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Friday Ephemera

Emotional drama at the dentist. || Some dunnies are nicer than others. || Cheeeldren of the night (daytime version). || How to turn a health supplement into the smell of death. || Humpback and hand-crank. || To please her, you must hallucinate. || How clouds are made. || A little too close for comfort. || Capturing a special moment. || “Endless love and happiness.” || They do say the laundry never ends. || Danger, Will Robinson. || The brightest and best, you know. || Stunning and brave. || Not quite what I expected. (h/t, Ben) || Today’s words are preschool teacher. || The popular music of ancient Rome. || Pyramids ahoy. (h/t, Julia) || Process accelerated. || And finally, the thrill of footwear.

Update, via the comments:

In coping news, a thread. Somewhat related:

The Hivemind is unhappy.

Comments

Sam Duncan

Epic Skidmarks.

What? It's a game. By the same author as the '90s original, no less.

“Emotional drama at the dentist.”

To echo some of the comments in the thread, what the hell do dentists give people in America? The last time I had anything stronger than novocaine was about 35 years ago.

WTP

what the hell do dentists give people in America?

She looks about the age to have her wisdom teeth removed. I remember being 17 and waking up afterward, seeing the oral surgeon in the hallway, getting up and trying to shake his hand for a job well done. I was so embarrassed after fully waking that I didn't want to ever go back to have the stitches removed.

LadyTheo

My sister told the oral surgeon, as she was doping off to never-never land, that he looked like Tom Selleck. SHE never wanted to back to see him, either!

Richard Cranium

Heh.

When I was cadet at West Point, I had gone to the dentist there who in turn told me that I would probably need to have my wisdom teeth taken out eventually. My sister had had hers taken out before I went to the un-college, and her experience had been absolutely horrible.

So, I told the dentist, sure take them out. He asked if I wanted to schedule multiple visits to do that, but I remembered what an upperclass cadet had put on his door when I was a plebe: "If you are going to be here anyways, you may as well suck it down to the max." So, I told him to pull all 4 at once.

So, the day happens. He's going to give me an IV to put me out for the oral surgery, but (this was 1979, IIRC) he was going to use laughing gas to put me in a relaxed state prior to inserting the IV. (I'll opine that cadets were probably used as training carcasses for the medical staff, but I have no direct knowledge that was actually the case.)

So, the dentist put the mask on my face, asks me how much I weighted, adjusts the valve, and turns on the nitrous oxide. He mentions that I should tell him when I start feeling odd and then starts to fiddle with the tools for the upcoming operation. A few minutes pass and I haven't said anything; he asks me how I feel, and I tell him that I feel pretty much the same. He then slightly increases the gas flow and reminds me to tell him when I start feeling odd/different. Maybe 5 more minutes pass and he asks me again, since I still haven't said anything. "No sir, I still feel the same." was my reply.

He then goes to the valve and turns it to, if not the max, very close to it. I can feel the laughing gas hitting my face in the mask. Very shortly thereafter, I felt as if a scan line was rising from the floor and everything below the scan line felt weird and everything above it felt the same. Once the notional scan line crossed my face, I had a rather stupid grin (which he could see, given the mask).

He then asked how I felt. "Oh, yes sir, I feel different!" was my reply. "Great." he said in a rather annoyed tone.

Next thing I knew, I didn't have any wisdom teeth in my mouth. I was eating solid food either that night or the next day.

Richard Cranium

Grr.

"(which he could NOT see, given the mask)"

asiaseen

hallucinate

"we want people to see us as we actually are..."

The truth might hurt

Karen M

Emotional drama at the dentist.

Still laughing. :-D

David

Morning, all.

what the hell do dentists give people in America?

The words local anaesthetic seem unfamiliar across the Atlantic.

Still laughing.

Of all the things one might conceivably get emotional about, even while high, it’s a little out there.

David

“we want people to see us as we actually are...”

And hence the irresolvable drama. It’s a war with reality. Also ironic, albeit inadvertently, “You got so close to the point, and then ran away from it.”

David

In coping news. A thread.

