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May 05, 2022

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Dean

According to the [students association] safe space rules, only gestures that indicate agreement are “permissible”.

Great debate guys.

🤡 🤡 🤡 🤡 🤡

David

Great debate guys.

Well, quite. It reminded me of this rather telling farce, in which a room full of insufferable leftist poseurs claim to have had a “very good discussion.” And yet, if you can endure the bone-aching tedium of it, no discussion or debate of any kind actually occurs. No-one challenges anything, anything at all, said by anyone else. It’s just a series of isolated, ludicrous, self-flattering pronouncements. It’s almost as if the participants tacitly understood that to question even the most obvious factual errors could result in their own assertions being open to testing. And so, they don’t.

Being, as they are, so radical and fearless - “an insurgent movement.”

Stanners

Ms Schaefer, who teaches performance art to those less gifted than herself,

Actual LOL

Joan

And yet, if you can endure the bone-aching tedium of it, no discussion or debate of any kind actually occurs.

They don't want to listen to each other. Who would?

Farnsworth M Muldoon

A covid free* public service announcement.

*(On the topic of art, my guess is the "artist" just couldn't draw mouths)

asiaseen

public service announcement.

Wherefore art thou grammatical logic? Shouldn't the illustration for "their" be Siamese twins?

Steve E

A covid free* public service announcement.

And I'm quite sure that "My body, my choice" message doesn't apply to vaccines or masks.

ccscientist

On the "my body my choice" hysteria, they gloss over the obvious problem that one must decide on some point at which abortion is no longer permitted or else it becomes ok to kill viable, conscious babies. 3, 4, 5, 7 weeks? 9 months? After delivery? In the past, people did indeed just dump unwanted babies since they lacked the ability to abort. Is that where they want to go? So some decision is necessary and it is not black-or-white (can I say that?).
The student debate and expulsion thing: if you never let children wrestle or encounter physical hardship, always praise them, and everyone gets an award, this is where you end up. It is not just that we have extended adolescence, we have extended infancy into their 20s.

pst314

or else it becomes ok to kill viable, conscious babies. 3, 4, 5, 7 weeks? 9 months? After delivery?

In ancient Rome the father had the legal power of life and death over his children. Perhaps some feminists are attracted to that sort of system albeit with father replaced by mother.

anon a mouse

"infancy into their 20s."

So twenty somethings could legally be aborted?

Hmmm. Double Hmmm.

ComputerLabRat

You will eat your bugs and live in pods and you will like it. I subscribe to the US dept of ag national food and ag newsletter for latest research and funding opportunities. That was what was in my inbox yesterday. Teh Science(tm)!

And yet The Science is muzzled when it comes to human biology vs feelz. Although they're back to knowing what a woman is now that the Roe decision might be sent back to the states to decide what the actual laws will be. The US Ministry of Truth hasn't come down on them yet for misinformation for saying woman.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

...or else it becomes ok to kill viable, conscious babies. 3, 4, 5, 7 weeks? 9 months? After delivery?

Califonia AB 2223:

SECTION 1. The Legislature finds and declares all of the following: (a) Reproductive justice is a framework created by Black women in 1994 to address the intersectional and multifactored issues that women of color and their families face in society.

(b) Reproductive justice is the human right to control our bodies, sexuality, gender, work, and reproduction. That right can only be achieved when all people, particularly women and girls, have the complete economic, social, and political power and resources to make healthy decisions about their bodies, families, and communities in all areas of their lives. At the core of reproductive justice is the belief in the right to bodily autonomy, the right to have children, the right to not have children, and the right to parent the children we have with dignity and respect in safe and sustainable communities.

(c) A critical part of realizing reproductive justice for people in California is clarifying that there shall be no civil and criminal penalties for people’s actual, potential, or alleged pregnancy outcomes.

OK, we got the racist angle out of the way, but it seems they are not clear on the "woman" or "person" giving birth thing, to no one's surprise.

123467. (a) Notwithstanding any other law, a person shall not be subject to civil or criminal liability or penalty, or otherwise deprived of their rights, based on their actions or omissions with respect to their pregnancy or actual, potential, or alleged pregnancy outcome, including miscarriage, stillbirth, or abortion, or perinatal death due to a pregnancy-related cause.

Granted I am not a lawyer (as my parents were married I was ineligible for law school), but no criminal action for a action or omission leading to a perinatal death seems like California is down with advertent or inadvertent killing of viable babies (for the reproductive justice, don't you know), but only thing I could find regarding time frame was that a coroner has three days to produce a death certificate.

The "pregnancy related cause" thing is a bit of a red herring because you can lump nigh anything under that from post-partum depression to anemia. Bobby Sue Baggadonuts claimed post-partum depression and didn't feed the kid who died, no big deal, I guess.

John

https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2022/may/3/eric-swalwell-says-gop-wants-interracial-marriage-/

“Eric Swalwell says Republicans want to ban interracial marriage”

The advertising industry quakes in its boots.

anon a mouse

"Bobby Sue Baggadonuts"

Any relation to an aforementioned SPC Baggadonuts? Or is that the WV side of the family?

aelfheld
So twenty somethings could legally be aborted?

