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May 20, 2021

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Mags

*saves for commute*

David

*saves for commute*

Still good, and sometimes darkly funny.

pst314

Almost 2 hours long--that's wonderful. It's almost impossible to say anything in a 15 minute interview. About an hour is really necessary. I greatly miss Milt Rosenberg's radio show in which he'd talk with a guest for 2 hours. It would be wonderful if Peterson and Dalrymple would do this again whenever they find topics they'd like to delve deeply into.

David
I used to write for a left-wing magazine, the New Statesman, as well as the Spectator, which is conservative… and I used to go for lunch there, sometimes, and we would have a discussion. And I met a very distinguished BBC broadcaster, in the days when the BBC was not terrible. And he said he’d read me, and then he said, “I wanted to meet you because I wanted to ask you something.” He said, “Do you make it up?”

Still working my way through it.

David

Another bit:

I was trying to persuade intellectuals that a lot of their world outlook was bad and was doing harm rather than good. So that the destruction of the family, which rich people can perhaps survive, is devastating for people who need social solidarity more than anybody else.

At the risk of flattering myself, this came to mind.

Karl

That Jordan Peterson really is an intellectual powerhouse - beacon of thoughtful integrity in a dark and stupid world.
On the recommendation of Benjamin Boyce I watched Peterson interview Paul Rossi who is currently being pilloried by Grace Church High School for standing up to the racist cult of Woke.

It's like sitting in on a therapy session. The depth and perspicacity of Peterson's personal analysis is really quite awe-inspiring. I was genuinely moved.

sH2

Dalrymple swearing. :-)

David

Dalrymple swearing. :-)

Heh. I shouldn’t think he gets much practice. But yes, the prison anecdotes are some of the funnier moments.

Daniel Ream

I was trying to persuade intellectuals that a lot of their world outlook was bad and was doing harm rather than good.

I'm reminded of Thomas Sowell's quote that you only find intellectuals in arenas - academe, QUANGOs, etc. - where ideas can survive without actually being correct.

John Lewis

Dalrymple’s essays are a consistent highlight on the Takimag site.

Joe Ego

In other words, you couldn’t distinguish between this case of need, which was nobody’s fault, and someone who took drugs and set fire to his house in a state of intoxication. There was no difference.

This is the difference between you, as an individual, giving to the poor versus just paying your taxes and expecting some government functionary to get on with it.

pst314

Dalrymple’s essays are a consistent highlight on the Takimag site.

He also appears regularly in the New Criterion, City Journal, and the New English Review.

He had a column in Roger Scruton's Salisbury Review until August 2019, but you can read the archives here.

pst314

David, could you please poke the spam filter? I made the mistake of writing a comment containing four hyperlinks.

Geezer

Jordan Peterson interviews Theodore Dalrymple.

I've only got through a little more than an hour, so far.
I hope to watch it all (with naps in between).

My take:
Jordan Peterson talks too much.
The interviewer should let the interviewee do most of the talking.

pst314

I agree that Jordan Peterson should have let Theodore Dalrymple talk more--the Platonic ideal would be to let him talk until he has said everything he wants to say on the current question. And yet at the same time I found everything Jordan Peterson said to be interesting and useful too. Both being psychologists--Peterson a clinical psychologist and Dalrymple being a psychiatrist--they could contribute equally. My hope is that they each will come up with lists of things they felt they did not finish exploring, and get together again to tackle them.

David

David, could you please poke the spam filter?

Freed.

pst314

Thank you, David.

Alex DeWynter
My take: Jordan Peterson talks too much. The interviewer should let the interviewee do most of the talking.

Much as I generally agree with Dr. Peterson, yes. I'm pretty sure I've seen somewhere a video of him discouraging trampling your conversational partner's thoughts with your own.

NateWhilk
My take: Jordan Peterson talks too much. The interviewer should let the interviewee do most of the talking.
I remember a video in which he himself mentions he's been told he really likes to talk.

He's still recovering from the benzodiazepines that nearly killed him, and he's also said he's in constant pain. He's mentioned akasthisia, uncontrollable restlessness, which could be another aftereffect. My wild guess is his outpourings of interviews are a result of that. Unless you watch them to the exclusion of almost all other media and other activity, they're impossible to keep up with. And it's starting to look like too much exposure, which isn't a good thing.

Trevor

The writer Dr Daniels describes as coming from the Left and documenting similar topics is Nick Davies. I'd recommend his book 'Dark Heart: The shocking truth about hidden Britain', but be warned that I found it a harrowing read.

pst314

Thank you, Trevor. You saved me going back and searching the interview for that mention.

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