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May 11, 2021

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pst314

I'm not sure what the worst part of that video was. The crazy lady or the crazy spectators. They can see she's the problem and still they hector the police...

Notice the state of the neighborhood: security grates or roll-down steel shutters on all the windows. This is a place where you can expect to be burglarized or robbed by the locals unless you take extreme measures to protect yourself.

Theodore Dalrymple has repeatedly observed that poverty does not cause crime, but rather the reverse: criminal behavior cause poverty. The bystanders are only marginally less stupid than the woman. But we can be certain that they will all complain endlessly, all their lives, that they are victims.

anon a mouse

extra-crispy cod and curry sauce. ]

Probably better than creamed chipped beef on toast.

David

Actually, the local chippy is quite good, as chippies go. You can phone in advance for fish fried to order. A wide selection of, er, side dishes. They even have fairly posh bags.

#Classy

pst314

Probably better than creamed chipped beef on toast.

You were in the service?

pst314

[ Sudden hankering for extra-crispy cod and curry sauce. ]

Now I have a craving for fish and chips. And the restaurants won't be serving lunch for hours.

pst314

They even have fairly posh bags.

You mean they haven't already been used?

David

You mean they haven’t already been used?

No, they’re quite respectable. When they first appeared, the locals were terribly impressed.

pst314

That reminds me, David: I've heard that curry shops have largely replaced fish and chip shops in England. To what extent is that true? Do you have a clear impression of what percent shift?

David

I’ve heard that curry shops have largely replaced fish and chip shops in England. To what extent is that true?

My impression is that they coexist quite happily. But I don’t patrol the nation’s streets of an evening monitoring these things.

pst314

To clarify, what I read was (more or less) that, say, 50 years ago fish and chips shops were everywhere and were perhaps the top choice for fast takeaway food, but that today there are more curry shops than fish and chips shops, because Brits have happily embraced that culinary import.

pst314

Theodore Dalrymple has repeatedly observed that poverty does not cause crime, but rather the reverse: criminal behavior cause poverty.

Argh, I should have written "tends to", because there are no absolutes: Some people will resort to crime because they are poor, but mostly it's the other way around.

David

Theodore Dalrymple has repeatedly observed that poverty does not cause crime, but rather the reverse: criminal behavior [tends to] cause poverty.

The assumption that poverty causes crime – often mouthed by people who’ve never been poor or lived in a rough part of town - always struck me as rather glib and insulting to anyone who’s ever been short of cash yet somehow managed not to break into the neighbours’ houses or engage in an evening of stabbing and car-jacking. The habitually criminal tend to make choices, and to have personalities, that result in poverty – common traits including poor impulse control, low IQ, and pathological selfishness.

pst314

Well said, David.

From the Wikipedia page for Theodore Dalrymple:

"Poverty does not explain aggressive, criminal and self-destructive behaviour. In an African slum you will find among the very poor, living in dreadful circumstances, dignity and decency in abundance, which are painfully lacking in an average English suburb, although its inhabitants are much wealthier."

David

Theodore Dalrymple has repeatedly observed that poverty does not cause crime, but rather the reverse: criminal behavior [tends to] cause poverty.

Not entirely unrelated.

pst314

Not entirely unrelated.

David, in light of your wide-ranging and detailed explorations of so many social dysfunctions, you could name your blog "Not Entirely Unrelated". Not saying you should, but the idea makes me smile.

pst314

Not entirely unrelated.

From that link:

As so often, it’s interesting to contrast Mr Matthews’ assumptions with one’s own experience of growing up in the rougher parts of town. Our fretful Guardianista doesn’t seem to understand antisocial behaviour, why it tends to be concentrated in those areas, and why people spend so much time and effort trying to get away from it.

I would welcome a societal shift away from escaping antisocial people in favor of expelling antisocial people.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

... extra-crispy cod and curry sauce...

Curry sauce ? What sort of new age fusion barbarity is that - worse than putting cheese on it which is specifically named as a Crime Against Humanity by The Hague.

...creamed chipped beef on toast.

More fancy talk. Shit On A Shingle, as served in the finest of MKTs and mess halls (or DFACs as they fancy themselves nowadays so as not to offend the sensibilities of the younger set).

pst314

Shit On A Shingle, as served in the finest of MKTs and mess halls

That was what I immediately thought of when I read "creamed chipped beef on toast".

pst314

In other news, this may be a harbinger of pandering--"adapting" Tolkien so as to never confuse or offend East Asians: "As for how many people need to watch Lord of the Rings? A lot. A giant, global audience needs to show up to it as appointment television, and we are pretty confident that that will happen."

