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January 10, 2021

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Jen

They're going to miss him. :-)

David

They’re going to miss him. :-)

Well, I suppose if your peer group is one that requires endless, competitive signalling – via breathless claims of how monstrous and fascistic the current incumbent of the White House is, and how mentally debilitating even thinking about him is, which you nonetheless do, every day, of course – then the prospect of losing that object of hate, and status, must be a cause of… mixed feelings.

Stephanie Richer

I am literally laughing.

Also, this from the New York Times made me giggle my goddamned ass off:

“ "It will be a long time before they feel safe again at work, they say, knowing that a building once thought to be among the most secure in Washington could be breached by a mob carrying, among other things, a Confederate flag and displaying anti-Semitic iconography.... The Capitol Police have come under fire for seeming, at times, to offer little resistance to the pro-Trump mob. While some experts defended their actions as prioritizing the protection of lawmakers over the securing of the building, many congressional staff members, along with custodial and food service workers, were left wondering whether they were safe.... Black staff members in particular said the rampage had reminded them of the struggles they had often had to come to terms with in order to work for Congress.... One Black congressional staff member who also took a walk through the Capitol to survey the aftermath on Wednesday night said that despite all the damage, he had been stopped in his tracks outside Representative Steny Hoyer’s office, where a poster honoring John Lewis, the congressman and civil rights leader who died in August, had been displayed. It was missing. He looked for it feverishly and found only a broken piece on the ground next to a trash can. The image of Mr. Lewis was gone. All that remained of his celebrated quote, 'Get into good trouble, necessary trouble,' were the final two words — smudged by a boot print."

Wait a sec ... I feel something coming on ... ahhhhhhh HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

David

I am literally laughing.

It’s quite odd how the people who imagine themselves our political betters, the ones to whom we should defer, are very often neurotic monomaniacs whose minds seem bizarrely fragile and forever on the verge of coming undone.

Richard

Two more-or-less unrelated comments:
1. the left talks about making Trump disappear from the national memory but - they cannot. They have nothing to offer - no projects to distract us, no grand schemes, no value to deliver. They have to keep Trump in the public eye in order to say, "See? We are better than this guy!"

2. I saw a meme yesterday. "We spend $750 billion on "defense" and the center of American government fell to the duck dynasty and the guy in the chewbacca bikini." Now we hear calls for cleansing, marking (yellow stars anyone?), silencing opposition, and overwhelming government response. Cui bono?

pst314

"Mr Tiedrich tweets about Donald Trump many times, every day...They’re going to miss him."

The left always needs an Emmanuel Goldstein.

pst314

the left talks about making Trump disappear from the national memory...

It goes far beyond that: the left talks about shutting down all conservative opinion on the internet--and anywhere else, too, since the left also talks about denying banking services to conservatives.

Nikw211

He looked for it feverishly and found only a broken piece on the ground next to a trash can. The image of Mr. Lewis was gone. All that remained of his celebrated quote, 'Get into good trouble, necessary trouble,' were the final two words — smudged by a boot print."

Jayson Blair's not back on the staff at The New York Times by any chance, is he?

I mean, there's a lot in their mea culpa that sounds eerily familiar 17 years later:

    A staff reporter for The New York Times committed frequent acts of journalistic fraud while covering significant news events in recent months [ ...]

    The reporter, Jayson Blair, 27, misled readers and Times colleagues with dispatches that purported to be from Maryland, Texas and other states, when often he was far away, in New York. He fabricated comments. He concocted scenes. He lifted material from other newspapers and wire services. He selected details from photographs to create the impression he had been somewhere or seen someone, when he had not.

    And he used these techniques to write falsely about emotionally charged moments in recent history ...

WTP

I am literally laughing.

And whistling past the graveyard. We have taken these idiots far too lightly for far too long and now they rule over us. I have failed to see the humor in this for decades now.

John Lewis

I agree WTP,

I have been waiting patiently since applying for a green card in 2016. Maybe I’m the one being paranoid now but I wonder if my posts to various Conservative sites, which would undoubtedly rank me in the top 50 million or so deplorables, will come back to haunt me should my application ever reach the front of the line.

Uncle Mikey

Still the most powerful man in the world, with a massive number of motivated supporters. They should be scared. Had I called for a violent Marxist revolution, I would be too.

ruralbob

The folks who have been saying, "Trump is the greatest threat to democracy in my lifetime" are soon going to discover that the past four years have been a walk in the park.

Uma Thurmond's Feet

I have been deliberately avoiding the news since the beginning of the year, when I discovered that it adversely affected my blood pressure and kept me from doing productive work.

