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November 17, 2019

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Jen

Why is it always led by crazy women?

David

Why is it always led by crazy women?

It is interesting just how often obnoxious women of a fairly particular type are at the forefront of such gatherings. I suppose it fits the passive-aggressive opening dynamic, the standard ruse – “Ow, my poor feelings!” Or, “Your existence is hurting me!” And people in general, even those being harassed and screamed at and having their property trashed, tend to be reluctant to get into a physical scuffle with a woman. Even a woman who’s exulting in spite and mob coercion.

A reluctance that allows the group to push further and escalate the psychodrama.

David

Why is it always led by crazy women?

And for a certain kind of woman there’s presumably a sadistic satisfaction in exploiting that conventional male restraint and then cowing and humiliating a man, someone who’s by and large physically stronger. I hesitate to extrapolate much further, but you can probably guess at the kinds of dynamics, and the kinds of people to whom they appeal.

Jacob

“You don’t know me…” “YOU’RE WHITE!”

Good to see the left has fixed racism.

David

Good to see the left has fixed racism.

Heh. Well, quite.

JuliaM

’ And people in general, even those being harassed and screamed at and having their property trashed, tend to be reluctant to get into a physical scuffle with a woman.’

But isn’t it sexist not to treat her equally as you’d treat a man?

Jim Kimball

Why is it always led by crazy women?

Better they work out their anger on some white boys in the quad than to bring it back to the dorm room and take it out on their kids and their Baby Daddy's

To listen to the rap lyrics and to watch the videos and their portrayal and treatment of women the men in this crowd are certainly not keeping their pimp hands strong.

H

How the hell did they get *into* college?

David

How the hell did they get *into* college?

I’m assuming there wasn’t a test on how to fold a foldaway table.

Mark Matis

How the hell did they get *into* college?

Diversity, bro! Never forget our "strength"!!!

Y. Knott

"How the hell did they get *into* college?"

I think it's called "money"...

Burnsie

Yet they'll pivot from violent rage to feigned helplessness, needing glow-stick assistance to reach campus "safe places," when it suits their purposes.

It's pure malevolence and they're being rewarded for it.

David

As Glenn Reynolds noted recently,

Let me be clear here: They aren’t doing this because they’re good people who just feel too strongly about injustice. It’s because they’re terrible, awful, evil people who are using injustice as an excuse to indulge their garbage natures.

A sentiment that may be familiar to regular readers here.

Mike

Un-spanked? I was thinking they were un-whipped. I'd like to help.

Sigrid Maelstrom

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binghamton_University

Binghamton University was established in 1946 in Endicott, New York, as Triple Cities College to serve the needs of local veterans returning from World War II. Thomas J. Watson, a founding member of IBM in Broome County, viewed the Triple Cities region as an area of great potential. In the early 1940s he collaborated with local leaders to begin establishing the two-year school as a satellite of private Syracuse University, donating land that would become the school's early home.

mhb

There are many people roaming the streets who would have turned out differently - better manners, less hostile to other viewpoints, perhaps more valuable to society - if they had just been punched in the mouth hard, even just a few times, when they really needed it.

As is in evidence here.

Perhaps, for some of these progressives, it’s not too late to start.

Alice

The Unspanked

The unworthy.

David

The unworthy.

That too.

pst314

Why is it always led by crazy women?

Sadistic women played an important role in Mao's Great Cultural Revolution--a disproportionate role, I have sometimes read.

Harvardr

Looks to be a conspiracy to deny civil rights. Bet that looks good on a resume.

The Phantom

Why is it always led by crazy women?

Tactics. White Christian men (and black Christian men too) are not allowed to hit women. If they had a pregnant one in their ranks they'd put her right at the front.

Note what this says about them. First, that they -know- the people they are screaming at are good men who won't hit a woman. Second, the males in the group are content to hide behind a woman's skirts.

I think this is not lost on people generally who watch these videos. There a visceral reaction to violent women taking advantage of men like that, and a worse reaction to the type of male who hides behind them waiting to strike.

Like most of what the Left does these days, its stupid/smart. Tactically clever-ish, strategically disastrous.

