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January 13, 2021

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David

Needless to say, some of the replies are quite pithy.

Karl

Auschwitz: Just a bunch of jews waiting for the shower.

David

Given Ms Vilkomerson’s ostentatiously woke outpourings elsewhere, I think we can assume that, whether true or fabricated, said tweet was intended to both amuse and impress. A bit of peer-group positioning, The key part being the modish dismissal of “white boys.” Sort of, “See, I’ve taught my daughter to disdain whiteness and masculinity. How brave I am.”

That said tweet conveys quite a lot of other things, and unintended ironies, seems to have escaped Ms Vilkomerson.

It’s almost funny. “Grassroots movements.” “Racial justice.” The needless pronouns. Brooklyn.

It – by which, I mean she - is practically a cartoon. And this, we’re assured, is the woman to help us build “healthy organisations.”

John Lewis

On the subject of ladies with opinions I recently enquired about restoring a much loved vintage bear made of sheepskin. The passive aggressive reply informed me that in no way would she accept repairs made from slaughtered animals.

Runcie Balspune

Consider that these "white boys" had nothing to gain from fighting the fascist war machine, after all they were hardly likely to be victimised in Hitler's fantasy world.

But they did indeed stand and fight, so that others may stand equally with them regardless of race or creed.

It would rather assume that the "others" are privileged by virtue of not having to be sacrificed unlike these white boys - but I suppose that disrupts the narrative somewhat.

David

And remember, this moral vacuity is aspirational. It’s how you let others know how superior you are.

Zionist Overlord #73

Pearl Harbor: Just a bunch of white boys, getting stuff made in Japanese factories.

Zionist Overlord #73

Fall of the Berlin Wall: Just a bunch of white men breaking stuff.

@Karl: This is fun!

Tom

A good response that I doubt she'll ever see. She doesn't strike me as the kind of person filled with self-doubt or to have second thoughts.

David

As public boasts go, it’s quite a strange thing. I mean, you can imagine a proud parent announcing that their fourteen-year-old had passed a chemistry exam, or reached piano grade three or something. But wanting to announce that your fourteen-year-old has internalised pretentious disdain for white people, and white men in particular, seems… obnoxiously unhinged.

That this is apparently something statusful, a basis for applause, or at least in-group belonging, does not make it seem less so.

David

She doesn’t strike me as the kind of person filled with self-doubt or to have second thoughts.

Or indeed first ones. This is a woman whose worldview was seemingly ordered wholesale and delivered in a box.

Lancastrian Oik

Isandlwana- an example of restorative justice for colonialist repression.

The "Terra Nova" Expedition- just a bunch of white boys getting beyond their uppity selves.

Little Big Horn- see "Isandlwana".

John Lewis

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/01/12/nolte-white-woman-not-woke-enough-after-forcing-kids-worship-black-women/

It’s happening a lot.

David Davis

Yes, well, now I've read it and also sampled the twitter thread and the comments there. My key problem with the tweeter is her inclusions of pronouns, which labels her as one of the enemy, and therefore supports the hypothesis that she was boasting about her intellectual and moral superiority over all us scumbag normal-people.

It also suggests that she knows exactly what Dunkirk - the tragic event, not the later film - was all about. What she probably doesn't appreciate, and perhaps could not even if she tried, is the massive, resounding and history-making Strategic Victory that the Dunkirk Ecacuation was, for _Our_ forces, for (sadly now ephemeral) liberty and anti-socialism.

One might forgive her daughter, who is only young, and suffers at the hands of modern Anglosphere school-teachers, almost all of whom ought to be fired, and who ought to know better than to badmouth the civilisation that feeds, clothes and reveres them. But if daughter gets the same sort of subliminal anti-Western bias at home, then that is unforgiveable.

David Davis

David says:-

"As public boasts go, it’s quite a strange thing. I mean, you can imagine a proud parent announcing that their fourteen-year-old had passed a chemistry exam, or reached piano grade three or something. But wanting to announce that your fourteen-year-old has internalised pretentious disdain for white people, and white men in particular, seems… obnoxiously unhinged."

I'm afraid I have sadly to agree.

Trying to use html "tags" here, although I have no idea what these are or mean.

David

Trying to use html “tags” here, although I have no idea what these are or mean.

Yes, I see that now.

[ Fixes avalanche of italics. ]

David

I’ll just leave this here, I think.

David

Trying to use html “tags” here, although I have no idea what these are or mean.

