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February 10, 2020

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sk60

Star Trek: Picard is still testing my patience

They lost me when the 'Vulcan' commodore (ROMULAN SPY!!!) turned up wearing Ray-Bans.

David

They lost me when the ‘Vulcan’ commodore (ROMULAN SPY!!!) turned up wearing Ray-Bans.

Heh. If she had a moustache, I’m sure she’d be twirling it. I suppose the Ray-Bans are meant to imply that Commodore Oh is actually a Romulan spy, not a Vulcan with extra eyelids, as if this hadn’t been telegraphed sufficiently; but yes, it’s one of those supposedly clever winks that just looks a little silly and, more to the point, throws you out of the story, such as it is. The reliance on contemporary nods and winks does make the suspension of disbelief rather difficult.

And we’re now a third of the way into a ten-episode mini-series and I still don’t much care about what’s happening, or about any of the characters so far introduced. The writers are leaning heavily on exposition – on telling rather than showing, which is fairly tedious - and I find myself watching largely out of grim determination. I want it to be good, and maybe it will belatedly hit its stride, but at this point I’m thinking “One more episode, a last chance, and then we’re done.”

PiperPaul

"The Unspanked"

Ooh, that's a good one.

David

Ooh, that’s a good one.

It does, I think, capture something of the phenomenon.

See also this.

Craig Mc

Yes, it's a particularly hard landing after watching The Expanse. I only just slogged my way through episode 1.

OTOH, the Red Letter guys made it worthwhile.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfQdf93e63I

David

I only just slogged my way through episode 1.

So far, episode one is the high point, now receding in the rear-view mirror.

But we now have Angry Reefer Chick, Generic Slacker Captain, and Hugh The Fuck Cares. So you’ve that to look forward to.

David

Phillip Schofield followed ITV runner Matthew McGreevy all the way back in 2011: http://archive.is/T0y2W

Also from Twitter: I wonder if any of these people arguing in favour of shoplifting will ever have to run a business themselves - https://twitter.com/oonskie/status/1222509293204844545

Jen

Angry Reefer Chick, Generic Slacker Captain, and Hugh The Fuck Cares.

That. :-D

David

That. :-D

Thing is, they seem to imagine that they’re making Prestige Drama, a quality product, but the writing, while not Discovery bad, is… not great. And the “Engage” line at the end, framed as A Big Moment, really didn’t have the effect the writers were presumably counting on. Unless, that is, they wanted to induce muted cringing.

I’m fairly sure episode four will be the decider for me as a viewer. If it doesn’t improve, significantly, I really can’t be bothered.

pst314

Star Trek: Picard is still testing my patience with what feels like an interminable and badly-written prologue, with each episode being slightly less interesting than the one before.

Locutious of Bored.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

♫ When John Henry was a little Furry,
Wantin' to smash an SUV,
He picked up a hammer, well, just barely,
Sayin' hernia be the end of me, Lord, Lord,
Hernia be the end of me.♫

David

Locutus of Bored.

It is quite dull and the pacing is all over the show. Episode three feels like where things should have been knocked up a gear, introducing some much-needed narrative momentum, but instead the thing slows to a crawl. It seems to me that if you can’t set up your set-up in two episodes - ninety minutes - then something needs rethinking. And the duller the thing gets, the more you start noticing the shortcomings in the dialogue, acting, editing, casting, etc.

pst314

Argh, that was supposed to be loquacious of borg.

David

Argh, that was supposed to be loquacious of borg.

I just assumed you were typing with your forehead again.

Anon a mouse

Angry Reefer Chick, Generic Slacker Captain, and Hugh The Fuck Cares.

Hugh Hoyland?

[+]

Angry Reefer Chick, Generic Slacker Captain, and Hugh The Fuck Cares.

https://twitter.com/orchidtreks/status/1226322258878058496

David

Heh.

APL

I only just slogged my way through episode 1.

I gave up at episode 1 when time was spent telling the viewer that the new synthetics are indistinguishable from normal humans, but then showing one leaping 40 feet in the air and landing on concrete without even a bruise. At that point, I'm thinking Bones (TOS) with a simple medical tricorder would have immediately been able to say - Jim, her bone density and fast twitch muscle fiber count is off the charts - or something like that. Plus Picard is looking really, really old - just can't bring forth the required level of suspension of disbelief.

MC

a hefty gay playwright who champions fatness as “political,”

He's not even trying. If he was really making a commitment to politicised fatness, he'd never fit in that loo.

pst314

I just assumed you were typing with your forehead again.

Doesn’t everybody?

David

93% on Rotten Tomatoes.

I suspect solvent abuse.