It says a lot about the Conservatives too. They hold their values strongly. They won't hit the woman no matter what she does, short of hitting with a weapon.

pst314

Wokeness as a status symbol. When most people can afford luxury goods, luxury ideologies are the next step.

Observation: The Ruling Class is endeavoring to deprive ordinary people of luxury goods on the pretext that this is necessary to Save the Planet.

Hypothesis: Once they are successful they will abandon most of their luxury ideologies and return to using luxury goods as symbols of their superiority.

Edward Teach

"Sadistic women played an important role in Mao's Great Cultural Revolution--a disproportionate role, I have sometimes read."

If you haven't already done so, Robert Loh's Escape From Red China is a must read.

pst314

If you haven't already done so, Robert Loh's Escape From Red China is a must read.

Thank you. Added to my list.

Trevor

We can't co-exist with these people, and it's outrageous that we're expected to. I've thought for some time that a Great Parting of the Ways is the only answer.

Darleen

Observation: The Ruling Class is endeavoring to deprive ordinary people of luxury goods on the pretext that this is necessary to Save the Planet.

I'm reminded of that Peter Strzok's text to mistress Lisa Page

Just went to a Southern Virginia Walmart. I could smell the Trump support.
The hysterics, hatred and soft coup against President Trump isn't just about him, it's about the people who voted for him. How DARE that class of people actually have representation in the government. They are people you can *smell* them when they are out in public.

Darleen

If you haven't already done so, Robert Loh's Escape From Red China is a must read.

Thanks for the tip. Just downloaded to my Kindle.

pst314

it's about the people who voted for him.

Indeed. As Victor Davis Hanson has noted, the contempt is partly ideological and partly class-based:

https://pjmedia.com/victordavishanson/government-by-the-faculty-lounge/

"When I would go to department meetings, get coffee, or see faculty at receptions, I could never quite understand the aberrant mental processes. There was never a connection between our salaries and the source of wealth generated to pay them. Taxes could be limitless, because a Michelle’s proverbial “they” had far too much money anyway, and so spent their lucre on needless things like jet skis and SUVs. Better for the university to have it and spread it around wisely."

https://amgreatness.com/2018/12/16/the-globalist-mindset-they-hate-you/

"Whom do the globalists despise? The carbon spewing Winnebago owners, the snowmobilers, the jet skiers, the Glock packers, the Elks Clubbers, the lathe workers, the 101st Airborners with molôn labé tattooed on their arms, the 7-11 owners, the nutty Brit who speaks reverentially of Churchill, the dumb grubby French guy on a tractor who has no clue that his diesel engine must soon be replaced by three-hour batteries, the wacko Greek who cannot appreciate a boatload of noble Libyans landing on the beach below his ancestral olive grove in Crete, the limited Czech who clings to the hokey belief that residents in the Czech Republic should still speak Czech—in other words, all the autonomous cranks, and odd ballers who did not get the message, are not yet on board, and should have been by now long past woke."

Daniel Ream

The hysterics, hatred and soft coup against President Trump isn't just about him

I've heard several people on the right point out that Trump's support is so unwavering despite his centrist Democrat history (NY liberal Dem for decades) because they understand this truth: the left doesn't want to destroy Trump, they want to destroy us. Trump's just in the way.

Killer Marmot

Bullies in victims' clothing.

Sam Duncan

“Binghamton University was established in 1946 in Endicott, New York, as Triple Cities College to serve the needs of local veterans returning from World War II.”

Who are now probably wondering why they ever bothered.

But notice how much they're enjoying the thrill of power. They claim to be marginalized and powerless, but that whole episode, and hundreds of others like it, is about the exercise of power, often simply for its own sake (the jeering and deliberate humiliation, or the stealing of the hat, for example), by the mob against the alleged oppressor.

And a thought occurs: has the chanting of slogans en masse ever signalled a good and worthy cause? Eastern European anticommunism in the late '80s, maybe? I'm not sure. They tended to be fairly quiet and dignified, as I recall. Same with the 1960s civil rights protesters in America. It seems to me a pretty good rule of thumb that a crowd chanting slogans is usually up to no good.

NITZAKHON

Please understand - I don't WANT violence. These people WILL NOT STOP until it happens to them. Bloodily.