I jest, of course. Failing to close an italics tag pales beside Mr Sherman’s spectacular and truly bewildering HTML atrocity of August 2016. We still have flashbacks.

pst314

"said tweet was intended to both amuse and be met with approval. A bit of peer-group positioning"

Which supports my contention that the reason New York is such a shitty city is that it has so many leftists and "liberals". A truly evil collection of pathologies.

Alice

Mr Sherman’s spectacular and truly bewildering HTML atrocity of August 2016.

Laughing at how you remember the date. :-D

Felicity

Meh, saw this retweeted this morning and immediately filed under ‘things that never happened’. A treelopper could count on the fingers of one hand the number of fourteen years old girls who watched that movie and absorbed it. Any fourteen year old girl who sat through it (by force most likely) could only hear blah, blah, blahdidy, blah whilst she thought about boys, eyelashes, eyebrows, boys, lipstick, leg shaving, boys, framing next selfie, in no particular order.

It tells us nothing about the daughter, but much more than we wanted to know about her narcissistic mother. I feel sorry for the teenager.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

Needless to say, some of the replies are quite pithy.

Indeed, and then Che Guevara avatar chimes in.

David

Laughing at how you remember the date.

In hindsight, I should’ve taken a screenshot, if only for blackmail purposes. Parsing up-buggered HMTL isn’t my idea of fun, but usually I can click ‘edit’ and add the necessary backslash or whatever without any great fuss or cost to my wellbeing. But Mr Sherman’s aforementioned error, or rather, HIS ENORMOUS MOUNTAIN OF MANY OVERLAPPING, DENSELY TANGLED ERRORS, defied mortal comprehension.

I just stared at it, for quite some time, and quietly wept.

pst314

Laughing at how you remember the date. :-D

It is seared, seared! into his memory.

pst314

I just stared at it, for quite some time, and quietly wept.

Looking at big blocks of even well formed HTML gives me a headache.

Felicity

David Davis, maybe we could start a support group

Trying to use html "tags" here, although I have no idea what these are or mean.

I have had many an issue with the old htmly thingy. I found a good online tutorial after being banished to the alley.... Just last week, I wasted spent several hours working out how to post a picture using html. If you are going to spend any length of time here - a necessary skill.

Also, the 'preview', before you post, is your friend.
Good luck :)

Adam Carr

A local teacher was suspended recently for posting a social media message to his students to the effect that censorship on social media is just as damaging to free speech as governmental censorship.

The local school board official explained that "during times like these, it is important to hold back from certain topics which might upset people."

So far, there is no word on whether the teacher will be placed on a "No fly" list or have his bank accounts frozen.

Daniel Ream

Any fourteen year old girl who sat through it (by force most likely) could only hear blah, blah, blahdidy, blah

If only.

A friend of mine has a 17-year-old son and a 14-year-old daughter. He borrowed my Dunkirk BluRay a few months back to watch with his son (a family member was present at the evacuation). The OP's tweet is exactly the sort of thing likely to have issued from the mouth of his daughter, who has decided she is no longer a girl, insists on being referred to by a random Japanese word, and has chopped off her waist-length hair in favour of the typical side-shaved "enby" cut.

David Davis

I jest, of course. Failing to close an italics tag pales beside Mr Sherman’s spectacular and truly bewildering HTML atrocity of August 2016. We still have flashbacks.

Thanks David, let's see if I've learned my second html word!

Ah....it sees I have....

David

Ah....it seems I have....

Well done, sir.

[ Breathing returns to normal. ]

Stephen

Titanic victims? Fuck em.

WTP

Looking at big blocks of even well formed HTML gives me a headache.

Heh. Try picking it out of Java servlet code, especially in the early bad old days. Especially when original servlet was written by some muddled brain marginally qualified thinker, possibly one who grew up on COBOL (and was reportedly not even good at that) and thus later went up the ladder into management. Not speaking of anyone in particular of course. Well, anyone in particular that anyone here would know.

pst314

Heh. Try picking it out of Java servlet code, especially in the early bad old days.

One of my recurring frustrations was people who would write code without considering those who would have to maintain it: what was clear to them at the moment might be obscure to someone else a year later. Part of this seemed to be generic human forgetfulness, but part was an inability to put themselves into others' shoes and adjust their practices accordingly.

cayleygraph2015
Any fourteen year old girl who sat through it (by force most likely) could only hear blah, blah, blahdidy, blah

If only.

I think it happened, but I think she said it to distract from the fact that she wasn't paying attention to the movie, rather than her beliefs about the worthiness of "white boys'" lives.

