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August 23, 2021

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Hopp Singg

"We are all equally guilty. Especially you."

David

Well, you have to wonder why it is that no-one involved in the project – and there are lots of them, all declaring their pronouns – “he/him/el” – noticed that the impression being given was not entirely even-handed, and instead implied a number of, shall we say, begged questions.

Hopp Sing

David,

With respect (seriously, you are one of a kind), you make "load-bearing arguments", they do not.

You are serious, they are not.

The real question is, what are we going to do about it?

David

I mean, I suppose it’s possible that the “dialogue,” the particulars of which are not forthcoming, will include, say, the importance of reciprocation, and acknowledge the possible harm done to white students who are continually told, either explicitly or by implication, that they, being White Devils, are the source of all injustice. Born to oppress.

Though I wouldn’t put money on it.

David

Somewhat related:

Given the increasing push for anti-racism education, Campus Reform asked Iheoma U. Iruka, a professor at the University of North Carolina, how prevalent racism actually is among young children. “While we don’t have a numerical number, racism, arguably, is the air we breathe in the country and also permeates the early childhood space,” Iruka answered.

A numerical number. And “disparities” in academic performance, and in pretty much anything, can only be proof of racism. No other variables need be considered, it seems. This is the standard.

Liz

We used to be a serious country.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/08/22/police-pin-hopes-rainbow-cars-drive-hate-crime/

Felicity

It’s always interesting to look at the data.
https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/black-population-by-state
I would hazard a guess that it is extremely difficult to fill diversity quotas in Utah.

John Lewis

Dr Iruka’s CV must be one of the most outstanding examples of grifting and complete lack of oppression one could imagine. Whether it is the 3 degrees (no tittering in the back there please) from Temple, Boston U and U Miami, the multitude of presumably well-paid sinecures on the US equivalent of QUANGOS is or her recent elevation to the National Advisory Council she is, to use the vernacular, “getting hers”.

Rafi

racism, arguably, is the air we breathe

Smelling their own farts, then.

David

Smelling their own farts, then.

Heh. Well, quite.

If you start an ostensibly “anti-racist” organisation and the introductory materials give the impression that racism is somehow a demographically unilateral phenomenon - something done to black people, but never by them, and with Designated Oppressors clearly earmarked in advance - and while claiming that any disparities in outcome can only be explained by such allegedly all-pervasive-yet-unspecified racism, i.e., racism by white people, then the project seems pretty much worthless. Indeed, a form of gaslighting.

Which is to say, an active degradation of the moral and intellectual environment.

WTP

Well, you have to wonder why it is that no-one involved in the project …noticed...

Oh, I don't have to wonder. I've worked government projects. Defense department contracts, FBI, TSA, even one for the UK Ministry of Defense. Noticing quite obvious things, like repeatedly missed deadlines or "new" project development strategies that are actually failed ideas the software industry rejected decades ago, or insanely unreasonable/unlikely deadlines, or team meetings where the creepiness factor was almost laughable, or where we were told to stick with the program, by a company whose motto is "we never forget who we're working for", because we weren't building a logistics system, we were building houses. Yes. We were "building your house and your house and...". You just don't ask questions. Everything will be fine.

asiaseen

The Anti-Racism Committee recommends and evaluates measures to ensure that everyone enjoys a campus free of racism and hate.

However, not considering abolishing The Anti-Racism Committee as a prime mover of racism and hate.

pst314

Whether it is the 3 degrees (no tittering in the back there please) from Temple, Boston U and U Miami...

I have heard that Temple professors have a reputation for bullsh*t. That is, more so than universities in general.

Burnsie

"We are all equally guilty. Especially you."

Heh. I think you nailed the essence of the grift.

ComputerLabRat

racism, arguably, is the air we breathe

To paraphrase the Hollies - "All ytes need is the air that they breathe to oppress you".

And yet these are supposedly serious academics. High priests is more like it - there's an air of religious zealotry about this.

David

And yet these are supposedly serious academics. High priests is more like it – there’s an air of religious zealotry about this.

Given the supposed gravity of the supposed problem, you’d think these keen, colossal minds might share at least a hint of what it is they’re planning to “interrogate” and purge from the Earth. Alas, in page after page, we get only the usual airy waffle about “systems… policies and processes,” none of which are specified, even in broad terms. The university itself is mentioned as allegedly a venue of seething racial bigotry, but again, no particulars are offered – none whatsoever. The claim, and what it implies about students and staff - which is to say, the insult - is simply presented as in no need of explanation, or examples, or any supporting evidence.