These are brownshirts in training. They are willing - through Socialism - to take other peoples' stuff. They are willing, as a mob, to wreck other people's stuff and threaten them physically. Look at the general behavior of ANTIFA. These people are spoiling for a fight and are the living embodiment of Lenin's dictum "Advance. If you meet steel, withdraw. If you meet mush, advance farther."

The line must be drawn: this far, no farther.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

Robert Loh's Escape From Red China is a must read

Borrow for free by signing up for an account with the Open Library of the Internet Archive, which is filled with all sorts of good stuff*.

*(Covered horribly by Led Zepplin [spit])

TheTooner

"...won't hit the woman no matter what she does, short of hitting with a weapon."

I'd hit a woman like that with the contents of a bucket of water, but I never seem to find both handy at once.

Joe Ego

Society used to have norms. Those who transgressed would find out quickly their behavior was not acceptable.

Then society decided to be polite and extremely tolerant.

Now society has new norms. Those who transgress find out quickly their behavior is not acceptable.

It shocks a lot of people to see this behavior, but those same people use phrases like "run out on a rail" or "tar and feather" that haven't had any relationship to reality in 100+ years. It is disappointing, but if you will not run the local pedophile out on a rail or tar and feather the professors and politicians who preach your replacement then YOU will be run out of town (or worse).

Farnsworth M Muldoon

More of our betters, showing their tolerance and rational discourse, as usual.

jjs

These people will forever be slaves of their own misery.

model_1066

Pepper spray would work wonders.

David

It’s pure malevolence and they're being rewarded for it.

In a saner world, people indulging in such behaviour would within days find themselves expelled, with their belongings dumped on the roadside, and their parents sent video of the exchange, along with a letter including the words unfit for university and no refund. Instead, however, as we’ve seen, activist faculty and administrators are willing to disregard their own official codes of behaviour, which generally forbid coercive disruption and physical intimidation. To say nothing of theft and screamed racial epithets. And so, we get the scenes above, and statements like this one:

The fact that y’all are even comfortable to do this means that we’re not doing enough.

Yes, the fact that non-leftist students still feel able to visibly exist is something that will have to change, apparently. It’s a telling statement, I think. One that suggests both an expectation of impunity and worse to come.

prm

"Wokeness as a status symbol."

A variant on our perennial link to the article on positional goods.

Also, wrt @Darleen, @pst314, @DReam:

David

A slightly longer edit of the video can be found here.

For those of you who can’t get enough of Little Miss Braids and her moron entourage.

And remember, when you’re insufficiently leftwing and are advertising a lecture by the economist Arthur Laffer, and offering passers-by free hot chocolate, then it seems you should expect to be harassed and physically threatened by a mob of students, who indulge in a kind of practised hysteria, and who then vandalise your property, steal your personal belongings, and scream racial and sexual profanities in your face. Until you – not they – are escorted off campus.

pst314

The boy giving two fingers looks familiar. Has he been seen in other videos of fascist thuggery?

David

The boy giving two fingers looks familiar.

Hard to say. The looks of hostility and moronic self-satisfaction are pretty much interchangeable.

Jonathan

It doesn't matter what we say or think about them, they're still winning.....

Jeff Mauney

Buy ammo. You'll need it sooner than you think.

Sam

I often wonder two things while watching these clown quarter videos:

1) What percentage of the college is really like this? We see, what, 40 people in the video? Obviously there's a critical mass of leftard admin running that shitshow but how many students are privately disgusted by what they're witnessing, carrying that disgust with them into the world? The answer varies greatly depending on college, I'm sure.

2) How many anti-leftists do these videos create? These viral vids don't bolster their ranks methinks, but turn off nearly anyone sitting on the fence who happen to see them.

I have these optimistic thoughts because otherwise I can't escape thinking that I'm looking at future corpses in the civil war.

Sam

It doesn't matter what we say or think about them, they're still winning.....

It must be my delicious coffee powering steely optimism, but I disagree. I think we're seeing the death throes of an ideology that has completely lost the plot as it descends further into madness due to a purity death spiral. It'll get far, far worse before it's better but then course corrections are always messy affairs.

WTP

I think we're seeing the death throes of an ideology that has completely lost the plot as it descends further into madness due to a purity death spiral.

