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Via Ben Sixsmith, a new forbidden word. Please update your files and lifestyles accordingly: 

A tough guy talks.

When not publicly threatening to assault people who use the word woke, and being pleased about it, having wilfully construed the term as somehow racist, Mr Anderson writes for Slate, where he tells the world how things really are. Some of the comments by Mr Anderson’s Twitter followers, and their endorsements of his sentiments, are also worthy of note.

Ah. I see a theme developing.

Perhaps Mr Anderson is titillated by the idea of assaulting people and spends his time searching for some convoluted pretext. And having attracted the like-minded, we see people wrapped in a drag of progressive piety – with pronouns gratuitously stipulated, rumblings of opposing some unspecified “fascism,” and the word “ally” in their bios – who thrill to the prospect of white people being walloped simply for using the word woke. It’s a strange kind of righteousness.

Readers may recall former Guardian editor Alan Rusbridger denouncing the word woke as a “meaningless sneer,” one “designed to stand in the way of thought or discussion.” That the word in question - which was deployed unironically in his own paper - is often used to denote a particular kind of contrivance, censoriousness – and above all, self-flattery - was apparently lost on Mr Rusbridger and his Twitter followers, who promptly equated wokeness, and thereby themselves, with “people who are thinking outward and forwards rather than inward and backwards.”

Update, via the comments:

Speaking of wokeness.

Not that the term has anything at all to do with practised, insufferable, self-flattering pretension, you understand.

Over at Instapundit, regarding Mr Anderson, Glenn Reynolds adds,

Guys who work for big media corporations telling people what’s racist and encouraging violence is the very definition of “woke” in 2021. And because people understand that, the word carries a lot of baggage that guys like Joel don’t like. But the problem is, they are the baggage.

And Damian Counsell has some thoughts: 

You can tell when a label is embarrassing to the media class when they start claiming it’s “racist” or “sexist.” They were fine with “Karen” when they were using it against less-well-off white women. When posh gals started being on the receiving end, it was suddenly “misogynist.” “Woke” was first co-opted from black people by white “progressives.” Then, non-progressives started calling exactly the same people who called themselves woke “woke” too. It was only because the behaviour of the woke was so appalling that it acquired such negative connotations.

Oh, and on Twitter, Mr Anderson has subsequently urged his followers to “not engage” with people who may disagree with Mr Anderson. His tweets, he boasts, have “stirred up a nest of racists,” by which he seems to mean people who dislike threats of racially-motivated violence. He’s also used the term “sons of Stormfront,” which appears to be directed at readers of this item in The Federalist, a characterisation that is, to say the least, a bit of a stretch.

Also, open thread. Share ye links and bicker.

Comments

Herp McDerp

Smug little POS, ain't he?

Meanwhile, here's another example of Forbidden Evil Hate Speech, in the U.K.:

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-hampshire-59179914

Jacob

Some of the comments by Mr Anderson’s Twitter followers, and their endorsements of his sentiments, are also worthy of note.

Don't do drugs, kids.

David

Don’t do drugs, kids.

Well, it is a little odd. I should imagine that, insofar as people picture anything when using the term, what comes to mind is more likely to be some blue-haired, septum-pierced woman of pallor with a worthless degree and a personality disorder.

David

Slate, you’ll recall, is a publication for the scrupulously progressive and not-at-all deranged.

David

For those who missed it.

bobby b

So, if I happen to run into Mr. Anderson in person, I have his written word that he has threatened to harm me. A defense is called for.

He's not thought this through well.

Stephanie Richer

Back in the day, when I was a wee thug growing up on the streets of the Bronx in a neighborhood populated by shanty Irish, we would use the term "I call you out" to challenge someone to a fight. Quite often, it was employed because there was a consensus among the hooligans that some people needed to have their ass kicked for their own benefit due to their unnecessary and annoying displays of threatened violence, since a real man did not need to advertise his ability to handle any rough trade.

The reason why people like Anderson can spew this nonsense is that no one calls them out in the way of Norwood (my Bronx neighborhood). They will stop advocating violence when they meet it firsthand - until then, it remains a personal fetish or fantasy, as they play "Mr. Smith Goes to Fight Club" on a continuous loop in their mind with no commercial interruptions.

In short, that fellow needs a paddlin' . . .

Stephanie Richer

Oh, and speaking of bickering links . . .

https://twitter.com/newsbusters/status/1457418825645711372

Evidently the Ragin' Cajun needs to make more memes.