David

Somewhat related:

Mags

Somewhat related:

*applause*

David

Dining scenes.

Nikw211

In coping news. A thread.

Think I got me a winner:

Nikw211

Dining scenes.

More tea, vicar?

Stephanie Richer

Capturing a special moment

I have seen that clip before and as then, it saddens me. I hope it was awake up call for the friend to do something about her size.

asiaseen

We have a new disease: MDS - Musk Derangement Syndrome

It will probably spread faster than Covid19

Jen

Emotional drama at the dentist.

LOL

ccscientist

Most people should not overshare, even if normal. Perhaps you have had the experience of close friends who open up and tell you all the weird thoughts they have, conspiracy theories that 9/11 was an inside job, fetishes they have, their claims about healing crystals, fear of contamination in their food, whatever. There are things you really should not share. The libsoftiktok seem to be compelled to share their innermost weirdness as if it was a good thing, and not just with their friends but with the world. No thanks, really.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

The words local anaesthetic seem unfamiliar across the Atlantic.

From the amount of gauze in her mouth, it was not just a filling or root canal. One of the disadvantages of locals for dental or other procedures is that the patient can still fight and make the procedure longer and increase the chance of something going south, for example, trying to do a root canal and the unfortunate on the unfunny side of the drill not keep the yap open.

Conscious sedation, as the gal in the video appears to have had, generally using Diprivan or Versed, eliminates this problem and has the added benefit of rapid onset and short half life (so quick recovery) as well as giving retrograde amnesia for the event. Were it not for the video she would never have known her YMCA angst.

On this side of the pond we even often do a range of surgical procedures with locals, but also often with conscious sedation as well because having a patient sit up or move about is usually counterproductive, and it eliminates the need for using general anaesthetic which is generally always riskier.

If the NHS isn't using conscious sedation, your colonoscopies must be high adventure.

ccscientist

Sedation, especially for older people, carries a risk of mental fogginess for weeks to months. I actually had a colonoscopy in my 20s with just local and it was not a big deal. That assumes you don't mind people playing with your butt while you are awake. Wisdom teeth, however, a very different matter. Had a biopsy of my prostate where the local anesthetic didn't work very well and it is seared in my memory. Thank god for anesthesia.
Per my prior post, am I oversharing?

Burnsie

Stunning and brave.

That's just gross. Other people have to use those seats later. Put on a skirt or pants, dammit.

asiaseen

your colonoscopies must be high adventure

The British Spirit dontchano still upper lip..or something

asiaseen

Stiff maybe...

asiaseen

Stunning and brave

Other people have to use those seats later

No sweat, she'll probably be in the cargo bay.

asiaseen

From further down the big bum link some sound logical thinking

Elon must not be allowed to impose his refusal to censor us on us.

asiaseen

OK, oversharing. I shall get my coat...

Farnsworth M Muldoon

Sedation, especially for older people, carries a risk of mental fogginess for weeks to months.

Even after long infusions (e.g., days) with something like propofol, no, assuming appropriate dosage adjustment has been made. In any even, general anesthetic is almost always higher risk.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

I am not at all sure what is happening here.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

Whoa, this is a completely surprising development.

Richard Cranium
The libsoftiktok seem to be compelled to share their innermost weirdness as if it was a good thing, and not just with their friends but with the world.

@ccscientist, I'm not sure if I missed an implied /sarc tag, but libsoftiktok isn't glorifying those snippets. It's more of a warning call.

Governor Squid

Conscious sedation

For Christmas in 1990*, I got four wisdom teeth removed in one operation. One of the teeth was impacted and took some extra effort, so I got some extra happy juice to keep me out of it until the oral surgeon was done.

According to my mother, I spent an hour in Recovery raving in Spanish. Evidently I really didn't like the stuffed dog they gave me to hold on to, but I refused to let anybody take the dog away, either. They kicked us out after a while because they needed the recovery room for the next patient, but I was still on another planet. I don't remember much until I woke up on the couch in the living room sometime that afternoon.

Thankfully this was 1990 and I didn't have to worry about my ravings being posted for the entertainment of strangers.

