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As A Woman, Just Like You, His Preferences Override Yours

Lifted from the comments - which you’re reading, of course - regarding this rather animated chap and his gushing sisterliness:  

And if you ladies would rather not find Camp Creepy Manic Guy in your bathroom or changing room, this is, he insists, proof of your own “internalised misogyny,” and it’s “up to you to unlearn” your foolish female ways. Because, you see, it’s “patriarchy” when women don’t want to get undressed in front of a mentally ill man. To avoid said “patriarchy,” you must submit. To him

He describes himself, modestly, as a “gender educator.”

Update, via the comments:

Chappie above, James, is apparently an “actress.” And “annoyingly hot.” As you can doubtless tell from his pretty nails, which he seems to regard as some ultimate measure of womanhood, and from the numerous videos of him parading around in his underwear while somewhat tightly wound. And remember, ladies, our “gender educator” only feels like a woman sometimes. So those visits to your bathrooms and changing rooms could go either way. A comfort, no doubt.

Update 2

Somewhat related, this.

Comments

David

And remember, ladies, our “gender educator” only feels like a woman sometimes. So those visits to your bathrooms and changing rooms could go either way.

A comfort, no doubt.

Alice

Because, you see, it’s “patriarchy” when women don’t want to get undressed in front of a mentally ill man.

Lefties project.

David

Lefties project.

It’s quite the inversion.

David

Still, it’s good to know that a man lecturing women, telling them that they don’t know their own minds, and that not submitting to men - specifically him - is actually “patriarchy,” is now the height of intersectional feminism.

Burnsie

Isn't he special? All I see here is raging narcissism in search of attention. I had to tap out at 0:42. I couldn't stomach another second of it.

A comfort, no doubt.

Just the guy you want to see follow your 10-year-old daughter into a ladies room.

I wonder--what gender will he choose for his mugshot?

David

I had to tap out at 0:42. I couldn’t stomach another second of it.

But he has so much to teach us. Albeit inadvertently.

Burnsie

But he has so much to teach us.

Spout the latest gender incantations and presto, he's a wizard?

I suppose it's more glamorous than just being a plain-vanilla bisexual. And it certainly opens more doors, so to speak.

David

Chappie above, James, is apparently an “actress.” And “annoyingly hot.”

Nikw211

Albeit inadvertently

Explains the hopefully self-appointed gender educator:

    It's important to recognise that we can't tell someone's gender by their presentation, by their genitals, by the way that they look. All of that can be changed. All of that is arbitrary. None of that is central to your identity.

So, in other words, it is impossible to tell whether what appears to be an obvious man in a women's bathroom, a changing room, spa, and on at least one well-known occasion, letting it all hang out, and in front of minors no less, is in fact an obvious man?

And likewise, if it isn't "central to your identity" whence the histrionics surrounding being misgendered? (The waiter with "They" earrings, as just one online example).

    The false media narrative and trope around transpeople is that we are predators that are tricking people into thinking we're something that we're not.

While very clearly not everyone who is trans is a predator or has any predatory inclinations, the whole enterprise does seem to pretty much revolve around getting others to accept that they are something they are not, at least on some level.

David

I had to tap out at 0:42. I couldn’t stomach another second of it.

The high-security wing of transgender TikTok is not for the faint-hearted.

John

Identical in every respect to the stunning and brave dude winning the NCAA woman’s swimming championships without even having to use his long legs leaving 2 Tokyo Olympic medalists (with vaginas) trailing in his wake.

Woman of the year candidate material. Both of them.

Rafi

All of that is arbitrary.

As our host would say, the word 'arbitrary' is doing some heavy lifting.

Nikw211

Related

pst314

And if you ladies would rather not find Camp Creepy Manic Guy in your bathroom or changing room, this is, he insists, proof of your own “internalised misogyny,” and it’s “up to you to unlearn” your foolish female ways.

Heh.

pst314

While very clearly not everyone who is trans is a predator or has any predatory inclinations...

I meet supposedly intelligent and thoughtful people who will quickly and easily pivot from "Don't let the bathroom controversy make you hate all trans people, because not all of them are predators" to "Segregating males and females into separate bathrooms and changing facilities is an arbitrary social convention and therefore there is no logical reason to cling to it".

