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November 25, 2019

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Liz

the protestors denounced Ms Mac Donald’s alleged “privilege,” while somehow not noticing their own air of entitlement and obvious leverage, deployed with recreational glee, and their own, seemingly routine expectations of impunity.

Lefties project.

Jonathan

Meanwhile in Merrie England

Go to a white f**king country

JJM

“My oppression is not a delusion.”

Here, let me fix that for them:

“My delusion is not an oppression.”

Glad to help!

Mark Matis

One wonders how many of them are tribe?

Although surely that would merely be a coincidence. It is not as if they yearn for the good old days under their Messiahs - Lenin and Stalin!

Michael Teper

Thank you for your $54,000 fee. You can engage with the speakers who come to campus, or chase them away. Learn something, test drive challenging and uncomfortable ideas, or maybe just reinforce what you already think you know. The $54,000 is collected nonetheless.

Captain Nemo

“My oppression is not a delusion.”

There are plenty of places in the world - perhaps even in America - where there are people who have the misfortune to suffer genuine oppression. I am unable to believe that the campus of a New England university is one of them, and consequentially I think any student who claims oppression at one of these places IS deluded. Someone has to point out to these students that oppressed people do not attend universities like theirs.

Michael McCallion Sr.

“Australians can be reassured that ASIO was previously aware of matters that have been reported today, and has been actively investigating them.”

This is an excerpt from the Article. Where and which country was a source for the awareness. Canadians understand the close connections between the Liberal Party of canada though the connections of former Prime Minister Jean Chretien's many Tax-payer Funded -- Trade Trips -- to China.

So? Where exactly is the source of the 'red card' of low level educated Students throughout North America.

Another Calgary Marc

Captain Nemo: This is it exactly. Like, I can't even fathom how "minds" like theirs even "work" to arrive at these conclusions of theirs. It must be delusion, and people suffering from them tend to act extremely aggressively to maintain them. The outcome of not doing so tends to be a psychotic break of some type, and those are never pleasant. Wouldn't surprise me if that's what happened to some of the mass shooters.

David

I am unable to believe that the campus of a New England university is one of them,

I suspect the truth of the matter may be something like this: “I am ill-equipped to cope with the demands of academic work, even with lowered standards, even in a joke subject, and have therefore retreated into a political fantasy world, in which I am always the star, and in which my shortcomings and failures are always someone else’s fault.”

Something along those lines.

leslie

Methinks they are the privileged ones.
I have met Professors, tenured racist twats, actually.
When they discover I work with my hands, Boilermaker/Ironworker, the attitude they display is pathetic.
I am "one of them" they do not see the irony that it is they who are "one of them".

Darleen

When they discover I work with my hands, Boilermaker/Ironworker, the attitude they display is pathetic.

I have nothing but great respect for people who "work with their hands". Carpentry, plumbing, welding ... I worked with an attorney whose brother makes as much, if not more than him creating custom wrought iron gates (gorgeous pieces of work).

I find this a very weird class divide. But since most professors have never... and I mean never ... left the hot-house of school since kindergarten, it's warps one's view of how life works and of everyone on the "outside".

Captain Nemo

Something along those lines.

I think it's more prosaic than that. The irony of campus oppression, (which doesn't exist), is that there appears to be a massive amount of status and power in being able to claim suffering. The student activists who profess to be most burdened by the crushing weight of campus oppression are the ones most likely to have college administrators acquiescing to their demands and excusing their behaviour. Given that creates a very useful, and (as repeated examples have shown over recent years) successful power dynamic, it is unsurprising to me that these students are unwilling to surrender that power.

Y. Knott

"... are the ones most likely to have college administrators acquiescing to their demands and excusing their behaviour..."

- And does one wonder why? I betcha it has something to do with that $54,000 / student / year.

Steve E

I don't know when it happened, but society, in general decided to stop parenting children and opted to befriend them instead.

It became socially unacceptable to say no to a child because it reinforced negativity. If a child throws a screaming fit in public, you're considered a bad parent if you don't stop the crying immediately by caving to the child's demand. The result is children have no boundaries, no limits. Universities have accepted and encouraged this behaviour.

Say "no" and a child learns limits. Let a child throw a fit in public; they'll eventually stop, especially if you leave them there screaming. The child who holds his breath will have to breath at some point. And the child who runs away from home is usually back before the street lights come on.