* This was not at the top of my Xmas list; insurance changes kicked in 1/1/91 that would make the procedure much more expensive.

asiaseen

I am not at all sure what is happening here

Plainly he is one of the "I wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire" fraternity

ccscientist

Richard: I understand--libsoftiktok is just documenting the weirdness. I just cited them as shorthand.
they are banned now.

Connor

In coping news, a thread.

"The site used to be fun, funny, and a great tool for exchanging information. Now it feels like what the world would be if the eight most vile people in Brooklyn were put in charge of all human life, a giant, hyper-pretentious Thought-Starbucks."

https://taibbi.substack.com/p/twitters-chickens-come-home-to-roost?s=r

Farnsworth M Muldoon

...they are banned now.

Unsuspended now.

Epicur

It seems Libs of TikTok has been banned from Twitter.

Whatever shall we do for entertainment?

WTP

Sedation, especially for older people, carries a risk of mental fogginess for weeks to months.

It wasn't long after colon surgery to remove a small cancerous mass that my mother slipped into dementia. I never thought she fully recovered from the anesthesia. She had had a problem recovering from whatever they used back in the pre-war period following a dental procedure. She said they were worried she wouldn't/couldn't wake up. At the last minute before calling further expertise she came-to. I worry that that stuff has more issues than we hear about.

Epicur

Interesting commentary on the Libs of TikTok matter.

https://jonathanturley.org/2022/04/15/twitter-suspends-libsoftiktok-for-featuring-liberals-talking-about-themselves/

pst314

From the Taibbi link:

"My blue-checked friends in media worked very hard to create this thriving intellectual paradise, so of course they’re devastated to imagine that a single rich person could even try to walk in and upend the project."

Nearly all of my liberal "friends" have, for years, defended the censorship policies of these tech companies (and universities, financial institutions, etc.) Although upsetting, their comments have helped to persuade me that liberalism is corrupt to the core. I can't imagine why they might think that, if there is a backlash, their chosen enemies would utter a single word in defense of their right to speak their minds.

pst314

From the Jonathan Turley link:

"The kinds of things that we do about this is, focus less on thinking about free speech, but thinking about how the times have changed."
--Twitter CEO Parag Agrawal

What if "times change" again? Why not silence Agrawal by banning him from all social media?

Canadian Friend

Piercing and tattooing your face, dying your hair blue, while demanding the entire planet adapts to you and uses the pronouns that correspond to the gender you think you are in your ultra narcissistic messed up mind is insanity.

No emotional effort required to see those people are insane.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

It seems Libs of TikTok has been banned from Twitter.

Once again, "I’M BACK".

Canadian Friend

That preschool teacher is for diversity as long as it is leftist-woke-LGTBQ diversity.

Why are so many messed up in the head and sexually confused females teachers?

Mike D

Some dunnies are nicer than others.

*tries to imagine our host with an Australian accent*

Governor Squid

Piercing and tattooing your face, dying your hair blue...

I remember back in the 80s, asking the goth girls in high school why they looked the way they did. "To be different," was the obvious answer. But because I was (and still am) an idiot, I asked "Then why can't I tell you apart?"

Needless to say, I didn't get a lot of romantic action from that particular clique. Still, it's kind of amusing to me that today's unique personalities still go straight to the cookie-cutter template so that they'll look "different" in exactly the same way as all the other unique personalities.

plus ça change...

David

*tries to imagine our host with an Australian accent*

Heh. I can’t do accents, at all.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

I did not know before now what the L in LGBTQETC stood for.

Em

Dining scenes.

"Body positivity"

David

“Body positivity”

The dynamic seems to be, “Yes, I’m a monstrously fat degenerate, but at least I can ruin your meal.”

Something along those lines.

Joe Ego

Why are so many messed up in the head and sexually confused females teachers?

Women are always going to woman, so they will still have their predisposition toward fields such as child care and teaching while also seeking status in their social hierarchy. As "sexually confused" has become it's own social phenomenon, it is inevitable that these women will be teaching somebody's kids. Just like the independent girl bosses/cat ladies.