LW

I was thinking about the insulting terms "bleeder" and "vagina-haver" and "prostate-lacker". The problem people who use those revolting terms have, is that they're trying to express "adult human female", but they can't use the traditional term, "woman", because they've repurposed it to mean "man who doesn't want to be a man". (What? Oh, right. I guess it's "man who doesn't want to be a man, or person who wasn't ever a man").

Maybe they should just use "adult human female" and cut out the insults and references to body parts and functions.

pst314

Maybe they should just use "adult human female" and cut out the insults and references to body parts and functions.

Or they could just stop catering to the language commissars.

LW

Or they could just stop catering to the language commissars.

Well, that too, but that would be transphobic and misogynist. Or something. Can't have that.

pst314

Arrgh! Do not comment before coffee! If you delete my 12:48 comment, David, I will fix the horrible grammar.

Ted S., Catskill Mtns, NY, USA

Horrible grammar isn't as bad as forgetting to close the italics tag.

David

Deleted, as requested.

ccscientist

Feminists have the past few decades gone so far as to say that a dirty joke on campus was enough to get you expelled or your fraternity disbanded (like one fraternity that hung a banner encouraging parents to drop their girls off there and got in big trouble), that a long look (the male gaze) was "assault", that even if the sex was consensual if the boy didn't follow up with flowers it was assault, and so on. Consent was all the rage. And just like that, a physically appearing man can go in the ladies showers and it is no big deal. While it is true that having separate male and female showers is a social convention (in some parts of Europe they have coed saunas, in Germany long ago at the Berlin airport I saw a middle-aged women in the men's restroom cleaning while in use) a small group forcing the abolition of separate facilities is not a good way to get social change. The claims that it is not a problem because not ALL trans people are predators is completely missing the point, because, as just pointed out, you can't tell who is trans really, it need not be all of them to be a problem, and women do not (and I repeat not) like getting undressed in front of XY people or seeing a penis in their private space. I also emphasize that very very few trans go so far as to get castrated and get a fake vagina.
Anyone else note the crazy eyes on this guy?

pst314

Deleted, as requested.

[ Tears of shame replaced by tears of gratitude. ]

pst314

Well, that too, but that would be transphobic and misogynist. Or something. Can't have that.

And the more their status and sense of self worth is connected to being Smarter Than The Average Bear, the more likely they are to follow fashionable delusions.

pst314

...the more likely they are to follow fashionable delusions.

See, perhaps, Dante's Inferno, in which the opportunists are doomed to endlessly chase banners which are either blank or constantly changing.

pst314

Horrible grammar isn't as bad as forgetting to close the italics tag.

[ Remembrance of past sins triggers even deeper shame. ]

David

[ Tears of shame replaced by tears of gratitude. ]

As long as you’re crying, that’s all that matters.

pst314

As long as you’re crying, that’s all that matters.

[ Looks down. Frowns. ] The tears are diluting my drink.

David

The tears are diluting my drink.

[ Adjusts bar tab. ]

That now counts as a large.

anon a mouse

"only feels like a woman sometimes."

Shania Twain hardest hit...

asiaseen

what gender will he choose for his mugshot?

Whatever it is, I doubt it will shave.

Nikw211

...people who will quickly and easily pivot from ...

Which is no accident of course.

And in one sense at least I think there may be reason to be grateful to the likes of Lia Thomas, Laurel Hubbard, and, USA Today's 'Woman of the Year', Admiral Rachel Levine.

Perhaps it's ironic, but the kind of 'Live and Let Live', 'You do you', 'Each to his own' etc. approach which many have taken to be both essential to and a sign of a tolerant and welcoming society is precisely the same attitude that a certain kind of activist finds to be hypocrisy, even bigotry in disguise.

The implications of which are pretty dismal.

LW

I also emphasize that very very few trans go so far as to get castrated and get a fake vagina.

If he doesn't have sufficient commitment to womanhood to get castrated and get a fake vagina, he doesn't have sufficient commitment to compete as a woman. He'd still win even if he did, but there'd be a lot fewer men pretending to be women in order to score cheap records if this were required. And they wouldn't be able to expose themselves in women's locker rooms.

Steve E

Gender fluid? I think he's down a quart.

Mags

It's like one big shit test.

https://twitter.com/JonnyRoot_/status/1504510554542587910

pst314

Is there anything that a PhD cannot ruin?

elka

... supposedly intelligent and thoughtful people who will quickly and easily pivot from...

