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June 08, 2020

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Colleen

Very well said.

Clam

The sooner Vice goes bust the better for everyone.

Rafi

These 'educated' people are so stupid it's actually scary.

Jonathan

More Undocumented Shoppers in Brussels show just how heartbroken they are over George Floyds death.

via Old Holborn

Zionist Overlord #73

It's an intifada. And the same mindset which supported the Palestinian intifadas also supports this one. After all, if they are murdering and destroying at random, it just shows how oppressed they are, right? The only moral choice is to cave in to their every demand.

David

These ‘educated’ people are so stupid it’s actually scary.

And so mentally uniform. In that, yes, these educated people, our self-imagined betters, seem, at least in moral terms, remarkably stupid, imperviously so - and in precisely the same way. They’re practically interchangeable. It’s almost eerie. Sadly, Ms Miller’s LinkedIn profile doesn’t disclose what it was she spent tens of thousands of dollars and four years of her life studying at Michigan State University. A curious omission, I think. I’m guessing, however, that it didn’t include much in the way of causality, or realism, or how to think in straight lines. Such that one thing follows from another.

JuliaM

Zionist Overlord #73: ’ The only moral choice is to cave in to their every demand.’

Sadly, that appears to be what our disgrace of a police farce in both London and Bristol has chosen to do.

David

These ‘educated’ people are so stupid it’s actually scary.

And so, Ms Miller says that “some people” – i.e., “racists,” if only by her rather contrived and self-serving definition - “appear to be far more worried about the fate of a Nordstrom or Target store than that of the actual human lives of protesters.” It doesn’t seem to have occurred to her that, objections above aside, what people are seeing, and generally recoiling from, is a kind of monstrous, vindictive nihilism, a complete disdain for the very basis of society, the basis of us living together with minimal friction and any kind of hope.

And if you’re going to gleefully, triumphantly, tear up the rule book of civilisation, you should hardly be surprised when civilised people, on whom so much depends, including your own comforts and career, react with revulsion and alarm.

TimT

I've had this conversation on line. It goes something like this:

ME: Maybe this is a statement of the obvious, but looting is bad!

THEM: You monster, you care more about looting than the lives of black people.

ME: It's possible to care about both.

THEM: You want black people to die!

ME: Looting sure won't help to bring them back to life, and it will alienate more people than it wins over.

THEM: It's a legitimate form of protest, and protest will change the world!

ME: Black protesters themselves *don't like* the looting. See this link here.

THEM: You racist racist from racistdom, stop imposing your racist cultural norms on then. Racist.

ME: Looting is bad.

THEM: Looting is wonderful!

Joan
Apparently, Ms Miller has failed to register the obvious symbolism of what we’ve seen – a metastasising nihilism, a horror show in which the most basic rules of civilisation - on which our living together depends - are gleefully and triumphantly rejected, then set on fire, along with so much else. The contortion required to approve of such scenes and what they imply, to find them heartening, a thing one can endorse, is a kind of moral derangement.

That.

WTP

These 'educated' people are so stupid it's actually scary.

Yeah, but try telling anyone that 20 years ago when the damage what has manifested itself today was being done. People would look at you funny. Doctors, even "conservative" doctors, would suggest maybe you should talk to a psychiatrist. Ask me how I know.

WTP

how to think in straight lines.

Ooh, you mean like "linear thinking"? Yeah, that's nice but you're just not a big boy thinker if you do that. And no, big boy thinkers don't give credit for multithreaded linear thinking. Theirs is a special kind that linear thinkers are too simpleminded to understand. Get with the program...ah, but maybe you can't. Big boy thinkers pity you.

Sam Duncan

Ms Miller seems to care more about looting than the lives of Patrick Underwood, Italia Kelly, and David Dorn.

Lady Cutekitten of Lolcat

David, you’re the world’s best fisker. Thanks!

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the article’s author, Ms Rachel Miller, a young woman who dutifully declares her pronouns and boasts of being a “Buzzfeed alum.”

"These Tweets are protected"

Don't talk back peasant.

Zionist Overlord #73

@JuliaM
It brings to mind a quote from (I think) Alan Bloom's Closing of the American Mind, to the effect that during student riots in the 60's the students discovered that their pompous elders could, with a little shove, be made into dancing bears.

@TimT You want Black people to die!