If life, existence, were guided by rationalism, on a less than evolutionary time scale, yeah, sure, maybe. But as someone famously said, there's a lot of ruin in a nation. Even more in a pan-global civilization. It may indeed get far, far worse before it's better. May. Possibly. I certainly hope so because what choice do I really have? Or we are on the doorstep of a new dark age and the "gets better" part doesn't happen for a time period similar to the hundreds and hundreds of years twixt the start of the last one and the Enlightenment. I seriously doubt those on the doorstep of the last one saw it coming.

Sam

WTP - You know what we have today that Dark Ages 1.0 didn't? McGriddles.

Nothing to worry about.

pst314

I think we're seeing the death throes of an ideology that has completely lost the plot as it descends further into madness due to a purity death spiral.

I dunno. I know some supposedly rational middle aged people who have embraced the demands for ideological purity.

Daniel Ream

It may indeed get far, far worse before it's better.

I'm increasingly coming to believe that no matter who wins the US Presidential election in 2020, there will be a shooting civil war.

Jonathan

... we're seeing the death throes of an ideology that has completely lost the plot ...

Were they arrested? Did they suffer any consequences at all for their obnoxious behaviour? No. That's called winning. The guys escorted away by the Police lost.

WTP

The guys escorted away by the Police lost.

Bingo. Also McGriddles, the last time I tried to order a double sausage McMuffin meal, the girl had no idea what I was talking about.

Darleen

We see, what, 40 people in the video?

If other students on campus, walking by and not intervening on behalf of the targeted students, they have given their consent to the thugs as their representatives.

The freaks at Evergreen may have been a numerical minority, but they had the tacit support of everyone that refused to counter them.

Sam

they have given their consent to the thugs as their representatives

Most commenting here are political junkies fed up with leftist nonsense, so it's easy from this lofty perch to assign guilt by association to 18-22 year olds choosing to walk to class like every other day, ignoring some nonsense over yonder.

Yes, the true victims were blamed and certainly lost the day. What I'm positing is that perhaps these victories are increasingly Pyrrhic.

David

We see, what, 40 people in the video?

According to accounts linked in the update, there were in total close to 200 students gathered around the general area of the table, watching it being trashed and the organisers being harassed. As yet, I haven’t spotted any significant intervention by the onlookers.

WTP

Most commenting here are political junkies fed up with leftist nonsense

Yes, very valid point. But perhaps these victories are increasingly Pyrrhic, yet missing it on the back end. Or just wishful thinking. Young people are much more easily swayed by these intimidation tactics. And most of the young people I know are openly disdainful of anything of the right. And by young, I mean under 40. The idea that maybe, kinda, sorta, you might want to consider wearing a collared shirt to work instead of a t-shirt is met with horrors. The idea that maybe, kinda, sorta, high-paid professional athletes should stand for the national anthem? Dude, who cares? The idea that maybe, kinda, sorta you might consider taking your hat off at the table in a proper restaurant? Now boomer, don't you fill me up with your rules man. One might argue that none of these things really matter. But none of them are political either and they don't require much effort. But they won't do them because they don't want to stick out. They of course won't openly say that but we all had that adolescent phase. Later generations have extended their adolescence into their 30's and beyond. Of course, we boomers started it and are much more to blame.

Darleen

it's easy from this lofty perch to assign guilt by association to 18-22 year olds choosing to walk to class like every other day, ignoring some nonsense over yonder.

Would you feel the same if it were anti-Semites flipping the tables of Hillel Club? These are ostensible ADULTS on campus. And while I totally understand that the first impulse of the majority is to avert eyes and hurry on, I would say the same thing if they hurried by mugging in the street and didn't even call for the police.

It is unacceptable behavior and they should be ashamed.

WTP

It is unacceptable behavior and they should be ashamed.

True. But the more egregiously unacceptable behavior was that of the police and the administrators. The students walking by know what environment they are operating in. I'm now inclined to forgive them even more. In my point above I was only concerned that they felt intimidated by their fellow students. Peer pressure. Which is bad to cave into. But after further consideration, I feel quite certain that if a student walking by were to intervene, especially if things got physical, they would be in more trouble than the disrupting leftists. Which for the very same reason, is why the students actually being assaulted failed to defend themselves.