I was going to call it a Motte and bailey, went to look it up because I can't remember which is the motte and which is the bailey, and then realized that the metaphor is precisely backwards when it applies to trans activism, because it assumes that the activists are the besieged rather than the besiegers.

In the defensive formulation, the castle (the truism the defender retreats to) is defensible but dull ("Being dark and dank, the Motte is not a habitation of choice"), and the land around the castle (the titillating claim that flatters its proponent and slanders his enemies) is where the defender wants to return to make hay when the attack has been waited out.

But trans activists aren't defenders. The power of states and corporations isn't being used to pry into their intimate spaces and search their wardrobes. On the contrary, they're using the power of states and corporations to get their exhibitionism into intimate spaces where consent hasn't been given to them.

In the besieger-centric variant of the metaphor, the attacker has easy access to the surroundings of the castle, public spaces of trade and conviviality, and that's all he claims to want, but it's boring. What he really wants is full access to the private spaces, not as a guest obliged to be grateful and not overstay his welcome, but as an insider, with all of the trust, intimacy, esteem, enthusiastic consent, and right to define "who we are" that would naturally be granted to him if the insiders were truly committed to living the claim that he's welcome, and it's not just a lie of politeness.

Darleen

The false media narrative and trope around transpeople is that we are predators that are tricking people into thinking we're something that we're not.

I've absolutely gotten no answer to my oft stated request: Tell me the objective test that separates out the "sincere" trans-sexuals from predator males.

I don't care what identity the male who deliberately exposes his penis to a 10 y/o girl claims, he is engaging in criminal behavior. Period.

LadyTheo

And soon one arrives at the insanity of a hospital refusing to acknowledge that a rape took place within its healing walls because there are no men in the women's ward. I am Argus, rolling all of my many eyes. @@@@@@@@@@@

WTP

in Germany long ago at the Berlin airport I saw a middle-aged women in the men's restroom cleaning while in use

Started seeing that at gyms here in Florida 10-15 years ago.

Darleen

Meanwhile, earlier today -- One of the Navy's newest sailors: grandson Sean graduated, Great Lakes Naval Center.

I'll just sit over here and beam proudly for a while.

Governor Squid

Just learned that I got hired for the Eau Claire project. Um, yay?

David

[ Rummages under bar, offers Darleen a glass of the good stuff. ]

[ Rummages under bar again, looks for smaller glass. ]

pst314

...While it is true that having separate male and female showers is a social convention (in some parts of Europe they have coed saunas, in Germany long ago at the Berlin airport I saw a middle-aged women in the men's restroom cleaning while in use) a small group forcing the abolition of separate facilities is not a good way to get social change.

And why must we accept that "social change" is inherently good?

We should not accept "they do it differently" as sufficient grounds for changing what we do. And have you noticed that the Bien Pensants never reverse the thinking and defend our conventions as preferable?

Furthermore, conventions and traditions have value and are worth defending: They are the accumulated wisdom of countless generations. If the Bien Pensants like Europe so much better, let them fuck off to German or Spain or wherever.

ccscientist

pst314: I was not of course defending the customs in Europe.

pst314

pst314: I was not of course defending the customs in Europe.

Understood!

Chester Draws

The separation of mens and womens toilets and changing rooms has never been about sexual matters. Gay men use male facilities. Women don't cause any trouble in male ones. Little kids don't count as male or female and use either.

It has always been about safety. Sexually active males are not a safe thing to have in a female toilet or changing room. Their supposed gender orientation doesn't change that.

Unless they've had the operation, they need to stay out.

Connor

Because, you see, it’s “patriarchy” when women don’t want to get undressed in front of a mentally ill man. To avoid said “patriarchy,” you must submit. To him.

Lol. That.

David

Lol. That.

And yet that is the gist of what he’s saying. And that’s before we get to the body language and non-verbal communication – the hands, the fingers, the unconvincing smile, the near-permanent smirk. Or the fact that he likes to make videos, lots of them, while parading around in his underpants.

It’s like one big shit test.

As noted before,

You could think of wokeness as a reminder of just how psychologically and morally deformable human beings are. A kind of cultivated neurosis. Such that, people will perform bizarre contortions and become absurd, while pretending everything is fine and twitching intermittently.

But hey, he’s obviously a real woman. I mean, he’s wearing nail polish.

Joan

It’s like one big shit test.

Ya think?

https://twitter.com/worstall/status/1505105917985099780

Nikw211

Related:

While I have some reservations about Kellie-Jay Keen ("Posie Parker", the woman in the video), I did find that quite amusing.