The video features Dr Bryan Hubain, the associate vice-president of student development and inclusion – a man who boasts of being a “black, gay immigrant” as if this were a credential, an accomplishment, a triple whammy – and a reason for our eternal fascination – and whose LinkedIn profile tells us he is schooled in “critical race theory.”

So, no reasons for suspicion there.

Daniel Ream

"new" project development strategies that are actually failed ideas the software industry rejected decades ago

I hope you're not talking about Agile/Scrum, because that sh!t is as undead as Count Tepes of Transylvania. A chemical engineer friend of mine texted me from the middle of his PMP recertification course to ask if software development actually used this "Agile" stuff they were learning[1].

Regarding the topic at hand, this is the result of the Gramscian "long march through the institutions". Whether that created, or was merely made possible by a lack of civilizational confidence, here we are. The outrage is not that the University of Utah has formed an anti-racism committee; it's that this grifter managed to get admitted to a university at all, much less earn three degrees.

[1] The answer, in case you're curious, is "no, although we all say we do".

Governor Squid

I'm still waiting for the student groups brave or crazy enough to form clubs and committees dedicated to preserving the Straight White Male privilege that previous generations struggled so hard to provide.

"We will not dishono(u)r the sacrifices made by our forefathers! The critical race idiots say that our privilege is unearned, but this is nonsense -- it was earned by the blood and sweat and toil of generations who wanted a better future for their children. We will continue that struggle, and we will provide a better life for our own families, and we will never surrender our birthright to those who would steal not just the fruits of our hard work, but those of our fathers and their fathers before them!"

I mean, can you imagine the nervous breakdowns? The Undergrad Senate meetings? The articles in the student newspaper? It would be glorious to behold!

Alice

The claim, and what it implies about students and staff - which is to say, the insult - is simply presented as in no need of explanation, or examples, or any supporting evidence.

That.

David

That.

Well, if someone repeatedly claims that their workplace, a university – i.e., its staff and students – are racially bigoted and undermining the lives and opportunities of minority students - such that committees are required, along with an elaborate and expensive, and ever-expanding, infrastructure - then the very least that someone could do is specify how, ideally with some evidence.

Lest others think they’re bullshitting.

Sam Duncan

“Police pin hopes on ‘rainbow cars’ to drive out hate crime”

I would humbly suggest that they're more likely to cause it. But then, given the way this hustle seems to operate, maybe that's the idea.

“It’s always interesting to look at the data.”

I think I've worked out why there were so many pasty-faced BLM “protesters” at CHAZ last year. (Remember that? It already seems like decades ago.)

“'black, gay immigrant' as if this were a credential, an accomplishment, a triple whammy”

But, to Our Betters, it is. These things confer status; it's like being the elder son of a Duke or being on first-name terms with the crowned heads of Europe to a previous generation.

“The answer, in case you're curious, is "no, although we all say we do".”

Phew. Because, speaking as a keen amateur, the thought that major businesses are running on software developed basically the way I'd do it keeps me awake at night. It's a bit like hearing that airliner maintenance is being taught using one adjustable spanner, a Haynes manual, and a rusty can of 3-in-1 oil.

David

But, to Our Betters, it is. These things confer status

And I’m pretty sure there’s a word for that.

Daniel Ream

Phew

I'm not sure it will ease your mind when I say that in lieu of "Agile", most software development teams engage in a project management methodology best described as "directionless flailing".

It's a bit like hearing that airliner maintenance is being taught using one adjustable spanner, a Haynes manual, and a rusty can of 3-in-1 oil.

The vast majority of software projects won't kill anybody if they misbehave, so there's no real incentive to do things any better than we are. Some software projects - like subway switching control software - will kill people, and those systems are developed under incredibly strict regimes with multiple independent quality checks. There's often a professionally licensed engineer involved, as well, which means at least one person with very real skin in the game.

Sam Duncan

“most software development teams engage in a project management methodology best described as "directionless flailing".”

Perhaps a new career beckons after all...

pst314

Seems accurate:

Roberto

an “intergroup dialogue,” you see, spanning “all intersections of identity and bias.”

