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The Sound Of Shoehorning

Do You See Clown-Self?

This just in. Clown-self pronouns:

In this situation, I would make sure that I exclusively use clown pronouns to talk about Cypress, so Cypress knows that I see clownself for who clown is.

Please update your files and lifestyles accordingly.

If you would like Maybe Burke, above, to provide “personal growth trainings” – say, regarding how you may speak when transgender people both are and aren’t present - by all means, knock yourself out.

Apparently, we non-transgender people, almost the entire human race, are supposed to embrace the prefix cis and use it continually, habitually, in order to suggest that being transgender is in no way atypical, niche, or anomalous. And to erase distinctions between, say, actual women and trans women, i.e., men with mental health problems. And this is said by someone bedevilled by urges to control what others may say, even in private, and even to control what they may think. Which itself is rather noteworthy. One might say anomalous.*

Also, open thread. Share ye links and bicker. *Added via the comments. 

Comments

Rafi

Is this the singularity?

David

Is this the singularity?

Heh. It’s entirely possible that the question asked in the video is trolling, some mischievous bait; but the answer appears unironic, if somewhat unhinged, and is difficult to distinguish from the person’s other replies, and general mouthings.

David

Other great chunks of wisdom include,

The reality is, there’s no ethical consumption under capitalism.

And,

In reality, the only way to realise somebody is trans is if they’ve told you that they are trans.

Reality is a term that crops up quite often.

WTP

“personal growth trainings” ...just a thought but perhaps these people are really badass drug lords and crime kingpins creating these personas to offer such "services" as a money laundering scheme? That's a universe I would prefer to live in anyway.

David

I see we’re wearing the same shirt. Well, this is embarrassing.

Stephanie Richer

[A]nd gives me an opportunity to tell you where I stand on them.

But . . . no one cares.

sH2

🤡

James

I see mad people.

Watcher In The Dark

'The reality is, there’s no ethical consumption under capitalism.'

Good news! The reality is, there is no consumption under socialism, either ethical or unethical.

Joan

say, regarding how you may speak when transgender people both are and aren’t present

No, thanks.

David

No, thanks.

Indeed. But apparently, we non-transgender people, almost the entire human race, are supposed to embrace the prefix cis and use it continually, habitually, in order to suggest that being transgender is in no way atypical, niche, or anomalous. And to erase distinctions between, say, actual women and trans women, i.e., men with mental health problems.

And this is said by someone bedevilled by urges to control what others may say, even in private, and even to control what they may think. Which itself is rather noteworthy. One might say anomalous.

pst314

I have heard that TikTok, which is Chinese-owned, promotes material likely to be corrosive to Western cultures.

pst314

“personal growth trainings”

Personal Growth Trainings for Make Benefit Glorious Nation of Wackadoodle.

David Davis

The sheer arrogance of small but highly-dangerous and self-regarding people needs to be seen to be believed.

The trouble is that we are seeing it more and more. And when we comment rationally about it in places like "the World Of Mr Sugar-Mountain", we get shoved into one of his prisons.

I liked tha comment by somebody above, who remarked quite accurately that "There is no consumption under socialism, whether ethical or unethical." Hats off to you, whoever you are!

pst314

Today's words are "performative" and "psychotic".

WTP

I see we’re wearing the same shirt. Well, this is embarrassing.

Yes, it's an ugly shirt. Looks good on you though!

I'm vacationing so God only knows what will pop up. Though my "shirt" has been changing for the last few months now. Oddly.

TDK

The pronouns are easy!

Farnsworth M Muldoon

I have heard that TikTok, which is Chinese-owned, promotes material likely to be corrosive to Western cultures.

There is a reason President Trump banned it for the military.

Of course that doesn't explain why nitwits in basic are allowed to have phones, but my cynical money is this whole lot being on sick call complaining of knee pain on the morning of the road march.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

Meanwhile, who knew plants have eggs?

asiaseen

I see we’re wearing the same shirt

Isn't it a bit crowded in there?