All of that can be changed. All of that is arbitrary.

Whether they do this by accident or design (I suspect the former, but haven't ruled out the latter), a personal bugbear of mine is that such self-appointed gender educators as blokey upthread consistently misunderstand the meaning of "arbitrary" in this context.

They always treat "arbitrary" as a synonym for "capricious" and, as such, treat it as if it applies to anything that can be changed at will (i.e. theirs).

While it's easy to see how attracted a narcissist would be to the idea that they can change anything they like because they will it to be so, that is emphatically not what "arbitrary" means in the structuralist sense which Gender Studies 101 classes are drawing on.

What is meant by the structuralist use of "arbitrary" becomes clear in the example of two people who want to play chess together who have just discovered that the pieces for both the white knight and the black queen are missing from the box.

So long as they both agree in advance that this green button here will stand in for the missing white knight and that pound coin there will stand in for the black queen, they can carry on the game as planned.

Only in this sense are those carved wooden pieces "arbitrary" since the game can still be played (the structure can continue functioning) just as well with a button and a coin in place of those two pieces.(There is a limit in this analogy - if they a board only, but no pieces, it would be a challenge for both to keep track of which buttons, coins, pebbles, etc. were which colour and which piece).

What is not arbitrary in this structuralist sense - which is the one blokey must be intending by declaring himself to be a "gender educator" - would be if the white player, since he now has a green button instead of a white knight, took it upon himself to decide that green buttons have special powers that allow them to teleport from any square to any square regardless of what pieces are in between, and moreover did so without informing black of their decision.

At that point, black has to object since whatever they are doing it would no longer be chess but something else.

All other things being equal, long hair, skirts, make-up and so on would be "arbitrary" only in the structuralist definition since a woman, an actual woman that is, is still a woman with short hair, jeans, and no make-up.

But a woman is not "arbitrary" in the second definition, the one used by blokey, since you cannot change from a man to a woman or to something in between and back again by force of will alone.

David

“I’m not a vet but I know what a dog is.”

“I think you’re twisting words.”

“I’m happy to have a real conversation, if you’d like.”

I almost laughed.

pst314

The separation of mens and womens toilets and changing rooms has never been about sexual matters. Gay men use male facilities...

But there are plenty of men who don't want to be "checked out" by gay men. Likewise women who don't want to be looked at sexually by lesbians. There have not traditionally been separate changing rooms for gays and lesbians because they were a tiny minority and because social conventions compelled them to behave with the restraint. That has, unfortunately, changed in recent decades, and a man who objects to being checked out may be accused of "homophobia" with liberal heterosexuals happily piling on.

...Little kids don't count as male or female and use either...

Many cases of the molestation of young boys occur in changing rooms. A few young girls by lesbians too, I suppose.

...It has always been about safety...

Safety is paramount, but a comfortable and stress-free social atmosphere count as well. As I remarked in an earlier thread, civilization is all about codes of conduct which enable large numbers of people to get along peacefully and even amicably in close quarters.

pst314

What is meant by the structuralist use of "arbitrary" becomes clear in the example of...

Interesting comments, thanks.

Side note: I stopped paying respectful attention decades ago to advocates of structuralism, post-structuralism, etc., because their twisty definitions seemed to keep ending up as methods for "proving" whatever assertions they made.

pst314

Because, you see, it’s “patriarchy” when women don’t want to get undressed in front of a mentally ill man.

And the heterosexual liberals who criticize those women are morally ill.

Life is better when one does not socialize with people who complain about "TERFs".

asiaseen

@darleen
Period

Except, in his case, not

Farnsworth M Muldoon

Once again, the line between real and unreal is becoming harder to tell.

WTP

Safety is paramount, but a comfortable and stress-free social atmosphere count as well.

Not only that, but the whole purpose of a restroom is to accomplish certain bodily functions. For many women this is simply not possible if they don't feel to some degree safe.

Hell, I've taken my wife to Europe six times, she still hasn't shit there once.

pst314

Sometimes Often the only good option is to put the animal down.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

Inspirational woman is an Esperantist, a language spoken by several.

David

Hell, I’ve taken my wife to Europe six times, she still hasn’t shit there once.

[ Laughs. ]

[ Looks indignant. ]

[ Laughs. ]

pst314

...she still hasn’t shit there once.