Nice white lady feminists haven't caught up with what "intersectionality" really means. They think of a Venn diagram with the sets "complains about men", "complains about whites", and "complains about heterosexuals". So the central intersection is like one of the cozy wine sessions where she and her friends complain about their husbands, with the status bonus that some of those friends are now black and/or lesbian. She might have to defer to the "lived experience" of those minorities, but that's balanced out by her own lived experience of "sleeping with the enemy".

But the black feminists who introduced the concept were thinking more of a Venn diagram with the sets "non-male", "non-white", and "non-heterosexual". Being in any of those sets entitles you to deference from those who aren't in that set. And the more of the sets you're in, the higher your overall status is. So listen up Hilary, we're not in the cozy little intersection together, I'm on the inside and you're on the outside and you defer to me.

Boomer white feminists still think of "intersectionality" in terms of a majority - on the basis of its own majority moral concepts of kindness or tolerance or dialogue - making efforts to include minorities in its tent. But intersectionality is a minoritarian ideology - it's a moral inversion where the uninvited guest is entitled to judge his hosts on the basis of his own moral principles that he's so wonderful that he's entitled to insert himself anywhere and his hosts should be grateful to have him. Such guests boast about being incompatible and obnoxious and overstaying their welcome, because under minoritarianism, those are moral failures of the hosts.

WTP

I hope you're not talking about Agile/Scrum, because that sh!t is as undead as Count Tepes of Transylvania.

No, indeed sir. what I speak of is...quite the opposite. While the world was going to Agile, the brain trust twixt the FBI and my employer decided after numerous failures over the years to meet deadlines, that they would set an entire year aside to do ZERO coding, just design, design, design until the "design" was finally perfect. This for a project that was essentially taking an existing, very successful project (even mentioned in numerous TV series) and simply expanding its capabilities to add on different means of processing somewhat similar information. It was at that critical point, where they decided they were not going to code for a year, that I joined the program. I damn near went mad. Seriously.

To their "credit", so to speak, they did develop 4 week "sprints" consisting entirely of documentation review. A "lucky" 13 of these...across a year. So they at least could brand it Agile...so long as no one who took Agile remotely seriously was looking.

JuliaM

Don’t forget to…not smile at the black folks:

http://twitter.com/WokeTemple/status/1429840675193987072

Squires

Born to oppress.

Meanwhile, in the motherland:
https://nationalinterest.org/print/feature/ive-worked-refugees-decades-europes-afghan-crime-wave-mind-21506

ccscientist

I visited U. Montana. They had an expressed goal of having x% black (can't remember exact number). This came out to more black people than in the entire state, men women and children. Numeracy, how does it work?

Governor Squid

...repeating the words “equity,” “diversity” and “folx.”

Quick question for the editors: do we pronounce the "-x" words as "folks" and "latinks," or is it supposed to be "foal-ex" and "la-teen-ex"? I've been getting a lot of contradictory advice.

Daniel Ream

Which is quite a transformation, really.

Regardless of what they post on YouTube video comments and Twitter threads, that's exactly how most of the MCU's target demographic feels. I struggled through WandaVision and I haven't bothered with any MCU media since. Although I hear some of the What If episodes are kind of interesting.

EDIT: Never mind. The first two episodes of What If are explicit race and sex swaps for more popular white male characters.

ComputerLabRat

Numeracy, how does it work?

Numeracy is racist. Expecting melanin-gifted individuals to be numerate is racist.

What is it David always says? If Our Betters wanted to create a permanent underclass dependent forever on handouts, how would they do things differently to what they do now? Or something like that.

Oddly enough Tamils from South India and Sri Lanka are as melanin-gifted as sub-Saharan African tribesmen, and yet they seem to have no problem at all with complex mathematics. Neither, for that matter, are a lot of melanin-gifted recent immigrants from Sub-Saharan Africa, so enhanced melanin content doesn't always equal stupidity. Asian students from poverty-stricken families seem to be able to grasp complex mathematical concepts, so poverty doesn't always equal stupidity. But I think what these successful groups all have in common is a cohesive or even semi-cohesive family structure in place, with fathers present in many or most homes.

Governor Squid

Admitting that fathers are critical for the success of children means admitting that men are necessary and good. That kind of thinking will have you thrown from a rooftop if you're not careful.