Notice in its peroration the clown pronoun person slips up at the end "...MY voice"

WTP

Re open thread, a travel tip...if you find yourself in the Ft. Lauderdale area on a Sunday and are thinking about dropping a couple of C-notes on brunch, I highly recommend Blue Moon Fish Company. All you can eat oysters, shrimp, prime rib roast beef, lamb (and I generally don't like lamb unless done right...this was best ever...better than Mom's I dare say), sushi, unlimited mimosas and/or bloody mary's (and be careful on the mimosas as they keep filling your glass unless you insist you're done), cornbread, desserts, crabcakes, lobster rolls, crab legs, salmon, etc. etc. etc. Coffee is extra, though. Generally all-you-can-eat is mediocre food but this was all quality stuff. Served by very friendly staff, on the water where you can watch the yachts wait for the bridge to open. And money well spent as we still haven't been hungry since yesterday.

Boomzilla

Protip: the "cis-" is silent.

Squires

...my cynical money is this whole lot being on sick call complaining of knee pain on the morning of the road march.

Even twenty-odd years ago a buddy of mine learned very quickly that the rules female enlistees had to follow were not the same as those the males had to live up to.

ccscientist

The company that sent the anti-republican email/tweet presumes facts not in evidence. Apparently treating minorities like regular people and trying to give everyone opportunities is racist, but treating them like children who can't find a polling place or get ID to vote is not racist. Got it.

Tik-tok is so clearly gathering tons of info for China. As is zoom, which no gov office should use, but they do.

Pronouns: the idiots end up talking about themselves in the third person. What makes them think we want to talk about them at all? Oh, and since pronouns are invisible to an observer and can change at any time and are non-standard (there are lots of them), they are demanding the impossible.

"no ethical consumption under capitalism". huh. If you open a lemonade stand with $20 worth of lemonade, that is capitalism. In East Germany, the gov decided that one type of car was good enough and you could only buy a Trabant: no seatbelts, AC, power windows, heat, ABS, 4WD nothing. Not legal to buy anything else. What they imagine socialism is vs what it really is...I'm just speechless. As for "exploitation"--yes, companies do exploit sometimes, but workers exploit the company too. Do they imagine that under socialism jobs are just pleasant and easy? ha!

Farnsworth M Muldoon

...you could only buy a Trabant: no seatbelts...

TBF, the average Josef could also get a Wartburg, and the Trabis had seatbelts, and if you were high enough in the party, a Lada or Moskovitch from Russia.

Darleen

Of course that doesn't explain why nitwits in basic are allowed to have phones

My grandson is currently at the Naval Recruit Training Command, Great Lakes. His phone was taken away to be stored until after grad from boot. Communication with outside word is via snail mail (though he was allowed to call his mom at Christmas).

tj

Today's words are "performative" and "psychotic".

WAUWATOSA, Wis. - Wauwatosa-based Penzeys Spices, a national company, is calling Republicans "racists."

... In 2014, Penzey wrote that residents of Waukesha County had "fled west" to escape diversity in Milwaukee.

Penzey's Spices was founded in Milwaukee too. I'm sure our hero wanted to keep his family business in a vibrant urban area, but there he is in 90% white Wauwatosa, demeaning the whites who moved for the ignoble reason of not wanting their children to be beaten up in school.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wauwatosa%2C_Wisconsin

The lush Menomonee Valley of the Wauwatosa area provided a key overland gateway between the rich glacial farmland of southeastern Wisconsin and the Port of Milwaukee.

What a beautiful sentence. Rodgers and Hammerstein could make a song out of those sounds and images. We know we belong to the land, and the land we belong to is grand.

Richard Cranium
Even twenty-odd years ago a buddy of mine learned very quickly that the rules female enlistees had to follow were not the same as those the males had to live up to.

That goes back 40 years now, as it so happens.

Darleen

How to make spellchecker more annoying. And when will it stop being something you have to opt into and becomes the default?

Karl

... and becomes the default

Not perhaps the smoothest segue, but I wondered why the IMDB reviews of woke garbage movies I'd like to avoid had suddenly become inexplicably enthusiastic. Then I noticed that they have changed the default sort order from "Helpfulness" (which does what it says on the tin) to "Prolific Viewer" (which means "shill").

Or is it just me?

aelfheld
Reality is a term that crops up quite often.

They keep using that word. I do not think it means what they think it means.

ccscientist

"In reality" translation: "my personal preference"

semi retired conservative

Is this the singularity?

I'd say we're getting closer to Ragnarok..

and I don't mean the tecnicolour M-She-U version.

asiaseen

“That’s why we let users be in control of their final output."