Deborah

One would think that all the effort being put into trying to force people to say obesity is super awesome could be better applied............ugh, never mind. I just can’t even with this crap anymore.

I, for one, would love to just roll out of bed, not comb my hair, pick some clothes off the floor and head out into the world and demand that everyone agree that I am super hot and sexy. However, most people would rightly look at me and think, what a slob and any potential partners might assume not to expect a level of caring for them that exceeds how much I care for myself.

WTP

I, for one, would love to just roll out of bed, not comb my hair, pick some clothes off the floor and head out into the world and demand that everyone agree that I am super hot and sexy.

Looking around the office today, not sure what's stopping you.

However, most people would rightly look at me and think, what a slob and any potential partners might assume not to expect a level of caring for them that exceeds how much I care for myself.

Nah, bro. Things are different today. I dress like a professional, and by that I mean simply a collared shirt, no blue jeans, no sneakers and my t-shirt and blue jeans wearing boss asks me if I'm interviewing for another job. I mention going to local speakeasys over the weekend (where they have a slight dress code) and I feel like I'm getting the third degree. "Why would anyone care how you dress? What a stupid business policy, not letting customers in based on what they have on."

Deborah

WTP, well was really using attire as metaphor, to avoid saying that those who take the time to look their best physically are unlikely to want to caress the flab and folds of those who do not, because I’m a nice person. :)

However, your point is well made, one look around any office these days makes an old-schooler like me sad.

I recently came across a family photo from 1965 in which my brother, mother and I are decked out in our finest attire. A friend asked the occasion; Easter, 1st communion? No, we were headed to the airport, flying out that day. A fancy day, to be sure.

Adam

A problem that passive non-enforcement of laws, non-support of policing by politicians, and actual withdrawal from active policing is having nationwide is that fewer people are even applying to join police forces. Policing seems to be transitioning to becoming a matter of watching social media to detect and prosecute incipient hate crimes, and showing up after the fact to cordon off crime scenes while they are being sanitized after removal of the dead and wounded...and writing tickets for infringing on a bicycle lane with a motor vehicle.

"Just because you don't see us arresting someone right now does not mean that we won't be arresting someone later. By the way, sir, where do you live?"

Adam

Just wondering: Has anyone who is reasonably well put together, rational, normally civil - male or female - ever declared their normal appearance and moderate behavior to be a political statement or art and therefore immune to criticism?

Steve E

Better Call Saul Season 4 starts on Netflix today. I know it's already been shown on AMC, but I came late to the party and was watching Series 2 and 3 when 4 came out. Very bingeable. I should be ready for Season 5 on AMC when it comes out later this year.

David

Policing seems to be transitioning to becoming a matter of watching social media to detect and prosecute incipient hate crimes,

Scolding and threatening people for being rude on Twitter, a task that by and large the public doesn’t see as terribly pressing, is generally more comfortable and considerably less hazardous than apprehending predatory sociopaths and dragging them into the nearest dungeon. A task that one might think would be a higher priority.

Not entirely unrelated.

And as I said in the thread linked above, we’ve gone from the ideal of burly chaps who will apprehend lawbreakers as forcefully as necessary and send them on their way towards the nearest dungeon, to ladies in funny hats who will be terribly sensitive and empathise with our loss, while we get used to the idea that whatever wrong was done to us will most likely go unpunished.

WTP

I recently came across a family photo from 1965 in which my brother, mother and I are decked out in our finest attire. A friend asked the occasion; Easter, 1st communion? No, we were headed to the airport, flying out that day. A fancy day, to be sure.

Heh. Yes, I remember wearing a suit to travel on an airplane back in the early 70's. Kind of saved the trouble of having to pack it. Because I would need to wear it to church when visiting our friends. A FB group I follow often posts old pictures of South Florida. Recently they got on a fishing kick and posted not just promotional flyers from the fishing fleet but also personal photos of themselves with fish that they caught, often with other people in the background. It struck me that people were more well dressed to go fishing 50 years ago than they are today going to work in a downtown 15 story office building.

Steve E

is generally more comfortable and considerably less hazardous

Not to mention much, much easier. People on twitter and facebook still represent themselves as themselves and even if they didn't those service providers seem quite prepared to turn over the real contact information if the police ask nicely.

Whereas, finding someone online who is undertaking nefarious activities isn't quite so easy to find. Someone posted a picture of my house on Kijiji offering it for rent at a ridiculously low price. We had people knocking on our door for days. The police said they couldn't do anything and Kijiji refused to give us any information about the poster. In fact it took us close to 5 days to get them to take the add down.

Darleen

NO NO NO NO Make it stop!