Isn't that one of the definitions of a lady?

pst314

Inspirational woman is an Esperantist, a language spoken by several.

I can't say I've ever met an Esperantist who wasn't, well, a kook. Nearly always, if not always, a socialist kook.

"One sometimes gets the impression that the mere words 'Socialism' and 'Communism' draw towards them with magnetic force every fruit-juice drinker, nudist, sandal-wearer, sex-maniac, Quaker, 'Nature Cure' quack, pacifist, and feminist in England."
--George Orwell, The Road to Wigan Pier, chapter 11

"Esperanto has also been cited as a possible inspiration for George Orwell's Newspeak. Orwell had been exposed to Esperanto in 1927 when living in Paris with his aunt Nellie Limouzin, who was then living with Eugène Lanti, a prominent Esperantist. Esperanto was the language of the house, and Orwell, who had come to Paris in part to improve his French, was obliged to find other lodging. Esperanto sought, especially at first, to reduce the number of root-words that had to be learned, so many words were formed from a single root and a variety of prefixes and suffixes. The opposite of bona ('good' in Esperanto) is malbona ('ungood'), and to intensify it one can say malbonega ('very ungood'). This was a likely inspiration for the vocabulary of Newspeak (which used words like ungood, plusungood and doubleplusungood), although in Orwell's novel, the structure of Newspeak was chosen to limit thought and the possibility of rebellious ideas."
--Wikipedia

ccscientist

Rape in the med ward item: I've got news for these idiots--even in real female cases, rape is possible [yes, lesbian rape or "sexual assault"]

pst314

...civilization is all about codes of conduct which enable large numbers of people to get along peacefully and even amicably...

Roger Scruton has written extensively about this. For instance:

"A civilization is a social entity that manifests religious, political, legal, and customary uniformity over an extended period, and which confers on its members the benefits of socially accumulated knowledge."
--"What is Culture?" in Culture Counts by Roger Scruton

"Hayek’s theory of evolutionary rationality shows how traditions and customs (those surrounding sexual relations, for example) might be reasonable solutions to complex social problems, even when, and especially when, no clear rational grounds can be provided to the individual for obeying them. These customs have been selected by the 'invisible hand' of social reproduction, and societies that reject them will soon enter the condition of 'maladaptation,' which is the normal prelude to extinction."
--Roger Scruton, "Hayek and conservatism", in Edward Feser (ed.), The Cambridge Companion to Hayek (2006)

ccscientist

Chester: when the Left talks about restrooms, they use the term in a sanitized way where there are stalls and that is that. But the stalls always have gaps, sometimes the stall doors don't latch, and women adjust their clothing or even change clothes while not in the stalls. In single-use restrooms like at gas stations, it is still important to have sex designations because very often the doors don't lock. Women assume that if a man is looking at her while she is doing private things, it means he is interested sexually and thus is threatening.
As to women in a men's shower--the men don't feel threatened per se, but it is certainly disruptive. A gay man in the mens room? Of course they are there all the time but if they stand at the next urinal and look at your dick it is uncomfortable--very strict rules about behavior there. Very bad luck if you get a boner in the mens showers. You also don't strike up conversations with strangers in the mens room.

asiaseen

Inspirational woman is an Esperantist

And a remarkably well-developed Adam's Apple. Very inspiriational.

LW

Rape in the med ward item: I've got news for these idiots--even in real female cases, rape is possible [yes, lesbian rape or "sexual assault"]

They pretend that rape is only possible if committed with a penis.

In the first place, that appears to be exactly what happened. If we're supposed to pretend that a fully equipped man is a "woman" with a "female penis", well, if "she" penetrates someone (man or woman) without consent with "her" "female penis", then "she" is guilty of rape under that definition.

In the second place, at least around here, there is the crime of "rape by instrumentation", which is unconsented-to penetration with anything other than a penis. A finger, for instance. Even a real woman can be guilty of rape by instrumentation, as ccscientist points out.

Nuuk

“I’m not a vet but I know what a dog is.”

https://www.unz.com/isteve/cults/#comment-2301238

It seems to me that a key trait in Hollywood types and cult members, more than stupidity, is a “lack of groundedness”, i.e., a willingness to accept propositions like “everything your parents taught you was a lie”. Rather than intelligent or unintelligent, I’d describe this thought pattern as “sophomoric”.

Low IQ people can easily be swindled by words like “This product will make you look like a movie star!” But it’s tougher to swindle them with words like “The heteronormative/cisnormative beauty ideals of movie stars are entirely arbitrary!”