David

Speaking of wokeness.

Not that the term has anything at all to do with practised, insufferable, self-flattering pretension, you understand.

pst314

When not publicly threatening to assault people who use the word woke, and being pleased about it,

Blacks in America are only about 12 percent of the population but commit over 50 percent of the murders and other violent crimes. And even middle class blacks have a much higher violent crime rate than whites.

But it probably has never occurred to him that his comments might be...unproductive.

There are a lot of black Americans who would eagerly work in death camps.

David

Back in the day, when I was a wee thug growing up on the streets of the Bronx

I’m now picturing Stephanie in a sophisticated evening gown, with a designer shiv strapped to her thigh.

David

On masculinity.

pst314

I’m now picturing Stephanie in a sophisticated evening gown, with a designer shiv strapped to her thigh.

I am reminded of a satirical drawing of then Chicago alderman Dorothy Tillman (a notorious black racist), titled "Help Her Dress". Although a loud advocate of gun control, she had brandished a gun at a City Council meeting.

Mike

Ooooh, just the thought of those stubby little fingers clicking on my head fills me with fear! A fear I deem justified, he does have a caps-lock key and I don't believe he's afraid to use it. He is WOKE after all.

pst314

he does have a caps-lock key

Let's hope he doesn't start talking about "putting a cap in yo ass".

WTP

He's not thought this through well.

If you are white, white hispanic, or a black White Supremacist, you haven't thought this through well either.

pst314

Communist party leader from Vietnam makes a show of visiting Karl Marx’s grave… before going to enjoy gold-encrusted steaks. All as part of the climate change conference. They always tell you exactly who and what they are.

Arty

This is a textbook case of how to apply the first and second amendments.

Darleen

Ah. I see a theme developing.

What a pity poor Joel grew up without a father.

Wim

On masculinity.

My tweet was accompanied by old election posters for Labour and the Socialist Party of America (see above) that portrayed distinctly masculine themes, such as men wearing military uniforms or performing industrial work. Needless to say, promotional materials for today’s left-wing parties (at least in the Anglosphere) tend to explore quite different themes. And if you ask contemporary left-wing pundits what “masculinity” is, they may tell you it’s something “toxic”, while simultaneously blaming everything on “straight white males”.

They disapprove of masculinity in their own former voting base, working class white men now smeared and marginalized as Alf Garnett types.

They're titillated by, and deferential towards, the high-self-esteem short-fuse territorial masculinity of blacks and Muslims.

The worse the behavior of the latter group, the greater the guilt that, by "Their homophobia is our fault" type reasoning, is to be rediverted onto the former group.

Darleen

Oh why oh why won't these ignorant, racist, red-neck cousin humpers vote for us?

pst314

Nephew of George Floyd is into intimidation of judges and jurors.

These are felonies.

Would that the FBI would investigate and prosecute these leftist and racist thugs as vigorously as the investigate and prosecute people that Democrats do not like.

Dr. Chaotica

I've never heard of this Joel D. Anderson before. Is there some reason that I need his permission to use whatever words I want to use?

Daniel Ream

The reason why people like Anderson can spew this nonsense is that no one calls them out

I've commented before that politeness and courtesy are a kind of Geneva Convention intended to stop people resolving their differences with violence. When the other side decides to use poison gas on the battlefield, you don't wring your hands and continue fighting in a gentlemanly fashion; you bomb his civilian population until he agrees to stop.

We allowed these thugs to swagger and threaten us publicly until they escalated to burning down our cities and we still didn't respond appropriately. There's a violent civil war coming, the only question is when.

Blacks in America are only about 12 percent of the population but commit over 50 percent of the murders and other violent crimes

6%. It's not the women committing the majority of those crimes (although they do have a higher incidence than non-black women).

pst314

6%. It's not the women committing the majority of those crimes...

True. But then we should also adjust our description of the statistics to compare black men to white men, at which point I think we arrive at the same ratio as before.

...(although they do have a higher incidence than non-black women).

Sadly true. Much higher, I believe. In fact, I'll bet that the ratio of black female criminality to white female criminality is similar to the black-white male ratio.

And it's not just the criminals; it's also the people who sympathize with the criminals: When I white thug is shot by his victim or the police, his relatives and neighbors are usually ashamed. When a black thug is shot, the relatives and neighbors are often angry at whoever shot him.

Governor Squid

6%

It's even worse if you filter for the age demographic. Look up victim/offender stats for black males age 15-29 and it'll make your eyes water.