For now...

Farnsworth M Muldoon

How to make spellchecker more annoying.

MS Word became unuseable when they came out with that "ribbon" POS (that takes up a third of a page) to replace the toolbar.

Screw MS - Libre Office, or Apache Open Office. Nigh seamless transition from MS, free, and take up a fraction of disc space.

pst314

MS Word became unuseable when they came out with that "ribbon" POS (that takes up a third of a page) to replace the toolbar.

Should we attribute this to the "young punk engineers who want to redesign everything" disease? It has been joked that if the auto industry were like the IT industry, then auto controls would be radically changed ever 5 years, with steering wheels being replaced by yokes and then joysticks and then trackballs. The positions of pedals would be switched around "just because". And so on.

pst314

“That’s why we let users be in control of their final output."

For now...

Waiting for autocorrect to be "enhanced"...

Farnsworth M Muldoon

Should we attribute this to the "young punk engineers who want to redesign everything" disease?

Pretty much, with a side of "designed by someone who never uses it", just as EHRs are designed by nimrods who never actually touched a patient.

It has been joked that if the auto industry were like the IT industry...

That should read "It had been joked...", no one can explain to me why going to a gigantic touch screen (that will crap out in five years to be replaced for much spondulix) and going through different menus to change the heater/AC fan speed is better than turning a knob one can reach without looking.

Darleen

then auto controls would be radically changed ever 5 years, with steering wheels being replaced by yokes and then joysticks and then trackballs.

Ford, 1965

pst314

turning a knob one can reach without looking.

This x 1000.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

Saab...Mercedes experimented with joysticks also.

pst314

Ford, 1965

Concept car, right?

Daniel Ream

Should we attribute this to the "young punk engineers who want to redesign everything" disease?

No. Engineers don't design the UX, and they don't decide the UX priorities.

What happened is Microsoft won the application suite wars. While they were trying to win, they put a lot of effort into understanding what people didn't like about WordPerfect, 1-2-3, et al. and addressing that. Once they won the war, they were in the position of having to release a new product every so often, and so UX design shifted from "what makes it easier to use the product" to "what looks exciting in a 5 minute demo".

As for the ribbon, Microsoft's biggest problem is releasing products that are too advanced for the actual market. Bob, the Windows 8 shell, the Office ribbon all were designed for hardware that wasn't common enough yet.

no one can explain to me why going to a gigantic touch screen (that will crap out in five years to be replaced for much spondulix)

You just did. Now do factory-original audio systems that have the security module embedded in them.

pst314

Saab...Mercedes experimented with joysticks also.

Again, experimental and concept car models, right?

pst314

You just did.

Yup.

Now do factory-original audio systems that have the security module embedded in them.

What, you mean so you cannot replace the audio system with one you prefer?

Farnsworth M Muldoon

Again, experimental and concept car models, right?

Yep, and bad concepts at that...

pst314

Yep, and bad concepts at that...

Well, it got them attention at car shows...

Farnsworth M Muldoon

Well, it got them attention at car shows...

True, but so did this, not that you would want to drive it daily...

Richard Cranium
That should read "It had been joked...", no one can explain to me why going to a gigantic touch screen (that will crap out in five years to be replaced for much spondulix) and going through different menus to change the heater/AC fan speed is better than turning a knob one can reach without looking.

Instead of looking for the rear-window defroster button, I hit the switch on the steering wheel that tells the car to start listening to me and said "rear defroster on" and it was so. That was when driving a 2009 Honda Accord (which I still have) in Texas, where we don't need defrosters that often. It's got a 5-speed manual transmission, so I'm selective in my tech upgrades. It has a display but not a touchscreen.

My wife's 2008 Lexus (which we still have) does have a touchscreen, but it's too cumbersome to use. The voice interface is insane. You cannot guess the voice commands by using the menus a couple of times. The touchscreen still works, so there's that.

ComputerLabRat

Faffing about with the touchscreen built in to one's car while driving - perfectly fine.
Faffing about with the touchscreen of one's mobile phone while driving - better not get caught by the police.

I'm glad my old truck hasn't got there yet, touchscreen-wise - just a display, but not for things I would be doing while driving.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

Instead of looking for the rear-window defroster button...