Which is why I didn't learn the details about what went on at the Capitol at the time. Plus, I knew the rule: wait four days until the details come out that contradict the breathless "reporting."

Which is why I was gobsmacked to learn that the protesters somehow managed to get into the Capitol building, which should be one of the most locked-down buildings in the country, next to the White House.

This, after the government spent millions on a visitors center and heightened security a few years back.

So how did they get in? There was some mention on Instapundit that it was a Capitol Police officer who literally unlocked and opened the door to them.

I'm sure the reporters will follow up on that story and learn how this happened. Right after they've asked Obama about that Oval Office meeting with Biden over the fake Russian dossier.

pst314

The folks who have been saying, "Trump is the greatest threat to democracy in my lifetime" are soon going to discover that the past four years have been a walk in the park.

I fully expect them to cling to their delusions for a long, long time.

Trimegistus

Trump's social media accounts will be restored. It is necessary for the libs. For the next four years, whenever PDT criticizes any policy of President Xi, er, Biden, the Washington Post and CNN will trumpet this new "assault on Democracy" in order to let their audience know that criticism of the viceroy is badthink.

pst314

Trump's social media accounts will be restored. It is necessary for the libs.

Well, we'll see. But lots of conservative opinion sites will be shut down. It's already started, as you know.

cayleygraph2015

I don't know what Donald Trump is doing, but thanks to our fearless, hard-hitting investigators in journalism, I know it involves Diet Coke and at least two scoops of ice cream.

NTSOG

Arnold Schwarzenegger has declared the incursion equivalent to Kristallnacht. Clearly he did not study the history of the Third Reich when a young lad in Austria. Kristallnacht was a direct attack by the SA on the Jews and everything Jewish. Perhaps he meant the burning of the Reichstag “widely believed to have been contrived by the newly formed Nazi government itself to turn public opinion against its opponents and to assume emergency powers”?

Further after the fire: ‘”Hitler urged President Paul von Hindenburg to issue an emergency decree to suspend civil liberties and pursue a ruthless confrontation” with the Communist Party of Germany. After the decree was issued, the government instituted mass arrests of communists, including all of the Communist Party’s parliamentary delegates. With their bitter rival communists gone and their seats empty, the Nazi Party went from having a plurality to a majority, thus enabling Hitler to consolidate his power.’

There seems little doubt that the Democrats will endeavour to cement their power by distorting the events at and concerning the riot and go after anyone they can tie to it with the same fervour shown by AH as he killed off his 'Red' rivals. Lies, lies and more lies will be the Democrat order of the day. Smirking Pelosi, shown on local TV news last night, was in her unctuous element. What a horrible person she is, so sincere in her insincerity.

a different james

I am ignorant regarding the operations of the Interwebs.

If the Tech Oligarchs stifle and remove conservatives from their sites and don't allow conservative blogs on their platforms, is there a real alternative?

I know that technically it is possible, but it is feasible? Is it likely that some individual would be able to create a hosting platform which could be a refuge for blogs and twitter-like applications?

If it could be done, would it then be at the mercy of the communications companies who provide mobile and cable broadband? Could they block such platforms (in the way that the British Govt was pressuring them to block porn sites?)

We know that large companies are increasingly following "woke" corporate practices. If, say, an organisation such as the American SPLC or the increasingly risible Amnesty International creates a list of "Nazi" websites/ blogs, and banks and communications companies used such a list as justification to deny service to such websites, can they effectively prevent them from operating and reaching large numbers of people?

Squires

...so sincere in her insincerity.

An animal is an animal is an animal, and the the only law an animal follows is Nature’s own: any means to an end.

http://cubanexilequarter.blogspot.com/2020/08/black-ribbon-day-2019-hitler-stalin.html?m=1

pst314

"I know that technically it is possible, but it is feasible?"

Getting kicked off a hosting platform: Anyone can buy set up their own web server and connect it to the internet.
Getting your app banned by Apple et al: You don't really need an app, I suppose, since much can be accomplished with a browser interface.

But what about when your ISP disconnects you? Can you find another ISP? Or will they all, one by one, get in line with the suppression of Wrong Think? Likely enough. And what if your bank cuts you off? With no credit card services, how do you collect payments and donations? Or buy food, for that matter?

The Good People at National Review will probably advise you that a true conservative would not regard the above as a matter for the courts but an opportunity to build your own internet.

pst314

http://cubanexilequarter.blogspot.com/2020/08/black-ribbon-day-2019-hitler-stalin.html?m=1

I await the Biden-Xi Pact.

