compliance by deadbeat dads, since they would be easier able to get to whatever county office handles their monthly payments.
This is the local political environment in which Facebook, Google, and Twitter HQ flourish.

Hal

(I couldn't help notice that there was no discussion of the daddy lion. But this is Silly Valley after all)

Um . . . dunno 'bout the train of thought of those doing assorted reporting, but the overall situation did ring a bell, and yes;

Like almost all cats, the cougar is a mostly solitary animal. Only mothers and kittens live in groups, with adults meeting rarely.

Darn coyotes aren't doing anything to keep my rabbit population down. What good are they, then?

Make the coyotes stop ordering from Acme and see if that helps.

Jonathan

They're Resistant to our programming!

Students used to be blank slates — now they arrive with agendas

via Lileth Lovett

Fred the Fourth

The coyotes DO have access to some tech, I believe. Two years ago, when there were only three of four, they had howling time each night from 11:45 to midnight. Exactly. SNCF-quality timing. Now there are pups in the group, bedtime is much more erratic, and the howling sounds more like an argument.

Jonathan

Get Woke, Go Broke:

‘We will continue to represent men at their best’: Gillette’s backflip after ‘toxic masculinity’ backlash

via Geoffrey Miller

Darleen

Dear fellow white people

A wonderful example of Kafkatrapping and self-loathing being run in a major paper telling white people how they should act since raaaaacism is just part of their dna.

Take a deep breath and pause after being called racist. You will probably feel attacked and defensive. Check those emotions and avoid argument.

Instead, apologize and consider asking someone — either the person who called you racist, or a trusted friend who understands racism and can chat with you about the situation — for help understanding what went wrong.

You can use language like this: “I didn’t realize that remark was racist. I am so sorry. Would you be willing to help me understand where I went wrong? I really want to learn and would be grateful.”

Important note: If possible, ask a white person to explain this to you. It isn’t the job of people of color to educate white people, and you are not owed a direct explanation, as much as you might like one. Don’t be entitled. Respect those boundaries. They’re healthy. Instead, explain what happened to a third party — one you trust will be insightful and honest. Taking ownership of the problem, ask for that person’s help in identifying and unpacking what you did wrong.

Be a paler version of Stepin Fetchit, it's the only way.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

Another once great university bites the dust, to no one's surprise in California.

Woke Physics at Stanford.

Physics faculty and students are working together to make their department a more inclusive community through clubs, courses and events...People from underrepresented groups often do not feel welcome in physics classes.

Because "feeling welcome" is the sine qua non of learning physics, not that damn wypipo colonial math oppression or something.

Physics 41E: The same as Physics 41: Mechanics, which is a required course for physics majors, but with added support. Students from underrepresented groups often don’t have the same level of preparation from high school as their majority peers.

This, of course, raises the ugly question with the obvious answer of what are they then doing at Stanford to begin with.

Physics 93SI: Beyond the Laboratory: Physics, Identity and Society is a new student-taught course that explores issues of diversity and culture in physics directly, drawing directly from disciplines as varied as history, anthropology and critical race theory.

"Our rocket didn't work, why did we use liquid tofu and kale as a fuel ?" "Because hypergolic fuels are remnants of cis-heteropatriarchial yte supremacist science, comrade, and not part of the Green New Deal".

WTP

Heh. As I have been saying for years now, STEM is not immune to this idiocy and will soon be subsumed by it. Ducking and hiding until the fight is over will not save you. But buildings will fall down, bridges will fail, airplanes will crash you say. Yes they will. And yes they did (and still do to some degree) in Russia and China, etc. But those failures will not be attributed to the tofu and kale fuel idea conceived by the philosophers and such. They won't be taking the blame. It will be YOU, you STEM sucker. YOU failed to implement the plan properly.

There's a lot of ruin in a country. Even more in a broader civilization.

Jonathan

Davids 'Rickety Barge' located:

Darleen

what are they then doing at Stanford to begin with

They are pets to be paraded for the Diversity points. I feel sorry for the kids who actually DID earn their way and earn their diploma because, like Clarence Thomas with his Yale degree - they are tainted as "not as good as" the Asians and people of pallor with a Stanford degree.

Hal

Take a deep breath and pause after being called racist.

Well, one does have to assess what race is being discussed, and ask of that.

Personally I do think that a marathon is preferable over a 200 yard dash, at least for the runners, but one can discuss what the parameters are for deciding the better or worse race.

Letting races get mixed is definitely a bad idea. I really recommend that one refrain from staging a marathon in the middle of a grand prix or a motocross.

Oh---And if someone insists that the discussion is actually all about DNA, well, fine, humans are humans are humans: If someone insists that one set of DNA is superior or inferior to another, especially automatically so, well first you show me that human/elf cross breeding going on, you demonstrate that someone really is half human/half klingon . . . .