Daniel Ream

Neither, for that matter, are a lot of melanin-gifted recent immigrants from Sub-Saharan Africa

There's a selection bias in your sample you're not accounting for.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

Don’t forget to…not smile at the black folks:

I smiled and waved at a neighbor the other day, that is nigh a lynching, even if he smiled and waved first because he was subconsciously acting out of his own black white supremacy imposed on him though the generational trauma of blacks in the South having been expected to smile at wypipo.

Maybe I can get a book out of this too.

I've been getting a lot of contradictory advice.

According to a friends woke daughter, "folks" and "la-teen-ex". The difficulty is the singular of "folx" (e.g., ein volk) and the plural of "Latinx". Is it a case like "sheep" the same singular or a herd, or Latinexs (which I have seen), or the more proper Latin (NPI) Latinices ?

ComputerLabRat

Latinices

Is that like Italian ices?

Admitting that fathers are critical for the success of children means admitting that men are necessary and good. That kind of thinking will have you thrown from a rooftop if you're not careful.

Yep - it's why I only say such things here, and under an assumed name. I remember the falling-flowerpot-from-upper-floor-balcony problem in physics class, and would prefer not to meet the same fate...

Governor Squid

"folks" and "la-teen-ex"

No, no, no! This won't do at all. If there's one thing I've learned from watching the antics of the Woke, it's that they are paragons of consistency and clear rulemaking. There's just no way they'd go with this sort of mix-and-match nonsense.

pst314

Don’t forget to…not smile at the black folks

The demands are getting increasing weird:
You're a racist if you don't look at black people.
You're a racist if you do look at black people.
You're a racist if you smile.
You're a racist if you frown.

anon a mouse

Latinices

Is that like Italian ices?"

Lattices.

Or not.

Alex

pst314, it’s “logic” of the same kind as:

Wine mixed with water makes you drunk.
Whiskey mixed with water makes you drunk.
Brandy mixed with water makes you drunk.

Conclusion: water makes you drunk.

pst314

Woman banned from zoo for being obsessed with chimp ... she says they're "having an affair"

pst314

Most liberal county in Wisconsin: jail will now refer to inmates as "residents" or "persons in our care"
Because it would be wrong to show rapists and murderers that we disapprove of them.

pst314

(Never mind that the right message to violent felons is "you are scum and unless you reform the world is better off without you.")

Farnsworth M Muldoon

...do we pronounce the "-x" words as "folks" and "latinks"...

Shamelessly stolen from someplace I can't find again - the proper pronunciation for those who use those is "pendejx".

Richard Cranium
I hope you're not talking about Agile/Scrum, because that sh!t is as undead as Count Tepes of Transylvania.

If the software you are developing has the ability to add incremental improvements and you actually don't try to paper over waterfall with it, it doesn't suck much more than anything else. It is a bit of a death march, since (in our case) you should deliver something that you can demonstrate to the business every 2 weeks. (Although our business folks are willing to wait until the end of an epic, so you can actually change base functionality for the better.)

We, as it so happens, have a QA group that contains honest QA engineers. There's a QA guy who works with my team, and when he says something is broken, I go look. It is much much better for him to find my failures than our customers. I may disagree with his determination of failure, but when he's correct, he's correct, and I tell him so in public meetings.

shrugs If you have shit management, your software methodology won't make a difference. Canadian engineers, however, wear the iron ring. (I did work in the US branch of Nortel for quite a few years and got to meet some of those engineers. They told me what it meant.)

Daniel Ream

it doesn't suck much more than anything else

The only decent software project management book ever written is The Mythical Man-Month, full stop.

Scrum/Agile/XP was a crashing failure on the very project where it was invented, although the people who worked on it claim to this day that it was a "success, for some definition of success".

Scrum can work well on a very specific type of project. Like all fads in software engineering, it's been heralded as The Second Coming and turned into some kind of universal that every project can benefit from - including, apparently, ones that have no visual components or customers in the Agile sense.

Canadian engineers, however, wear the iron ring

I used to be one. Punched out when I realized that as dippy and fad-riven as software engineers are, at least they aren't actively and consciously corrupt the way traditional engineers are. It's easier to teach developers how to do engineering than to teach engineers to be honest, and less personally risky.

Herp McDerp

What the frak are you Oppressive Racists in the U.K. up to now?!

Use of the Welsh language is SYSTEMIC RACISM!!!