Which can be just as bad, really; she may not actively attack people, but she's happy to ignore it when they're attacked right in front of her.

cayleygraph2015

It's the standard software development lifecycle:

  1. Write slapdash code that just barely gets results
  2. Get assigned to another project before you can shore up your code
Thanks to requiring automated testing, we've seen a revolution in software development:
  1. Write slapdash code that just barely gets results
  2. Write slapdash tests that verify you just barely get results
  3. Get assigned to another project before you can shore up your code

APL

Slightly off topic, I remember reading an online review of Clint Eastwood's "Unforgiven" summarizing the movie as "killer turned pig farmer, turned killer". I guess that's sort of correct.

Karl

people who would write code without considering those who would have to maintain it

I have the opposite problem - here's a single perl line I wrote:

# ########################################################################################################
# Incidentally there's an amusing problem with trying to do something like
# grep { File::Spec->rel2abs($arg)."/" !~ /$target/ } @args;
# WILL NOT WORK because the !~ or =~ operator takes precedence over the . operator
# However you can put the entire left side in quotes. But then you must interpolate the subroutine:
grep { "${\File::Spec->rel2abs($arg)}/" !~ /$target/ } @args;
# This works because when the "${...}" is seen in the double-quoted string, it's evaluated as a block.
# The contents of the block is a reference to the result of the rel2abs() call,
# which is then dereferenced by the structure ${ .. } and interpolated into the string.
# Anyway, where were we?...
# ########################################################################################################

aelfheld

Never have so many made such a virtue of their ignorance.

Sam

seems… obnoxiously unhinged.

It is. Now what? Is she ever going to read those replies and think, "Wow, what a huge mistake that was! Now that I understand their sacrifice should not be flippantly dismissed, and bringing race into it only made the sentiment more cruel and vapid." Ha.

We keep talking like we wield SJW-level cancel powers, but doing little to nothing when our feeble protestations, yet again, fail to shame the shameless. This public statement, intended to further humiliate and denigrate the "right" kind of people, has gloriously accomplished it's task.

I've enjoyed mocking the left for decades but cannot escape the gnawing feeling that I'm laughing all the way to the boxcar.

Governor Squid

This public statement, intended to further humiliate and denigrate the "right" kind of people, has gloriously accomplished it's task.

I don't think it has, in this case. Often, one sees a virtue signal like this where the clapping seals all chime in and it's one great big orgy of wokery. But occasionally you'll see a case like this where the protesters have enough numbers to cause the mockery to float to the top, so that any passerby sees the criticism and understands that the pronouned speaker is not to be taken seriously.

It's unfortunate that such a pile-on is necessary, but it's nice to see the occasional wokeling cut off at the knees. And it reassures the few remaining sane people that they're not alone.

Vincent

"White boy" is a racial slur that blacks are very fond of using, as they might see it in response to adult black employees or servants being called "boy" in the old days. There are complexities and plausible deniability - bellboy, good ol' boy, etc. But a lack of respect (whether careless or deliberate) is conveyed, like a Frenchman addressing an adult stranger by "tu".

It's part of the package of physical and mental postures that well brought up 14 year olds learn from rappers or from their Black Friend in school. White boys (in the literal sense of minor-aged males) imitate the package for a taste of licensed toxic masculinity in a culture that otherwise shames masculinity. White girls imitate the package because they're conformist and like to back a cultural winner.

"White boy" is the edgy racial slur these white teenagers are allowed and encouraged to use, unlike the other racial slur that can get them Two-Minute-Hated in national media if they fail to skip every instance of it during their Tik-Tok pantomimes.

pst314

"White boy" is a racial slur that blacks are very fond of using

I have slowly learned, through random encounters, that many black people are stone cold racists.

Bill de Haan

I have slowly learned, through random encounters, that many black people are stone cold racists.

As Chris Rock put it, black people are more racist than white people, because not only are black people racist against white people, all of the things that racist white people don't like about black people are things that black people really don't like about other black people.

I don't think blacks are on average any more or less likely to be racist. I do think that current culture has led much of the black community to believe the delusion that they are incapable of being racist, which pretty much guarantees that not only will they develop racist attitudes, they'll be more virulent and extreme than what they're condemning.

There was a Chrome extension (since pulled from the store) that swapped white and black terminology on web pages. So if you read a newspaper story, the blacks and whites terms would be reversed. Some wag installed it on the computers in a local school, and the TOCs (teachers of colour) went apoplectic at the stunning, visceral racism of the white people in these stories. They demanded action, marches in the streets, etc. At least until they found that they were actually reading about how blacks were treating whites, at which point the matter was dropped and forgotten.