They're titillated by, and deferential towards, the high-self-esteem short-fuse territorial masculinity of blacks and Muslims.

We've observed before that it takes a team of people more than fifteen years of patient, relentless, thankless work to turn a man into a gentleman. And these jokers want to elevate the former and denigrate the latter.

Squires

Perhaps Mr Anderson is titillated by the idea of assaulting people...

I am reminded of the observation that bullies do not want a fight.

They disapprove of masculinity in their own former voting base, working class white men now smeared and marginalized as Alf Garnett types.

They're titillated by, and deferential towards, the high-self-esteem short-fuse territorial masculinity of blacks and Muslims.

Nature abhors a vacuum.

There are a lot of black Americans who would eagerly work in death camps.

Consider the invention and intended purpose of the “Palestinian”.

Nicholas

I’m now picturing Stephanie in a sophisticated evening gown, with a designer shiv strapped to her thigh.

For those who wish to learn a bit on the practical side of concealing edged weapons in evening gowns, Jill Bearup is the answer - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDUps4lW07s

David

For those who wish to learn a bit on the practical side of concealing edged weapons in evening gowns,

If anyone’s getting aroused by this thread, I’m fetching the hamster urine.

sH2

Instalanche..

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/483944/.

David

Instalanche

I’m going to need more hamster urine.

Daniel Ream

When a black thug is shot, the relatives and neighbors are often angry at whoever shot him

Just once I'd like to see a police chief or even a bystander interrupt when some weepy mother cries "he was such a good boy, he was turning his life around" and say "no, he was a violent criminal and a drug dealer because you're a shitty parent".

And these jokers want to elevate the former and denigrate the latter

There's many a jack made a gentleman, and many a gentleman made a jack.

WTP

When a black thug is shot, the relatives and neighbors are often angry at whoever shot him and the white victim or police officer who shot him is shamed by his white neighbors, relatives, political party, be it R or D, and they are frequently even angrier so as to assuage their white "guilt" and/or signal their virtue.

There. FIFY. Wordy and inelegant as crap though, but you get what you pay for.

TimT

Back in the day, when I was a wee thug growing up on the streets of the Bronx in a neighborhood populated by shanty Irish, we would use the term "I call you out" to challenge someone to a fight. Quite often, it was employed because there was a consensus among the hooligans that some people needed to have their ass kicked for their own benefit due to their unnecessary and annoying displays of threatened violence, since a real man did not need to advertise his ability to handle any rough trade.

Very interesting because, like 'woke', 'call you out' is a term that has gone on to be associated with a certain type of self-righteous internet behaviour - ie if someone offends against wokeness you might well 'call them out'.

The act always makes me think of dramatic hamster.

pst314 pretending to be an Instalancher

Instalanche

Bartender, I'd like a healthful smoothie, please. Just like Glenn Reynolds makes 'em.

Full Pants Joe

I was kicked off Breitbart comments once for joking (I thought) “It’s Okay to be ofay.”

(Ofay was a 1960’s era name for white people. Ofay is Pig Latin for Foe.)

Captain Nemo

Yeah. Why would the media bother interviewing the woman hounded out of her job by an intolerant, shouty mob, when they could interview one of the members of that intolerant, shouty mob? It's a real mystery to me...

https://twitter.com/SpillerOfTea/status/1457702004281782274

pst314

“It’s Okay to be ofay.”

To paraphrase Corporal Max Klinger, 'pale skin makes good kin'. :-D

Nikw211

Marxist academic argues it's time for the gloves to come off:

    What could potentially be achieved [by acts of violence]? One, is to try to establish a kind of deterrent against investors: if you continue banking on machines and infrastructure that destroys the planet, you risk finding these wrecked. Though I don’t know how much action you need to establish that as a deterrent; how many refineries you would have to blow up to make that a credible threat.

That he's making this call to arms in an ArtReview interview seems rather telling.

Daniel Ream

What could potentially be achieved [by acts of violence]?

Well, we might get these Marxist academics to shut the **** up for a change. Pour encourager les autres and all that.

David

On Twitter, Mr Anderson has subsequently urged his followers to “not engage” with people who may disagree with Mr Anderson. His tweets, he boasts, have “stirred up a nest of racists,” by which he seems to mean people who dislike threats of racially-motivated violence. He’s also used the term “sons of Stormfront,” which appears to be directed at readers of this item in The Federalist, and which is, to say the least, a bit of a stretch.