Hippogryph

If Elon Musk does buy the damned thing, I might finally consider getting a Twitter account.

sonny wayz

I did not know before now what the L in LGBTQETC stood for

Bengal Lizards Matter?

Pooklord

I am not at all sure what is happening here
Farnsworth
The area around S. Jackson and 18th/19th, aka "International District" has become completely transformed from when I lived in Seattle 10 years ago.

It's an ongoing open drug market, with sometimes hundreds of people loitering around, shooting up . . . it's just nuts what Seattle has become.

Steve E

"Body positivity"

Somewhere, in the universe, lurks "anti-Body positivity-matter" and when it meets "Body positivity" expect a lot, and I mean a shit-load lot of cellulite goo to cover the US up to nose level (somewhere between 4'10" and 5'4") of the average citizen.

If you think having to live looking at that is difficult, just wait until you're wading in it.

pst314

Heh. I can’t do accents, at all.

No worries, mate.

Steve E

I did not know before now what the L in LGBTQETC stood for

I had always thought that the "C" stood for "Cock Flavored Soup", a favourite of some of the regulars.

A little disappointed when they started including artificial Cock flavor along with the natural Cock flavor. It may explain the time it took to recognize the "C".

Farnsworth M Muldoon

A little disappointed when they started including artificial Cock flavor...

I don't think silicone is supposed to be used as a food additive.

pst314

[ Silent glare of stern disapproval ]

asiaseen

A little disappointed when they started including artificial Cock flavor...

Name change called for:"Dildo Flavour Soup"

Felicity

Remember a while ago we discussed the culture wars in the knitting community? Well it is not confined to them apparently. It has invaded the pottery world. https://twitter.com/ClimateWarrior7/status/1515070158926188544?s=20&t=kcp0wwuZPOBtWgKmu8gymw

TimT

If Elon Musk does buy the damned thing, I might finally consider getting a Twitter account.

Musk is a dickhead and clearly only interested in amassing further billions but it is hard not to agree with him in his make-Twitter-a-free-speech-platform campaign.

Darleen

The libsoftiktok seem to be compelled to share their innermost weirdness as if it was a good thing,

I can't tell you how many times in talking with "progressives" that they insist that things like teachers acting inappropriately with their young students "just doesn't happen" and it's a "rethuglican myth" or conspiracy. So without going onto TikTok myself and gathering the links of teachers actually talking about how they ARE doing it in their own words, libsofticktock becomes a good resource. Between Zoom giving parents a shocking window into what was going on in their kids' classroom, to all manner of teacher/administrator/school board member hubris on parade on social media, parents are not as isolated thinking "this has got to be a one-off".

Princess Cutekitten

Happy Easter, everyone! 🐇🐣

David

Interesting commentary on the Libs of TikTok matter.

The word “smears” is an interesting choice, given that the content of Libs of TikTok is essentially verbatim quotes, i.e., unhinged and pretentious lefties choosing to show their peers and followers how unhinged and pretentious they are. Additional commentary is minimal, often absent, and all that’s changed is that the audience of the speaker is expanded somewhat. Which has revealed to that wider audience the conceit and dysfunction that thrives among those entrusted to educate their children. It’s made the term ideological capture a concrete thing.

If Elon Musk does buy the damned thing, I might finally consider getting a Twitter account.

It could become a little more appealing. At the moment, I use a pseudonymous account and only to keep track of things to include here. Chiefly because Twitter made non-account browser use of the platform increasingly limited and aggravating.

WTP

Chiefly because Twitter made non-account browser use of the platform increasingly limited and aggravating.

I currently have my Safari browser configured in such a way that I can use it for reading Twitter posts without hassle. Don't remember all of what I did but cleaning cookie cache was a part of it. Now that browser is dedicated to Twitter and I dare not make or accept any changes.