Rebelling against authority is a normal part of growing up. By refusing to be an authority, we're even screwing that up for our children.

WTP

By refusing to be an authority, we're even screwing that up for our children.

Yeah, but try telling people that 20-30 years ago when it mattered. They'd think you were joking. Ask me how I know.

Fen

Lovely comments but it doesn't change the fact that they won - they kept her from speaking.

Because conservatives lack the will to act, so they get rolled by entitled snowflakes.

Darleen

Because conservatives lack the will to act

How should they have handled this instance? Be specific.

leslie

Hmm a little story here a young mother with a two year old boy, if she did not immediately give him whatever he was pointing at and "grunting" he would melt down into a three alarm tantrum.
She would run frantically and give him whatever it was he wanted to stop the screaming.
He did it once at Grandmaws house she was aware of the behavior and had filled an ice cream bucket from the spring, ice cold.
He did his number and got the whole bucket over his head.
End of entitled behavior, funny thing was he started to communicate a lot better after a week with a wise lady.
It's called parenting folks my kids always knew who the parents were
turned out to be responsible, caring adults.

Y. Knott

"How should they have handled this instance? Be specific."

What I'd like to see in a situation like this would be, the speaker - and sponsors - secure a convenient nearby venue not on-campus and advertise the talk to be given there; maybe a week from then, to give the students time to plot, foment rebellion, call their AntiFa friends in, etc. Then when they show-up to disrupt the public venue, the riot squad shows-up as well. The Riot Act is duly read, the protesters are duly ordered to disperse, they duly refuse and are duly arrested and carted-off, with any resulting broken heads being entirely one-sidedly distributed. Then give 'em a few months' jail time so their parents stop providing the requisite $54,000-each for a couple months.

Another memory cell lazily stirs. A small city in Virginia currently has no police officers - the last one (and the rest before him) resigned in protest at the massive numbers of speeding, parking &c tickets the town council was demanding they issue per month. There are a lot of places that finance their operating budget their cop-shops handing out traffic fines with lavish abandon; and if you're passing through at any hour of the day or night, you may rest assured there's an all-night judge awaiting your payment on a convenient nearby bench. One such township in Florida a couple of decades ago, set-up by a county highway - and one of their 'nets' rubbed a lawyer the wrong way, so he opened a law office with a couple of like-minded colleagues and offered free attorney services to anybody willing to contest a speeding ticket from the township. They stayed open some months, until that township was literally gone.

I would wish that in the same spirit, lecture halls would be provided just outside Universities by libertarians looking to support free speech - but it's only feasible in Republican counties, because in Democrat counties the riot squad would round-up the lecturers instead (see Seattle vs AntiFa). Whatever you do, don't try it here in Canada.

Uma Thurmond's Feet

Maybe I'll send my kid to Indiana Wesleyan. They seem like ... good God, no: "Guilty of Cultural Appropriation in an ‘Insensitive’ Facebook Post"

Note: The honor student gives us a master class in how to refuse to knuckle under:

Throughout the humiliating process of being berated and condemned by Student Conduct for the sole purpose of appeasing offended parties, I have come to realize that the impact I have had on this campus due to the Facebook post in question has been immensely positive, despite mid-ranking faculty (who I will neither name or indicate here) doing their absolute best to convince me otherwise. Not only am I wholly innocent of the charges at hand—because I neither harassed anyone, nor instigated disruptive behavior, but instead merely spoke the truth in a humorous fashion—but I have also created a conversation among students surrounding the restrictions of free speech on this campus, which is a highly necessary conversation.
Rob Crawford

"What I'd like to see in a situation like this would be, the speaker - and sponsors - secure a convenient nearby venue not on-campus and advertise the talk to be given there; maybe a week from then, to give the students time to plot, foment rebellion, call their AntiFa friends in, etc. Then when they show-up to disrupt the public venue, the riot squad shows-up as well. The Riot Act is duly read, the protesters are duly ordered to disperse, they duly refuse and are duly arrested and carted-off, with any resulting broken heads being entirely one-sidedly distributed."

Theodora smiles.

Darleen

As a chief of police, this makes me wonder what other parts of her job suffer due to her lack of judgement.

Darleen

Y. Knott

Unfortunately, even securing non-campus venues may not mean the show goes on if it runs afoul of the woke scolds.

but it's only feasible in Republican counties

Yep.