Darleen

Uh ... What?

Liam

Ah. I see a theme developing.

Guy's got issues.

David

Guy’s got issues.

Again, it helps if you think of wokeness in terms of psychology, the kinds of attitudes, evasions, and contortions it requires, and the kinds of personalities to which such things might appeal. When the ostensible reasoning is so contrived and unrealistic, and so morally perverse, as for instance here, it’s fair to ask whether other, non-rational motives may be in play.

David
You can tell when a label is embarrassing to the media class when they start claiming it’s “racist” or “sexist.” They were fine with “Karen” when they were using it against less-well-off white women. When posh gals started being on the receiving end, it was suddenly “misogynist.”

“Woke” was first co-opted from black people by white “progressives.” Then, non-progressives started calling exactly the same people who called themselves woke “woke” too. It was only because the behaviour of the woke was so appalling that it acquired such negative connotations.

Damian Counsell has some thoughts.

David

Post updated.

pst314

Then, non-progressives started calling exactly the same people who called themselves woke “woke” too.

This is a recurring pattern: Remember when, many years ago, the American left started evaluating things in terms of "political correctness"? When their opponents started criticizing and mocking this, the left suddenly claimed to have only used the term ironically (as if the left had never demanded ideological conformity) or even claimed that the term was invented by the right.

pst314

[ Cue scare music] The Flemish Menace: We should ban Belgians from Twitter. I prefer Monty Pythonesque absurdity to the actually evil racism of a Joel Anderson and his paymasters.

Watcher In The Dark

Mr Anderson is adamant he is not saying he will do something, nor that he won't do something, but like all these woke half-wits he ends up saying nothing much at all.

pst314

Oh, the nothing that Mr Anderson says is enough of a something to reach some conclusions that he would not like.

pst314

When the ostensible reasoning is so contrived and unrealistic, and so morally perverse, as for instance here, it’s fair to ask whether other, non-rational motives may be in play.

From that link: "in what way will those “black lives” be improved by the destruction of local infrastructure, local businesses, and the subsequent, perhaps dramatic, reduction in trust and goodwill?"

One could write an essay--or a book--unpacking that one sentence. For instance, what fraction of the black population is inclined to such criminality, what larger fraction condones it? What still larger fraction condemns it but hates whites anyway? How about the black politicians who excuse and justify it? And the fact that such politicians are easily reelected time after time? And then there are the black professors who foment racial hatred, and the white liberals who hire them.

pst314

And speaking of that, David, didn't you post an item some time back about blacks who complain about whites who smile at them? Thirty years ago there were extremely few black people in my neighborhood. There are more now. When I go for a walk I smile or nod at the people I pass. But I have noticed that a significant fraction of the new black residents make no acknowledgement in return--no smile, no nod, nothing. Their eyes do not even meet mine. Stony facial expression. It's as if I'm not there or I am not a human being. Clearly the message they broadcast is that although they reside in the neighborhood they will never be our neighbors and prefer to see us as enemies. Once again, such behavior will result in a reduction in trust and goodwill.

pst314

Also: Although they behave as if we are enemies, they must know that we can be trusted to never do them harm, or they would not have chosen to live in this rather quiet peaceful suburb. This leads to the linguistic clarification that although we are not their enemies, they are ours. The reductions in trust keep piling up.

pst314

Replace "linguistic" with "terminological". The thesaurus in my head only runs on three cylinders.

David

David, didn’t you post an item some time back…

Perhaps you mean this one? It’s actually about neurotic white lefties who feel compelled to smile ostentatiously and in a racially condescending way. Though resenting being smiled at does ring a bell. I’ve read something along those lines somewhere.

pst314

Perhaps you mean this one?...

Thanks, David. That was a darkly amusing item--as is anything that begins "Dear fellow white people".

...Though resenting being smiled at does ring a bell.

I was indeed thinking of that. Must have read it elsewhere.

And one doesn't have to actually put on a big smile: It's a very male thing to just make brief eye contact and nod, a nonverbal message that says "I see you, I respect you, we are not enemies, we may become acquainted and become friends but in the meantime we are mutually good intentions." When that goes out the window good citizens start thinking about avoidance and exclusion.

ccscientist

The entire dialog from the woke and BLM is as if lynchings are still going on, when in reality the biggest risk to a young black male is another young black male (oh I know some how this is magically caused by "oppression"). I have black friends who say they have never been bothered or discriminated against in their entire lives. The black middle class has been growing. Black women have the same median income as white women. Black married couples do pretty well. It is a manufactured crisis.