David

I would welcome a societal shift away from escaping antisocial people in favor of expelling antisocial people.

Again, not entirely unrelated.

And Ms Williams’ pieties, mouthed from a safe distance, are not at all uncommon among her ‘progressive’ peers.

Governor Squid

while on his way to Anger Management classes.

That newsman should win an award for keeping a straight face while delivering that closing.

Not entirely unrelated.

One of the things which drew me to this place was how quickly the regulars stuck a knife in the claim that "poverty and affluence are two sides of the same coin." It's astonishing and depressing that so few people understand a basic concept like "if nobody does productive work, there is no wealth." Finding an oasis of such people was a welcome relief.

Steve E

50 years ago fish and chips shops were everywhere and were perhaps the top choice for fast takeaway food, but that today there are more curry shops than fish and chips shops

I thought the kebab shop was king. The number of kebab shops is almost equal to Chippies and Curry shops combined.

pst314

Thanks, Steve.

pst314

From the "he dindu nuffin!" files, here is another example, courtesy of the Huffington Post, of the pathologies that cause poverty: Family of thug angry with good samaritan who shot him

The family members of a robbery suspect that held a store employee at gunpoint in Alabama are lashing out at the Good Samaritan who shot him and stopped the robbery.

Adric White, 18, was shot five times after he allegedly tried to hold up a Family Dollar store in Mobile on Nov. 12.
...
“If [the customer’s] life was not in danger, if no one had a gun up to him, if no one pointed a gun at him - what gives him the right to think that it’s okay to just shoot someone?” a relative, who wished to remain anonymous, told FOX10. “You should have just left the store and went wherever you had to go in your car or whatever.”

But when the suspect pulled out a gun at about 5:30 p.m., the Good Samaritan did too.

“He had the gun to his head. He had him on his knees,” said the Good Samaritan, who wished to remain anonymous. “I drew my gun on him and I said ‘Hey don’t move.’ At that point he swung around and before he had a chance to aim the gun at me I fired. I didn’t want to shoot him.”

(end quote)

I'll go on record that the entire family are feral beasts and should be treated as such. Unfit for civilization. What's more, they are the true face of Black Lives Matter.

pst314

Uh-oh, where did my comment go? David, could you please rattle the spam filter?

Richard Cranium

Actually, mess halls were called DFACs in the early 1980s.

As the HHC XO of an armor battalion stationed in Erlangen, FRG, I had the wonderful extra duty of Dining Facility Officer.

David

David, could you please rattle the spam filter?

Freed.

pst314

Thank you, David. I wonder if my error was to put two links in a single comment. Wouldn't it be nice if spam filters would log the reasons that comments were flagged?

David

Unfit for civilization.

As we’ve seen many times, some people appear to be incapable of shame.

“Yes, he’s robbin’ y’all. OH WELL.”

Again, pathological selfishness. Whereby other people exist as little more than prey, from whom things can be taken. As if robbing people at gunpoint, putting them in fear of losing their lives, were on the same moral plane as being in someone’s way in a supermarket aisle.

WTP

It's astonishing and depressing that so few people understand a basic concept like "if nobody does productive work, there is no wealth."

This. Well, this and the similar idea that wealth is a static thing such that for one person to become wealthier, another must become poorer. Such is the stupid underlying much of what I learned even in my AP history classes in school. Many, many professors teaching today, even some conservative..."conservative" types, will still assert this. Lately they do it in more dressed up convoluted sophistry.

If there is ONE thing that I think would do the most to change the world and put a break on soooo much of the leftist idiocy that we see today, it would be an effort to address this ignorant misunderstanding. If even half the money spent on conservative..."conservative" political campaigns were instead redirected to evangelizing the proper understanding of wealth and where it comes from to the general public it would do far more good than attempts to implement free market policies from political power down, as seems to be what most conservatives..."conservatives" seem to want to do. Because they're not interested in real change. They're far more interested in advancing their own popularity, image, and especially power.

Alex DeWynter
Now I have a craving for fish and chips. And the restaurants won't be serving lunch for hours.

Same here. And the closest H Salt is 9 miles away.

Hywel

shot five times after he allegedly tried to hold up a Family Dollar store

http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/013959.html

Augusto and his employees tried to get back to business as usual yesterday, although it wasn’t easy. When a woman came to place a candle outside the shop, J.B. angrily kicked it across the pavement.