It’s pretty tough to convince a truly low IQ person that Bruce Jenner became a beautiful woman when he chopped his dick off.

pst314

On a lighter note, Neil deGrasse Tyson is being boringly pedantic again.

On the other hand, maybe I should not mock him too severely: I have known people who believed that any science described in comic books and science fiction stories was truth (not speculative) and that it was only a matter of time before any technology depicted therein was achieved. [ Rolls eyes. ]

pst314

More bad news for advocates of Head Start and preschool in general?

ccscientist

"Bruce Jenner became a beautiful woman when he chopped his dick off." Last I heard, he still has his dick and wants to have sex with women.

pst314

I would also question the claim that as a woman he is beautiful.

Daniel Ream

I have known people who believed that any science described in comic books and science fiction stories

The mistaken notion that comic books are science fiction, rather than pulp boy's adventure akin to Tom Swift and The Hardy Boys, is particularly difficult to uproot.

One of the reasons I enjoyed Fatman so much was its brilliant deconstruction of the "darker, edgier" superhero adaptation.

Daniel Ream

That said, it does occur to me that thirty-some-odd years of the Roundhouse-Kicking Cop Chick trope in popular media does seem to have had an impact on young womens' notions of their abilities in a serious physical confrontation. So perhaps "hey, guys, you probably shouldn't stick your head in a cyclotron" isn't as tone-deaf as it sounds.

ccscientist

"Roundhouse-Kicking Cop Chick trope": hahaha yes I warned my girls that this is not physically possible most of the time. I said "go ahead, punch me in the chest" and when they tried I caught their fist in my hand. they were in college at the time, not little.
Yes, I have seen the videos where a woman beats the shit out of a mugger, but those vids get so many views just because it is so amazing. More plausible is the vid from sweden of 3 female cops trying to arrest a drunk man. He just swats them away until a male cop shows up and cuffs him. Having female cops out on the beat increases the risk of someone getting shot because they are unable to subdue a suspect without lethal force.

Daniel Ream

I said "go ahead, punch me in the chest" and when they tried I caught their fist in my hand. they were in college at the time, not little

I once had a 5'0" female brown belt claim she could kick my ass in the ring (I was 6'3" and 230lbs at the time). Despite me having had a whopping fifteen months of taijutsu training ten years prior, the match was nonetheless such a blowout her sensei stopped it five minutes in.

Lest anyone think I'm crowing a bit too loudly here, I have no doubt a 5'0" female brown belt who understood exactly what kind of disadvantage she was at and fought accordingly could have done me some real damage. That's exactly my point - she thought her brown belt and spunky attitude made her invincible. Everyone who studies martial arts goes through that "I think I'm Bruce Lee" phase, but guys will literally get it beaten out of them if they try to act on it.

I have seen the videos where a woman beats the shit out of a mugger

There was one I recall where the news made quite a big deal out of a female MMA fighter beating the snot out of a guy who tried to mug her with a knife. Once I dug up the local news coverage of the incident, the mugger turned out to be shorter than her, twice her age, emaciated and strung out due to his drug addiction, and the knife was a bit of pot metal wrapped in cardboard for a handle.

And I think David has posted my personal favourite, a UK WPC clinging to the leg of a felon who drags her along the ground as he nonchalantly leaves the scene of some form of vehicular malfeasance.

David

And I think David has posted my personal favourite, a UK WPC clinging to the leg of a felon who drags her along the ground as he nonchalantly leaves the scene of some form of vehicular malfeasance.

Over the years I’ve shared several in the comments, though almost all of the linked videos have since disappeared. One, which I can no longer find, involved not one, not two, but three female officers trying to arrest one burly thug. The officers were thrown around like dolls. The whole thing was farcical, practically a comedy sketch.

This seems somewhat relevant.

The spectacle of unimposing female officers struggling to restrain or even briefly impede one male wrongdoer has serious consequences. Not least in terms of demoralising the public and undermining any remaining confidence in the police. Hiring front-line officers who are physically unable to enforce lawfulness, even in pairs, or even in threes, resulting in open mockery, is a recipe for disaster. It’s an obviously, bewilderingly bad idea.

But according to the Commissioner of the Metropolitan Police Service, the terminally incompetent Cressida Dick, it’s more important to have women “in every role,” at “fifty percent,” because people mustn’t “see policing as primarily a male-dominated job.” And the downward slide, now well underway, is a direct consequence of these supposedly progressive ambitions.