KjO

Picard feels old. The whole show. Not just Patrick Stewart. There isn’t anything fresh in the story telling. It is following a fairly genetic plot. Which is sad. Sci Fi is a great platform to explore ideas. To discuss new technologies. To make dreams come alive. So far Picard is disappointing on all these points.

pst314

Picard feels old. The whole show.

To boldly go where every man has gone before.

Frank Black

Picard feels old. The whole show.

To oldly go where every man has gone before.

pst314

To moldy go where no man will go again.

Herp McDerp

To baldly go where no one gives a damn.

David

Woke playwright tells white people not to review her play.

You see, “in order to encourage a deeper discussion of the work,” Ms Yolanda Bonnell wants to exclude white devils and their “colonial reviewing practices.”

Lady Cutekitten of Lolcat

“Locutus of Bored.” 😄 *chortle*

I didn’t watch this. I rarely watched the original TNG ( I did like the Borg, they were about the only time I watched). I hope it improves for everyone.

Liz

Woke playwright tells white people not to review her play.

Can we be banned from seeing it too?

David

Can we be banned from seeing it too?

I suspect our publicity-seeking racist realises that she’s more likely to receive default flattery from other woke racists, who will be more inclined to let any shortcomings pass unremarked. Though we mustn’t say that out loud, of course.

Steve across the Pond

I would like to share the latest in the world of "art".

https://www.npr.org/2020/02/10/804573893/an-art-critic-was-mocking-a-20-000-work-she-didnt-like-then-it-shattered

David

If anyone has trouble with comments not appearing, email me and I’ll rattle the spam filter.

pst314

“rattle the spam filter.”

Should we also pray to the goddess Anoia?

WTP

I would like to share the latest in the world of "art".

I give you, from a time before many of us were even born, 90 Cans of the Artist's Shit.

WTP

Of course, from a generation before that, nearly anything by Duchamp would also apply.

Captain Nemo

I give you, from a time before many of us were even born, 90 Cans of the Artist's Shit.

On that subject, WTP, you might enjoy this. The late Sir Roger Scruton being as superbly disdainful as only he could be: https://youtu.be/W5tuGjzXJ9k?t=641

Fred the Fourth

Shattered art...
Looks to me like the artist simply didn't understand his material. But luckily the resulting object fits his artistic goals even better than the original.
Something, something, "geometric flaws in nature", yadda yadda...

WTP

Cap'n N, agree to some extent. At the front end of the clip, for about half a second, was a Jackson Pollack. Was just in a discussion yesterday regarding modern art, or post-modern art, or WTF the demarcation lines are, in regard to Pollack, in which I said:

The problem with post-modernist art is not entirely in it's post-modernism. It's in it's near ubiquitous. I've always respected the first minimalist who mocked the idea of minimalism with the blank canvass. The numerous pretenders to come along later with subtle variations were just posers. Again, not that I'm a big fan of either. Any form of art, on a minor scale, I find at least somewhat interesting. It's when it's so bloody easy to imitate that it gets imitated with no real additional substance added that is the crime. Especially in regard to it being publicly funded.
Which isn't to say that post-modernism itself, culturally speaking, has much positive value.
Then someone brought up Rothko (which I had to look up, though was familiar with the style). My more general thing here is, and this goes to novelists and musicians and others, they let these "This is not a pipe" people expose how simple most art is. Especially the minimalist stuff. And yet I can spend a good bit of time enjoying the chaos, etc. of a Pollack painting. I just wouldn't pay $140 million for one. Or even $140,000. Or even $14,000. $1400? We can talk.

Governor Squid

...while we get used to the idea that whatever wrong was done to us will most likely go unpunished...

...by the police.

Nature abhors a vacuum. If "professional" law enforcement cannot and will not provide the service for which they were created, other service providers will fill the gap. The transitional period is likely to get rather messy.

JuliaM

I’m rather enjoying ‘Picard’! I like the ‘Ooh, maybe the Federation isn’t the hippy love-in we thought it was’ that ‘Discovery’ promised initially.

Ah, well. Series 2 of ‘Altered Carbon’ is on the horizon.

David

I like the ‘Ooh, maybe the Federation isn’t the hippy love-in we thought it was’

I’ve been told that episode four is better, so I live in hope.

Hal

I like the ‘Ooh, maybe the Federation isn’t the hippy love-in we thought it was’

I’ve been told that episode four is better, so I live in hope.

It's definintely moving slowly, but then this is not standalone one hour episodic TV, this is a sevensomething hour long movie that's been sliced into ten bits---David Gerrold had his comment about crib girls, but this time instead of every 15 minutes, it's now 44 minutes. . . .

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