David

as is anything that begins “Dear fellow white people”

The racial neuroticism among white lefties can be quite funny, in a twisted sort of way.

WTP

"I see you, I respect you, we are not enemies, we may become acquainted and become friends but in the meantime we are mutually good intentions." When that goes out the window good citizens start thinking about avoidance and exclusion.

Mmm...that's pretty much all teenagers of the last 40 years (or more?). Also applies to many of my white neighbors but none of my (very few) black neighbors, in central FL anyway. Though those white neighbors who behave this way are mostly the same ones who wear/wore masks outside. So...Similar root causes?

pst314

Mmm...that's pretty much all teenagers of the last 40 years (or more?). Also applies to many of my white neighbors but none of my (very few) black neighbors, in central FL anyway.

Regional differences? And around here in the soon-to-be-Frozen-North teens are often oblivious (off in their own worlds) but rarely ostentatiously rude and hostile...at least in this neighborhood.

Darleen

"The cancelling committee presented no evidence of unfairness in the nomination process, apart from the unacceptable result."

pst314

"The cancelling committee presented no evidence of unfairness in the nomination process, apart from the unacceptable result."

Our enemies are laughing at us.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

The racial neuroticism among white lefties can be quite funny, in a twisted sort of way.

She's back, and she's mad...

Jacobus

When I go for a walk I smile or nod at the people I pass.

I live in a city just outside of Toronto. I have a regular morning run on trails in the local greenspace and make a point of saying “good morning” to everyone I encounter. I usually get a response around 70% of the time. The outliers fall into two groups – the first, Asians are invariably polite and respond to my greetings – I would say 99% of the time. At the other end of the scale are ‘white’ middle aged women ... perhaps 10% will respond, mostly they just pretend not to see me.

pst314

Jacobus: Curious. I do not get that response from white middle aged women. A regional thing?

ComputerLabRat

She's back, and she's mad...

What's with the stick of butter emoji next to the virtue signal mask emoji? That last one fits with the hashtag stayinpodcast, but the butter? She signalling she's up for some Marlin Brando style backdoor action while she's masked up and staying in?

To her new twit message - when Trum said it about Illhan Omar to go back to her home district, which she represents, the media had a fit for weeks that he had told her to go back home to Somalia. This person, Diversity hashtags and pronouns in bio, actually says immigrant go back home to home country and crickets.

Uma Thurmond's Feet

What's with the stick of butter emoji next to the virtue signal mask emoji?

Online sources say it's about cooking. Like Julia Child said, sometimes a stick of butter is just a stick of butter.

WTP

I live in a city just outside of Toronto. I have a regular morning run on trails in the local greenspace and make a point of saying “good morning” to everyone I encounter. I usually get a response around 70% of the time.

Ah, but this raises an observation that is (probably) boring as hell to other people but I have always found interesting...fascinating even. There is a certain sidewalk/crowd population density at which, even in he most polite gatherings, even church or such, where smiling or saying hello or even the meeting of eyes drops off. What that density is for any locale/community is anyone's guess but at some point, even leaving church, even on Christmas Eve, most people stop acknowledging every single person that they encounter. It gets awkward and creepy at some point.

But two people passing each other when neither has seen another person for...what...45 seconds? A minute? At some point even walking the neighborhood it drops off.

pst314

There is a certain sidewalk/crowd population density at which, even in he most polite gatherings...

Very good point. Important to remember.

In the case of my neighborhood walks, it's a quiet suburban neighborhood, so on average it is about 2 minutes between encounters.

pst314

sometimes a stick of butter is just a stick of butter.

Not when it's being brandished by a wokester. [ Crosses arms. Juts out chin defiantly. ]

WTP

Another factor, I'm a fairly tall guy. I generally don't walk by myself, usually with my wife, but when it's just me and my small 20 lb dog, I find a good number of people will cross the street long before I approach them. Especially women. And especially if they have their own dog, but that's generally another factor. What is interesting to me about that is, how far ahead of me they will cross. Not so close as (I think they think) it's obvious that their afraid/avoiding me but still close enough that I notice. If I were a black man, I could certainly read racism into the situation. Yet it's definitely not a factor.

pst314

Some people--mostly women--will step well away from me when I approach, but at least in my case that is clearly a post-COVID thing.

