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January 19, 2020

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Paul Carlton

"Gorging on grievance"?
She's fat, she's round, she bounces on the ground ...

Rafi

Weight-based stigma has an impact on the credibility of fat academics, in particular female academics who often must contend with both gender and fat stigmas...

She wants all the intersectional points.

pst314

In short, don’t question me.

She might as well be constructing an argument that blacks must not question whites, or Jews must not question Aryans.

Squires

I had a number of fat teachers growing up, and cannot recall any of them demanding either the administration or students make special accommodations for their girth. Indeed, the fattest one I can recall was coach Suk, a powerlifting beast of a man with a rock tumbler for a voice box, who was one the most adept at keeping his charges in line - no small feat at the high school I attended.

But then, judging by what I can find of this frau Bobbi Reidinger, she is not just fat, but a very particular type of fat that seems to be prevalent among both the wider wokelings, and, no doubt in an unrelated phenomenon, people unaccustomed to working for their living. She is fatbody fat, not boisterously hefty, not peasant-woman stout with its supporting solidity of well-used muscle and bone, not even matronly fat, that of a broad woman getting on in years but still fond of gardening and going for walks; no, she is a cultivated blob, a great, loose mass of hoarded calories enveloping a human skeleton like some manner of reverse skin suit, or, perhaps a reverse prison, with the bars inside being the only thing that restrains the whole amorphousity from flowing over and consuming its neighbors like a terror of 1950s sci-fi, where, of course, the real monster was always veiled Communism.

In sum I am not the least surprised to learn of this woman’s omnivoracity for being catered to.

Novus

when a fat professor makes their fatness salient

I would thought that fatness was inherently salient.

Squires

Was that a reference to the Ardennes Offensive?

Squires

Are you saying that because she’s fat that means she is a Nazi, or do you agree that you are only saying that she is offensive because she bulges?

For my own part I do not dislike her for being fat. Rather, I believe she is fat for the reasons I dislike her.

Squires

Sorry, I felt that I was on a roll.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

Sorry, I felt that I was on a roll.

You would have been, but she already ate it...

Trevor

Could this in part be pre-emptive excuse-construction in the (admittedly vanishingly unlikely) event that she encounters a vertebrate in academia who fails her. Oh dear, that does sound silly. What was I thinking?

Darleen

I had a number of fat teachers growing up, and cannot recall any of them demanding either the administration or students make special accommodations for their girth.

Yep. And I have a friend, a university professor of microbiology who would be considered fat at first glance, but it is a result of medications and reduced mobility because of a severe case of rheumatoid arthritis she has endured for all the time I've known her (20 years). And yet, even on days when she is in great pain, she soldiers on in the work she loves. She cringes at opportunistic whiners like Reidinger.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

...in the (admittedly vanishingly unlikely) event that she encounters a vertebrate in academia who fails her.

...you won’t have the willpower to do a dissertation.”

Come on, everyone knows that in the cutthroat, dog-eat-dog world of fat studies you need the same willpower, not to mention academic rigor, as in biochemical engineering or astrophysics.

lardybloodydar

I was hoping to see an epiphany of sorts when she mentioned credibility.

As a teacher (sorry, 'educator' is the word we apparently use now), you need to at least provide a credible front to your class, especially if it's a classroom full of teenage kids (the little bastards pick up on these things, trust me). You don't care enough about your appearance, let alone your health ? It doesn't matter how smart you sound or how true your words, nobody is going to take you seriously.

It's the reason I never turned up to class wearing clothes I slept in, unshaven and smelling like I'd just stepped out of the gutter outside the local. Nobody is going to absorb the finer points on semiconductor physics when they're being delivered by someone who looks as though they live under a bridge.

As far as this demand to remodel the whole world to accomodate their weight and/or girth, we are seeing this nonsense on everything from airline seats to escalator design. At what point do we politely hint that they are well outside the statistical sample limits ?

NTSOG

lardybloodydar: "especially if it's a classroom full of teenage kids (the little bastards pick up on these things, trust me)."

Absolutely and the little treasures [in the eyes of their parents] will often set about destroying any teacher displaying any weakness or difference which the little [insert any negative descriptor that fits] note and that includes boys and girls acting together in a pack, even using blatant sexual harassment [including public 'acts'] aimed at young women teachers just commencing their careers.

And: "... you need to at least provide a credible front to your class." Yes. Teaching high school is all about control and power, a fact that modern trendy SJWs fail to understand until they are made to stand in front of the pack and 'educate' them. Love and singing kumbaya will not find a way to sooth the savages.