Bad placement - the most brilliant design was the E30 BMWs which even had the center of the dash angled towards the driver for better ergonomics and everything placed withing easy reach without searching. Don't get me started on buttons on the steering wheel.

OTOH, for a few semesters I was gainfully employed as a valet parker and saw no end of stupid stuff, though my favorite was some French mess that had the gear shift coming straight out of the middle of the dash. Being French, it did not have the shift pattern on the knob, some some guesswork was involved.

The voice interface is insane.

The Sync crap (Microsoft, go figure) in a Ford F-150 is equally rubbish, trying to get it just to play the USB stick let alone pick an album or artist is maddening.

Steve E

my favorite was some French mess that had the gear shift coming straight out of the middle of the dash

I seem to recall the Corvair having a dash mounted gear shift. It was an automatic though. I think it was call powerglide.

sonny wayz

@Steve E

I *think* the PRNDL stick on the Corvair was a simple up/down thing, basically the same as a column shift.

The French dash mounted gearchange I remember tried to convince you it was a floor mount manual shift, with in and out, side to side, etc. Um, that sounded a bit kinky, remember I'm talking about shifting gears.

Steve E

Um, that sounded a bit kinky

Funny, I started hearing this song in my head.

I *think* the PRNDL stick on the Corvair was a simple up/down thing

I've driven many a three on the tree and there were a few cars where the ignition was in the centre console between the front seats--Saab.

Daniel Ream

trying to get it just to play the USB stick let alone pick an album or artist is maddening

That's the Martian Headsets problem. The union of all possible USB filesystem formats, digital audio formats, and digital audio metadata formats is very, very large, and the SoCs in most automotive electronics are very, very limited.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

That's the Martian Headsets problem.

More like exceptionally crappy voice recognition and command structure.

"Play album Allman brothers"

        "Did you mean ham and cheese on rye?"

"Allman Brothers"

        "Do you want to send health report now?"

Rinse and repeat.

Daniel Ream

More like exceptionally crappy voice recognition

Oh, that's a different problem and one not easily solved without a lot of computing power. When you talk to Google, Alexa or Siri it's recording your voice, uploading it to a very large neural network in the cloud that figures out what you're saying and returns the result to your device. If the only thing doing the processing is the SoCs in your car I'd be surprised voice rec works at all.

I've no idea what the current state of the art is in this field but eventually someone will figure out how to put a multi-node neural network into an ASIC or SoC and then things will get interesting. Google probably already knows how to do it but there's no benefit to them not harvesting your information.

Connor

They keep using that word. I do not think it means what they think it means.

That.

Karl

not that you would want to drive it daily...

Drive it daily??

I'd be afraid to even stand near it when the owner started it up.

David

No, thanks.

Being scolded by the self-absorbed ain’t everyone’s cup of tea.

If someone is clearly preoccupied by their own anomalousness, such that their every TikTok video is a restatement of their own imagined non-conformist fabulousness, and if, simultaneously, they demand that we view them as in no way anomalous, while also insisting that we accommodate their fantasy about themselves, even in private… this is a big ask.

If their departure from the norm is unworthy of attention, something to be ignored, or pretended away, then why has this person seemingly built their entire life around it? Why, then, is it enacted, performatively, at every opportunity? It seems to me that demands for being seen as ordinary don’t sit terribly well with the grating narcissism on display and a never-ending theatre of eccentricity. Especially when that theatre of eccentricity has to be imposed on everyone else, with mandatory affectations and the policing of thought.

“All that we’re asking…” says he.

PiperPaul



Honda had this too.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

I've driven many a three on the tree ...

The Trabant four on the tree, completely bassackwards, not including the push-pull.

Jacobus

Mitsubishi has a "nudge" shifter (in production vehicles). You push it in the desired direction and it springs back to centre. Takes a little getting used to, but works quite well. (Park is a button on the base, just forward of the stick)

pst314

If someone is clearly preoccupied by their own anomalousness...

And if they demonstrate their "specialness"and "intelligence" by inventing an arcane vocabulary, and demand that we use it, and refuse to use or even understand our conventional English, we may tell them to sod off.

pst314

White supremacist? "someone started shooting during a MLK Celebration".

K M. Alaharris

"...In East Germany, the gov decided that one type of car was good enough and you could only buy a Trabant...."