Daniel Ream

If the Tech Oligarchs stifle and remove conservatives from their sites and don't allow conservative blogs on their platforms, is there a real alternative?

At the moment, yes. Gab.com was completely deplatformed, so they built their own physical data center and host their servers there, they have multiple redundant internet feeds and they accept payment in cash/postal money orders/bitcoin.

If it could be done, would it then be at the mercy of the communications companies who provide mobile and cable broadband? Could they block such platforms (in the way that the British Govt was pressuring them to block porn sites?)

Sadly, yes. Unlike web sites or social media services, Internet service providers actually are common carriers, and the infamous s.230 does not apply to them. In theory if they were to cut you off due to the nature of your content they could be sued. However, as a practical matter there are many ways they could invoke a termination of service without legal liability. There is also the matter of whether you might trust the courts to rule fairly if they did cut you off for ideological reasons and dared you to sue them.

If, say, an organisation such as the American SPLC or the increasingly risible Amnesty International creates a list of "Nazi" websites/ blogs, and banks and communications companies used such a list as justification to deny service to such websites, can they effectively prevent them from operating and reaching large numbers of people?

Yes. This has already happened to Gab.com. For now, they are surviving, but with Trump out of the White House and the Senate in Democratic hands the likelihood of a return to the days of the federal government's alphabet agencies being weaponized against its political opponents seems nigh. I expect that some form of bogus criminal charges will ultimately be laid against Andrew Torbe.

I have failed to see the humor in this for decades now.

I think a shooting civil war in 2021 is inevitable. The progressives seem to be doing everything in their power to start it.

NTSOG

@ DR: "I think a shooting civil war in 2021 is inevitable. The progressives seem to be doing everything in their power to start it."

The Democrats and their extremist socialist running mates seem oblivious to the needs and beliefs of hardworking, mainstream [white] US citizens whom they have been abusing and denigrating for years. They seem likely to continue to do so out of malice and also shear stupidity. They do not seem to understand [human] behaviour as they seek absolute power and continue to push conservatives into a corner. Pelosi's new language Bill is one such example of their extreme dictatorial mindset. There is always a point when people who are being punished for just being who they are - in this case mostly white, middle-class, Christian conservatives - will explode in anger.

Darleen

Consider this an open thread,

Newest member of Casa Click hard at work ...

Darleen

Arnold Schwarzenegger has declared the incursion equivalent to Kristallnacht.

Chucky Schumer from the Senate floor declared it the equivalent to Pearl Harbor.

I have yet to see one "reporter" ask the follow up question that "If so, Senator Schumer, we know Democrat President FDR's follow-up move was to move certain fellow American citizens to internment camps. Will that be the policy you will urge President Biden to pursue?"

WTP

I think a shooting civil war in 2021 is inevitable. The progressives seem to be doing everything in their power to start it.

Yeah. Great. From what I have seen of protests by the right, they haven't a fucking clue as to the problem space or the degree of difficulty as to what we are up against. I doubt a shooting war is a viable option.

WTP

Anyone with ideas on other countries as an option? I'm thinking Chile but don't know anything about them post-Pinochet. AIUI, post US Civil War American enclaves were founded in Uruguay...or Paraguay...or Parkay? Though I think that last one was a margarine, not a country. I think.

NTSOG

@ Darleen: "Democrat President FDR's follow-up move was to move certain fellow American citizens to internment camps."

The Democrats [though not their oft violent allies Antifa and BLM] are far too refined to set up internment camps. They'll arrange for deplorables and their ilk to be 'sent to Coventry' to use an old English saying. The unwashed and unwelcome [mostly white] politically incorrect common folk will simply be ostracised and, in a sense, interned in plain sight. I doubt that Democrats would insist on something so crass as making folks wear a yellow star as was mandated by another past socialist - Democrats have more class than that. Some even have huge refrigerators holding lots of boutique ice-cream.

Eric Brown

The Capitol invasion wasn't Kristallnacht - it was the Reichstag fire. Same level of bullshit, too. Kristallnacht already happened last summer in Minneapolis, Seattle, Portland, etc.

Captain Nemo

Newest member of Casa Click hard at work ...

D'awww. He/she's one adorable cat.

Daniel Ream

I doubt a shooting war is a viable option.

I think the Bundy clan would disagree with you.

What's happening right now is way worse than the Obama years. It's vast overreach. The masks are off. There's an much deeper awareness of the "they're not after me, they're after you - I'm just in their way" meme among the right.