Have you seen this video? It's from 2 years ago, but fits quite well... :D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXWhbUUE4ko

Also, I believe it was Theodore Dalrymple who wrote that sentimentality and brutality are two sides of the same coin. I believe he explained that point on more than one occasion, but here is the first link that I found:
https://www.city-journal.org/html/cruel-when-not-kind-13655.html

brinster

I'm all for reparations to any black person born before 1865 in the United States.

Alan B

*applauds*

Brilliant. Tip jar hit.

David

David, you’re the world’s best fisker.

I don’t think it’s that. It’s more that the evasions and contortions currently in fashion among the vain and mediocre are so transparent, so nakedly absurd.

David

Tip jar hit.

Bless you, sir. May the local deli never run out of your favourite spicy meatball sauce.

svh

Minneapolis City Council President: If You Call the Cops When Your Garage is Broken Into, You're a White Supremacist

https://www.frontpagemag.com/point/2020/06/minneapolis-city-council-president-if-you-call-daniel-greenfield/

Jonathan

Steve Sailer finds an interesting take from a comic by Stan Lee based on Tom Wolfe's essay 'Radical Chic'.

Still relevant:

Lol.

Liam

London's rats are out again.

https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1269720576010018816

David

I’m assuming the ambulance has some kind of white privilege.

Are we disturbed yet?

David

And in lighter news.

Darleen

If you are worried who to call when someone is breaking into you house after we get rid of the police, check your privilege.

John D

I’m assuming the ambulance has some kind of white privilege.

WTF? Was there someone inside?

Squires

27 police injured peacefully, peaceful protesters worst hit:

https://legalinsurrection.com/2020/06/according-to-the-bbc-largely-peaceful-protests-left-27-officers-injured/

David

Was there someone inside?

Do you imagine they particularly care?

Again, symbolism.

David

Was there someone inside?

Actually, on second thoughts, given the psychology on display, the uninhibited degeneracy, it seems likely that the thought of some seriously ill or injured person being slammed around inside and in fear of their life might very well heighten the enthusiasm and obvious glee. I mean, when you’re trying to tip over an ambulance that may have a seriously ill or injured person in it, someone in fear of their life, where’s the line you won’t cross?

Jeff Wood

John, I forget where I first saw that, but the report said the ambulance was trying to deliver a patient to Casualty.

Uma Thurmond's Feet

"Sadly, Ms Miller’s LinkedIn profile doesn’t disclose what it was she spent tens of thousands of dollars and four years of her life studying at Michigan State University."

Turns out, David, that there are (at least) two Rachel Millers who went to Michigan State (motto: "Thank God we're not the University of Michigan"). Miller's profile at LinkedIn states she earned her B.A. in Journalism and History.

Yes, it is strange colleges actually award a degree in typing. After a degree awarded to athletes, it's the second-easiest degree to get. (I know; I have one.) The third-easiest degree is history, which explains the rest of her many and storied accomplishments at MSU:

Sigma Kappa Sorority, Greek Week Leadership Team, Order of Omega.

Darleen

I’m assuming the ambulance has some kind of white privilege.

#1 daughter, the CCT RN - her and her crew kept on high alert during their runs last week. A few times they had to transport to/from Los Angeles, one run during the height of the riots in Santa Monica so they made sure to give those spots wide berth.

Luckily they didn't encounter any problems -- not luck for them per se, but luckily for any assholes my girl would have no trouble running over.

David

states she earned her B.A. in Journalism…

And behold her mighty works.

Darleen

Instalaunch! David, you're going to need more coasters and to dust off the sausage roll.

Daniel Schwartz

Well said indeed.

To answer your implied question: "Heavens, a button. I wonder what it does" -- it makes payments, for purposes such as enjoyment of a well-written article. I can now confirm that the button works.

Burnsie

Honestly, who gives a fuck if Black people are destroying property?

Isn't that what a racist would say as rioters burn down their communities?

Being woke must be hard. I'm afraid I'm not up to it.

David

David, you’re going to need more coasters

We need breath mints, stat. And Darleen, be a love, throw on a bit more jewellery.

David

I can now confirm that the button works.

Bless you, sir. May hair never gather in your plugholes.

Hal

Sigma Kappa Sorority, Greek Week Leadership Team, Order of Omega.

Ah, a fratgirl, fratess, whatever the cognate of Bro, Etc.

As the saying goes, yes, this is my shocked face.