Bernie Sanders, Socialist of Many Mansions, declared a few years ago that "we" didn't need 50 different types of toothpaste. He said it was wasteful and confusing.

And he calls himself a progressive!

Adam

I seem to recall the Corvair having a dash mounted gear shift. It was an automatic though. I think it was call powerglide.

The Pontiac Tempest in its original 1960s edition had a dash mounted gear selection lever. The Tempest was noteworthy for its front-mounted engine and rear transmission.

My mother owned a 1962 Tempest LeMans convertible for a time.

You can buy that car today online for about $6000 - 2.5x times its original price.

sonny wayz

@F M Muldoon

not that you would want to drive it daily...

Good Lord, is that *two* 6-71 blowers???

Jen

while also insisting that we accommodate their fantasy about themselves, even in private… this is a big ask.

I'll pass, thank you.

David

I’ll pass, thank you.

Well, to be expected to not only change how you refer to the person in question, even in private, out of earshot, but also change how you refer to yourself, at all times, as if you must always be described in relation to them, as if they were so fascinating, so cosmically important, is a bit much. It suggests a level of self-preoccupation that simply isn’t healthy.

David

Somewhat related:

We live in a society that is fundamentally transphobic by virtue of the fact that being cisgender is positioned as normative.

The word positioned is practically creaking under the strain.

ccscientist

"cisgender is positioned as normative"--that is an awful pretentious use of words. No one "positions" heterosexuality as "normative"--it IS normal. Without it we would cease to reproduce and go extinct.

It is telling that the trans clowns David keeps finding online insist that they are "normal" while trying to be as outlandish and strange looking as possible (green hair, face rings). They don't try to look like a normal man or woman and fit in (although the only professional trans person I have met did and he looked like a not very attractive 50 yr old woman). They intend to shock and disturb but we should all pretend not to be disturbed or shocked. Self-contradiction is a hallmark of the Left.

Wrong for Noticing?

maybe if he didn't have a dick-nose...

Farnsworth M Muldoon

Good Lord, is that *two* 6-71 blowers???

David

Is that mustard velour…? A bold choice.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

Is that mustard velour…?

Yes, and like the beehive hairdo, it is always tasteful.

ComputerLabRat

Is that mustard velour…?

It looked more chartreuse in the first pic.

Was it here I saw linked an entire house done up in these eye-watering shades of green/yellow with shag carpeting and such? This vehicle would fit right in.

Steve E

Good Lord, is that *two* 6-71 blowers???

I like that they stuck with the bias belted tires. A lot of guys would have gone to radials.

The tub represents the amount of gas needed for a spin around the block.

pst314

Was it here I saw linked an entire house done up in these eye-watering shades of green/yellow with shag carpeting and such?

Might have been a link to Best of Zillow.

pst314

Speed control camera.

pst314

Giving the neighbors the gift of fine art.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

I like that they stuck with the bias belted tires.

Could be Cokers, they make radials with period correct bias look and nigh anything else period correct - like XAS for your showroom resto BMW 2002.

Daniel Ream

And if they demonstrate their "specialness"and "intelligence" by inventing an arcane vocabulary, and demand that we use it, and refuse to use or even understand our conventional English, we may tell them to sod off.

Have you noticed how much of this bollocks is arts majors adopting, cargo cult style, the behaviour they observe in successful STEM professionals?

I read a lengthy Medium screed by a female JavaScript[1] developer about how she didn't get hired because of patriarchy, while also admitting that when asked about SOLID she thought the 'O' stood for 'Observability'[2].

The level of both Dunning-Kruger and as David puts it, chippy mediocrity is quite stunning.

[1] That's the first clue she's not a real developer
[2] And that's the second

pst314

Damn, even the British seagulls are drunken yobs.

pst314

The level of both Dunning-Kruger and as David puts it, chippy mediocrity is quite stunning.

Related: Victor Davis Hanson discussed the decline of academia in a recent podcast--this one, I think. These were retrospective remarks on observations he and colleagues made 20 year ago in "Who Killed Homer" and "Bonfire of the Humanities" (both still in print). For instance, recently graduated ivy league Classics scholars no longer had a deep fluency in Greek and Latin, and did not have a deep and wide familiarity with the history and literature of Greece and Rome. Instead, they mostly only knew (and were only interested in) some narrow, fashionably political topic such as nontraditional gender roles in the poetry of blahblahblah.

pst314

Aack! Failed to remove last line of text I was editing. Can you delete that, David? Or will my shame remain forever on display?