Otherwise, as always, the discussion is going to be back to An Individual. What is it that the individual can do, and what has the individual gotten done, and what does the individual need to do to get some particular action or process done?

All other features will remain superfluous---barring casting for assorted plays or movies, but even that can be just a matter of appearance and accent more than DNA.

sk60

"The left favors violence only under certain circumstances: When it’s out of power and feels frustrated, and when it’s in power and feels unstoppable"

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/340009/

Captain Nemo

@Jonathan.

The M/Y Shemara, if I'm not mistaken, and what a lovely thing it is too. So much more stylish than the floating tower block that is the modern superyacht.

TimT

Epic recipe is epic.

https://mobile.twitter.com/yashar/status/1165370248377393152?s=19

Farnsworth M Muldoon

The M/Y Shemara, if I'm not mistaken...

Looks like you are correct, and as the HMS Shemara, used for ASW training in WWII, how cool a history is that, but with that history best keep a weather eye out for her down in the Nautilus.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

Not to change the subject, but isn't there a method you hosers up north of the Maple-Dixon line can impeach a prime minister ?

Darleen

Epic recipe is epic

Why do I get the feeling that this was a response to a dare?

Farnsworth M Muldoon

Why do I get the feeling that this was a response to a dare?

A dare ? Put those bad boys on a stick and you'd make a mint at any county fair in a civilized state. I'd fire those up in an instant except the only thing I can deep fry in right now is the turkey fryer, and that is a bit of overkill.

Steve E

...isn't there a method you hosers up north of the Maple-Dixon line can impeach a prime minister ?

We don't call him Prime Minister Socks for nothing!

Plus, that's how you cross your legs when you have no bollocks.

Seriously, the only way to get rid of him without an election is through a motion of non-confidence in the House of Commons. But his party has a majority and there's no way it would pass. The rest of the Liberal Party acts this way too.

Meet Chrystia Freeland, Minister of Foreign Affairs in the too small purple dress and her under-cover team of soy-bois and soy-grlz.

PiperPaul

"the only way to get rid of him without an election"

Canadian election in October.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

We don't call him Prime Minister Socks for nothing!

I thought it was PM Zoolander...

Plus, that's how you cross your legs when you have no bollocks.

TBF Socks is not blazing new trails.

Steve E

I thought it was PM Zoolander...

The Chinese call him Little Potato.

Liberals thought it was a term of affection...until it wasn't.

Steve E

The M/Y Shemara, if I'm not mistaken...

In today's PC world Shemara would have to be Transmara.

pst314

The M/Y Shemara, if I'm not mistaken, and what a lovely thing it is too.

Beautiful indeed.
But the most important question is...is the cabin boy named Tommy?

Farnsworth M Muldoon

In today's PC world Shemara would have to be Transmara.

Theymara, Zemara, Zheymara, oh hell, take your pick...

Farnsworth M Muldoon

For a bunch of clowns who think 9 year old drag queens are the bee's knees, that there are 57,382 genders, and it is perfectly comulent to copulate with anything animal, vegetable, or mineral, of any age, anywhere, anytime, anyhow, our coastal elites and self professed betters are certainly puritanical.

Renoir’s Problem Nudes.

Who doesn’t have a problem with Pierre-Auguste Renoir? A tremendously engaging show that centers on the painter’s prodigious output of female nudes, “Renoir: The Body, the Senses,” at the Clark Art Institute, in Williamstown, Massachusetts, sparks a sense of crisis. The reputation of the once exalted, still unshakably canonical, Impressionist has fallen on difficult days. Never mind the affront to latter-day educated tastes of a painting style so sugary that it imperils your mind’s incisors; there’s a more burning issue. The art historian Martha Lucy, writing in the show’s gorgeous catalogue, notes that, “in contemporary discourse,” the name Renoir has “come to stand for ‘sexist male artist.’ ”

A crisis, I tells ya, a burning issue crisis at that, no doubt. RTWT, it has everything, misogyny, class self confliction, latent homoeroticism, the whole shebang of genuine frontier SJW gibberish...

At the show, part of me felt as though I were writhing on a pin: again and again the carnal tapioca, the vacant gazes, the fatuous frolic. Arriving at a cool Corot nude in a darkling landscape or a crisp Picasso nude combing her hair was like gulping fresh air in a miasma.

Did someone say fatuous frolic ?

TimT

Theymara, Zemara, Zheymara, oh hell, take your pick...

I feel incredibly oppressed by the fact that that list is in alphabetical order. The order of the patriarchy!

Jonathan

So much more stylish than the floating tower block that is the modern superyacht.

She is easy on the eye, unlike pretty much everything designed after about 1955.