... because too few Oppressed, Virtuous People of Color speak it.

Admit it! You racist bastards PLANNED that, centuries ago!

Zack

Meanwhile, in the motherland:

This brings us to a third, more compelling and quite disturbing theory—the one that my Afghan friend, the court translator, puts forward. On the basis of his hundreds of interactions with these young men in his professional capacity over the past several years, he believes to have discovered that they are motivated by a deep and abiding contempt for Western civilization. To them, Europeans are the enemy, and their women are legitimate spoils, as are all the other things one can take from them: housing, money, passports. Their laws don’t matter, their culture is uninteresting and, ultimately, their civilization is going to fall anyway to the horde of which one is the spearhead. No need to assimilate, or work hard, or try to build a decent life here for yourself—these Europeans are too soft to seriously punish you for a transgression, and their days are numbered.

And there's more in the article about the open contempt with which the border crossers (and their well-funded advocates) treat the system - “They’ll stand right there, balding, grey at the temples, and insist that they’re eighteen,”.

And the system will make excuses for them. An Irish judge mitigated the sentence of a Pakistani national who facilitated the illegal immigration of Afghanis on the basis that he did it as a favor to some people from the old country and didn't need to be paid for it. This is backwards - normally needing the money is a mitigating factor for the crime, not that you did it out of your heart's conviction. The judge excused it as a case of "misplaced loyalty". But it's loyalty where you'd expect it to be - to the people he has family and tribal and religious connections with. Misplaced loyalty would be to whatever European bureaucracy he managed to manipulate into giving him residency paperwork.

Given that the author (Cheryl Benard) is married to an Afghan-American diplomat and has been a long-time advocate for refugees from the region, it's brave of her to face up to those kinds of truths. But she goes back onto the narrative track with her feminist psychologizing about how they hate happy independent women, and her continuing conviction that this failure of managerialism should be corrected not by discontinuing mass immigration from Afghanistan but by a more expensive and complex managerialism for keeping track of badly behaved Afghans and the Austrians who complain about them.

Benard is a former child actress who can be seen at five years old in Kleine Leute mal ganz gross, a 1958 film about Berlin children sent for a vacation in Bavaria as a respite from their difficult lives in the divided city. WW2 guilt theoretically closer in time, and all the misery in the world to choose from, yet it was thought perfectly normal that a heartwarming story could be made about looking after a busload of white children from their own nation. Whatever the world was judging Germany for, its moral stature at the time didn't depend on accepting planeloads of the unable-to-assimilate and unwilling-to-assimilate from every failed nation in the world.

David

Never mind. The first two episodes of What If are explicit race and sex swaps for more popular white male characters.

Heh. Yes, not quite making the point they apparently think they’re making.

I saw the first episode - presumably, the strongest - and wasn’t entertained. I quite like the animation style, in general, but, again, the writing wasn’t good. Just clunky and obvious. Oh, and a sex-swapped lead character that didn’t work visually. She looked… disproportioned and unattractive, which could be construed as symbolic of the writer’s politics. During an interview, the writer, Ms A.C. Bradley, made a point of using the words “white men” as a pejorative, implying that, unlike her, they were terribly privileged and entitled, which should have been enough of a reason for me to do something else.

The forthcoming Doctor Strange episode is the only one I have any interest in. But at this stage, it’s almost a morbid curiosity.

[ Added: ]

It scarcely needs saying, but we have a self-imagined ‘creative class’ of severely-educated middle-class ‘progressives’ that’s increasingly removed from, and at odds with, the tastes and values of the audience it supposedly serves. It isn’t a new phenomenon, but it is, I think, becoming more pronounced, and on many fronts.

Joan

explicit race and sex swaps for more popular white male characters.

LOL

https://twitter.com/TheCriticalDri2/status/1429536700049633280

David

LOL

For some reason, the red hair is the icing on the cake.

Nikw211

Meanwhile, in the motherland:

    It’s clear that such events antagonize the general public.

Oh, you think?

brinster

Bob Woodson,founder of 1776 Unites (https://1776unites.com/), and the black scholars he's brought together, has a problem with this nonsense. These people don't believe there is nothing redeeming of western civilization, and the United States, in particular. John McWhorter has stated that those who advocate CRT won't debate him because he'd make them look like idiots.
The 1619 project, which is increasingly becoming a part of curriculum in American education, ignores a key element of the abolition of slavery. The 13th amendment was written by whom? I'm pretty sure a bunch of white guys formulated it and ratified it in 1865. Where's the gratitude?

pst314

“They’ll stand right there, balding, grey at the temples, and insist that they’re eighteen,”.