As for the subject at hand, I think the next generation is going to be completely perplexed at how anything was ever accomplished in the past, since it seems everything is the result of all those "stunning and brave" morbidly obese black lesbians.

Cloudbuster

How come she's letting her 14-year-old be raised by White parents?

Sam

nice to see the occasional wokeling cut off at the knees

...usually followed by a plush job offer from some NGO or government agency, or a nice gig at some lefty publisher if they write words for a living. By all means cut off their legs, but the closet full of jackboots suggest they have plenty to spare. But #pwnd #dunkedon #deboonked I guess.

pst314

"...the delusion that they are incapable of being racist, which pretty much guarantees that not only will they develop racist attitudes, they'll be more virulent and extreme than what they're condemning."

Agreed. Also the fact that there are no social consequences for being openly racist.

"Stunning and brave"

If certainly would be stunned if one fell on me. Concussed, even.

pst314

I would be, not If would be. Argh.

cayleygraph2015
There was a Chrome extension (since pulled from the store) that swapped white and black terminology on web pages. So if you read a newspaper story, the blacks and whites terms would be reversed. Some wag installed it on the computers in a local school, and the TOCs (teachers of colour) went apoplectic at the stunning, visceral racism of the white people in these stories. They demanded action, marches in the streets, etc. At least until they found that they were actually reading about how blacks were treating whites, at which point the matter was dropped and forgotten.
I'd like to say we should install this on more computers, except I think we'd end up with more people who never discover the hoax than those who do.
pst314

There was a Chrome extension (since pulled from the store) that swapped white and black terminology on web pages.

One could create a web page that does this: enter a URL and it performs the reversal on whatever is on that page. Sort of a politically incorrect Google Translate.

David

Also the fact that there are no social consequences for [minorities] being openly racist.

If you exempt certain groups from normal proprieties and expectations of reciprocation – in the name of “equity,” no less – the results will tend to be unattractive. And remember, when bemoaning “privilege,” we mustn’t ever mention this kind of thing.

That wouldn’t do at all.

WTP

– the results will tend to be unattractive.

According to the comments, Tim Newman is either now, or by September will be a complete and utter misogynist. Can't say I've seen him at any of the meetings.

anon a mouse

insists on being referred to by a random Japanese word

I continue to wonder why so many white... women have random Chinese characters tattooed in various places. I still chuckle at the memory of one youngish sporting what she claimed were the symbols for "love and virtue", yet they amazingly resembled the symbols for green cabbage (Bok Choy).

David

Can’t say I've seen him at any of the meetings.

The tall chap at the back, with the dark glasses and the headscarf.

pst314

The tall chap at the back, with the dark glasses and the headscarf.

He is not of the body!

WTP

He is not of the body!

Hence the dark glasses and headscarf. Like the Invisible Man. Do try and keep up.

ccscientist

"White boys waiting for a boat" is a style of making fun of something by summarizing it to triviality. "The Money Pit is about a couple who buy a house".
but there is a tone here of sneering at a pivotal moment in world history. It was the entire british army that was about to get captured. If they had, the brits would have had to sue for peace with hitler and europe might still be nazi. And it was white boys who saved the world, my dear twit.

pst314

Do try and keep up.

What happened to the Guild of Evil lapel pins?

WTP

If they had, the brits would have had to sue for peace with hitler and europe might still be nazi.

Sooo....white boys kick the can down the road 80 years?

https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/sandwich-brexit-netherlands-intl-scli-gbr/index.html

I heard the lapel pins got confiscated as well.

pst314

I heard the lapel pins got confiscated as well.

As long as we don't return to sewing the insignia into the lining of our hats: I kept wearing the wrong hat and it was so embarrassing to display a THRUSH insignia when entering a GOE meeting. Possibly why I never got promoted.

cayleygraph2015

I didn't get the lapel pins references, so I googled THRUSH GOE.

And that's how I learned it's a type of yeast infection.

pst314

I didn't get the lapel pins references...

[carefully ignores mention of yeast infections]
So The Man From U.N.C.L.E. was before your time? Very popular when I was a kid.
I actually have no idea who first came up with the Guild of Evil, but it's been a running joke all over the internet for years. And then there's the battle cry "Free the hero of Krasnovia!" You'll have fun googling that, perhaps.

ACTOldFart

The Bible: Just a bunch of Jews wandering around and you know, like, some of them form a breakaway group

Dr Evil

Rorke's Drift: A bunch of white boys winning 23 Victoria Crosses.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

I heard the lapel pins got confiscated as well.