If it was true for you even before COVID, I'd wonder how muscular you are, whether you dress to accentuate this, how you carry yourself, how naturally hard your face looks, and so on. And then there's Resting Bitchy Face or even Resting Grim Retired Gunny Face. ;-)

Bill de Haan

Meanwhile, here's another example of Forbidden Evil Hate Speech, in the U.K.

"It's okay to be white" is so 2018. The latest "problematic" slogan is "Islam is right about women", which despite openly supporting Islam is somehow Islamophobic hate speech and sexist against women, while concurrently claiming that Islam is very female friendly.

The logical contortions abound.

The latest amusement is the Eternals movie, which "despite" having a female of colour as a director and the first sex scene in a Marvel movie, is not very popular with moviegoing audiences. Surprisingly, it's also not popular with critics, either. It's all quite amusing seeing every film critic that accused critics of the Ghostbusters remake, or the Charlie's Angels movie of being misogynistic incels suddenly try to criticize a female led movie. The first half of most of the reviews start off by claiming that it actually is possible to criticize a female without being a sexist.

Funny how that didn't apply two years ago.

pst314

Child's mother claimed to have no knowledge of her husband’s whereabouts, and also said the large hole she had been digging in the backyard was for a garden.

MC

She's back, and she's mad...

This is the lady who recommended 'Black twitter'? I followed her advice at the time and did find it a learning experience....

Have to say, I was not expecting her shift to "Send 'em back to where they came from!" The malignant insanity of progressive America is beyond my ken.

Daniel Ream

Leftists project. To a leftist, "the coloreds" are their tools and pets. They're not supposed to get airs above their station.

David

The first half of most of the reviews start off by claiming that it actually is possible to criticize a female without being a sexist.

Heh, Again, a whiff of the neurotic.

Skimming the reviews, it was quite funny to watch the fairly sudden shift from strained, rather unconvincing displays of approval, and endless references to the sex of the director and the racial diversity of the cast, to an admission that, actually, it’s a bit shit. Even Reason’s reviewer hailed the “progressive representation” and “assertive diversity” of the film - and spent a paragraph listing the apparently important race and nationality of practically every actor - before acknowledging that the film itself is poorly lit and an “unintriguing muddle.” There seemed to be a tipping point, at which the pretence became unsustainable. I think it was Mark Kermode who felt obliged to stress that the wokeness, as he put it, had nothing whatsoever to do with why it’s a bad film.

Well. I haven’t seen the thing, and don’t plan to, but it occurs to me that if you promote a film with endless, often ludicrous hyperbole about “diversity” and “representation” - as if no woman has ever directed a film before, and no non-white person has ever appeared on screen in any capacity – and if you do this practically to the exclusion of all else, such that almost every feature and interview lists exactly the same menu of identitarian pieties – then it doesn’t leave much room for any other reason to be interested. And it does raise the question of whether the people making the film, shaping its priorities, have taken their eye off the ball.

It’s remarkable how quickly Marvel have gone from a kind of superhero-movie Motown, kings of crowd-pleasing confection, to “Oh dear, we shat the bed again.” And wokeness is very much a part of that.

TimT

A very painful story. Other dads - don't be like this one. .

Mags

if you do this practically to the exclusion of all else, such that almost every feature and interview lists exactly the same menu of identitarian pieties – then it doesn’t leave much room for any other reason to be interested. And it does raise the question of whether the people making the film, shaping its priorities, have taken their eye off the ball.

That.

David

That.

Marvel has of late been hiring head writers who are ostentatiously woke - Jac Schaeffer, Malcolm Spellman, etc – and who make all the fashionable political noises. But few of them seem especially gifted as writers. Indeed, they seem quite cack-handed. Whether it’s the moral tone-deafness of the WandaVision finale, and the half-arsed tedium that preceded it, or the incongruous and cringeworthy BLM posturing of Falcon and the Winter Soldier, which undermined any suspension of disbelief and resulted in widespread mockery. It’s not just the dubious politics and obnoxious assumptions; it’s the fact it’s so badly done.

Now, I suppose it’s possible that this is merely a coincidence, or an ongoing series of coincidences. But in my experience, the kinds of people who feel compelled to insert woke politics into the stories, and who think that an audience should be fascinated by the race and sex and sexuality of superheroes, tend not to be great talents. They tend to be mediocrities for whom stories are rarely ends in themselves, but vehicles for propagating a political worldview. The woke “creatives” to whom Marvel has recently entrusted formerly lucrative properties, in cinemas, in comics, and on Disney+, have, I think, borne this out.