It is not enough to deport all the illegal and unassimilated immigrants invaders. We should also deport all the leftists.

Alex

Brinster, why do you think Juneteenth was blown up into such a big thing? It allows them to pretend that the end of slavery had nothing to do with any 13th Amendment, but was a matter of black auto-emancipation.

pst314

I was shocked to find out that a friend of mine is locked up.
- Allowed out for one hour excercise.
- Lights out from 9pm to 5am.
- Has to justify leaving his cell.
- His whole block can get locked down from one inmate not following rules.
I asked him what prison he is in.
He said "Australia".

Daniel Ream

She looked… disproportioned and unattractive

One problem with sex-swapping superheroes is that neither men nor women find female bodybuilders attractive. Meanwhile, this is what John Byrne's She-Hulk and the MC2 American Dream look like.

at odds with, the tastes and values of the audience it supposedly serves

Rich Meyer has been collecting voluminous evidence over the last four years on his YouTube channel, but the fact that superhero comics are managed and edited by people who hate superhero comics and superhero comics buyers has been true for a very long time. I have comics that go back to the 1999-2001 period that tout DC's "Out at DC" outreach program for gay youth, as that's apparently a huge demographic that spends a lot of money on superhero comics.

the red hair is the icing on the cake

For me it was the feminine controposto pose, which...implies things about the character.

aelfheld

"Sentence first – verdict afterward."

Critical race theory summarised.

David

One problem with sex-swapping superheroes is that neither men nor women find female bodybuilders attractive.

I remember Michael Golden could make Big Barda look imposing without depicting her as some androgynous hulking barn, but it’s tricky and not often done well.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

Meanwhile, this is what John Byrne's She-Hulk...

Right, turning green with large boobs will strike fear and terror in the hearts of evil doers everywhere. Captain Kirk was unavailable for comment.

pst314

Right, turning green with large boobs will strike fear and terror in the hearts of evil doers everywhere.

Blue skin, on the other hand, is an attribute of divinity in Hinduism: A refusal to properly respond to any invitation from a beautiful blue skinned woman would be impious.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

Blue skin, on the other hand, is an attribute of divinity in Hinduism:

That, or being very cold, dead, or having agyria.

Jack Klompus

I have heard that Temple professors have a reputation for bullsh*t. That is, more so than universities in general.

Temple employs Molefi Asante and Makr Lamont Hill. It's a large urban university in one of the worst neighborhoods in Philadelphia. It's cleaned up its act in recent years but for the longest time if you were an academic mediocrity you were told, "Well, you can always go to Temple."

pst314

It's cleaned up its act in recent years...

About when did that start happening?

WTP

If the software you are developing has the ability to add incremental improvements and you actually don't try to paper over waterfall with it, it doesn't suck much more than anything else.

Yeah, that paper over waterfall is the thing. Basically describes to varying degree every large government contract I ever worked. The one I mentioned above was as paper-over as one could get. How people on that project, even the more cynical ones, would refer to our scrums and sprints without blushing or so much as a wink and a nod made me very cynical about how cynical they truly were. I truly think there were only two people on that project who really understood how f****d up it was. Yet after (I'm told, I got cut from the program...they never really liked me...the upper, out-of-state managers and such anyway) a couple more years, more missed deadlines, and many, many millions of dollars later, they actually did deliver something. I see on Google the program director was actually given an award for delivering it. $1.1 Billion dollars (they say) it cost. I worked a very similar in scope project in the private sector, no hint of Agile until way after the main product was out the door, that cost somewhere around $300 million. And that was starting virtually from scratch. The tech we used was changing much more rapidly, it was mostly C++ as Java hadn't come along yet.

And all to catch bad guys only so we can turn around and let them loose anyway.

But back to Agile...Like all fads in software engineering, it's been heralded as The Second Coming and turned into some kind of universal that every project can benefit from - including, apparently, ones that have no visual components or customers in the Agile sense.

This in spades. Not just to Agile but as I was getting out of the more intense, cutting edge stuff the blockchain thing was becoming the Answer To All Questions.