Craig Mc

Why settle for a larger desk when you could have your own nation?

"Obesia" has a nice ring to it. They could have their own extra-wide flag, with a donut as the national flower.

Chester Draws

There's a tumblr group for fat PhDs? They don't do anything, they just signal their fatness. And their PhD-ness. Some of them aren't even very fat.

I think the internet is broken.

Lady Cutekitten

I need more information to evaluate her complaint. Is the white man fat, skinny, or in-between?

Someone was puzzled by references to a “fat body.” I think the term arose because these people tend to also be fatheads, and so a differentiating (if that’s a word) term was needed.

Speaking of fatheads—about Prince Harry, can one of you Brits explain exactly what he’s done? Is it still abdicating if you’re nowhere near the throne? Is he out for good, or can he return to the line of succession if he comes to his senses?

I applied to work for the U.S. Census, please keep your fingers crossed for me! It looks quite interesting even though I only applied for the office. Americans are too angry these days to approach them at random and start asking questions. I’ll be glad when the union breaks up, I think however many countries end up occupying the area will get along much better as neighbors, at least until the hordes fleeing plague-ridden California start invading the new countries to their east, which will end up making everybody all grumpy again. But I give it 15-20 years, at least, before that happens.

lardybloodydar

Craig Mc,
Under no circumstances should that flag have horizontal stripes.

David

I am not the least surprised to learn of this woman’s omnivoracity for being catered to.

As I’m sure I’ve said before, I don’t generally care how fat a person is. It isn’t something I’d otherwise make an issue or remark on. But when someone makes their own fatness the issue, the basis of their career, their activism, their specialness, and question-begging articles in Inside Higher Ed, while invoking injustice and victimhood and the need for elaborate and costly “structural” changes – and does all this while sidestepping the obvious – then it warrants some attention.

If you’re going to demand that someone else pay to accommodate your bulk while complaining about “weight-based stigma” and how it’s all terribly unfair, then it’s not unreasonable for others to raise the question of why, if at all, the fuss and expense is necessary. Or to ask whether the alleged lack of classroom gravitas might have something to do with being the kind of person who makes such demands, and who says claims of victimhood should never be questioned, while showing no interest in personal responsibility for being overweight in the first place.

And as Ms Reidinger makes no mention of having a leptin deficiency or using certain anti-convulsant drugs - and describes herself as a “foodie” - I’m assuming her fatness is, like most fat people’s fatness, a result of being too sedentary and consuming way too much sugar and carbs.

David

Oh, and this:

Elena Andrea Escalera found that students presented elevated levels of anxiety when encountering a fat professor, especially if the professor’s fatness or fatness in general is actively discussed within the classroom.

I’d imagine that if your professor makes the lesson about herself, her own fatness, and how fascinating her fatness is, whether relevant or not - and does so with the kind of dogmatic, half-arsed thinking shown by Ms Reidinger - then it might well be quite unnerving. Students might, for instance, realise “Oh bugger, I’m paying for this shit and will be for years.”

Lancastrian Oik

How does one create a fatness salient inside a classroom?

I can only imagine that it's probably due to poor quality tailoring of the waistband. Maybe if she opted for elastication and also wore some sort of cummerbund, that particular faux pas could never happen again.

sH2

Fat academics need to be more vocal in calls for increased structural accessibility such as larger desks or substitutions for tables and chairs, greater ease in access to elevators... larger bathrooms, chairs without arms and larger auditorium seating

Or just lose some weight.

Captain Nemo

Or just lose some weight.

Fatphobe.

Burnsie

It must be great working in a field where you can devote your entire life's work to you.

Burnsie

Fat academics need to be more vocal in calls for increased structural accessibility such as larger desks or substitutions for tables and chairs, greater ease in access to elevators... larger bathrooms, chairs without arms and larger auditorium seating.

Well, we've already committed to paying for your well-above-average lifetime healthcare costs. How about a gym membership and counseling instead?

David

It must be great working in a field where you can devote your entire life’s work to you.

Well, quite. And that’s sort of the point, albeit unspoken. In my experience, people who are just fat and maybe cheerfully resigned to their size are less likely to meet with disapproval than people who are fat and chippy about it. Like “fat activists,” for instance. I suspect it’s the chippiness that grates – the prickly narcissism and denial of responsibility, and the demands to be affirmed and indulged at someone else’s expense. The kind of people who say that “intentional weight loss” is an affront, an act of betrayal, and who say that if you do choose to lose weight – say, for pressing health reasons – then you’re committing the sin of “body-shaming” and are therefore an oppressor.