And so, we’ve gone from the ideal of burly chaps who will apprehend lawbreakers as forcefully as necessary and send them on their way towards the nearest dungeon, to ladies in funny hats who will be terribly sensitive and empathise with our loss, while we get used to the idea that whatever wrong was done to us will most likely go unpunished.

Daniel Ream

people mustn’t “see policing as primarily a male-dominated job.”

I've been pondering how Western civilization comes back from this and I've come to the conclusion that it can't. Dick isn't competent enough to have made it to that position on her own, she had to have been installed there. The people who installed her are never going to admit she's a disaster, and the well has been so poisoned that any reformer will be accused of cisheteropatriachimisogyny if he does what needs to be done, which is make it clear that she's being turfed for her awful performance and policies.

I'm kind of losing hope that we're in for anything but Rome 432AD at this point.

PiperPaul

she had to have been installed there

Key puppets people in the right places propped up by forces with considerable influence and power...

David

Dick isn't competent enough to have made it to that position on her own, she had to have been installed there.

Not entirely unrelated.

And the last item here.

pst314

Not entirely unrelated.

From the link: "The Communist movement worldwide murdered some 100 million people over the course of the 20th century. The Soviet enterprise specifically, to which Ethel and Julius Rosenberg were fiercely committed — they are described as “devoted” in the Soviet literature — had at the time of the Rosenbergs’ recruiting already intentionally starved to death some 8 million people in Ukraine for the purposes of political terror."

I wish someone had asked science fiction writer Frederick Pohl why he did not quit the Communist Party until he heard of the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact: How he was able to accept the Holodomor and other Soviet atrocities. It must be a sign of the moral corruption of the science fiction world that this never happened.

Daniel Ream

Frederick Pohl why he did not quit the Communist Party

His short story collection Midas World makes much more sense now.

How he was able to accept the Holodomor

My understanding was the Soviet Union did a fairly good job of concealing it until after the war? He was also 17 at the time, which explains a lot.

Daniel Ream

Browsing David's links, I came across a poster who linked to Eric. S Raymond (the author of a famous essay advocating for free open source software). That in turn reminded me that the third-party package ecosystem for possibly the most-used programming language on the planet is now infested with malware that will delete your files if it thinks you're in Russia.

It turns out that allowing your digital economy to be built by 20-something Aspergers patients with a shaky grasp on both ethics and geopolitics isn't the wisest of choices.

pst314

My understanding was the Soviet Union did a fairly good job of concealing it until after the war?

Actually no: There were enough reports in the Western news media. Walter Duranty of the New York Times wrote reports denying that it was happening, but other Westerners such as Malcolm Muggeridge reported the truth. The crucial problem was that Western "liberals" felt that such mass murder was a reasonable policy.

His short story collection Midas World makes much more sense now.

In retrospect I don't think Fred ever truly rejected communism, only the Moscow-directed CPUSA. By the way, I have read that he (and his wife) made numerous trips behind the Iron Curtain until his health became too frail for travel. Betcha those trips were to meet apparatchiks, not anti-socialist dissidents.

sonny wayz

...the terminally incompetent Cressida Dick...

Shouldn't that be lethally incompetent?

anon a mouse

I said "go ahead, punch me in the chest" and when they tried I caught their fist in my hand.

Heh. Onceed upon a time had an Air Force ROTC girl try to "knock my a** out" after some imagined slight. At the time I was still er... exercising, so at 6' 220 lbs she inflicted no sorts of injury whatsoever. I laughed.

ccscientist

anon: I have had several women hit me in the chest and shoulder, apparently as hard as they could, due to something I said (yeah, my jokes are not always funny) and none even left a mark or a sore spot.
I read that NY fire dept changed rules so women could drag a victim out, down stairs, by their feet. If they can't even carry their equipment then people will die--either in the fire or other firemen.

Nikw211
    Not entirely unrelated.

    And the last item here.

    I read that NY fire dept changed rules

A visual demonstration of the same general point.

Not entirely unrelated ...

ccscientist

Nikw211: amazed that the firefighter vid is still on youtube. They said male firefighters should be paid more--no. The correct view is that standards should not be lowered when lives are at stake. If a woman can handle the fire hose and climb a ladder with full gear and then carry someone down, great. If they can't then they are putting lives at risk. In college for fun we would pick someone up and throw them over our shoulder and run around.