K Riches

$54.000 a year just for winding up lots of clockwork mice?

The key to faculty success indeed..

Jay  Guevara

Some people need to be oppressed.

Criminals, pedophiles, and these clowns, for a start.

MC

for which parents fork out $54,000 a year

If students board on campus, the cost is $70,000 pa. If we include a very modest amount for other expenses, then that's $300,000 for a four year degree. Most likely in something that ends in 'studies'. Mum & Dad must have some serious disposable.*

I believe the correct phrase here is "check your privilege".

*Although I suppose the alternative is to run up huge loans and never repay them, because you're earning tuppence from whatever bullshit job?

Daniel Ream

I believe the correct phrase here is "check your privilege".

"Anyone who uses the word 'privilege' unironically is wasting their privilege on a useless degree." ~ Kate MacMillan

David

I believe the correct phrase here is “check your privilege”.

The behaviour on display, the extraordinary arrogance and selfishness, does rather suggest that the participants are accustomed to indulgence and cossetting. Which jars somewhat with their pretensions of victimhood.

In a saner world, preventing other students from attending a talk by an invited speaker and in effect sabotaging the event, would be grounds for a serious reprimand. That it isn’t, apparently, is why such scenes continue to happen, and why they will most likely escalate. As one of the protestors boasted,

The fact that we pulled this off is actually amazing. I feel so empowered now, and this is just the beginning. This is the start of something more.

Note the assumptions of entitlement and impunity.

Incidentally, thwarting would-be attendees by gratuitously wasting a venue’s seating capacity seems to be the fashionable thing. “Take a seat away from a student that would be interested in going,” as Ms Chrissy Nelson put it, here.

Again, the psychology in play - and being crowed about - isn’t exactly edifying.

David

One of the protestors flatly admits that she was not there “to engage in any dialogue entertaining the views of the speaker,” before presuming, based on nothing, that Ms Mac Donald “did not come with the intention of starting any open dialogue from which anyone could benefit.” Ms Mac Donald is, we’re told, bizarrely, “denying [academic freedom] to others.”

This claim is disproved by hours of video evidence to the contrary, all available on YouTube. As regular readers will know, Ms Mac Donald makes a point of inviting questions and debate, often at length, and frequently giving priority to students who disagree with her. At every disruption that I’ve seen of her attempts to speak, she pointedly invites protestors to discuss their professed concerns with her, and with the audience. This is generally declined in favour of dumb chants and more narcissistic disruption.

The protestor, Johanna Mackin, goes on to claim that Ms Mac Donald was attempting to “discredit, humiliate, and deny the existence of minority students” by stating the obvious fact that the students are on a very comfortable campus, with rare opportunities, and with access to pretty much the entire history of human knowledge. This statement of the obvious is taken as proof of Ms Mac Donald’s supposedly oppressive intent because tuition isn’t somehow, miraculously, free of charge to everyone who might fancy it, and because gay couples can’t yet marry in the campus chapel.

Oh, infinite woe.

Tom
As a chief of police, this makes me wonder what other parts of her job suffer due to her lack of judgement.

That crossed my Twitter feed not long ago as the troll doll concerned was hurt by all the comments, negative and humorous, about her barnet.

The best comment I saw was, "There's nothing wrong with her hairstyle at all, now the bloke in the foreground however..."

Maureen from Regina

I have encountered many in the elites who despise those who work in the trades and despise is too gentle a word for their views I have been lectured that the future is for those who work in the knowledge industries (its not, but that is another discussion). I no longer try to debate them as it is a waste of my time, I just wish them well when they need to find a plumber and don't have the $150 to just get the plumber to come out and look at the problem. They usually don't understand, but they will when their toilet overflows with some of the most disgusting gunk.

SumDumGuy

How should they have handled this instance? Be specific.

a group of attendees approach the venue with their cameras running. When they encounter the crowd they get as close as possible without touching the protesters and repeatedly ask politely to be allowed to pass. They edge closer and continue asking to be allowed to pass until one of the protestors touches them. They call the police and have that person and any others that lay hands arrested on charges of battery. Battery is both civil and criminal so you can also sue them in civil court as well as having them humiliated by the criminal booking process (these kids want to be oppressed? lets see how they handle squatting and coughing.)

They will have plenty of video evidence so each case will be easy to prove.