Just like those terrible, oppressive people who take selfies from above to minimise double chins.

Lancastrian Oik

Fat academics need to be more vocal in calls for increased structural accessibility

They could probably turn that into some sort of avant-garde opera: a whole stage full of swamp donkeys and other assorted fat bastards chanting "We need some bigger chairs/ Not quite so many stairs" to the melody of Orff's "O Fortuna".

Farnsworth M Muldoon

...the prickly narcissism and denial of responsibility...

...you won’t have the willpower to do a dissertation.”

Meanwhile, from her twits...

7 Mar 2019

The feeling of impending doom and panic when your dissertation defense is being set is no joke.

9 Mar 2019

Just finished watching #EighthGrade - phenomenal!! So relatable. I'm still that awkward sometimes & I'm 33.

10 Mar 2019

I should be grading or writing my dissertation. Instead I'm baking, cuddling with my #corgi, and drinking tea.

20 Mar 2019

I should be thinking about my meeting about my grant this afternoon or my dissertation. Instead I am looking up baby fridges for skincare.

I think that chap may have been on to something with that willpower bit.

Adam

“Feeling impending doom and panic...should be writing my dissertation...should be thinking about my grant...”

Her obesity appears to be a defense mechanism and her obsession with criticizing “society” for being anti-fat is just another layer.

WTP

I'm thinking perhaps from a cost/benefit perspective, it might behoove those who are the major parties on the hook for paying her to perhaps have a dozen doughnuts in the morning and a few pizzas in the afternoon delivered to her office and just let nature take its course from there. Or would that be wrong? I gotta plead ignorance here...

WTP

Oh, and props to Under no circumstances should that flag have horizontal stripes. That's some thinking ahead there.

WTP

a whole stage full of swamp donkeys and other assorted fat bastards chanting "We need some bigger chairs/ Not quite so many stairs" to the melody of Orff's "O Fortuna".

See, this is what I like about this place. First the shot, then the chaser, and then the mental imagery.

kfg

This, we’re told, constitutes “critical thought.”

War is peace, Brother.

In academia today (k-infinity) "critical thinking" does not constitute thinking critically. It constitutes thinking dogmatically inline with (current interpretations) of Critical Theory.

I could, for instance, develop a "theory" that pizza doesn't exist and call it Pizza Theory. Those who do not understand the jargon I have just made up that contradicts normal usage might well sign up for my Pizza Theory course thinking that they are going to learn all about pizza, when in fact they are going to be lectured all about not pizza.

And if they have already learned "critical thinking" they will accept the tenets of not pizza uncritically.

PiperPaul

Squires, you're on a roll today. Good thing Reidinger isn't around, she might mistake you for the contents of a sandwich.

PiperPaul

Ack, joke already made. What, me read all comments before replying? Nah.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

...bastards chanting...

I don't think it is an official leftist chant, though, unless it has in it "Hey, Hey, Ho, Ho [something, something] has got to go !"

To riff on yours, "Hey, Hey, Ho, Ho, More Than One Floor Has Got To Go !"

A take on a '60s classic, "Stairs, Stairs, Hey Hey, How Many Kids Have You Killed Today ?"

The possibilities are endless.

David

War is peace, Brother.

Quite. And again, the replies at Inside Higher Ed and retweets by academics and students, supposedly clever people, are overwhelmingly favourable. This, it seems, is the prevailing narrative. In their circle, at least.

Paul Hamer

are not they hard on the planet ? all the extra fossil fuel to move them around? not to mention food , pizza boxes soda all takes its toll, a tractor somewere had to work longer and harder ,

Captain Nemo

"We need some bigger chairs/ Not quite so many stairs" to the melody of Orff's "O Fortuna".

I like your thinking, but I can't help feeling that those lyrics might be more suited to being set to a tune in a Gilbert and Sullivan manner, rather than the tune of O Fortuna. "I stuff my face with grease, and fried chicken by the piece, and so I'm morbidly obese, but it's really not my fault not in the least".

Trevor

...those lyrics might be more suited to being set to a tune in a Gilbert and Sullivan manner...

But could you imagine them being performed? The inevitable 'likes' and 'ums' would disrupt the flow somewhat.

WTP

Ahem..if I may...this 'knowledge' is over 10 years old now, so no excuses...

"Fatties cause global warming," claims The Sun, which reports that scientists have warned the increase in ‘big eaters’ fuels the need for more food production. It also suggests the obese are more likely to drive and that both factors raise greenhouse gas emissions.