Alex DeWynter
I can't say I've ever met an Esperantist who wasn't, well, a kook. Nearly always, if not always, a socialist kook.

Esperanto has always struck me as a sort of eugenics of languages. It was created by 'intellectuals' who made sure to purge it of those messy mutations, side trips, foreign inclusions, etc. that occur when a language grows organically. No surprise it's popular with those always banging on about 'perfecting' mankind.

pst314

Esperanto...was created by 'intellectuals' who made sure to purge it of those messy mutations, side trips, foreign inclusions, etc. that occur when a language grows organically.

They hate everything that develops organically, which in fact means that they hate real human beings.

No surprise it's popular with those always banging on about 'perfecting' mankind.

The "perfections" they strive for keep turning out to be nightmares.

Steve E

The "perfections" they strive for keep turning out to be nightmares.

So do the consequences for those who don't live up to perfection. I thought the allusion to eugenics nailed it.

Nikw211

@ccscientist

They said male firefighters should be paid more--no

Oh, I'm not endorsing the message at all. I even feel bad for Jane in the way I feel bad for anyone caught in an awkward moment on camera.

But despite that, the Fort Boyard clip does make for a striking visual demonstration of the point.

a different james

The spectacle of unimposing female officers struggling to restrain or even briefly impede one male wrongdoer has serious consequences

My wife was stalked by an individual she dealt with in work- convinced that she had conspired against him. He would be outside where she worked as she was leaving and eventually she thought she saw him near our house.

She went to the police, who took her statement and paid a visit to the stalker who ignored the warning. This happened several times. Each time the police in question were young and mostly female and, apparently, the stalker effectively laughed at them.

The stalker only eventually backed off when the Inspector at the station had enough of this waste of police time and assigned the matter to a large, overweight 40-something sergeant. He visited the stalker very early one morning and, without laying a hand on him, convinced him of the error of his ways.

a different james

An acquaintance joined the police as a slightly-built 19 year old, in the 1980s. He had several neighbours who were thugs and generally anti-social. Several of these would jeer at him when they saw him leaving or returning to his house.

He mentioned this in passing to another policeman and, within the hour, he was told to get back to the Station IMMEDIATELY! The Station Sergeant lifted him out of it for not telling him about this and wanted names NOW. Did he not realise that if this was not nipped in the bud, thugs would have no fear and that ordinary people would have no respect for the police?

A carload of "experienced" detectives visited several of his neighbours in the early hours. Again, no hands were laid on anyone, but the neighbours' behaviour changed.

NateWhilk

Ya think?

https://twitter.com/worstall/status/1505105917985099780

The Telegraph article is paywalled. Archived at https://archive.ph/GvPdv

(or for the masochists among us, use your browser's "display page source" on the paywall page.)

This got my spidey-sense tingling a bit. Maybe we should be a little cautious here. So far, all we have is the Baroness's story and no way to find and verify details about the individual involved. I realize there there would probably be confidentiality issues.

I wouldn't be overly surprised if the story is true. But it's possible she's being hoaxed

Princess Cutekitten

I want to see the following video:

Jerk sees small person with long dark hair ahead of him. Jerk swoops down on “girl.” “Girl” turns out to be jiujitsu teacher who’s had this stunt pulled on him once too often. “Girl” takes jerk apart.

Not only do I want to see that video, I’d buy a copy.

Liz

"Hateful conduct..."

https://thepostmillennial.com/breaking-babylon-bee-suspended-from-twitter/

David
We’ve previously noted the ways in which the activism of pronoun stipulators differs from that of other groups with which they are often equated. Someone being gay, for instance, doesn’t generally entail an expectation that the rest of us should pretend that the physical reality we can see is somehow not the case. And unsurprisingly, people may object to being told that they should disregard the obvious and become dishonest on demand, thereby leaving themselves open to any prankster, or bedlamite, or sadistic opportunist in search of leverage.

Some insist that not indulging modish pronouns, including animal pronouns and clown pronouns, and pronouns that can change randomly, several times a day - and being reluctant to indulge any other attendant psychodrama - is a violation of human rights and a basis for severe legal consequences. One might think that coercively eroding the probity of other people, demanding that they lie, and even hallucinate, is a pretty bad thing too. At best, a recipe for grim farce. But there we are.

Seemed somewhat relevant. Links aplenty in the original.

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