The failure is beyond the students. It is the police and the administrators and ultimately we schmuck taxpayers who do far worse than just walk by and ignore the situation. We fund it with the sweat of our collective brows.

WTP

BTW, if y'all would read the news you'd "understand" that it was all the College Republicans' and Turning Point USA groups' fault.

https://wbng.com/news/top-stories/2019/11/18/binghamton-university-says-provocative-displays-by-political-student-organizations-led-to-campus-protest/

Darleen

But the more egregiously unacceptable behavior was that of the police and the administrator

I agree. But a push back against criminals, and I consider the table-flippers criminals, has to begin somewhere. Waiting around for the guy over there to do something is not good enough.

David

BTW, if y’all would read the news you’d “understand” that it was all the College Republicans’ and Turning Point USA groups’ fault.

Says Mr Rose:

There were also protesters who acted in a manner that may have violated University rules. In the context of the incident and in keeping with the principles and values noted above, the University did not seek to identify or charge any protesters. To do so would have escalated an already volatile situation and run counter to the primary interest in safely de-escalating the situation.

At risk of sounding old-fashioned, refusing to discipline overt thuggery sounds like cowardice - and a license for more of the same.

WTP

Yeah, I found the wording of that statement...interesting. I'm curious to hear the College Republicans' and TPUSA side of the story. Though I'm curious why they didn't get their ducks in a row with permitting and such. But excusing the behavior of the table tossers, and the wording of " sweeping the political literature and materials of the tabling groups into boxes" rather precious. They were just trying to help, you see. Which is its own form of bullying behavior.

Daniel Ream

Please understand - I don't WANT violence. These people WILL NOT STOP until it happens to them. Bloodily.

But a push back against criminals, and I consider the table-flippers criminals, has to begin somewhere

This is the kafkatrap they've successfully laid. If you do nothing, they will continue to exercise the heckler's veto. If you push back even in the slightest they will cry victim, denounce your violence and use it as a propaganda moment. They control the narrative because they control the media and all the information channels, and the silent majority is content to remain silent and accept whatever narrative they're fed.

I'm of two minds about the CR and TPUSA members. On the one hand, they're doing yeoman's work exposing the insanities of the Clown Quarter. On the other hand, it's hard not to see it as a lost cause when even the administration will blatantly lie in public about them, and justify their decision to take no action whatsoever against the table-flippers. Exposure only works if people in authority are unaware of the corruption. When the people in authority are the corruption, the only real option is to quit the field. Transfer to functional universities. Let the Clown Quarter starve due to lack of tuition funding.

Jonathan

To do so would have escalated an already volatile situation and run counter to the primary interest in safely de-escalating the situation.

" Don't make the Black Kids angry." As Colin Flaherty is wont to say.

pst314

To do so would have escalated an already volatile situation and run counter to the primary interest in safely de-escalating the situation.

If it had been the KKK or neo-Nazis they would called the cops to deal forcefully with the thugs.

Sam

Let the Clown Quarter starve due to lack of tuition funding.

But do Normies even know they're sending their kids/money to the Clown Quarter? To your point their media intake is controlled by the same forces, and everyone just knows you have to go to college. At least incidents like this show where some of the problems are, but you have to care enough to research these things, much less pony up the cash to go to a functioning school. It's particularly a problem for parents near Clown Quarter state schools, which are generally far cheaper for in-state residents.

And never forget that a sizeable - and rich - segment of the West is basically on the side of the crazies, even if not radical themselves. Sort of the "yeah, people should eat bugs to save the planet, just not me" types.

I guess we'll have to wait for AI to destroy the sort of over-credentialed office work that most of these marginal students are heading for to see any seismic shifts.

Pooklord

Daniel Ream

I disagree--people have to miss a couple meals before they risk their necks. People start shooting when they have no alternative.

Joe Ego

It is unacceptable behavior and they should be ashamed.

Did they suffer any consequences at all for their obnoxious behaviour? No. That's called winning.

As I noted: "Now society has new norms. Those who transgress find out quickly their behavior is not acceptable." Maybe you have to substitute 'university' for 'society', but not in many cases and likely not for long.