And so, instead of delivering engaging characters or a compelling premise, or some elaborate multi-film narrative, or even just a promise of escapist fun, we’re now expected to enthuse about the fact that an otherwise dull film has a deaf actress in it, a gay person, and several brown people. And none of those things strike me as great reasons for spending £50 and half a day travelling across town to the local IMAX multiplex.

anon a mouse

endless references to the sex of the director and the racial diversity of the cast,

Indeed. Noticed advert the other day that broadcast details about the director and the "cast diversity". Nary a word on plot, story, or why I should care.

Funny, that.

ccscientist

Politics ruins art. Think back to Soviet "art" which was all propaganda. It was awful, stilted, phony, and bad art. The Soviets called all western art "decadent" because it did not serve the needs of the state. This is where we are headed.
In art and business you cannot take your eye off the ball, as David put it. And they have. Marvel made nothing but hits for 20 yrs and now are fumbling the ball since bought by disney. And why exactly is it so novel to have women and gay characters? Movies and TV have been full of them for decades. POC too. It is actually more unusual to see asians in a movie. Some black actors are in the top tier of salaries. Women directors are not new. It is like hollywood just discovered the internal combustion engine. meh

ccscientist

Further: Tyler Perry has his own studio in Atlanta producing mostly black films. Denzel Washington is in a movie twice a year. They don't advertise their work as "diverse" but as good films. These people are insecure mediocre talents.

David

It is like hollywood just discovered the internal combustion engine.

I generally expect Marvel films to promise to keep me entertained for two hours, or wow me with special effects and clever fight choreography. To relive the pleasure of being a wide-eyed six-year-old reading The Mighty World of Marvel. That kind of thing.

“Come look at the brown people!” doesn’t really cut it.

WTP

OK, I'm gonna get ugly now (again?) and maybe it's just old age, yet a part of me, a part deep down inside that I don't like to admit has existed even in my younger days, but...I'm sick of women. I'm sick of having to spend soooo much mental energy being concerned about WTF this week, this day, this minute that they're all whipped up into being concerned about. Which is soooo often, is something specific to themselves. I'm sick of the pretending that their supposed greater sense of empathy is not most of the time just a form of virtue signaling and thus really just passive aggression.

I just read an article via Insty, linked to by Glenn himself, by Allahpundit (spit) promoting Dr. Oz (of all f**** people) for the GOP candidacy for the PA US senate seat over Army war veteran Captain Sean Parnell because of Parnell's estranged (or ex, whatever) wife claiming he beat her and the kids. We must, right now at this moment, even though Parnell denies all of it, take into deep consideration what suburban women might now feel about him, regardless as to whether these charges have any substance to them. Because womens gots the feels and mens are all eeeevil. Because women feel that way. Not that 75% of worthless POS men aren't willing to jump on that bandwagon if it gets them a very remote shot at just a chance at some p***y. We as a society are f****d unless we develop some f'n backbone. Women, in general..there are exceptions...just like with...say...muslims, should not be taken seriously. They are weak, their threats lack any serious gravity, and we put ourselves in serious jeopardy by tolerating their crap. That is all. Well, I actually do have more but...it might upset some people.

ccscientist

WTP: you aren't wrong. It can be seen in everyday life where if you walk into a room and a women jumps, "you scared me" is supposed to be taken seriously. Or the party I was at where a woman was freaking out about an object on the floor--claiming it was a spider. It was a grape. Yet we were supposed to take her seriously. A minor incident can send women to the fainting couch for the rest of the day. They then take this psychology to the broader world and claim that a campus talk with which they disagree (or were told is bad without even checking) is "actual violence" that threatens to "erase them". Some rude tweets (funny though) by Trump became the end of the world. They were unable to reason about the crazy russia conspiracy thing and see it for being nonsense (Putin sure got a bad deal from trump if they were in cahoots). Woke men then have adopted this language and tone.

pst314

WTP: I think today's women have been trained to be what they are. The women who were born in the first decades of the 20th Century were quite different.

I am personally acquainted with pussy-hat-wearing believe-all-women women and with the pussy-fied and semi-pussy-fied men who married them. Not sure what to do besides confront them on their lies and hypocrisy.

pst314

And it's not all that rare for estranged wives and girlfriends to tell lies. Speaking of which, I recently saw a short clip taken from a Jordan Peterson interview in which he remarked that where men will get physical, women will engage in reputation destruction.