“Who’s this for?” he demanded of the startled woman. “For the guy who died? F——him!”

pst314

When a woman came to place a candle outside the shop, J.B. angrily kicked it across the pavement.

Good for him. No tears for dead vermin.

Link to original NY Post here.

ccscientist

At the grocery store, I have noticed that men are much quicker to get out of your way when you need to pass them in the aisle. In other words, women are more oblivious or rude if you will.

Northwestern U is indeed full of rich kids who are probably rude but they are rude to everyone. The paranoid woke assume that any rudeness is about race, when rudeness is ubiquitous.

a different james

... extra-crispy cod and curry sauce...

*turns and walks away wordlessly, disappointment etched on face*

NTSOG

ccscientist: "At the grocery store, I have noticed that men are much quicker to get out of your way when you need to pass them in the aisle."

In public settings I take care as a male to ensure that I do not enter the personal space of any woman or child given the current mantra that all women must be believed if they claim sexual assault and also the popular notion that all men are potential sexual predators, paedophiles and rapists. I will, if women are blocking an isle in a super market, reverse course and take the long way around to avoid coming close to the women. It's for the same reason I would never go near a young child who appeared to have wandered off from its parents at a shopping centre or other public venue even though I was once a teacher and was well used to managing children in my professional care in public. Long ago I also decided I would never render direct assistance to any lone [young] woman whose car had broken down in the country - I simply do not trust [young] modern women at all. I might stop 50 yards down the road and ask if help was coming, but that's all. I would not go near the woman. There have been far too many false claims brought against men just trying to help women.

For instance: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7339691/Woman-falsely-accused-Good-Samaritan-sexual-assault-jailed.html

pst314

At the grocery store, I have noticed that men are much quicker to get out of your way when you need to pass them in the aisle. In other words, women are more oblivious or rude if you will.

If I recall correctly, women tend to have less spatial sense than men, and do less well at geometry. (Am I right, or is my memory faulty?) I have speculated that this might explain that obliviousness.

pst314

For instance: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7339691/Woman-falsely-accused-Good-Samaritan-sexual-assault-jailed.html

5 months in prison is far too short a sentence. It should have been the same as a rapist's sentence.

given the current mantra that all women must be believed if they claim sexual assault

There are women who are now dead to me because of their advocacy of that evil doctrine.

PiperPaul

women tend to have less spatial sense than men, and do less well at geometry

Well there's that old saw of them mistaking 4" for 8" all the time...

Farnsworth M Muldoon

A handy concise checklist to check your privilege.

NTSOG

"Well there's that old saw of them mistaking 4" for 8" all the time..."

I have always believed that this is the basis for sizing/labeling in the women's fashion industry.

Herp McDerp

given the current mantra that all women must be believed if they claim sexual assault

In my book, that poor guy's wife is a POS, too.

WTP

For instance: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7339691/Woman-falsely-accused-Good-Samaritan-sexual-assault-jailed.html

Why is his face plastered on the page, very clear, but she is blurred?

NTSOG

"Why is his face plastered on the page, very clear, but she is blurred?"

I can only presume she is considered a shy, retiring and helpless bint who must be protected from and does not deserve to be victimised by the System, i.e. The Patriarchy - male bastards all. [She'll be doing all her own car repairs for the rest of her life.]

Governor Squid

I will, if women are blocking an aisle in a super market, reverse course and take the long way around to avoid coming close to the women.

Oh, screw that! I'm more than happy to give them a loud and bored-sounding s'il vous plaît to encourage them to wake up from whatever label they're squinting at or whatever Tiktok they're watching. I've found it to be amazingly effective -- the volume and tone demand immediate attention, but it's French, so I'm obviously a classy guy.

I'm not one to talk about "one simple trick" or "this amazing lifehack," but having discovered how well this works, I've never looked back!

WTP

I'm not one to talk about "one simple trick" or "this amazing lifehack," but having discovered how well this works, I've never looked back!

And in other regards as well. May the Lord bless you and keep you and shine His countenance upon you!

sk60

It occurs to me that if your immediate environment is one in which race-based claims aren’t subject to challenge or scepticism, even when sweeping and rather dubious, it must be quite unnerving to encounter these things for the first time.

"When you're accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression." :-)

Mr. Saturn

I guess Genesis was right, the only thing about us is the way that we walk.

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