J

what people are seeing, and generally recoiling from, is a kind of monstrous, vindictive nihilism, a complete disdain for the very basis of society, the basis of us living together with minimal friction and any kind of hope.

That.

Hal

May hair never gather in your plugholes.

Ummm? I thought that was rather the point.

Oh. Gather in sinkdrainythings. Nevermind . . .

NaughtyPine

Miss Miller should have attended Wayne State in Detroit. A solid college, with the benefit of having instructors who experienced the long, terrible aftereffects of rioting and looting. When I attended in the late '90s, the burned out apartment buildings still stood on Brush Street like monuments to a war before I was born.

You can still travel outward from campus and see rubble; and if you're lucky, people building on long-disused lots. But how scary to build a business in an urban area, knowing a bad police officer in another part of the nation could bring it crashing down.

David

By the way, the spam filter’s being moody again. If anyone has trouble with comments not appearing, email me, top left, and I’ll liberate them into the daylight.

RaginglyStupid

When they destroy all the rules and find that us old people have the capacity to kill and destroy beyond their wildest nightmares, then it will be , "No we didn't mean that."

Remember, the police do not exist to protect the civilian population from the criminal class, they always arrive too late to perform that function. They exist to convince the civilians that there is a system that will hold criminals accountable, which is supposed to discourage us from vigilantism. They exist to protect the criminals from the civilians. If they cannot perform that function, lets go back to nature, red in tooth and claw, and see who has the numbers and the will. Kids, we ain't gonna be playing revolution, we ain't LARPing, let the bodies hit the floor. Look at the Balkans, Look at Iraq, look at Afghanistan. I do not want that shit in my front yard but the "revolutionaries" seem so intent on immanentizing the eschaton. There can be no heaven on earth but we can replicate a reasonable facsimile of hell.

Hal

Remember, the police do not exist to protect the civilian population from the criminal class, they always arrive too late to perform that function.

Now, now, now, a recurring assurance is of being able to arrive in minutes, when seconds are at stake . . .

Why on some occasions, I've read of such remote support being able to arrive in hours, when minutes are at stake . . .

Governor Squid

If you are worried who to call when someone is breaking into you house after we get rid of the police, check your privilege.

I'm genuinely curious as to whether MPD is going to double the guard on City Council President Lisa Bender's home, or withdraw it entirely. Everybody in the state knows where she lives, after all...

I’m assuming the ambulance has some kind of white privilege.

Honestly, that looks to me more like a mobile command vehicle for the cops. Not that this makes the behavio(u)r acceptable, but it's a lot easier to see how the barbarians would consider it a valid target.

Governor Squid

In other news from the lesser of the Twin Cities across the river, I read today that one of the businesses burned down last week has no intention of returning. I do a lot of work with economic development people at the city and county level, and I can only imagine how many brochures that business owner has already received. On the bright side, you don't need cops when there's nothing to protect.

Also, while We Heart Lake Street congratulates everybody for helping raise $5.5 million for cleanup and reconstruction, insurers estimate costs to rebuild will run somewhere north of a half a billion. So congrats, crowdsourcers -- you've remedied 1% of the problem!

Have I mentioned that we all know where Lisa Bender lives?

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barbarians

That.

Joe Smith

"Honestly, who gives a fuck if Black people are destroying property?"

Well, the Black people who suffer disproportionately from this problem probably do.

Same thing with that Minneapolis council creature who basically told all her rich white supporters that they just need to suck it up when black folks rob their home. Beyond the incredible racism of assuming that black folks are naturally thieves, it's also cute that she thinks that black folks will be the only ones to take advantage of the opportunity.

Megaera

Was there someone inside that ambulance? Yup. All the flashers were on, so at a minimum there was a driver and a medic; if they were actually transporting a patient add the casualty inside (and possibly if the patient was a child, a parent or guardian in the cab with the driver).

Thoughts and prayers.

aelfheld

I suspect it would be safe to assume Ms. Miller's views depend largely on her perspective as one who does not expect her possessions to be looted nor set on fire.

Part of the trouble with bien pensants is they rarely have to experience the consequences of their airy notions.

Megaera

Governor Squid: It's a standard box ambulance, and would have been clearly and conspicuously marked as such. No PD uses a command vehicle that can be mistaken for an ambulance because the potential for disaster is clearly understood. It's a firing offence for a duty crew to carry any kind of weapon so the best those people inside could hope for was a Reginald Denny murderous beating with career-ending injuries.