The research behind this story compared two theoretical populations: one with a ‘normal’ mix of body types, and the other an ‘overweight’ population where 40% of people were obese. The authors estimated that the overweight population would require 19% more food energy, and that the necessary increase in food production would raise carbon dioxide (CO2) emissions. Driving more often and carrying extra body weight would also use more fuel, further increasing emissions of the greenhouse gas.
...
What interpretations did the researchers draw from these results?
The researchers conclude that maintaining a healthy BMI has important environmental benefits in terms of reducing greenhouse gas emissions.

What does the NHS Knowledge Service make of this study?
This research estimated that an ‘overweight’ population (average BMI 29) with 40% prevalence of obesity would require 19% more food energy than a ‘normal’ population (average BMI 24.5). When added to the additional fuel energy used through increased transport, an ‘overweight’ population of 1bn would result in an increase of carbon dioxide emissions of between 0.4 and 1.0 Giga tonnes per year.

From this model, it can be estimated that increased prevalence of being overweight and obese within the population could be an environmental issue as well as a health issue (with the various chronic diseases that are associated with being overweight, e.g. cardiovascular disease and diabetes).

However, it should be noted that these results are based on mathematical models that simplify real life, and that the ‘normal’ and ‘overweight’ populations used are only an estimate of body size distribution within the population. As such, they may not be completely representative.

Additionally, the calculations of daily energy requirements, fuel consumption, likely daily activities (assumed to be the same for both normal and overweight populations), and annual carbon dioxide emissions within each population are only estimates and may not be truly representative of what actually occurs. As the authors acknowledge, if the overweight population’s daily physical activity was in fact lower than in their model, then this group’s calculated energy expenditure would be an over-estimation.

Despite these limitations, models such as these may help policy makers to assess the potential non-health related impact of the increasing prevalence of overweight and obesity in society.

https://www.nhs.uk/news/obesity/obesity-adds-to-climate-change/

You will note that this is from y'alls NHS. But of course pay close attention to the caveats that I've ever so graciously bolded and italicized. Note that these cautions about statistics and how they are gathered do not IN ANY WAY apply to AGW studies. Not at all. So you just stop thinking those wrong thoughts right this minute, understand?

Bill Smith

We used to recognize people like this for what they are: difficult personalities with chips on their shoulders wanting to pick a fight with everyone around them.

Such people are marginalized. Not because they are fat. But because they are impossible to get along with. Their obesity is the result of an personality disorder which results in overeating.

Now we empower such people with the weapons of cultural Marxism. This woman needs mental health not a soapbox protected by academic tenure.

Squires

Now we empower such people with the weapons of cultural Marxism.

Surely an ideological milieu that was sprung from the mind of a manipulative, mooching, unfaithful husband and father to two suicides wouldn’t blossom, or perhaps kudzu, into only so many flavors of the same mental poison. Surely.

Trevor

It must be great working in a field where you can devote your entire life's work to you.

This is the venerable and totally-not-bollocks tradition known as auto-ethnography. It's been a thing for a couple of years at least, so it's remiss of you not to have been aware of it. Here in the UK, we're fortunate to be home to one of its foremost exponents, self-styled 'rebel ethnographer' Dr* Lisa Mckenzie. She's working class, you know.

*Not a typo. She has held academic positions at several places, currently teaching (What? To whom?) at Durham, which I had previously assumed to be a serious institution.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

...those lyrics might be more suited to being set to a tune in a Gilbert and Sullivan manner...

I am the very model of a modern academical,
I've information that's both racial and intersectional,
I know the Marxist writers, my quotes of them quite plentiful,
But will fail you if you mock them or do ridicule.
I'm very well acquainted, too, with matters that are sexual,
Pronouns and the genders never can be hypothetical,
About body positivity I'm teeming with a lot o' news,
I'm really quite offended when you say my studies have no bloody use.

Chorus

In short in matters racial, sexual, and intersectional,
She is the very model of a modern academical.

David

I am the very model of a modern academical,

Strange how you had the choreography and costume ready at such short notice.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

Strange how you had the choreography and costume ready at such short notice.

Well, I did have to let your cape out to fit the Modern Academical character, and there were a lot of burned coats out in the alley for the plebeian onlookers.

David

there were a lot of burned coats out in the alley

Heh.

Sam Duncan

“those lyrics might be more suited to being set to a tune in a Gilbert and Sullivan manner”

I yield to no-one in my appreciation of G&S, but this is what sprung to my mind.