Are we going to get Gettysburg and Atlanta? No; we're going to get Swamp Fox, Guy Ffawkes and Robin of Locksley. The oppression will happen at the law enforcement level rather than militarily; I think the Democrats are still aware that too many of the nation's armed forces would not obey an order to move against American citizens.

JuliaM

NTSOG:"The unwashed and unwelcome [mostly white] politically incorrect common folk will simply be ostracised and, in a sense, interned in plain sight."

Starting already, with no-fly listing?

Martin

if your peer group is one that requires endless, competitive signalling

Most of them are just acting.

David

Most of them are just acting.

That seems quite possible. Certainly, affectation and role-play are signatures of the woke, and of leftism more generally.

But here’s the thing. If, as Ms Vee and others claim, the thought of Donald Trump induces panic attacks, psychological crises, and difficulties breathing, for years, then, clearly, there’s something wrong with you. And if you feel a need to repeatedly and very publicly pretend that the thought of Donald Trump induces panic attacks, psychological crises, and difficulties breathing, for years - along with impotence and flaccidity - then… well, there’s something wrong with you.

As to which of the two compulsions is more dysfunctional, I’m not entirely sure.

Richard Cranium
The oppression will happen at the law enforcement level rather than militarily; I think the Democrats are still aware that too many of the nation's armed forces would not obey an order to move against American citizens.

Yeah, well, I wouldn't bet on that for active duty forces. The various state National Guards and Reserve forces should remember that they are citizens just as those whom "our betters" would have them suppress.

The CEVs (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M728_Combat_Engineer_Vehicle) and Bradley Fighing Vehicles used in Waco, Texas, against the Branch Davidians came from active duty Fort Hood units. That happened not even a year after I left active duty myself as part of the "we won the Cold War, so you should find something else to do" draw down. (I didn't and don't have an issue with reducing the size of the military when it doesn't need to be as large. Of course, the amount of money spent by Congress didn't go down; it just went to other people.)

Richard

They can riot, burn buildings in the center of cities, attack law enforcement with fire bombs and explosives, be arrested then released within an hour and not charged - but you, you are a terrorist.

During a pandemic and an election year, they can march for political and social causes - but, unlike the local strip club, you and your march and your church are non-essential.

Their words are broadcast far and wide, acclaimed as truth, repeated by all the right people - your public speech is suppressed or declared illegal. Start your own free speech web site? They will shut you down.

Elections are held - but your vote is not counted. Who will organize the next election? Who will count the votes?

Masters of large tech companies aggrandize their friends and political allies - but under cover of law prevent your public speech, you cannot even complain out loud. Whither Parler?

pst314

Arnold Schwarzenegger has declared the incursion equivalent to Kristallnacht....

And yet expressed no worries about the BLM/Antifa riots...or the Big Tech silencing of conservatives...or much of anything else.

Daniel Ream

Yeah, well, I wouldn't bet on that for active duty forces.

I didn't say "all", I said "many". Technically you don't have a civil war until you have military units shooting at other military units. Below that you have an armed insurrection or guerilla warfare.

The various law enforcement agencies have been thoroughly compromised by the progressives, we see that every day. Enough of the active duty military hasn't been that they'll stand down rather than obey Order 66 - but other units will, and when those units start shooting at each other the balloon really goes up.

I don't think the progressive leaders are apocalyptic; they know, I think, that in an actual shooting war the outcome is not at all certain. They'll keep the frog at a slow boil. Or try to; realistically what will happen is "some damn fool thing in the Balkans" that will light the powderkeg anyway.

pst314

Kristallnacht already happened last summer in Minneapolis, Seattle, Portland, etc.

This. A thousand times this.

pst314

Newest member of Casa Click hard at work ...

I do wonder what it is about keyboards that cats find so comfortable.

anon a mouse

Our Betters Breathe Deeply - Into A Paper Bag:

Hmm. Perhaps we would all be better served if said bag were a bit more, well... airtight?

Adam

I used to half-jest that the 2020 election would be about Refounding America. I guess I was not joking but didn’t know it.

Unfortunately, the new model seems to be along the lines of North Korea. Which was another one of my unfunny jokes.

Sue Sims

I do wonder what it is about keyboards that cats find so comfortable.

They don't find keyboards particularly comfortable: they occupy keyboards in the same way as they'll lie on a newspaper one's trying to read (in the days when newspapers were a thing). They love to assert dominance, and they want your attention - lying on things you're trying to use is a double whammy from their point of view. Remember, too, that slaves aren't allowed personal possessions: you need to be reminded of your place in the househol-

Sorry, got to go: one of our cats is demanding to be on the other side of the door.

pst314

They love to assert dominance, and they want your attention

Agreed, and yet they seem to lie on these things even when they're not being used. Have you noticed that?