Watcher In The Dark

How many times can dear old planet Earth be saved, or indeed how many times can the universe be saved? According to Marvel, it seems to about once a month. Maybe more if it's a leap year.

Better still, saved with dazzling lights and big explosions.

At this point you can tell I can't be arsed to watch any of them.

David

How many times can dear old planet Earth be saved, or indeed how many times can the universe be saved? According to Marvel, it seems to about once a month.

Well, it’s sort of a tradition.

Though there was an issue of Doctor Strange in which he basically just walks to and from the shops.

David

By the way, I’ve started watching Midnight Mass on Netflix. Only two episodes in, but so far, so good.

WTP

How many times can dear old planet Earth be saved, or indeed how many times can the universe be saved?

My wife and I were noticing this trend, not just comic book movies where saving the world/universe is kind of a theme, where so many movies coming out were dark and depressing about world famines or diseases or comets crashing, etc. I remember joking that I wished the world would just f'n end and get over itself. Then after thinking about it for 5 seconds said that it was almost as if "the powers" were psychologically preparing people for some sort of BS to control them. I was half-joking but it fit in with how the fear and panic were being cranked up another notch every hurricane season with every hurricane or even threat of a hurricane. Again, what I saw in central Florida going into Labor Day weekend, the melt down in the grocery stores and the gas stations drying up ON WEDNESDAY when hurricane Dorian was still three or four days away...well COVID-2020 should not have been a surprise. Especially how our governments reacted to it.

WTP

That should of course be "Labor Day weekend 2019".

And again, I blame the women. Mostly.

ccscientist

there has always been an idea out there that the world is going to end/catastrophe. In the far past people were not exactly wrong since a plague or war was likely at any moment. But I think it relates to our insecurity due to our knowledge of death. With media and the internet and our poor judgement of risk, the urge to do something about the crises around us (even if exaggerated) is hard to resist. The internet deludes people into thinking their personal statements are a big deal. Hence 24/7 hysteria.

asiaseen

I think today's women have been trained to be what they are. The women who were born in the first decades of the 20th Century were quite different.
Whilst I agree with the first part of that statement, I'm not sure that the second part is entirely true. Look back into Victorian/Edwardian fiction (and probably earlier) and ladies were always swooning in a faint at the slightest upset, imagined or real, and implicitly demanding a liberal nasal application of smelling salts to aid their recovery. Yes, it was largely a class thing - housemaids, dairymaids and the like were exempt and just expected to get on with life.

Today, I suspect it is just that the class distinction has been removed and the modus operandi has changed from passive to active.

Baceseras

there was an issue of Doctor Strange in which he basically just walks to and from the shops

I saw Doctor Strange walking up Broadway. He turned into a drugstore.

Sam Duncan

“I saw Doctor Strange walking up Broadway. He turned into a drugstore.”

“I walked into a lamp post the other day. There wasn't much room in there, so I just walked back out again.” - Chic Murray.

pst314

Look back into Victorian/Edwardian fiction (and probably earlier) and ladies were always swooning

I don't know much about the real lives of Victorian men and women. But I do women of my mother's generation, born after WWI and before WWII, were not snowflakes. Not at all.

TimT

Then after thinking about it for 5 seconds said that it was almost as if "the powers" were psychologically preparing people for some sort of BS to control them.

It's a perennial theme. Occurs in plenty of myths, which tend to have a lot of just so stories - 'how does the world end?' Goes with the other myth, 'how does the world begin'? I am very fond of a good apocalyptic tale, so as you can imagine I'm pretty disappointed by what we're given for apocalypses these days.

It's not like real life isn't lacking for such events anyway. In the middle of the first few waves of the Black Plague, red hot out of Asia and sweeping its way through the European continent, it must have seemed like end times.

I have a theory that the frequent apocalypse-tales you see in which London becomes empty/devastated - from 'Doctor Who' to '28 Days Later' - are in some ways replaying the various traumas inflicted on that city (the Plague, the Great Fire, the Blitz). Maybe that explains why less apocalypses end up in my home city, Melbourne, Australia. (Though there are two 'buts' to that - one might object that this theory ignores the devastation wreaked on the Aboriginal inhabitants of these lands during colonisation - true, but the apocalypses tend to be written by the colonisers and tend to reflect their own cultural experiences and memories. And the other 'but' - when they filmed 'On the Beach' in Melbourne, Ava Gardner did reportedly describe Melbourne as 'A great place to make a film about the end of the world' - heh!)

pst314

Real or satire?

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