As for Musk and the media, this is typical of the media. These people who present a calm rational face (what few who still can) in regard to what Musk is doing, the media types who give sober, rational analysis to justify the board's actions and such, seem to be having a harder and harder time keeping the lid on. Deep down inside they want to throw the same screaming unhinged tantrums, and likely do so in private. What is truly scary is how so many people continue to believe what they are being told by these people. The genuine hate, the firm beliefs that Musk is himself literally a Nazi (watch for him to be more broadly attacked for his South African roots) is rising in the general community. This is not a one-off itself. The hive mind of crazy rage may soon boil over. Driven mostly by crazy white women whose cats, based on the number of flyers I'm seeing, probably can't stand them anymore.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

Lucinda Willcox, Ukrainian trans lesbian, despite having a really bad week, shares her Easter casserole recipe.

I know what you are thinking, don't you dare say they is a parody...

pst314

I can't tell you how many times in talking with "progressives" that they insist that things like teachers acting inappropriately with their young students "just doesn't happen" and it's a "rethuglican myth" or conspiracy.

While out of the other side of their mouths they say defend such indoctrination/molestation.

pst314

The genuine hate, the firm beliefs that Musk is himself literally a Nazi...is rising in the general community. This is not a one-off itself. The hive mind of crazy rage may soon boil over...

Yes. I've been noticing that for years. Increasing frequency and increasing virulence. I think Obama's repeated calls for supporters to "get in peoples faces" was significant, either as an accelerant or as a symptom or both.

...Driven mostly by crazy white women

Could be. The loudest most crazy ones that I have known have tended to be female, although many did not own cats. Fortunately I am mostly not required to socialize with them.

Clam

It’s made the term ideological capture a concrete thing.

That.

David

That.

Well, parents can now see for themselves, quite vividly, just how derailed, and often perverse, state education has become. With woke educators bragging, competitively, about propagating their sexual monomanias in the classroom, and boasting of deceiving parents, for whom they clearly show contempt. Not individual parents, mind, but parents as a whole. And doing these things gleefully, as if accustomed to impunity. Which does rather suggest a systemic dysfunction, a culture in need of correction.

And on the subject of deceiving parents, let’s not forget this. Because creating a fake curriculum purely to fool parents is, and I quote, “not being deceitful.”

ccscientist

I can't tell you how many times in talking with "progressives" that they insist that things like teachers acting inappropriately with their young students "just doesn't happen" and it's a "rethuglican myth" or conspiracy."

Just ask how many elementary classrooms have a rainbow parade, as if that were perfectly normal. There was never a heterosexual parade in the "bad old days"--well, except the penis parades in Japan.

WTP

A very, very smart person, who has apparently done some very, very smart things and sees through the incoherence "on both sides". He's smart, see? Even smarter than Elon Musk. Much, much smarter than you'll ever be. Thank God this world has smart people like this running the important things.

WTP

don't you dare say they is a parody...

Only a true parody would deny being a parody.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

Thank God this world has smart people like this running the important things.

Because it is not TOPICS that are censored. It is BEHAVIOR.

Tell me he is an idiot without telling me he is an idiot.

But I also ran Reddit.

Oh, he did, sorry, I missed that.

ccscientist

Long term surveys of happiness/contentment with life have shown that men have had a fairly steady level of positive affect for 70+ yrs. Women's happiness/contentment has been steadily going down. How could this be? Men tend to focus their judgement of things on their actions and accomplishments. If something is too hard for how much they want to work, they accept that tradeoff and don't keep thinking about it.
Women, the surveys found, are happier the more traditional their family arrangement--the husband goes to work and she stays home with the kids and runs the household/social life. The fewer children and the fewer marriages and the more women work, the unhappier they are. Becoming just like men (career) did NOT make them happier, but less happy.
Women find themselves, their meaning, in relationships, and that is fine, but in the absence of relationships (think single urban women) if they look inside they do not find anything. A career does not satisfy because it is not a relationship. This is why single urban women are so angry and screechy.

WTP

Tell me he is an idiot without telling me he is an idiot.

But the confidence he has that he knows all this knowing of knowledgeable things...if only we could bottle that stuff and drop it to the bottom of the Marianas Trench.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

Meanwhile, it appears they left off "Sod Off, Swampy", and "Blow It Out Your Barracks Bag" from this handy chart.