PiperPaul

They love to assert dominance, and they want your attention

Cats or SJWs?

anon a mouse

Cats or SJWs?

Democrats.

ruralcounsel

They won't miss him at all, because they've already picked a substitute target. Us. They hate the half of the country that voted for him with just as much fervor. Trouble will be when they find out some folks won't tolerate that. Something moving with a lot more kinetic energy than a Twitter tweet will be coming back at them.

aelfheld

All in all, I'd rather be subject to the caprices of Felis catus than the impulses of the left/liberal/progressives.

WTP

I don't think the progressive leaders are apocalyptic; they know, I think, that in an actual shooting war the outcome is not at all certain.

Again, the whistling thing. This isn't the same world. They have demonized anyone to their right as Nazis. And that is NOT half the country. While I believe the election had significant problems. My own vote STILL shows not being counted and my GOP "Trump supporting" state senator, the only GOP pol to respond to me at all has gone dark on me. Study history. Study revolutions. These people mean to destroy us and guns are not going to help. Ask Kyle Rittenhous or George Zimmerman. Your gun is a one-time, one-use weapon. You cannot fight a war that way. And as Richard says, the military is not on our side. They take their orders from the Pentagon which is full on deep state. Wars are fought between the ears. Guns are only a means of reducing the problem space or intimidating it out of existence.

It is long past time for the right to wake the fuck up to the problem before us and address it loudly. Weapons will not do the trick and are more likely than not to make the situation worse. And stupid "occupy the capitol" events are far, far too risky for infiltration by leftist agitators or even right-wing nut jobs in cave-man garbI say this not as some sort of peace-nik, as I am mighty far from such. I say this watching what has happened, strategically, to this country, to the information media, to friends and relatives many of whom I previously thought rather "conservative" and sane. They believe what they are told to believe. Literal information to the contrary, video and transcripts of current events and court room evidence has ZERO effect on them. THIS is why they are going after the medium of free speech. They know where the battlefield now lies. They hold the upper hand with weapons and such. And they have molded the minds of many on the right to fall in line with their projected psychosis.

But yes, laugh if it makes you feel better.

Daniel Ream

Again, the whistling thing.

We're not actually disagreeing, WTP.

Study history. Study revolutions.

I have. They rarely end up the way the revolutionaries think. That's why I think this one will remain at a low simmer, executed by the public unionized and paramilitarized police forces rather than by the Democratic government giving the order to roll tanks.

And as Richard says, the military is not on our side.

Some of it is, some of it isn't. How much and which units line up on each side is completely unknown, and will be unknown until the shooting starts. I think the Democrats know that pulling that particular trigger creates chaos they will not be in control of.

Baceseras

just acting

I have considered, our whole life is like a Play : wherein every man, forgetfull of himselfe, is in travaile with expression of another. Nay, wee so insist in imitating others, as we cannot (when it is necessary) return to ourselves : like Children, that imitate the vices of Stammerers so long, till at last they become such ; and make the habit to another nature, as it is never forgotten.
Ben Jonson's Timber 
Steve E

We certainly live in interesting times. This thread bounces from cat hijinx to the possibility of civil war in the US. Living life in the abstract.

windbag

Anyone with ideas on other countries as an option?

Costa Rica? I've heard the weather is eternally spring there. Not sure about the politics or safety. I'd prefer to splinter off and reboot the Republic, since the Constitution was a pretty good blueprint for success while we followed it. Get rid of the 16th and 17th amendments for starters.

Pooklord

Ben Jonson's Timber

Wow. People should be reading more Ben Jonson.
Christopher Marlowe too, come to think of it.

David

just acting

They are playing a game. They are playing at not playing a game. If I show them I see they are, I shall break the rules and they will punish me. I must play their game, of not seeing I see the game.

The above, from R. D. Laing’s Knots, came to mind.

Nikw211

"Here are seven facts" facts bear in mind, that according to the BBC "you need to know" about Antifa.

These "facts" include informing the reader that "secret Antifa groups in Oregon ... said they come from a variety of political backgrounds but they were united in their opposition to fascism".

Meanwhile in Portland ... something wicked this way comes.

pst314

"secret Antifa groups in Oregon ... said they come from a variety of political backgrounds"

Very diverse: Marxists, Marxist-Leninists, Stalinists, Maoists, Castroites, Pol Pot worshippers, Ceaușescu disciples, and dog-fuckers.