Like I said, thoughts and prayers.

Debra

Had to go to vice to read the article in question. That was easily the most condescending racist dribble I’ve ever read. Miller stands out far from the rest in the STOOOOOPID parade.

Governor Squid

Megaera,

The guy who posted the video clarified that it was a paddy wagon* in St. Louis, so I'm not sure what to believe at this point. It's probably enough to say that I've no trouble believing that these mobs would behave the same way regardless of the exact nature of the vehicle.

* With apologies to my friends of Irish extraction.

David

* With apologies to my friends of Irish extraction.

[ Hides breakables. ]

David

I’ve no trouble believing that these mobs would behave the same way regardless of the exact nature of the vehicle.

Obstructing ambulances trying to get to emergencies and menacing their occupants isn’t exactly unknown at BLM gatherings. See the last paragraph. Sadly, the relevant video has been disappeared by Twitter. Along with another, rather shocking video, in which a lone female driver is encircled by a mob of ‘protestors’ who are trying to smash her car’s windscreen into her face while videoing her distress.

Because they care so very much.

a different james

* With apologies to my friends of Irish extraction.

*offence-detection antenna twitches*

*Offence Level- Low*

*resumes perusal of Best Potato Catalogue*

Alex

A different james: you mean you've been <gasp> microaggressed?

NTSOG

@ Joe Smith: "Same thing with that Minneapolis council creature who basically told all her rich white supporters that they just need to suck it up when black folks rob their home."

This wonderfully kind and caring lady has effectively painted a bullseye on any hardworking, taxpaying [white] citizen who stays in her district. The message is clear: the taxpayer-funded town council will not maintain order and will not defend the rights of people who live and work there. That should promote flight from the city - by industrious people of every race. Maybe the sub-title to her pronouncement should be "How to turn a prosperous city into a ghetto."

Jim

Paul Carlton

I've seen the artillery that some of those shopkeepers are carrying to defend their businesses. It's pretty scary.

TimT

” Same thing with that Minneapolis council creature who basically told all her rich white supporters that they just need to suck it up when black folks rob their home.”

I suppose she’s one of the ones, too, who just voted in Minneapolis Council to ‘defund the police’. It’s not clear what that means - it was a panicked decision, so, whatever it means it isn’t good - but just why, exactly, she expects anyone to stay in her city after that, she’s a fool.

TimT

Sorry, should have grammar checked that last comment!

WTP

I've seen the artillery that some of those shopkeepers are carrying to defend their businesses. It's pretty scary.

George Zimmerman had superior artillery. Sure, he's at least alive, but what kind of a life is that? People driving down the road taking potshots at him, living as a pariah. And he was 100% in the right. No one cares. Our cops and military are taking a knee to these people now. That's where their loyalties now sit. How do you think it's going to turn out when the screaming mob tells the cops and military that kneel to them to arrest and persecute the shop defenders?

Megaera

Hey Governor: all we can do is work with the info we're given. That said, and bearing in mind that there can be variations between states in equipment rules and regs, still, the flashers on that truck were all white and red, which is pretty much standard for ambulances -and just as significantly, police vehicles are all equipped with blue lights these days. (Quick way to figure out what it is that's closing FAST in your rearview mirror: red/white, there's trouble, but it's not yours -- yet, anyway; blue, well, your day just got a little more unpleasant.) No blue lights on that truck in trouble, so I think it's Fire/EMS, not PD.

sH2

After the razing and ruin of their places of work, should these people be pleased to be former employees? Unemployed people who now have no local grocer, or garage, or pharmacy?

It begins.

https://twitter.com/StarTribune/status/1270047461822824449

David

It begins.

“Unexpectedly,” as Instapundit would say.

David

It’s worth bearing in mind that, while irretrievably stupid, Ms Miller’s views are by no means uncommon:

After a recent protest in Washington DC a video went around online from there of three women, who happened to be white, trying to scrub graffiti off the Lafayette Building. The video that did the rounds showed these women being berated by a passing motorist. ‘Why do you want that to come off?’ demanded the woman in the car. ‘Because this is a federal building’ said one of the women. ‘So you don’t care about black lives then?’ said the woman doing the interrogating. ‘That’s not at all what we’re saying’ one of the white women says. ‘We certainly do care about black lives.’ ‘Not enough to leave up a message’ shoots back the woman in the car, adding the removal of graffiti to the ever-lengthening list of racist acts.