Typical products like cheddar, clotted cream, and Scottish haggis will then no longer be allowed with you."

So aside from the cheddar, they are not entirely wrong, then.

You'll have fun googling that, perhaps.

Not if you were actually there, man.

pst314

A different James mentioned Dad's Army in a recent comment thread.

Thanks! I have now seen the movie and will next borrow the TV series. Very good.

Daniel Ream

I continue to wonder why so many white... women have random Chinese characters tattooed in various places.

In this particular case, the wife spent an undergrad semester in Japan and decided that being Japanese was her life's ambition. Unfortunately her understanding of Japan comes mostly from movies and anime. More anime, really. The daughter has picked up on this.

Said wife's sister-in-law, who is actually Japanese, has the most subtle "Oh Jesus Christ" eye roll I've ever seen at family gatherings.

Free the hero of Krasnovia!

Colonel, I'm an ordinary Englishman. I couldn't begin to act like a hero even if I tried.

pst314

Colonel, I'm an ordinary Englishman. I couldn't begin to act like a hero even if I tried.

Well, you could do your part by making sandwiches and waffles for the heroes. Much fun was had at the expense of Fecesbook.

Watcher In The Dark

My wife's grandfather was killed while waiting for a boat at Dunkirk.

I strongly suspect there was something else going on rather than just waiting on a beach.

a different james

A different James mentioned Dad's Army in a recent comment thread.

You're welcome.

I hope you don't get the same looks of pity as I do at home when I watch it.

I only recently became aware of the war experiences of Arthur Ridley who played the doddery pacifist, Private Godfrey.

Just another white boy spending time in France, I suppose.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-35491036

pst314

I only recently became aware of the war experiences of Arthur Ridley who played the doddery pacifist, Private Godfrey.

And so many veterans didn't talk about their experiences, and even discounted them. More in the next comment.

pst314

David and james, I just ran across a fascinating item on the Assistant Village Idiot blog about J.R.R. Tolkien's service in WWI:

"Until recently biographers and commenters on JRR Tolkien have taken him at his word that he was not a good soldier during WWI. He believed he had done his duty but little more, and he specifically referenced his character of Sam Gamgee as the sort of person he thought a better soldier than he.

The great Churchill biographer Sir Martin Gilbert disagreed, and has taken some pains to contact Tolkien biographers and expositers and give them some background.
...
He found that WWI soldiers, when asked who had been good soldiers, invariably identified those who had died. While the army, navy, and government would identify acts of heroism among the living and award them, the servicemen themselves did not mention this. Gilbert, knowing this by the time people were writing that his friend Tollers was being called a bad soldier, did a bit of research - he admits not exhaustive - and found that all indications were that he had been an excellent soldier. But the survivors didn't say that then.
...
Tolkien honored the dead throughout the work, and his characters who survive battles always make light of their own part..."

Daniel Ream

Well, you could do your part by making sandwiches and waffles

I came for fishing, not revolutions. I don't like revolutions and I do like fishing.

pst314

I came for fishing, not revolutions. I don't like revolutions and I do like fishing.

It's not revolution, it's heroic defense of our glorious motherland Krasnovia from the vile Pinelanders. But in addition to sandwiches and genocide (but mostly sandwiches) Krasnovia is also known for beautiful upland lakes and trout streams. Come stay in our rustic fishing lodges and spend your nice American dollars. Waffles for breakfast every day.

pst314

Waffles for breakfast every day.

Also: no hump fat. Just sweet fresh butter. From cows that were not liberated from Pinelandia. We promise.

Daniel Ream

Come stay in our rustic fishing lodges and spend your nice American dollars.

If your monarch gets kidnapped on the eve of his coronation, I'm not helping.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

...Krasnovia is also known for beautiful upland lakes and trout streams...

Krasnovia is a land of desert located between The Baja Republic and the Republic of Mojave on the island of Tierra del Diablo. It is not to be confused with the country of Atropia, which is in the same place, or worse still, the Republic of Cortina where no one in there right mind wants to go. No one who was there will ever be the same.

pst314

Pay no attention to that Farnsworth liar! He will soon learn the true facts, just as soon as our team of educators can shake the sand out of their shoes.

Fred the Fourth

I noticed the bump in New comments and scrolled down, thinking maybe to participate, only to find myself utterly at sea. And apparently, not the sea off Dunkirk, either.

[Fiddles with the stale barnuts littering the area, awaiting a general return to sanity.]

Kevin Riches

'Critical Race Theory' - just a bunch of white men playing with votes..

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