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July 12, 2021

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pst314

I plan to have already eaten for the next ten years.

Governor Squid

Human beings, possibly even social animals in general, have a fundamental, evolutionary desire to contribute to the betterment of their society.

I'm not sure about that. A four-year-old is a human being in its natural state: self-centered, greedy, impulsive, impatient, prone to fits of violence when frustrated, and endlessly demanding. It takes a dozen years of relentless training to turn a man into a gentle-man. When you raise five generations on electronics and neglect, you shouldn't be surprised if the result is a few million people with no perception of the social contract.

As you observe, it's only possible due to the absurd levels of wealth generated by those who have come before. When the momentum runs out and the bills come due, I feel there will be a lot of people meeting the Gods of the Copybook Headings for the first time. And boy howdy, won't they be surprised!

Karl

desire to contribute to the betterment of their society.

Possibly. But then I suppose my question is - "which comes first, the desire or the need?"
And if you remove the need. Would you still have the desire?

pst314

They looted every store but the bookstore.

WTP

A four-year-old is a human being in its natural state: self-centered, greedy, impulsive, impatient, prone to fits of violence when frustrated, and endlessly demanding. It takes a dozen years of relentless training to turn a man into a gentle-man.

My experience with four year olds is limited mostly to having been one. Though I have had experience with a certain six year old who needed to be given "helping" tasks so that his uncle and Papop could get the BBQ grill assembled. That he didn't grow up to become the most ambitious young man I attribute to his disinterested father. But yes, discipline is a huge factor which weighs into the process. This factor I would give very little biological evolutionary credit. I do not believe discipline is innate. The desire to be a valuable part of the group however, is the potential that is being wasted.

Also, you're missing my point about their efforts being misguided. Though to my fault, "betterment" in an absolute sense is the wrong word. Perhaps "advancement" or "dominance" would be better choices of words.

my question is - "which comes first, the desire or the need?"

The chicken is coming from inside the egg…ok, douchebag humor aside, with welfare we have removed the need. And what do we get for it? Riots, burning, looting, torn down statues, and on a more "civilized" level, social justice warriors, CRT, feminazis, etc. The desire is and always will be there. They key is how it gets channeled and by whom.

WTP

They looted every store but the bookstore.

There's a joke about Abbie Hoffman in that story somewhere. Probably not worth the effort though.

pst314

I think you're right: Abbie Hoffman is largely and deservedly forgotten.

Richard Cranium
I bet they taste just like calamari.

They'll taste like chitterlings.

Mike D

And the people gathered in these rooms…are unable to reconcile their professed desire to reach out to the Average Joe, whom they appear to disdain, with a compulsion to assert their own status and ideological credentials, their own superiority…And while referring to themselves as “insurgents.”

That.

David

They looted every store but the bookstore.

Not entirely unrelated:

78% of Grade Four learners in South Africa cannot read for basic meaning in any national language. In other words, eight out of every 10 nine-year-olds in South Africa are currently functionally illiterate.

Basic literacy among South African adults is now in decline.

Karl

There's a joke about Abbie Hoffman in that story

Ha - synchronicity!
I was just watching a Blackpilled video which features Michael Shamberg who interviewed Hoffman for In Hiding: A Conversation with Abbie Hoffman.
Blackpilled does interesting work.

Karl

Hmmm. Seems the spam filter dislikes bit shoot?

David

Freed.

pst314

Basic literacy among South African adults is now in decline.

I'm surprised that basic literacy was ever as high as 90%: After the ANC's terror war against education, burning to death kids who went to school, I expected a much lower number.

Daniel Ream

with welfare we have removed the need

An old mentor of mine once quipped "Being stupid has to hurt. Otherwise, people won't stop being stupid."

Granted, he was talking about network users, but still. It has greater applicability.

pst314

It has greater applicability.

Indeed. Very, very wide applicability.

Sam Duncan

“Petrona (I believe Malaysian for "oil and gas company")”

Heh. That's what I get for reading the threads backwards. I could have saved ten minutes writing a comment about that and looking up amusing links for it.

pst314

Heh. That's what I get for reading the threads backwards.

If you read David's earliest threads backwards, you get "I buried Paul" and "Praise Cthulhu". Later threads, when David had reached a mellowed-out middle age, merely tell you "Eat more hump fat".

pst314

And yet, no clear evidence that readers of David's blog exhibit greater than normal average interest in tentacles and camel byproducts.

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