Same energy, as they say.

David

The woes of pseudo-radical LARPing.

Related.

WTP

And if I might be so arrogant as to quote myself...

How do you think it's going to turn out when the screaming mob tells the cops and military that kneel to them to arrest and persecute the shop defenders?

I now see where over yonder in Jolly Ole England, young men who positioned themselves around Churchill's statue in order to protect it from rioters, were escorted away by police so that the rioters could deface the greatest obstacle to fascism the 20th Century ever had. Get a fucking clue, people.

David

Old habits die hard.

John

Vice may be the rancid turd of news sites however the satellite TV channel of the same name is pleasingly inoffensive and regularly shows episodes of Bob Ross’s Joy of Painting - arguably the most relaxing and unwoke programming since the test card.

John

Ping.

David

Ping.

Bless you, sir. May your upholstery never discolour, at least not unevenly.

David

Bob Ross’s Joy of Painting

I’ll just leave this here.

Killer Marmot

Is classic liberalism imploding before our eyes, being replaced by woke authoritarianism?

Feels like it, but insanity -- like alcohol-producing yeast -- eventually chokes on its own toxins. The problem is "eventually" can be a long time coming.

David

It begins.

And when, as they will, other employers move away from an obviously risky and hostile, indeed dangerous, area, taking jobs and opportunities and prospects with them, this too will be blamed on racism and a lack of “social justice.”

Rinse and repeat.

pst314

The problem is "eventually" can be a long time coming.

And once a society has been so badly damaged it can take generations or centuries to recover.

Lin

Unfortunately for this lovely woke creature, it's not possible to construct a system that will completely avoid the deaths of unarmed people in the course of being arrested - at least not in the US. Some people get violent, some people are in the process of over-dosing on things like Fentanyl or cocaine and slip into a fatal arrhythmia (like George), sometimes cops make mistakes or get angry and lose it - and yes, some of the victims will be black.* You can improve your numbers and practices, but you can't ever make it perfect, because the world isn't perfect and neither are the cops. By making this the standard, you're setting people up for perpetual conflict and perpetual escalation. It's a negative feed back loop that makes civilization literally impossible. Basically, this is your standard: If a cop makes a mistake or even acts abusively, however infrequent, we get to destroy everything in the vicinity, over and over again, forever. . . . That actually appears to be their position.
*For the "white" version of a similar event, goggle "Tony Timpa."

Jay Guevara

When lecturing “loved ones” who are “kinda (or definitely) racist” on account of their unease about criminal predation and mob thuggery, Ms Miller suggests the following rebuttal:

Honestly, who gives a fuck if Black people are destroying property?

If it would be wrong to enjoy it if black people destroyed her iPhone, I don't want to be right.

Mags

Two instalanches on the same post. :-D

David

Two instalanches on the same post.

Heh. I think that may be a first, for me at least.

Don M

If Black Lives Mattered to black people, then there wouldn't be so much black on black crime, or black abortions. Of course if the criminals switched the race of their victims, the recidivism rate would go down.

Karl Lembke

Woke person: "You care more about destruction of property than you do about black lives!!!"
Unwoke Relative: [Takes woke relative's cell phone and smashes it with a hammer.]
Woke person: [Suddenly cares very deeply about destruction of property.]

NateWhilk

"These ‘educated’ people are so stupid it’s actually scary."

David responded, "And so mentally uniform. In that, yes, these educated people, our self-imagined betters, seem, at least in moral terms, remarkably stupid, imperviously so - and in precisely the same way. They’re practically interchangeable."

This is very late, I know, but I thought it interesting and related.

C. S. Lewis, That Hideous Strength, ch. 5, section 1 (Miss Hardcastle speaking to Mark Studdock):

“Why you fool, it’s the educated reader who can be gulled. All our difficulty comes with the others. When did you meet a workman who believes the papers? He takes it for granted that they’re all propaganda and skips the leading articles. He buys his paper for the football results and the little paragraphs about girls falling out of windows and corpses found in Mayfair flats. He is our problem. We have to recondition him. But the educated public, the people who read the highbrow weeklies, don’t need reconditioning. They’re all right already. They’ll believe anything.”

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