The shame is that Agile has a place. But it's place isn't everywhere/everything. It isn't even all Agile.
And especially the sh*t driven by fattening remoras like Atlassian. The two important things about it that matter are getting user interfaces in front of business people who truly don't want to know about tech. And they really shouldn't. They have their own jobs to do, their own customers to focus on. But they simply do not work in as anal of an environment as software people. The exception being, as one or both of you infer, the harder, more cutting edge engineering or medical/life-or-death stuff. They may still hate software but they take a much more focused, hands-on approach with a greater sense of responsibility for getting their requirements right relative to regular business people or government agencies or law enforcement.

The second is the cyclical approach. Software seems easy to those who don't do it, and even to most who do, but getting it right, getting the product that the customer needs done right, is very hard.

All that said (forgive me), one thing I never worked, at least until one of my last jobs, was a software product that was not customer-driven over some significant period. Any product that is being developed for a broader market (think iPhone or...something else...) where the user doesn't even know he exists yet, well I don't think anything I've related here would apply. I'm just a product of my environment...

Daniel Ream

turning green with large boobs will strike fear and terror in the hearts of evil doers everywhere

Female superheroes have always been pinup cheesecake. Always. Complaining about that is like complaining that the billionaire astronaut firefighter cowboys who cat around with nubile 21-year-olds until they settle down into wedded, child-producing bliss with a thirty-something soccer mom in women's romance novels are unrealistic.

Byrne's run on She-Hulk deconstructed the way the character was used as an "Attack of the 50-Foot Woman" sexploitation gimmick in the original title, while making her sexy on her own terms. Part of the reason the current character design annoys a lot of people is that Byrne's She-Hulk was sexy and fun and competent without the need for woke affirmative action or being drawn like an angry fireplug.

American Dream was a just a good example of how to sex-swap a popular hero without shitting all over the original: she's a legacy hero driven by the need to live up to Cap's example.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

Female superheroes have always been pinup cheesecake. Always.

Trailblazer demands you stop objectifying zer.

Daniel Ream

one thing I never worked, at least until one of my last jobs, was a software product that was not customer-driven

I'm currently working on a project whose primary component is an endpoint that receives telemetry from millions of IoT devices a day, dumps the telemetry into an event queue, and drains the queue into a data lake for later processing and data mining. The technical challenge is primarily about scalability, performance and real-time verification of data integrity. There's no "customer" for this in the Agile sense. The requirements are well-bounded and can't change. Nonetheless, we started with Scrum (which we abandoned because the project director didn't like people saying mean things about his project) moved to Kanban (but without WIP limits because the project director doesn't like the idea of limits) and now we've adopted something best described as "desperate flailing".

Trailblazer demands you stop objectifying zer.

Your terms are acceptable.

As of July 2021 no New Warriors comics have been released and the title has been removed from ComiXology with both Marvel and its creators refusing to comment on the future of the comic or if the series has quietly been canceled

Farnsworth M Muldoon

...no New Warriors comics have been released and the title has been removed...

Oh noes ! Now Squirrel Girl has a sad.

Richard Cranium
I'm currently working on a project whose primary component is an endpoint that receives telemetry from millions of IoT devices a day, dumps the telemetry into an event queue, and drains the queue into a data lake for later processing and data mining. The technical challenge is primarily about scalability, performance and real-time verification of data integrity.

That project sounds close to what I do for a living, albeit with devices that move around. (TCP sessions are expensive in that space.) I'll point out that a good BA (AKA Business Analysis) is worth its (Newspeak is doubleplus good) weight in gold.

Richard Cranium

Business Analysis

Good God, I've posted stuff on CompuServe back in the stone age and still can't see things even after using the preview button.

Business Analyst

Daniel Ream

albeit with devices that move around

That's coming.

This is a reimplementation of an existing system that can no longer scale and in some places uses orphan technology (parts of the system are written in FoxPro. No, I am not making that up).

a good BA (AKA Business Analysis) is worth

You're not wrong. Our biggest problem is the constant war between the tyros who want to use the latest and sexiest technology regardless of fitness for purpose, stability or longevity, and the hoary old frogs who don't trust anything released after 1988. Just convincing them not to implement the whole thing on $%^&ing Kubernetes burned all my political capital and so I had to cave on using React for the front end.

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