Burnsie

Here in the UK, we're fortunate to be home to one of its foremost exponents, self-styled 'rebel ethnographer' Dr* Lisa Mckenzie.

Wow, what a hot mess. Our Ms. Reidinger has nothing on her.

You must be very proud.

I always thought the London School of Economics was a *good* school.

David

You must be very proud.

Dr McKenzie may be familiar to long-term readers, thanks to a (sadly, now-deleted) promotional video by the University of Nottingham, in which our self-styled “rebel ethnographer” – that’s how she imagines herself – explained that her academic role entails “not trying to find out something.”

Instead, we were told, she’s “challenging” the “negative stereotypes” of rough council-house neighbourhoods. She chose to do this by proudly showing us graffiti – or as she put it, “muriels” - that actually and quite vividly confirm every cliché - of litter, vandalism, gangs, car theft and – I quote - “young people who have died on the estate.” And all while a police helicopter rumbled overhead.

It was oblivious and farcical. And the University posted the video on YouTube presumably with the intent of showing us just how rigorous and impressive their sociology department is.

Hal

They could probably turn that into some sort of avant-garde opera:

As noted some bit back, it's prolly been done . . . or at least at one point something of that sort got done . . .

aelfheld
[...] their fatness overrides their educational and occupational statuses [...]

And any vestige of sense they might once have had.

Hal

. . . Instead I am looking up baby fridges for skincare.

. . . . 'k, so we know that the difference between talcum powder and baby powder is that talcum powder is finely ground up talcum . . . . but with baby fridges for skincare all I'm coming up with for a meaning is It rubs the fridge on its skin or otherwise it gets the hose again . . .

Uma Thurmond's Feet

Farnsworth, I knew I should have looked first.

Still, what's one more brick in the wall:

I am the very model of a modern obese major chaser
I've jargon theoretical, intersectional and racial
I know the theories socialist and I quote the fighting feminists
From wypipo to abelist, in orders categorical

Not a touch on yours.

Darleen

OT but thousands of pro-2nd-amendment supporters rallied at Virginia's state capital this morning - in bellow freezing temps -

Not one incident of violence, no arrests, no racism. Media is thoroughly disappointed (to the point of making up stuff), Democrats hardest hit.

model_1066

Put down the fork, porky...but you can't because it has become your source of victimhood. Bitch.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

...but with baby fridges for skincare all I'm coming up with for a meaning...

Who knew there was such a thing ?

Not a touch on yours.

Au contraire...

I know the theories socialist and I quote the fighting feminists
From wypipo to abelist, in orders categorical

That there is gold, though "fighting feminists" is nicely alliterative, might I suggest "feminists pugilistical" to keep that "...al" rhyme thing going ?

Steve E

Not one incident of violence, no arrests, no racism.

Darleen, and they cleaned up after themselves:

Unlike Antifa, Extinction Rebellion, etc., etc.

Steve E

Also, it's interesting that there were no counter protests and the police were very polite and didn't touch or shove any of the protesters. Funny how wearing a side arm will breed respect.

pst314

Not one incident of violence, no arrests, no racism

And none of the speakers were terrorists or fascists or communists, unlike at the Women’s March events.

Uma Thurmond's Feet

That there is gold, though "fighting feminists" is nicely alliterative, might I suggest "feminists pugilistical" to keep that "...al" rhyme thing going ?

Perfect is the enemy of finished. (Although you're right about that. Making mock G&S scan properly is hella challenging)

Captain Nemo

One of my mock G&S attempts on a similar theme from a few years ago:

https://davidthompson.typepad.com/davidthompson/2015/11/unseen-energies.html?cid=6a00d83451675669e201b8d17bc5fe970c#comment-6a00d83451675669e201b8d17bc5fe970c

Darleen

Darleen, and they cleaned up after themselves

Yep. Just like the TEA Party rallies ten years ago.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

Not one incident of violence, no arrests, no racism.

TBF, there was white supremacist.

Hal

...but with baby fridges for skincare all I'm coming up with for a meaning...

Who knew there was such a thing?

Truly there is a hipster born every minute.

BrassG

Why doesn't she just self-identify as a skinny person? We've been lectured at for years how that changes everything. So, Bobbi, here's the deal: you think skinny girl thoughts and we won't spend millions of dollars remodeling the world for you. Everybody's happy.

Killer Marmot

"greater ease in access to elevators"

What does that mean, exactly? I'm getting images of petroleum jelly and a giant shoehorn.

Killer Marmot

... A doughnut display at the back of the elevator might do it, I suppose. But then you how do you get them out of the elevator? The problem has actually worsened.

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