He's got 'em on the list — he's got 'em on the list;
And they'll none of 'em be missed — they'll none of 'em be missed

David

Awk-ward.

ccscientist

Cali AB 2223: the clause about perinatal death is to absolve crack mothers or alcoholics from being liable for death of the live born baby.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

“Eric Swalwell says Republicans want to ban interracial marriage”

Justice Thomas hardest hit.

pst314

Mentally ill perv feels unsafe in the workplace.

Daniel Ream

In the past, people did indeed just dump unwanted babies since they lacked the ability to abort

This is something that gets left out of the discussion: there's always been abortion, especially among the poor, but it was post-natal. And the fact that the (translated) Hippocratic oath says "I will not give a woman a pessary to cause an abortion" means that even then people sought to end unwanted pregnancies.

When infant mortality and death in childbirth are sky-high, societies don't have the luxury of being moralistic about terminating the life of a child you can't feed anyway. We've solved those mortality problems but I'm not convinced we've put adequate social structures in place to support those now-viable children. Or perhaps we've just torn down the ones that already existed in the name of "justice". Probably the latter.

In ancient Rome the father had the legal power of life and death over his children.

Even when the paterfamilias was at its height that was metaphorical. what it meant in practice was this: Roman law considered slavery legally equivalent to death: upon being sold into slavery, all a slave's prior debts, contracts, marriages, obligations, privileges, etc. were annulled (and if later manumitted, the slave did not get those back; legally he was as if newborn). So saying that a paterfamilias had the power of life and death over his children really meant he could sell them into slavery.

A paterfamilias who executed his children for any reason other than obvious self-defense may have been legally within his rights, but would have faced severe repercussions socially, politically and legally.

Darleen

Cali AB 2223: the clause about perinatal death is to absolve crack mothers or alcoholics from being liable for death of the live born baby.

It is a huge loophole that the "actual, potential, or alleged" next Kermit Gosnell could drive a mobile morgue through.

Reminds me of stuff like this where response is that "no real doctor" would ever perform such abortions.

And yet they don't want to restrict any doctor who may chose to do so. Hmmm.

krzz

Awk-ward.

As Chesterton (or Yogi Berra) would have said, a willingness to argue with blacks is democratic.

Our undemocratic illiterate peasant ancestors probably did that cap-in-hand looking at their feet thing when their betters said something they disagreed with. Not sure if they'd have kneeled for anyone except God, though - I think the feudal system entitled them to some dignity.

Dems-are-the-real-racists material for the Ben Shapiro right, and for the left if it reaches the threshold of awareness, which is unlikely, it'll be inverted or distorted, it certainly won't be treated as a contradiction that requires them to re-evaluate their assumptions. For example, the news reports on the "Islam is right about women" stunt were along the lines of "white supremacist sticker campaign targets Muslim women".

Mentally ill perv feels unsafe in the workplace.

If it was about "I just want to be myself and be left alone", his type could start a business catering to the Jonathan/Jessica Yaniv types, and everyone would feel happy and left alone. Who's demanding intimate access to whom?

Farnsworth M Muldoon

Any relation to an aforementioned SPC Baggadonuts?

Ex-dependapottamus of SPC Baggadonuts.

ccscientist

"I just want to be left alone" is shown to be a lie by the number of trans who want to be in intimate spaces with women, as if there aren't other jobs. Being in these spaces "validates" their feelings, so they seek it out. Also teachers.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

And now for something completely different, live video games, these guys are brilliant.

A whole episode here, best watched with a youtube adblocker on. Much more at their youtube page.

Steve E

"I just want to be left alone..."

..is the motte in the ongoing motte and bailey fallacy put forward by trans-activists. Sadly, many parts of what used to be the bailey have now become the motte.

David

live video games,

Nicely done.

anon a mouse

"Ex-dependapottamus"

Beats the officer's wives...
"My husband, the...[fill in the blank]"

David

Mentally ill perv feels unsafe in the workplace.

Assuming the thing isn’t some on-the-nose trolling, it does suggest the kind of pathological narcissism we’ve seen many times before.

Daniel Ream

Nicely done.

It's the uncanny valley effect of standing animations that kills me. If you don't have them in a video game it looks static and unreal, but if you do them in real life it looks ridiculous.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

Beats the officer's wives...

They are not mutually exclusive...

asiaseen

Beats the officer's wives

A squadron wife overheard checking in to a hotel in Singapore "I am Mrs Lt Cdr H***".

pst314

"I am Mrs Lt Cdr H***".

I think I heard that in a Monty Python sketch.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

I think I heard that in a Monty Python sketch.

You may have, but it happens in real life, usually when Zotz reaches field grade but I have heard "I am Mrs. LT Zotz".

Better still, in the olden days when certain ranks got rank stickers for their cars and Mrs. COL/Col/CAPT Zotz would rush out to get one the minute Zotz got promoted so she could get the good parking spots at the PX/BX/NEX/Commissary/Class 6/Package Store. Of course on an Air Force base that was still useless because roughly 90% of all airmen are O-6 or above.

Dave (no relation to our host)

because roughly 90% of all airmen are O-6 or above

Actual LOL. Well said, Muldoon

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