Mao had children informing on their own parents. How much do you think a random nobody cares about some other random nobody (especially of a different race)? The culture is quickly moving from tolerance of a random advocacy group to harassing their table to physically removing the table. Next is physically removing the people (see antifa in Portland, etc), then virtually seeking out the people (deplatforming & disemployment), and finally physically seeking out the people.

In all cases the people under attack are at the mercy of the new societal norms. So far society has decided that packing up other people's tables is acceptable. Several cities permitted physical confrontations at Trump rallies. Charlottesville appeared to encourage attacks against a bunch of idiots at a permitted demonstration.

Politicians bow to the woke because the woke are the only ones enforcing any consequences on those who disagree. If your own representatives refuse to uphold your view of "unacceptable" and treat your intolerance as the problem then you are officially outside of normal society!

Rosco

The burning time will come.

Rich Rostrom

The root problem is not these people. It's the faculty and administrators who incite and lead them, and who indoctrinate them.

(Mostly - some of these people would be nasty anyway. But one doesn't get this level of widespread self-righteous asshattery without ideological leadership. It's like jihadist/Islamist terrorism and bullying; without the imams, it wouldn't be a plague.)

Also, perhaps, parents who enabled this attitude in childhood.

Tom
Though I'm curious why they didn't get their ducks in a row with permitting and such.

Given the subsequent behaviour of the administration and police I’m willing to bet the CR and TPUSA had a notion any request would be denied, for safety reasons only of course. Easier to apologise than to get permission.

David

Needless to say, the economist’s lecture being advertised at the table was subjected to irrelevant and narcissistic disruption.

David

Given the subsequent behaviour of the administration

If you assume that university administrators are (a) competent, or (b) sympathetic, you may well be disappointed. See, for instance, the third update to the post.

pst314

"It's like jihadist/Islamist terrorism and bullying; without the imams, it wouldn't be a plague."

Yes. Note how anti-Jewish pogroms usually began on Fridays after incitement at the mosque.

WTP

I'd be willing to bet that if you asked the very, very smart and logical and knowledgeable and smart (did I say smart?) professors and administrators and probably even campus cops if just possibly, might, maybe, kinda, sorta if a more firm response was given to the "protesters" who were "helping" the College Republicans and TPUSA to put away their materials "in the boxes" and fold up their tables so to speak, if maybe, kinda, sorta, possibly Arthur Laffer would have been able to give his lecture without being shouted down by...students chanting "Free Speech!", these really, really smart, knowledgeable, not-Walmart-Shoppers grown-ups-in-the-room would dismiss such a question as a sign of your ignorance and hate, if not a bewilderment as to how you could possibly have made such an illogical connection. Because they're smart and don't shop at Walmart.

Y. Knott

"Until you – not they – are escorted off campus."

- Makes sense. After all, YOU aren't paying the university ten$-of-thousand$ a year to be there; THEY are.

Stevie of Sweden

I wanted to know how Mr. Brian Rose reacted to the election of Donald Trump, so I went to Rose's Twitter-page and found him linking to this message from Harvey Stenger (the President of the University) and others:

Message to the Campus Community

NOVEMBER 15, 2016

Dear Campus Community,

In the wake of this presidential election featuring an unprecedented amount of threatening language directed at women, people of color, Muslims, immigrants, as well as the LGBTQ community, many members of our campus community have indicated that they feel vulnerable and insecure.

One of Binghamton University’s greatest strengths is its diversity, which creates a rich environment for faculty to teach and students to learn. Over the past five years, we have been working hard to make Binghamton even more diverse and to assure that all members of the campus community feel welcome, valued and included, regardless of race, nationality, religion, gender, sexual orientation, dis/ability or immigration status. We must redouble our efforts to ensure that we become an even more welcoming, safe and secure place for all members of our community.

As a University community, we are committed to pursuing knowledge and truth through robust debate and the free exchange of ideas. This requires an environment characterized by civility, mutual respect and kindness. Even — indeed, especially — when we disagree, we must honor these values and treat each other accordingly.

We will strive to assure that Binghamton University remains a safe, inclusive, welcoming community. As part of this mission, we provide a number of resources to serve the needs of any member of our community who feels threatened or insecure. These include:

• Office of the President: president@binghamton.edu, 607-7