Darleen

I just wish them well when they need to find a plumber

I think we just financed our plumber's boat this year ... and several other trades after a slab leak in the kitchen in August - kitchen will finally be completed on Dec 16 and we will no longer have to wash dishes in the downstairs bathroom.

Darleen

They will have plenty of video evidence so each case will be easy to prove.

You should ask Andy Ngo about that.

I'm not saying it couldn't happen, but since there is/has been a lot of video taken, too much of the time the police are instructed to stand down and discourage filing reports (police have to actually witness misdemeanor assault to make arrests)

Daniel Ream

You should ask Andy Ngo about that.

At best, the police are apathetic in their duties when it comes to these instances. In far too many cases, they're on the other side.

Sam

How should they have handled this instance? Be specific.

Aérospatiale SA 330 Puma

H/T Daniel Ream

Lord of the Fleas

Then when they show-up to disrupt the public venue, the riot squad shows-up as well. The Riot Act is duly read, the protesters are duly ordered to disperse, ... etc.

Then when they show-up to disrupt the public venue, the previously-arranged biker-gang/security-detail shows-up as well. The Riot Act is dispensed with, and the protesters are pummelled into unconsciousness.

There - that's better.

SumDumGuy

You should ask Andy Ngo about that.

I saw what happened to poor Mr. Ngo. A terrible shame.

I would never recommend wading into the crowd, just standing on the outskirts trying to push them into incidental contact which meets the definition of Battery in the very loosest sense. People like this are being rewarded for their bad behavior, they must be made to suffer personally. Have them arrested, drag them to court. Make it more trouble than it's worth. Draw a line in the sand and stand by it, humiliate them. They all think they are tough until their clothes are taken and they are strip searched prior to being put into holding with actual drug addicts and criminals.

The left is using the right's unwillingness to play dirty against us. They make rules they know we don't like to play by, the only way to remedy it is to show them that they made a huge mistake. They are bullies after all and we all know the real way you deal with bullies.

Here in Tallahassee, a young lady was arrested and booked for destroying a display and throwing coffee on a group of conservative students (a very rare thing here.) We haven't seen anybody else on the news for that kind of behavior since. A hard lesson must be made of a few of the worst offenders. The rest will mind their p's and q's after they see the penalty for bad behavior enforced.

Daniel Ream

H/T Daniel Ream

Sooner or later, everyone comes around to the idea of helicopters.

Tom
The Riot Act is dispensed with, and the protesters are pummelled into unconsciousness.

The 'Altamont Gambit', I like it. Some might say it's needlessly violent but then some people do need a beatin'. You're almost doing their personal development a favour. Sometimes you have to break a few eggs and all that... What? It's saying they're no doubt familiar with.

People like this are being rewarded for their bad behavior, they must be made to suffer personally.

This would be the preferred behaviour but in quite a few places, not all as shown by your Tallahassee example, but certainly places like Portland, possibly all of California, and other hives of liberal scum and villainy, the law is tacitly if not openly on their side. It's hard to win when the media and the law are both in the other corner. Let's see what happens in the Covington\Wapo case, although the bakery\Oberlin case was a win for the good guys the bad guys are digging in and fighting the decision tooth and nail. It's hard to say you've won when you've been put out of business and they still have lots of cash in their endowment fund(s).

Sooner or later, everyone comes around to the idea of helicopters.

Yes, but I think we need more lifting capability than that Puma, something along this line perhaps:

Mi-26 - Wikipedia

Daniel Ream

I think we need more lifting capability than that Puma

I appreciate your enthusiasm, but the purpose of the helicopter rides isn't intended to directly resolve the problem. It's to encourager les autres, as they say. This is why I'm not a fan of ejecting the Communists over the open ocean; I feel ejecting them over downtown Portland or Berkeley would be much more effective.

All Swiftian sarcasm aside, I'm honestly starting to believe that no matter who wins the US Presidential election in 2020 there will be a shooting civil war. The intensity and scope of the street violence is increasing and it's spreading to areas where it would have been unthinkable merely a few years ago (for example, Hamilton, Ontario).

Jeff Wood

In time, the problem may clear itself. I read recently that young white men increasingly shun Arts courses at US colleges.

What's more, young white women are following their example. Girls want to be where the boys are, especially the boys who look as if they will grow into men.

The SJWs will, increasingly, have to eat each other.

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