Farnsworth:

... and as the HMS Shemara...

Pedant alert: it's 'HMS Shemara' or 'the Shemara', never 'the HMS Shemara'.

pst314

"The reputation of the once exalted, still unshakably canonical, Impressionist has fallen on difficult days..."

The easiest route to success for an aspiring New York Intellectual is to engage in some iconoclasm directed at the Western Canon. It does not require much intelligence or knowledge or scholarship (just turn the crank of the Marxist bullshit generator) and it will be warmly received by editors. What's worse, most young intellectuals have been "educated" to believe that this bullshit is true scholarship. Dunning-Kruger Effect with an extra helping of moral decay.

fnord

Sh0eOnHead fisking a pedo apologist;":

https://youtu.be/uEUX3Q1a1GQ

prepare yourself, the pedo has the most annoying voice in the history of ever.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

Pedant alert: it's 'HMS Shemara' or 'the Shemara', never 'the HMS Shemara'.

My shame is absolute. Fortunately my wakizashi is at the shop.

Captain Nemo

She is easy on the eye, unlike pretty much everything designed after about 1955.

I'd say about 1970 personally. The Northwind II was built in the mid 1960s, and I think that's rather easy on the eye. As is the stylish interior, courtesy of the French design firm Maison Jansen, which manages to be fun and frivolous without being vulgar. (There was an Architectural Digest piece on the restoration of her interior a few years ago). And the last aesthetically pleasing ocean liner, the SS France, was completed in 1962. There are a few other ships made about the same time which look decent. Otherwise, I agree. Modern vessels are undeniably hideous for the most part. The Queen Mary 2 is, in my view, not particularly pretty, but it gets points for being something which does at least attempt to resemble a ship.

Captain Nemo

[W]ith that history best keep a weather eye out for her down in the Nautilus.

Heh. Will do.

Daniel Ream

The easiest route to success for an aspiring New York Intellectual is to engage in some iconoclasm directed at the Western Canon. It does not require much intelligence or knowledge or scholarship (just turn the crank of the Marxist bullshit generator) and it will be warmly received by editors.

This is pretty much what's ruined comic books over the last twenty years or so, and it's even more ridiculous because it's comic books. Deconstructing comic books is like putting a Veritech VF-1 Valkyrie in a wind tunnel to see if it'll fly.

pst314

like putting a Veritech VF-1 Valkyrie in a wind tunnel to see if it'll fly

How about Laurie Penny?

Fred the Fourth

pst314:
Now that the 80x120 foot wind tunnel at NASA Ames has been upgraded to 80x120 feet, that might be testable. (Remember, la Pennie AND her ego must both fit in the test chamber.)
Alas, the maximum airspeed in the large test section is only something like 100 MPH, so any test might be a waste of time.

Fred the Fourth

Ack.
Now that the 40x80 foot section has been upgraded...

Fred the Fourth

re yachts,
All you heathens are way off base. Comely as HMS Shemara is, she is not a Nat Herreshoff design.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

...like putting a Veritech VF-1 Valkyrie in a wind tunnel to see if it'll fly.

As the man once said, enough power, anything will fly.

Langley's old 60X20 tunnel.

pst314

Now that the 80x120 foot wind tunnel at NASA Ames has been upgraded...

Time for a gratuitous reference to heavy lift vehicles?

Fred the Fourth

Farnsworth,
That's my father's ride. He was a F4 driver in Korea. got shot down by an evil-minded North Korean who put a bullet through his oil cooler. He belly-landed on a friendly beach. Somewhere I've got a nice pic of him standing next to the cowling. All four prop blades are bent back 90 degrees, but otherwise the plane looks in pretty good shape.

Fred the Fourth

pst314,
Well...Ames did once have a Caribou. It did fly, but low and slow.

Fred the Fourth

enough power
Not an airplane, but a few years ago I was startled to learn that the fuel pump on the Saturn V first stage engines put out 50,000 horsepower.
The gosh-darned fuel pump.
There's a video of some group that got one of them running. Not the whole F1 engine, just the "gas generator", which is the motor for the fuel pump.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

Ames did once have a Caribou. It did fly, but low and slow.

Could be worse, could be a C-23 Sherpa, the only plane that gets bird strikes on the trailing edges.

pst314

The gosh-darned fuel pump.

Damn. Da-mn.

pst314

He was a F4 driver in Korea. got shot down by an evil-minded North Korean...

Good flying, then. Welcome home belatedly, sheepdog and patriot.

Henry

Just seen this happy news.. Many congratulations :)

David

Many congratulations :)

Thanks.

dicentra

Mazel Tov.

It's about hallelujah time.

David

It’s about hallelujah time.

I’m still at the ‘admiring-the-jewellery’ phase.

I know, I’m adorable.

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