David

this handy chart.

Alternatively, you could reply, “Are you only pretending to be dysmorphic, or were you actually molested as a child?”

It may not cover all possibilities, but it would save a lot of time and faffing about.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

... but it would save a lot of time and faffing about.

Only if one of these types would tell the truth, (an "if" with body positivity issues), or didn't go off on some DID rant about one or more of the "alters" having been.

[+]

this handy chart.

Gaslighting.

pst314

this handy chart.

I am increasingly inclined to respond by repeating the pronoun that the arsewipe was "correcting", while giving the arsewipe a "fuck around and find out" stare.

TomJ

Well, speaking of accents and things from TikTok found on Twitter, this is actually rather good.

pst314

Dangerous crazy person tells us that she is not dangerously crazy.
(And sorry, I lost track of the account that linked to that.)

pst314

Speaking of defective people, the shooting of repeat offender Patrick Lyoya (when he tried to take away a cop's Taser) reminded me of a conversation I had in the early 80's with a man who insisted that the right thing to do when pulled over was not to stay in your car with your hands on the wheel where they can be seen, but instead to immediately get out of the car so that you can "face the officer as an equal". That was just one of many small steps in concluding that there was something very wrong with the fan subculture.

WTP

this is actually rather good.

Cuts off just as it gets good. Is the full video available anywhere? Google, as is the case more frequently, was no help.

Darleen

Cuts off just as it gets good.

The rest of the story.

Darleen

Ah ha ... Our Shakespearean from the South.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

Just because leftists do stupid crap on this side of the pond doesn't mean it has to happen on yours.

Just WTF does George Floyd have to do with London or the UK anyway?

John

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-61075197

Meanwhile on the bbc.

A new Doctor Who podcast spin-off series is making the show more female and LGBTQ+ than ever before.

Which is quite a challenge.

pst314

Just WTF does George Floyd have to do with London or the UK anyway?

Not long after the George Floyd incident, black criminals in the UK and Ireland started yelling "I can't breathe!" when being arrested, and I saw a video or two of blacks in Ireland protesting violently because someone had been shot while committing assault with a deadly weapon (machete, I think).

anon a mouse

"More Female" yet according to the convoluted been bit - the participants are all men.
Playing women.
Yeah, that's "more female "...

Farnsworth M Muldoon

I've often thought it would be a good way to make a few extra frogskins to use my house as an AirBnB, after all what could possibly go wrong at an Easter celebration?

anon a mouse

Ah yes, the usual celebratory Easter Gunfire.
Is that before or after the opening prayers?

pst314

And this correlates strongly with the dumbing down of universities.

anon a mouse

Well, if everyone gets a kolledge degree...

Farnsworth M Muldoon

OK, I am not a gender studyologist, but it seems to me a relationship between a "penis haver and a vagina haver", in which case the latter is a pantomime man, isn't exactly "gay". Same-same if the "penis haver" is a pantomime woman and the party of the second part a real one.

Confused as hell, but not gay.

Of course I must be a phobe and/or TERF to think this.

asiaseen

100 shots fired but only two downed and 11 winged in a 200-strong close-packed herd? Not very good at shooting either.

Bad taste...yes. I have my HUS* ready

*Hamster Urine Shield

ComputerLabRat

100 shots fired but only two downed and 11 winged in a 200-strong close-packed herd? Not very good at shooting either.

My guess is the shooter(s) watched far too many gangsta rap videos.

The RoPers that rampage seem to do better than that, I think. Same with the mentally-ill who do mass shootings - both I think are single-minded on prep and taking out as many as they can.

But the gangstas seem to prize quantity (of shot) over quality (of shooting). The local rapper who got offed at the corner sweet shop last year previously had survived (and bragged about it) a drive-by that riddled his car with hundreds of bullets, leaving him unhurt.

sonny wayz

But the gangstas seem to prize quantity (of shot) over quality (of shooting)

Isn't this a Steve Sailer law? Many shots fired, few actual hits = POND, not that such a thing will be noted.

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