Sam Duncan

Completely normal”.

It's a step up from sandwich boards. But then it is the 21st Century.

pst314

It's a step up from sandwich boards. But then it is the 21st Century.

So...Bradford Council is telling the public that they have more money than they need?

I am confident that you could put three quarters of the government "workers" on slow freighters to China and not only would essential government services not break down, everything would get much better.

pst314

"facts bear in mind, that according to the BBC "you need to know" about Antifa."

So the BBC is reminding us--again--that they are indeed a Stalinist organization.

asiaseen

Completely normal

Given that this is Bradford, the twitter comment anyhow no good if it’s all in English is apposite. But, then, I guess the council is reaching out to a minority group.

David

“Here are seven facts” facts bear in mind, that according to the BBC “you need to know” about Antifa.

At some point you have to wonder, is it really credulity and incuriousness, or just a willingness to regurgitate demonstrable lies?

Vagabond

I think the Democrats are still aware that too many of the nation's armed forces would not obey an order to move against American citizens

If they're anything like the Victorian police, they will take to persecuting their own citizens with no hesitation at all. The Dems need not worry on that account.

David

Speaking of the mighty and fearless Antifa.

David

Behold their mightiness.

You see, harassing booksellers and their customers, and demanding that books of investigative journalism be expunged from public consciousness, is, we’re assured, fighting “active fascism.”

This is what happens when you don’t discipline misbehaving children.

Connor

demanding that books of investigative journalism be expunged from public consciousness, is, we’re assured, fighting “active fascism.”

lefties project.

Nikw211

At some point you have to wonder, is it really credulity and incuriousness, or just a willingness to regurgitate demonstrable lies?

One of the more preposterous claims made by Antifa, one unquestioningly repeated by that BBC article (save for the one almost imperceptible caveat "Antifa members we spoke to"), is this:

    They said if violence does occur, it’s as a form of self-defence.

To have the temerity to even consider making this claim, let alone actually making it with all the evidence to the contrary, is a brazen act of shameless lying.

The alleged justification is little better, possibly still worse:

    They also make historical arguments to justify their position. For instance, they ask, what if opponents of the German Nazi Party had been more forceful in their opposition in the 1930s, could World War Two and the Holocaust have been averted?

What this absurd "argument" completely ignores, of course, is that the Germany of the 1920s and 1930s in which Hitler rose to power was one which for a long time was riven with sectarian violence between Revolutionary Communists and the Nazis.

More importantly, it was the very real and altogether quite rational fears of Bolshevism that actually helped Hitler's rise to power since for many, in the early years at least, the NSDAP would have appeared to be the lesser of two evils.

The intransigence of the Revolutionary Communists and the original Antifa can therefore be seen as actually having hastened Hitler's rise to power, not preventing it.

It is also worth noting, as Michael Burleigh does in his The Third Reich: A New History the many examples of Bolshevik street fighters switching allegiance and swelling the ranks of the Sturmabteilung so close were they to each other in terms of mentality and political views.

Nikw211

Speaking of the mighty and fearless Antifa.

Meth has a lot to answer for.

John Lewis

“Willingness” to regurgitate demonstrable lies.

How about positively gagging to do it?

pst314

Meth has a lot to answer for.

Marx has a lot to answer for...and American school teachers.

a different james

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/could-trump-go-bankrupt-

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9137075/Deutsche-Bank-sever-ties-Donald-Trump-Trump-organization-owes-340-million-loans.html

A couple of articles which seem unconcerned that banks are anxious to cut their links with Trump.

The gloating tone in the Speccie article seems strange- is that paper not despised by the Left? Do they not see that banks and other institutions that are willing to promote and pander to the Woke-lings will be emboldened when they destroy Trump and will move on to new targets?

Likewise with the Mail?

This is Deutsche Bank we are talking about- a bank which I suspect applies its moral scruples selectively.

Also from the Mail article- re Signature Bank@#

'We have never before commented on any political matter and hope to never do so again,' Signature said in its statement. The bank will not do business in the future with any members of Congress who voted to disregard the electoral college, the spokesperson said.

If the Mail and the Speccie cannot see beyond kicking Trump at this point we truly are fcuked.

Sue Sims

On Twitter, an American chap has just lost his father to Covid: deep sympathy...until he tweets: "My beautiful 87 year old Mom just became one of the 360,000 victims of Donald Trump...."

And some of the responses suggest that people should bring a class action against the President for - wait for it - genocide. Unbelievable.