David

Can you delete that, David? Or will my shame remain forever on display?

[ Uses mighty shame-sparing powers.]

pst314

[ Tears of gratitude run down cheeks. ]

pst314

I should have written that the above ivy league Classics graduates were people that Victor Davis Hanson and colleagues were interviewing for teaching positions. So, fresh out of grad school from prestigious institutions but poorly educated and useless to the students they would be teaching.

ComputerLabRat

Or will my shame remain forever on display?

At least you didn't leave your open italics html dangling...

Steve E

like XAS for your showroom resto BMW 2002.

The XAS was always a radial tire. We couldn't let any new guys install them at the tire shop because they would invariably get the direction wrong on at least one of the tires and risk pinching the tube when they had to reinstall. We actually sold quite a few XAS tires and even the odd set of XWXs.

The guy who owned the shop was one of the first Michelin dealers in Canada. I had some great Bib swag back in the day. Unfortunately it's all gone now.

David

At least you didn’t leave your open italics html dangling...

[ From kitchen, muttering, a clattering of pans. ]

sonny wayz

"...like XAS for your showroom resto BMW 2002."

So I had to check, and sure enough, Dunlop is still making K81s. I remember [redacted].

Farnsworth M Muldoon

The XAS was always a radial tire.

Yeah, I know, was just noting the range of period tires they make including tyres for old MGs and the like. I was annoyed when the XAS were discontinued, though.

pst314

Happy woman.

Steve E

Yeah, I know,

Sorry, I misread that.

Yeah, the XAS was an awesome tire. Because we sold Michelin and actually stocked the stuff that fit the imports, we did a lot of business with the import dealers. One day the British Leyland dealer had two MGBs in to swap out the Dunlop tires, one was getting ZX tires and the other was getting XAS. The cars were otherwise equally equipped. We took them out for an "independent" test drive. There was a nearby road that twisted and turned and rose and fell that we affectionately nicknamed Nurburgring. The XAS-equipped car hands down out-handled the ZX-equipped car. Both significantly outperformed the Dunlops. We actually sold a ton of 10 inch XAS for Minis.

Alex

Happy woman.

A bananananab!

LW

Social Justice Warriors discover natural selection.

In North American red squirrels (Tamiasciurus hudsonicus), a mother may store spruce cones on her territory and privilege her daughter by bequeathing a rich territory to her; daughters who receive these resources survive longer and reproduce earlier than those without (Smith 1968).

Wow, so there's an evolutionary reason for animals to find and defend productive territories. Who would have imagined that, without the aid of SJW thinking?

Male food hoarders can also influence the lifetime fitness of subsequent owners of middens and these effects persist across multiple owners (Fisher et al. 2019).

So -- you're saying that forgotten stashes of food can be found by unrelated other animals (possibly not even of the same species)? Imagine that!

olwyn

“All that we’re asking…” says he.

I decide, not you, what my place is in your life. I can other myself as disruptively as I choose but you don't get to other me. I can behave as ridiculously as I like but you don't get to ridicule me. I will be monitoring you not only for formal compliance but for consent - sincere, enthusiastic, and ongoing consent, the absence of which puts you at fault.

The level of both Dunning-Kruger and as David puts it, chippy mediocrity is quite stunning.

The title goes with the theme: "If You Passed On Me, Your Interview Process Is Garbage".

Paul Graham's essay on Two Kinds of Judgement has been a consolation to many people who have to put up with stupid job interviews. His point is that it's not about you, it's not like a betrayal from a parent or a teacher who has failed to see your potential. The company just has its own problems and its own priorities for taking people on board. Of course, an organization filtering newcomers based on its own interests is now problematic, as is telling self-centered malcontents that the world doesn't revolve around them.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

Sorry, I misread that.

No worries, I could have been clearer. I first had the Dunlop Sport Aquajets which were flat amazing in the rain and light snow, but every one of them got a bubble in the sidewall sooner or later which is why I switched to the XAS which I could barely afford at the time. Be interesting to see how Coker's Dunlops and XAS compare to the originals if they came in a size I could use.

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