David

And some of the responses suggest that people should bring a class action against the President for - wait for it - genocide.

We live in dementing times.

Karl

"The bank will not do business in the future with any members of Congress who voted to disregard the electoral college"

You fucking WHAT?
No dogs, no blacks, no Irish, no Republicans is it now?

On a different totalitarian note - Signal or Telegram?

Daniel Ream

We live in dementing times.

A time is coming when men will go mad, and when they see someone who is not mad, they will attack him, saying, 'You are mad; you are not like us.'

Sporkatus

voted to disregard the electoral college

Deliberate misrepresentation of the vote or pure, wallowing ignorance? Both?

I can't help but see all the efforts of the nominal right to separate the voters from Trump as being akin to a mob family kidnapping a woman back from the man she married to get out of the family business. Desperate, determined, in their mind certain to succeed, because "well, she just had her head wrong, distracted by that guy". Utterly farcical, but grimly serious at the same time. And much like the mob family, it's not her cousin, the made man who despises her, but her brothers - who see her as *belonging* to the mob and a personal rebuke in leaving. In extension, their property.

Their delusion that burning the marital home and driving the husband into flight will solve the issue of their sister *not wanting to be surrounded by crime anymore*, nor indeed have anything to do with them... it's a powerful delusion.

ComputerLabRat

Wait - what? The Electoral College is good now? I thought we were doing away with the Electoral College because Hillary! won the popular vote. Didn't we just have a 4-year temper tantrum on how evil the Electoral College is?

David

I’ll just leave this here.

WTP

Elections are held - but your vote is not counted. Who will organize the next election? Who will count the votes?

BTW, as I related here a couple of times now, according to our elections office web site, my and wife's votes have not been counted. I was in contact with my state senator (GOP and supposedly pro-Trump)regarding this. He claimed to see the exact opposite of what I see. I send him screen shots, he sends me just his word. Late last year he said that perhaps Icould come to his office and verify. I was good with that but then his wife was having heart surgery at the end of the year and this would have to wait until the beginning of the year. Heard nothing from him. Sent him a follow up note on the 7th asking how his wife was doing and if perhaps there's someone elseI could work with on this. It is now the 12th and he's gone dark on me.

Sporkatus

Out: "Taking children away from often unrelated, criminal and even rapine adults using them as magic talismans to cross the border is wrong"
In: "Taking away the children of tens of millions of people because their parents voted wrong is so hot"

ComputerLabRat

I’ll just leave this here.

From the comments at the link: Says Trump's close to hitler right after stating he wants to put Republicans in "re-education " camps

One question modern people have is how could the German people could have agreed to put their fellow citizens in concentration camps. How could that have happened? This is how it happened. First you convince the people that a certain group of people who believe differently are horrible, evil Others, and to blame for all the problems in your country and your life. You don't start out calling for their extermination, but you sure as heck end up doing exactly that. Then, in Germany, it was Jewish people. Now, in the US, it is Trump supporters. And it won't stop with Trump supporters. Nor will it stop with Republicans in general.

Steve E

Now, in the US, it is Trump supporters. And it won't stop with Trump supporters. Nor will it stop with Republicans in general.

The rhetoric from the left regarding "evil" Republicans has grown increasingly hyperbolic beginning with Bush Sr. and culminating in Trump. Where can they can possibly go from here? Once you've played the double-extra-bad-Hitler card there's nothing left to, ahem, carry the right tone. The "othering" has reached a point where a lefty can open re-education camps, punch a Nazi, etc. all in good conscience. They think they'd be like Oskar Schindler when it's far more likely they'd be like John Demjanjuk.

Darleen Click

One question modern people have is how could the German people could have agreed to put their fellow citizens in concentration camps. How could that have happened?

Dennis Prager on The Good German

The ease with which tens of millions of Americans have accepted irrational, unconstitutional and unprecedented police state-type restrictions on their freedoms, including even the freedom to make a living, has been, to understate the case, sobering.

The same holds true for the acceptance by most Americans of the rampant censorship on Twitter and all other major social media platforms. Even physicians and other scientists are deprived of freedom of speech if, for example, they offer scientific support for hydroxychloroquine along with zinc to treat COVID-19 in the early stages. Board-certified physician Dr. Vladimir Zelenko, who has saved hundreds of COVID-19 patients from suffering and/or death, has been banned from Twitter for publicizing his lifesaving hydroxychloroquine and zinc protocol.

Half of America, the non-left half, is afraid to speak their minds at virtually every university, movie studio and large corporation — indeed, at virtually every place of work. Professors who say anything that offends the left fear being ostracized if they have tenure and being fired if they do not. People are socially ostracized, publicly shamed and/or fired for differing with Black Lives Matter, as America-hating and white-hating a group as has ever existed. And few Americans speak up. On the contrary, when BLM protestors demand that diners outside of restaurants raise their fists to show their support of BLM, nearly every diner does.

So, then, who are we to condemn the average German who faced the Gestapo if he didn’t salute Hitler or the average Russian who faced the NKVD (the secret police and intelligence agency that preceded the KGB) if he didn’t demonstrate sufficient enthusiasm for Stalin? Americans face the left’s cancel culture, but not left-wing secret police or reeducation camps. (At least not yet — I have little doubt the left would send outspoken conservatives to reeducation camps if they could.)

cayleygraph2015
On Twitter, an American chap has just lost his father to Covid: deep sympathy...until he tweets: "My beautiful 87 year old Mom just became one of the 360,000 victims of Donald Trump...."
How many of those who believe this will later use genuine credentials in other fields to promote something they know is false, but which will hurt those nasty conservatives, as revenge for the "victims"? How many of those who say there are 360,000 victims know better, but say it anyway, as revenge for something else those nasty conservatives did in the past? How many of those past deeds were also benign, but spun as nasty to avenge deeds further past?

How many haven't even noticed this is happening?

Sam

They'll keep the frog at a slow boil.

Everything will rumble and stumble along on its current trajectory until a military defeat (in the inevitable proxy war we fight for China/Corporate interests) and/or stock market crash. Of course, an different Black Swan event could occur, but normies wants to claw back a sense of, well, normalcy after the past year and have been all but promised as much since the health-facism has been instituted. So I predict people burying their heads real, real deep up until the moment shrapnel flies.

FlynPigRanch

"Impotence and flaccidity" Birth control for the left. Excellent!

Lord of the Fleas

"...then the prospect of losing that object of hate, and status, must be a cause of… mixed feelings."

Whenever I see a reference to this idea, I always think back to this scene from the end of the TV movie Conspiracy, with Kenneth Branagh as Reinhard Heydrich and Stanley Tucci as Adolf Eichmann. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZMuOhuB3Wo

Just like the dog that tries to catch the car, what will they do if they ever succeed?

APL

And some of the responses suggest that people should bring a class action against the President for - wait for it - genocide.

What about the leaders of Belgium, Italy, France, UK, Spain ? - all with "COVID deaths per million" numbers higher or comparable to the U.S.

Sam

APL - hopefully during the next calendar year those still stubbornly fixated on the notion that the Left has any standards for their own behavior and reasoning will finally shed that dangerous canard and understand that sudden, kinetic force is the only thing that will stop their insanity. No particular set of words, no presentation of evidence, no highlighting of hypocrisy - nothing - will satiate their lust for money, power and peer-prestige.

I'm sort of cramping the raison d'être of Chateau Thompson but honestly, we must find how to reject their premises outright and stop shadow boxing an enemy who's not even in the room, much less willing to fight in the same ring.

svh

Impotence and flaccidity

Isn't that an OMD album?

David

Isn’t that an OMD album?

Heh.

pst314

Never heard of OMD. For a moment I thought you'd written OMB (Office of Management and Budget.)

David

Never heard of OMD.

Somewhat earnest electropop from the Eighties. Big with students, I believe. Hence titles such as Architecture and Morality. Or indeed Impotence and Flaccidity.

pst314

I am skeptical about the importance of being earnest, David.

Steve E

Never heard of OMD.

If you saw "Pretty in Pink", you know OMD. They were Flock of Seagulls without the hair.

David

[ Rummages for playlist of ancient electropop. ]

Steve E

[ Rummages for playlist of ancient electropop. ]

[ Examines musty corner of basement. Oh look what I found. ]

The Human League. Gary Numan. Limahl. Modern English. Re-Flex. The Fixx. ABC. Blue Peter. Bronski Beat. Buggles. China Crisis. Depeche Mode. Duran Duran. Fun Boy Three. Haysi Fantayzee. Naked Eyes. New Musik. Orchestral Manoeuvres in the Dark. Spandau Ballet. Wang Chung. a-ha. Adam Ant. Berlin. The Cars.

I'm so ashamed.

WTP

honestly, we must find how to reject their premises outright and stop shadow boxing an enemy who's not even in the room, much less willing to fight in the same ring.

This.

David

[ Rummaging intensifies. ]

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